Do YOU Want To Know Why WE Don't Use Sleeve Pullers?

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In past videos of removing cylinder sleeves, one of the comments we have always seen is "Why don't you use a sleeve puller?"
Well, the answer is within this video. In this case, a Ford 172 ci engine came into the shop after a customer had issues pulling the sleeves.
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[@travel_like]

Thanks for interesting video. Please make part 2 video

[@ronsoderberg6542]

oo⁹a 😮

[@stykytte]

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[@Ty81494]

Your video is great but just be honest the customer is a cheap fuck and buys cheap parts quality parts normally have less imperfections not all the time as humans we not perfect but by everything i seen in video yea hes a cheapy

[@piratewraith]

So you don't have do it twice. Counter bore to depth .005 -.007 deeper than the lowest point of the uneven deck height surface. This way you can dut the deck with the new sleeves in and save yourself time and aggravation.

[@alanweaver3017]

Shout out to the owner of the engine for not being like most of us guys and try to push though and make it work. You knew when to stop and ask for help. Fantastic work as always guys keep it up!!!!

[@belyear]

This is an often overlooked virtue. Knowing when things have gone wrong and getting help is almost as valuable as knowing how to do the job in the first place.

[@EddieTheH]

Yup, the wisest man is the one who knows his limits.

[@belyear]

@@EddieTheH absolutely

[@danielpotts9622]

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[@GardenGuy1942]

I think they’re a coward

[@mikejansa4501]

I'd love to see a part 2. The struggle between perfection, doing a job to the absolute best of your ability, and doing a good job, knowing it's not perfect but maybe perfect for the scenario is a common struggle! Love watching how you guys tackle these things and take the time to film, edit, and post these videos! Keep up the good work!!

[@Calango741]

Yep, exactly...

[@stephensaines7100]

Reality and pragmatism is to work with what it is now. But damn that! For the amount of work put in so far, to get it as close to perfect as possible isn't that much more. I have to ask, and I'm mechanically minded, but not an advanced mechanic: Would it be possible to hone the walls closer to round and insert the sleeves with a compound to fill the 'voids' or 'valleys' to at least improve the concentricity of the sleeves when machined?

[@LeonardRoberts]

I too would like to see a and part to the video. It's tough for machists, mechanics and others who strive to put out the very best product we can, however need to work within the customer's price range and desires/wishes.

[@crave809]

I found y’all thru the shorts and have fallen headfirst first into your channel, love the content and how down to earth you guys are. I can’t wait for more!

[@OutDoorsMan1342]

​@@stephensaines7100 hey mate, I'm not a mechinest, but I don't believe there is anything for an I.D. to fill voids. there is however a thing called a speedy sleeve fot the O.D. of a shaft like an axel, that has a groove worn into it by a seal to do a sami reliable repair. However in this case 1 could put the sleeves in and rebore and hone the bores, however it is still not a great practice due to the various thicknesses . But a great question none the less

[@deanmeyer1815]

I would like to see a part 2. Not necessarily the whole process, but, at least what decision the owner made and how the job turned out. I agree with your cleanup guy, take into consideration what the part is going to be used for and know that perfection is not always necessary to get the desired result and and can be overkill in some circumstances. Love the vids, very informative, thanks for taking the time to make and share them with us. Hope the Allis is trouble free and productive in the future.

[@billywird]

It is a money decision and in this case as stated the method put forth by Jim will be the most cost effective way to go. Most good shops are in constant communication with their customers. I would just document on the bill what was done and the reason for it. It protects the shop and it protects the customer.

[@adamrogers4706]

Definitely want a part 2. We need to know what the customer decided to do.

[@realtundratrash]

My favorite part about you and your dad's shop is that you guys have the wisdom to realize not everybody is made of money, and you're not working on Ferraris. Quality work and skill and attention to detail, but also the experience to know what's crucial and what's not. Keep up the good work! Loving the videos

[@philwilhelm2564]

I'm a 76 year old cancer patient. There are times I have to stay in bed for a long time wondering what to watch besides boring TV. Your videos for me are new, informative, refreshing, and simply easy to watch. (P.S. Even retired pilots get tired of watching airplane stuff.)

