Photoshop 2024 Update - Extreme Generative Fill

[@andreask.6872]

Hi Jamie, I discovered your channel a few weeks ago and just want to say thank you today. It's just impressive to watch you doing photo editing. I have learned more from you in this short time than from anyone else. Best regards from Germany, and please keep it up for a long time!

[@jamiermathlin]

Hey Andreas, thank you very much for your kind words, it is very much appreciated, plus thank you for taking the time to leave a comment 😀

[@heeyulkim9699]

Hi Jamie. it is very impressive and great. I really appreciated. I learned too much from you. thank you from south korea.

[@jamiermathlin]

Welcome 😀 and thank you for the comment, I am very happy to hear that you find my work helpful.

[@PeggySwords]

Another great one, Jamie!

[@jamiermathlin]

thank you Peggy 😀

[@eeanderson49]

Hi Jamie....another great edit by the MASTER.

[@jamiermathlin]

thank you Edward 😀

[@keithgrundy9010]

Great video as always. I woild love to see the day to night transformation

[@jamiermathlin]

😀

[@bala1000mina]

Thank you so much Jamie for the awesome walk through tutorial! Not only I enjoyed watching the video but also I learnt a lot from your tutorial and the tips you gave generously! I hope that I have chance to learn more from you in the future! God bless you and good luck!

[@jamiermathlin]

Thank you very much for your kind words and taking time to leave a comment, it is much appreciated 😀

[@bala1000mina]

@@jamiermathlin You're very welcome Jamie! It's a great pleasure!

[@mikehughes6366]

Insane Jamie, well since you do a wonderful job every time it saves us having to learn the controls!

[@jamiermathlin]

thanks Mike, I hope I can be of service 😀

[@M31glow]

Great tips on how to use generative fill and removal tool !

[@jamiermathlin]

thank you Walter, and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment, it is very much appreciated 😀

[@ekstrod7132]

Another great tutorial...…the only thing is, Adobe has rolled this out too soon for full version of Photoshop. Why you ask? Although the definition of the Generative fill has increased to 2000 x 2000 pixels, it's not enough resolution to give clean sharp detail in defined areas you are replacing.. Probably small images for web and small prints it will be ok, but, for cameras using 25 - 40 megapixels the fill areas won't give the required definition on larger prints. It is still in it's infancy and should be used sparingly..

[@jamiermathlin]

I completely agree !

[@parmanduke]

Looks great. With all these edits it doesn’t matter what camera or lens is used anymore

[@jamiermathlin]

The cameras today are all so good, as you say it does not really matter anymore 😀

[@sky-lenz1085]

Jamie..Just discovered you. Love this tutorial and would love to see you light the windows.

[@jamiermathlin]

Many thanks 😀

[@carolbell4550]

Hi Jamie... I enjoyed this tutorial. The main thing I learnt is how you duplicate the linier gradient. Something I have never thought of doing.

[@jamiermathlin]

I am very happy to hear that I helped and thank you for comment 😀

[@ahkammontaj5465]

Personally, I would officially hire you from Adobe if I had the authority. It's the best advertisement for what a tool can do. All tutorials are great.

[@jamiermathlin]

Thank you for your kind words, I am delighted that you found my work interesting 😀

[@curtlernerphotography9371]

Beautiful work as always! (BTW - on a Mac, Command + 0 will quickly go to full screen in Photoshop - a lot quicker than having to tic the magnifying glass then the full screen button...)

[@jamiermathlin]

great tip, thank you, Command +0 for full screen in photoshop, awesome ! 😀

[@hurryupnwait9887]

Excellent tutorial Jamie. Thank you for making this. Your work is so inspiring, and I learned a lot about using masks in LR! 😃

[@jamiermathlin]

thank you for taking the time to leave a comment, it is very much appreciated 😀

[@simonryan6850]

Thinking about it I think it would be hard to do any live event as I’m usually shooting at ISO 1250 I really can’t think what could be done

[@jamiermathlin]

The first thing to consider is the Lightroom 'Denoise tool', this gives about 4-5 stops of noise improvement, so you could safely shoot up to ISO6400, giving you a little more headroom for higher shutter speeds 😀

[@cosmicaudio9452]

I really enjoy your videos and have learned much. I would note with the implementation generative credits it will only take a handful of images to use up the monthly allowance. Perhaps using the remove tool would work as well in many instances (like on the pole) and save the credits?

[@jamiermathlin]

You may well be right, such a shame that everything these days becomes too expensive to use. I think examples like I have shown you here will not be possible due to the cost. 😞

[@tiaoat2013]

Looks like with the Photography Plan we’ll get 250 GF per month. We’ll have to use them selectively.

[@jamiermathlin]

@@tiaoat2013 very sparingly :-)

[@davidstevensasidewayslook8831]

great tips and concise guidance …..

[@jamiermathlin]

thank you 😀

[@randelltuttle143]

At the risk of sounding critical, it looks like the light source is behind the buildings. Did you cover this and I missed it? I always learn so much from your tutorials. I look forward to your reply. Thanks.

[@jamiermathlin]

no worries about being critical, it helps me learn and consider different viewpoints. Getting the light direction in an edit is really important to maintain believability of the image, if the direction is not right, it can be off-putting to the viewer, your observation are fair 😀

[@menachemsadeh8603]

The use of generative fill is very impressive. However, the final picture seems somewhat not natural. The source of light is byond the buildings but there is light on the front of the buildings and especially the stairs. The street near the buildings should be naturally darker than the part of the street far from the buildings.