[@stephenphillips9661]

Would luv to see Part 2!!! As a mechanic / machinist I understand the customer’s budget is always a driving factor so it is always good the have options available and with the watching of other fellow machinist sometimes one will come across something that has been missed or discover that what they have been doing could be done better!!

[@billk9628]

Welding the sleeve will shrink them, weld beeds the length of the sleeve. Allow to cool, then pull it. When they shrink they may just fall out. Use this same technique for bearing races inside a case wall.😊

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

I was going to say that as well. Seen it plenty of times. Works every time.

[@bamzager]

Yes would like a part 2 on this. 🙂 For me the amount of perfection you put into the work relates to the amount of satisfaction you get out of it in the end. And it,s also part of keeping you going thru the years even when at times business is bad. That said, it,s also important to do the best job that the customer can afford. (within reason that is. Quality of the work comes first on this) Really like this channel, the content and the way it is presented, so thank you both for putting in the effort. 👍

[@billl7551]

13.22 is the best part of the wisdom of the job. Having done a few hundred rebuilds in the early 70's, I found this kind of shop expertise is the only shop to use. Nothing is ever perfect. It might be possible to hone the sleeves round after installation (w/torque plate), but tricky to keep from being too thin. Maybe there is excess wall thickness, it would be wise for the sleeve vendor to have that available. Your response to this option would be appreciated.

[@zdog90210]

I'm glad to see you guys getting that ad money. Personally idc who you advertise for I'm happy to see you guys and this channel growing!

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Thanks for understanding why we advertise! It's very time consuming to film, edit, create this content. We enjoy sharing our work with our viewers, but the ad income sure helps the bottom line!! It also will allow us to continue to grow and purchase new equipment.

[@stykytte]

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[@dwaynezilla]

Raidy Shady is a rite of passage at this point

[@johnhoops3531]

@@JAMSIONLINEkeep up the excellent work. Love all the detail you put into the video.

[@gboots9009]

I've rebuilt many N series Ford engines (8N, 9N, 2N) and the newer generation engines like this one, and can tell you the parent bore is never round. I don't think it's from poor previous machining, but more from these blocks being 70+ years old with countless heat cycles. While not the best way, I can say from experience that installing the sleeves and touching them up with a hone will absolutely work just fine for what that engine is. I understand wanting to do it right, but unfortunately, it doesn't always make sense financially from the customers' perspective when you can achieve satisfactory results using what you have.

[@RobertBeck-pp2ru]

Right on. Customers expectations should be tempered by reality. These work horses ran just fine in not so perfect blueprint condition.

[@rickden8362]

@@RobertBeck-pp2ru It seem like he should have assessed the condition of bores before you proceeded with decking and addition work. Some people might think he performed necessary work to lock the customer into completing a job he might not have proceeded with if he knew what lay ahead. Just an opinion. Cheers

[@Stevie_D]

Part 2 PLEASE!! Always informative and I love the fun and informative discussions between you and Dad.

[@73honda350]

Yeah, how perfect does an old 172 need ro be? It's probably never going to be driven very hard or very far ever again.

[@SeanBidwell]

Do it right the first time and it won't need to be done for a lot longer.

[@roccocroce]

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[@djeriejr3783]

They pay KZbinrs really well that’s why you see that same game on a lot of videos

[@zaneturner4478]

I enjoy watching you guys as you are 1st class in your work. It is great to see a young man following his dad in what is a great trade but sadly dieing out. In my area there is 20 or so machine shops with only 2 that are any good so I am looking at 4 months or longer to get work done. I retired from machine shop and sold my equipment, worst mistake I ever made.

[@markcollins457]

I enjoy the precision, I'm not a machinist but when I need to turn a job over to the pros this is what I'm looking for. This type of work is what makes finished work shine.😊

[@mikehole9530]

I vote for a part two. I really enjoy your channel and it's content. It would be great to see how this job ends up being finished.

[@muggins57]

I vote for a part 2. Your videos are always on par with the quality of your machine work!

[@justinteller2184]

Part 2 would be great. I want to see it finished whichever way you do it. Yeah sometimes sadly just not financially feasible on customers budget to get perfect work done for the customers everytime, but still great work!

[@andrewharding1061]

As a fellow machinist I love your content. I’m gearbox machinists so it’s nice to get to see the other processes. Keep up the great work!

[@rrcaniglia]

I come from Nebraska and have spent lots of time in small farm towns admiring the ingenuity of the machine shops/farm equipment repair folks. Pure, simple competence and you’re right there with ‘em.

[@andysfishden6506]

I vote for a part two, I'm interested to see what the owner decides to do. Also, do you do performance engine builds like for drag or circle track cars?

[@texastopshotsphotography2997]

Yes to a part 2. Let’s see how the customer and you guys resolve the situation.

[@Sicktrickintuner]

Would installing the sleeve and honing back round work? Or just knocking off the 2.5 thou undersized of the parent bore then at least it’s only 2.5 thou out and not 5 Then installing the sleeves and maybe getting those a thou more round then the bore? That might open up the tolerances, but it might be on the loose end and save the customer some $ overall

[@Charger1908]

I really enjoy watching you guys. I’ve always wanted to own a machine shop but life got in the way, now I’m to old. But I’ve learned to be a very knowledgeable mechanic through the years. Keep up the great vids see you soon!

[@sirmister4411]

It’s nice to have an expert cleaning guy but you should keep an eye n that guy I’ve heard he has been known to slack off a little. 🤣 A lot of people don’t understand those dry sleeves can be a real bitch to get out. They think they come out like a wet sleeve on a diesel. The way you do is it the best way and no block damage. How is the tractor running ?

[@stacy6014]

I faced this exact same situation on a 1951 Ford 8n engine. We decided to install 2 repair sleeves and bore them to standard ID for the replacement sleeves. Recut the counterbores and a slight decking to make it flat. Its been about 10 years now and it still runs good. Wish grandpa was around to see his tractor run better than it had in 50 years. Love the videos guys. Joe

[@zeke1eod]

Yes show us everything, please. I could watch machining videos nonstop. Thanks for all y'all do, stay safe and God bless

[@JohnH20111]

massive respect for you and your family for the amazing and impressive work that you’re doing i’m seriously impressed by the amount of work that you put into the precision of the work

[@billyhorton5779]

I removed the sleeves on an old farm tractor by arc welding a short bead vertically on opposite sides of the sleeve. After cooling off, the weld will shrink, and the sleeves are easily removed. This was all done "inframe" without removing the crankshaft. The owner just wanted to get it running as the tractor was an old farmall that was not worth much.

[@andrealt9261]

fantastic work u did there. i always enjoy. ur dad is right, sometimes u have to go shopping with the customers wallet, even if it isnt for a 101% quality outcome , even though u feel like to. edit: pls let there be a part 2 if its worth the time editing. thanks so much

[@billsmith2212]

As a kid in the 1970's , I made a delivery to a local gas station . I was told " we rebuilt that engine , right there on the floor " !😂😂😂

[@Turboy65]

Pro tip to keep your blasting cabinet's windows clearer, for longer: Before installing a new window have automotive paint protection film applied over it on the inside the cabinet surface. Blasting media will bounce off and not scratch it, or very little, plus the stuff is self healing. You should get substantially improved window life this way.

[@RossReedstrom]

This is a really cool tip! It's one of those things that's obvious once you say it. Surprised (not surprised: cost cutting) they don't come that way.

[@donniceblakely1075]

You are a blessed young man being able to work with you father . The cleaning guy is not only a great machinist but a pretty good dad also. As always fellows I enjoy watching your videos

[@GogogoFolowMe]

At 05:15 you mentioned your dad, it would be nice to meet him one time on video. We only get to see the cleaning guy every now and then ! [edit] correct time stamp on the video instead of the premiere.

[@JAMSIONLINE]

lol

[@GogogoFolowMe]

@@JAMSIONLINE Hehe :) That's so satifying to have only a paper-thin cylinder to remove from the block

[@Benny-dv7xm]

if you can't do the over-boring with this guy PLEASE upload another video of this process. Perhaps where it is WildKrafting\Preservation, Existential, BushKraft, Small Ecologikal minded farms you kould establish a not-for-profit to have the money available to do the job korreckt for those that legitimately kan't afford all or none of the expense. Also, from another social\politikal angle get involved in konfirmation and\or invaidation of the mud floods, resets, and antiqui-tech. Certainly you kan as a motor builder by now have seen the difference mentally and spiritually of the 'Old World' of our Red, White, Blue, Green and other forebearer Natives and Indigenous living for tge sake of life and not warrant buffets greed or wef kult evidenced through much more efficient designs and quality builds kompared to the kurrent garbage economic based unijohn system game with social tacktics used against us simulated reality dumbing everyone down inkluding genetikally and aetherially🤔

[@cen-flotrucking9876]

Part 2!