[@jamiermathlin]

You have a keen eye 😀 and you are very correct in your observations, the image is more about the demonstration of the tools now available with Photoshop 2024. If I were producing an image for a client or a commission, I would very much pay attention to such details 😀

[@eeanderson49]

Yeah I noticed that too and saw another video where the tutor was able to switch the light source. Do you have a video on that technique?

[@TheOriginalLordMike]

Very interesting..thanks!

[@jamiermathlin]

You are very welcome Mike 😀

[@andrewhillphotosvideos2909]

looking at this video I would be well happy with the results because when I remove a car it doesn't remove the shadow under the car and yes me too have had the same problems as Tom, remove a car and get a lorry in its place lol, where the hel did that come from I have no lorries in my photo haha.. maybe you paid more I dont know...

[@jamiermathlin]

Hi Andrew, I have noticed that the latest version of Generative Fill is not as good as the earlier versions, and you have to try different ways of making the initial selections to get what you are hoping for. If it stops working too well and it becomes too expensive, then we may just have to live with the clone stamp tool and remove tool 😀

[@erik1836]

Jamie, If the goal is to make the area selected as small as possible around the lamppost, for instance, why not use the magnetic lasso and then reduce the size of the pole by several pixels and then do generative fill know you definitely got it all?

[@jamiermathlin]

Very good question Erik, the answer is that you can use the magnetic lasso, however, this is currently not available in the new Photoshop 2024, it is available in the Beta version, but also you still must not exceed the 1024-pixel limit in any one direction, otherwise you will see a reduction of the resolution, hence why I demonstrated the 'splitting' of the lamp post to remove it, hope that helps 😀

[@TomTowles]

Really cool tips and edits. I have been having issues with generative fill recently. I do quite a bit of real estate and architectural shoots and for a while I was having great sucess using it to remove cars from in front of listings. Lately, it has been replacing the cars with other cars. One time it kept replacing the car with a row of hedges (when there was really no plant life in the area at all). I dont give any prompts but now its more miss than hit. Do you find some images where it just wont eliminate the car, but replaces it with something else?

[@jamiermathlin]

Hi Tom, yes I have also noticed with the more recent versions of Generative Fill that the removal process has become more hit-and-miss, you will note in this video I had to create a workaround to deal with the lamp post, I think the best version was 24.7 of the Beta, but like everything these days they get 'muck updated' 🙂. I find that changing how much 'overhang' of the selection I have makes a big difference. I hope that it get better not worse with time. Particularly, now it looks like we will be charged for its use with tokens from the start of Nov 23 😞

[@simonryan6850]

Do you, / can you do anything with a live band, I’ve no idea why if anything can/could be done at all?

[@jamiermathlin]

Hi Simon, are you referring to taking pictures of a live band playing music ?

[@simonryan6850]

@@jamiermathlin that’s what I do for my living

[@jamiermathlin]

@@simonryan6850 happy to have a look at your images and give you an honest critque, tell me where I can see them 😀

[@eeanderson49]

Deleting objects while preserving optimum resolution ... How can you tell if you have removed too big a chunk to have resulted in lower resolution? Zoom in to see pixelation?

[@jamiermathlin]

yes indeed, if you have taken to much in one go, when you zoom into 300or 400% you will see the lower resolution 😀

[@elsiepoynton9576]

Thanks so good

[@jamiermathlin]

thank you 😀

[@torowazup1]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼😎

[@jamiermathlin]

😀😀

[@geuser1979]

I know it's long shot but is it possible to create the light masks in photoshop without camera raw

[@jamiermathlin]

Photoshop used to have a lighting tool, which was really useful, however for some reason Adobe removed it, so I started using Lightroom instead, and ever since I have perfected the masking process in Lightroom, so I no longer do it in Photoshop. 😀

[@geuser1979]

Yep that what I was thinking some reason it's gone

[@eeanderson49]

I also noticed that you did not seem to create smart objects. Was there a reason for that?

[@jamiermathlin]

Not something that I worry to much about, I do use them sometimes for specific things, but generally I am not looking for a fully non-destructive approach, happy to just work for an output back to Lightroom :-)

[@andrewhillphotosvideos2909]

I found that the generative fill was better in the Beta version which is a strange one

[@jamiermathlin]

Yes, I have to agree...

[@marcystarnes5511]

how do you know the amount of 1024 you are picking

[@jamiermathlin]

This is the render resolution of the Generative Al application as stated by Adobe, 1024 x 1024 pixels, if you try to render a larger area than this, it interpolates the pixels (lowers the resolution), we are all hoping for a higher resolution in the near future 😀

[@RussP-m3j]

Love your work, but on this one the shadows from the trees are so out of normal that it is all I see. Maybe a sky with a sun to the right and higher would match. Wrong shadows ruin sky replacements. But love your day to night work.

[@jamiermathlin]

Yes, I should have selected a better sky, as I was more focused on the use of the generative fill tool, but point taken, now I am starting to get a bit of a following I need to pay more attention to the details. I appreciate the comment thanks 😀

[@RussP-m3j]

No worries. You are still teaching!!!@@jamiermathlin