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Noted!

[@normcameron2316]

I kind of skimmed through the vid, so I may have missed something, or a lot. When I run into a block twisted like this, I always think overheating. Then I think, with a block as old as this one appears to be, maybe out of a tractor where the engine is actually part of the frame, a lot of twisting forces might have occurred. As to speaking about the last person/shop who worked on this engine, he might have not machined anything. He may have been in the same boat as you with customer not wanting to spend money and requesting only new rings, then later claiming it was rebuilt. As to dry sleeves, one has to remember they are not a "press fit", they are a "shrink fit" which is a whole new measure of tightness created by chilling the liner to way below zero, -40 or more. The liner pretty much becomes bonded to the block. Hence, your system of boring the liner out is the solution. Trying to pull or knock a dry liner out of place is unlikely, if it does pop out it's loose and the block bore is worn.

[@SugarWolf09]

I would love to see a part 2! What is the difference price wise to do 'just good enough' vs 'doing it right'? I have no idea, I'm not in this industry, but I love this content, keep up the good work!

[@williambrandondavis6897]

Sorry, I thought a was watching a video for adults until you interrupted with an advertisement for a video game. Bye bye.

[@toggenation]

Verifying trust... Love the verbal walk-throughs you do of your machining processes.

[@dragonsyph2557]

PLEASE Equalize your sound. The volume goes up and down like crazy.

[@cobra02411]

I personally would love to see part 2 - no matter what direction you go. Not everyone has oodles and oodles of money for such things so you do the best you can and knowing what acceptable compromises there are and when you would use them vs something else is great information to get out there.

[@teamidris]

Meh, warping the liner is bad, cast hates that, but it is under compressive force. So I will call it good enough :) Plus it will be really tight at running heat. If the circumference was off I wouldn’t try it, it has to be tight. (Hot spots if it has a gap at the top)

[@88SC]

Great video! I really enjoy the way you show us the decision process as well as the work process.

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Conservator.]

5:15 You asked for a comment, do here you go 😊 Love content. Greetings from The Netherlands!

[@jedimasterted4712]

Technically all damage is s detrimental. Js, love your content, and your helper, give that man a raise and a promotion already.

[@jeffnevius]

You can take your mig and weld a bead 90 degrees apart, so 4 beads the length of the sleeve let cool they shrink enough and come right out.

[@ZMAN_420]

Same with bearing races. But I prefer the air hammer.

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Have seen damage and failed attempts from our customers who use their welders too 🤣 But yes it works, if you’re careful. We still prefer boring.

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Running a bead of weld up and down the sleeve wall as you have suggested is a very bad idea. If you are skilled enough to not burn through the thin sleeve and weld the sleeve to the block, the heat will penetrate deep enough into the parent bore and create distortion in the block. Then if the sleeve does not come out as expected, it cannot be bored out because welding cast iron creates extremely hard spots that our cutters will not touch. Next time you do one that way, check the parent bore with a bore gauge when you get done. You will see what I am talking about. The Cleaning Guy.

[@Mountain-Man-3000]

The cleaning guy knows.

[@Jurgy777]

Everyone thinks they're a welder.. But just because you own a welder doesn't mean you are one.

[@Joe___R]

Would you be able to make your own oversized sleeves? As long as you have a good lathe sleeves are not a difficult thing to machine. Just get some cast iron tubing that is close to the necessary size. McMaster-Carr most likely has what you would need if your local supplier doesn't.

[@honkie247]

Use an arc welder and a 1/8 diameter rod to run a vertical bead in the sleeve. Let it cool, turn the engine over on blocks and the sleeve drops out.

[@stevenm3141]

Definitely need an update! And it's first time I've heard of sleeve in sleeve... However, is it because someone has stoned the cylinders too much the wrong way.? Or do you think it's a factory situation?

[@JAMSIONLINE]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKC7eJ2hbsemisU It’s an older video, but take a look 🤓 In this case the damage is likely just years of service. You would be surprised what a piston can do to a cylinder in that much run time…

[@yafois988]

Thats what we did in my machine shop, just bore sleeves out usually.

[@rossilake3430]

Jim knows, everything we do is to a price point. If it were one of my classics I would spend the money. Every good shop has a Shop Dog, apparently you x-boxers have a loyal couch dog also. Lol...Jim has great hair (don’t mess) compared to 75% of us his age. Love the channel.👍

[@rickden8362]

It seem like he should have assessed the condition of bores before you proceeded with decking and addition work. Some people might think he performed necessary work to lock the customer into completing a job he might not have proceeded with if he knew what lay ahead. Just an opinion. Cheers

[@joannaatkins822]

I'm with everyone else in that I'd like an update if not a Short, or short video about this block. I have a question; what's the worst condition block you've brought back to life to your highest standards? Would you say that was the straight six jaguar engine?

[@garthvader801]

I left as soon as you started selling video games in the middle of the video. Bummer

[@tonyking9235]

FROM BRITAIN.

[@mitchellgiebelhaus8020]

I do larger industrial natural gas engines, most often they have wet liners so pullers or sockets and baring the engine push them out. We sometimes have to get machinists out to cut counter bores and make inserts for the wet liners. Don't think I've see you guys have a video on that! Would be cool the next time you have a chance to do it!

[@Chris-cz6hn]

I am a machinist, Cylindrical grinding OD/ID is my trade with a bit of lathe and flat work when its slow. Somehow after spending 10 hours watching sparks I still am able to be entertained by your videos and that says a lot about the quality of your videos. Plus there is always something I can learn. Thanks for the hard work guys keep it up.

[@barblemons5397]

Usually in such work all you can do is remove metal because it gets expensive real quick to replace it. Case in point would be sleeves inside of sleeves or custom sleeves. Good job! Tom

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Great videos 👍

[@kevinmcguire3715]

I am a learning machinist and had a question .When do you bore and deck a block with it mounted off of the crank saddles as opposed to the oil pan flange you are using here? Thanks

[@bcbloc02]

Pan flange and crank bore may not be parallel. The crank bore dictates where everything else should be as far as parallel so it is the best reference surface to base off of.

[@sethvlieger6007]

Would like to see a part 2.

[@michaelprue9024]

This was my watching the 4th video by you guys. I am a 35 year journeyman diesel mechanic, so I get it. Now I am a subscriber. You guys are doing exactly the type of work I always wanted to do but never learned. I love it, and if I were living closer by I’d bet I’d be dropping in on your shop just to shoot the breeze and maybe garnish some knowledge from you. Thank for the content, it’s awesome !

[@rollydoucet8909]

Looking at those bores, and seeing how out-of-round they are, the only option is to get slightly bigger (OD) sleeves. We often call on Darton, or LA Sleeve for custom-made sleeves, if nothing is available off the shelf. I like this video, good straight forward description work being done.

[@RK48frazergasser]

This is why you guys will always do my machine work. You go clean up guy your awesome

[@studdy68]

Absolutely want a part 2. And there's nothing at all wrong with having a low RPM motor that works solid and wont be abused. They can run forever if you take care of them.

[@oBseSsIoNPC]

WOW that block is bad! I think the guys in India in their flip flops and wore out machines would have done a better job than the factory. JESUS!

[@onecookieboy]

Nice video, many thanks. In this case I think putting the liners in as it is would be perfectly acceptable and quite possibly better than it was when it was brand new, machining and tolerances that can be achieved have improved so much over the last 50 years that we can do things now that were impossible back in the day.

[@bcbloc02]

Can't blame the last guy for that block being out of spec. That is what you normally see from old blocks that have been hot the distort, heck all blocks distort. Boring holes that far out of round would typically be a difficult task as it would require an extreme out of tram condition to put that much ovality in a spinning circular cutter. Or the block would have to be consistently harder and softer to make the cutter dig more or less but likely an operator would have detected that with that much difference. I commonly see blocks distorted like this and the same goes for the head. They didn't have a contoured machine to put those dips and valleys in it that is the results of the cast iron growing and shrinking differently from different levels of heat. Most 6cyl blocks almost always go low in the middle because that part of the block is the hottest and the heat shrinks it. If your gauge is on nominal if you put the sleeves in the distorted block and they follow the same pattern you should be able to clean it up with the hone to get it round but will probably wind up close to the low end of worn spec if they didn't give you any extra on the sleeve. I can usually get sleeves in about any size I need from melling pretty quick and affordable if you wanted to lathe out some oversize ones and fix the block bores back exact. Personally I would suggest going with the sleeves in the out of round bores hone true then use oversize rings file fit to proper end gap clearance but run on the stock pistons. 001" or .002" extra piston to wall clearance noise on a farm tractor will never be heard and it won't hurt anything at all.

[@tstevens6554]

Absolutely do a Part II. You guys have some enjoyable and satisfying content and you do great work.

[@rogerbayzand4455]

Looking forward to part 2, sounds like those sleeves are going back in as is. It looks like a 2700 series Ford which powered many of my fishing boats.

[@geoffmolyneux9173]

Spray weld/re boring would be another option to make cylinder sleeve block OD bore smaller. Or you could spray weld cylinder sleeve OD bigger. Maybe one day there will be a 3D additive printer to fix old engine blocks

[@Hotbeefsamich]

Use those sleeves, hone it +.005 or +.006 and send out the pistons to Line2Line coatings in Michigan. Just tell them to add +.006" to the skirts. DONE

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Another option I hadn’t considered!

[@bcbloc02]

@@JAMSIONLINE Go old school and knurl the pistons oversize.

[@windyboy78]

Just subbed! As a machinist I respect your care and accuracy with your measuring and setup. Cheers mate!

[@tconiam]

Love watching experienced professionals at work, I learn so much about things I would never have thought of! I think I missed out on not learning machining. As something of a perfectionist myself, I totally understand that sometimes you have to just stop at good-enough.

[@ovlraglvr]

I’d like a part two to see how round the hone can make the sleeve after being pressed into an oval parent bore.

[@stevesvoboda9816]

Does that cleaning guy work part time? I rarely see him work?

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Semi-retired lol

[@stevesvoboda9816]

@@JAMSIONLINE I'm 58. I get it. Lol

[@wryghty]

Personally, If I'm going through the trouble of a rebuild with all new sleeves im not half-assing it. Make it all true and be done

[@karlfischer1011]

H Farmall (1940s) with a service replaceable (dry) sleeve style engine, I'd try the specific puller. Ford parent bore block with a repair sleeve, ship directly to a machine shop. Later (1960s) dry sleeve International/Farmall engines had tighter tolerance fits so i would consider a machine shop vs my barn. Knowing your limits is a good skill to have 😊

[@ManVsOven]

Very good video, Yes, follow up video would be great... also, if I can contribute $ to help customer have you do the job 'right'... I'm going way overboard on a motor rebuild now... home to post all my re-engineering stuff... hope to get 70 mpg on my TDI diesel motor build

[@crassbusinessman3122]

Me thinking: "Wait...it's pretty far off. How do you know it's not your setup?? Oh okay...then. XD" Excellent work

[@lateefcarrere1649]

I'd appreciate a pt.2, and let me also say that I appreciate that you take the customer's opinion/budget into consideration when planning your next steps in a repair like this. I had a shop(recommended by a friend) do some work for me, but instead of reaching out to me and informing me of the situation they encountered, they decided to just do the work and charge me extra. Needless to say, I was not impressed, and they lost future business with my friend and others after I told them and the proper authorities.

[@bishopcorva]

I know that it's hard to not do what you want to do for the most optimal result costs and time be dammed. But that's just how things go sometimes. Looking at the parent bores, a large part of me says to hit them with a hone at least a few swipes to clean them up first for the new sleeves to not have rust trapped in between them. Which if you're going that route, it'll be even more tempting to bore oversized and sleeve accordingly. So that you won't have perfection itch in the back of the mind.

[@davidmattice3752]

Myself I always make adapter to pull sleve on lathe, and if there really tight(over 30 tonnes) just run beeds of weld up down on inside of sleeve. They will almost fall out

[@alexyo3927]

Always love the videos. You all do great work. Obviously we want it all perfect every time.

[@TheMoomba19]

Yesterday I watched this video. I fully enjoyed it. However, I have a question. On the face of the block, (front) right below the camshaft port there is a jagged looking hole. Looks like someone hit it with a hammer. Now, I think it may be crazy to ask if that is normal...but is it? I'm sure you wouldn't be doing all that work on a bad block. Thanks, Mark

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Saved another one, a huge factor is the end result works!

[@justinschroder6094]

Is that an Oldsmobile Starfire/Buick Skyhawk/Pontiac Sunbird/Chevrolet Monza at the wall?

[@chubbysumo2230]

Given how uneven the surface of the block was, that head gasket was doing work for all those years.

[@archangel3237]

I'll never understand trying to make things work when you've taken the time to tear the whole thing down and go to a machine shop. By the time you're that far in, now's the time to do everything as perfectly as possible and not have to worry about it again.

[@customfab8622]

I too used to call them oil galleys.... I have since been corrected a few years ago, and rightfully so. Its OIL GALLERY

[@haydenc2742]

Could you run a bead of weld vertically up the sleeve to shrink it to help pull it pull the sleeves without causing issues with the bore?

[@fascistpedant758]

That was my first thought also.

[@danjosephson6910]

I've done that. H Farmall. Two came right out with a puller. A couple of weld beads loosened the other two. Just a word of caution to anyone who hasn't done it, just make sure you don't burn through the sleeve when welding. It doesn't take much and they shrink loose.

[@BulletproofPastor]

You do beautiful work. A good machine shop is a treasure but getting difficult to find. Today's manufacturing trends don't lead to repair or rebuilding.

[@tomfuelery2905]

Since most people don't have a boring/milling machine laying around, a couple of welding beads in those liners usually does the trick.

[@typrus6377]

As a heavy diesel technician, I do not enjoy dry sleeves. You essentially have to get the machine shop involved, for all of the listed reasons here. Is it nicer than parent-bore for a lot of applications? Sure. But compared to wet-sleeve for serviceability, it isn't even close. As long as the cooling system maintenance has been looked after and the lower sealing counterbore hasn't been eroded/cavitated/corroded, then you just need to verify proper protrusion and go. If the protrusion is too low, it's a very straightforward deal to learn proper use of a quality counter-bore tool, to cut new CB's and set up shims for ideal protrusion. Over a decade of Cat, Cummins, Perkins, Kubota, International experience- mainly Cat and Cummins. First 2 in-frames were a DT466E and a 3406E(5EK). Had an Isuzu 4BD2 (3.9L diesel 4-cyl) we were going to re-ring in my first year wrenching, and we found it had dry sleeves that were thinner than exhaust pipe. Had to let the machine shop handle the removal. Install wasn't too bad, they froze the sleeves with dry ice (Per the manual) and they dropped right in. All of that being said, good job here gents.

[@tonysabatino4725]

Yep let’s see another installment. Hopefully the owner will spring for concentric cylinders. Blow by is a real thing. I think the oversized sleeve is a good idea.

[@Bob-cx4ze]

Knowing when to stop is the difference between a mistake and a big mistake. That's pretty much a learned skill. 😂

[@waynejefferies8487]

After scrolling through most of the comments, I feel a bit overawed. I think Jim and his son are incredible operators. My story: a few years ago I had a 250 CI crossflow engine (Australian Ford design) rebuilt by a local engine rebuilder. Not stuffed but badly worn. After finding these precision rebuilding and machining videos on youtube I was prompted to show my appreciation to my engine rebuilder, by describing some of the procedures I had been watching on youtube. Their response was (in no way arrogantly) "we do that sort of thing all the time". When paying for the rebuild so the engine could go back to the workshop, the manager calmly observed "we put in a stage 1 cam for a bit more lower down torque, also fully balanced". This is in a reproduction WW2 jeep (shock horror from the purists, but mine is for fun, although appearing as stock as possible). My new engine runs like a turbine!!. Although in my later years, I am inspired to buy a modest metal lathe and do a bit of hobby machining. I will probably never rebuild a vehicle engine, but I might take on a small engine project just as a challenge. People like you allow those of us with no machining background but an appreciation of the skills involved to at least have a go! Thank you, Wayne Jefferies. PS: have a look at Cutting Edge Engineering for some industrial machining and welding!!

[@meharsamba]

3000th 10,000th 20,000th...americans will use anything but metric...jesus christ so much fro perfectionists..

[@sinisatrlin840]

My cousin has made oversized sleeves from worn out liners. They where so thick that lots of material was removed. Liners from smaller German diesel engines are commonly used, from old Mercedes or Deutz engines. Excellent quality material.