Jan Ove Waldner[The King of Service]

[@ramlosa98]

For all of you that says it's illegal now: When Waldner played it wasn't illegal, so technically it's the same for every player that played during his time.

[@samitavaroy6813]

Exactly

[@wolfganghuss3352]

in this time you can do this ..under the arm ... you cant see what coming ..i do this in this time too !!! but the regular changed ..and than its illegal when you do this ... more time later you can play with vh and RH in red ... and stampfen dazu ...nobody see and heard what comeing ... (one side with long noppen)

[@c-moebuilds9460]

This guy literally got nerfed.

[@luigividal4224]

hahahaha

[@elijahmunguia8736]

C-Moe Builds lol

[@pontusolssonPrivat]

Yep

[@stew880]

Nerfed to the ground👎

[@iceman_3825]

Game dev note- V 2.0: no hidden serves

[@CagleConcepts69]

Jan Ove Waldner has inspired me since I was a kid... he has and always will be the BEST OF TABLE TENNIS... I would love just to see him play... he has the BEST SERVE AND GAME OF ALL TIME!

[@Natureforce8]

He was the best table tennis player of his era and probably the third or fourth best player in the history of table tennis if you look at achievements. I think third best.

[@khaledshinnawy5621]

he is no. 1

[@dickn.ormous1064]

@@Natureforce8 titles wise second only to Ma Long but ML had joke competition.

[@rired2005]

Not just his serves... He could literally block down most/many players, drive-block on his BH for outright winners off the other guy's loop... very under-rated part of his game.

[@rired2005]

The greatest server, and one of the top 5 players, IMO, of all time. You cannot name one player the best as you cannot compare different eras. Waldner's numbers (match wins) over the years were incredible.

[@analogsound]

You can. Waldner is the only player in the world whose every video is watched. Which other player can claim that?

[@rogerengblom5061]

He is nr 1 in history of all tennis player noone isnt even close, thats for sure.

[@apbweezle]

He was so good that they changed the rules so the others would have a chance.

[@ermattia]

Which rule did they change?

[@tahmidahnaf3834]

Which rule???

[@Benlo]

@@ermattia Service can not be hidden, must be visible to the opponent at all times. Rule was changed in 2003, before then you can hide it how ever you want.

[@richardjochman2411]

It's not a skill if you hide your serve

[@rosamelfierro6093]

Waldner is my all time favorite player, but I'm agree. It's not fair to hide your service.

[@MusicisPartofMe5]

wow he serves under his own arm to disguise which way the ball is going to go and what kind of spin he gonna put on it, than completely abandons this technique to confuse them, and he does it so perfectly

[@allenx4229]

+vballmusicGod it's against the rules to do that now...i think.

[@wambo6186]

+Allen X yes today its agains the rules

[@samitavaroy6813]

@@wambo6186 stop talking about today.Video was of waldners generation

[@xtheAwake]

Amazing services. But to be honest, I'm glad these kinds of services(hidden services) are now illegal.

[@TTTTCJGKS]

Why? All it did was make the serve a less viable option in a game scenario. You can literally see what kind of spin is on the ball every time if you have a good eye and a good receive. Not so fun if you ask me...

[@grenoliw8667]

Xander Projections so you have an impressive eye and stunning spin effect reading skills.. and even a big audience has the same skills.. sure thing.

[@westrussel7037]

What is the problem, everyone could hide serve! Rules apply to everyone. 🙂

[@turkarslan0811]

actually he is not hidin' he just fakin'

[@guillaumelecam6257]

No that's a shame

[@liebestraumer]

How we like to see today in day this kind of moves which today already are not made- Waldner gave table tennis that shine and brilliance that only the loved to do, and displays today continues to do them and everyone applauds! It is fantastic I personally try to imitate some things, but clearly the has a unique talent. And it also has a sense of humor that today is strange. Only have reached that level of humor lately Chuan Chi Yuan and Jean Michel Saive.

[@kejaritomeneticuantepe]

This man is incredible! The best serve!

[@The_Paddle_Smith]

When hiding the serve was legal...

[@reformCopyright]

Good or bad rule change?

[@lykiamaster1846]

Good

[@talhasakar3349]

I think good

[@Hunter-gy9xn]

yeah

[@TheCsePower]

They made it illegal because of HIM

[@crl1239]

I wish more people would do Waldner serve compilations. I think they're amazing.

[@SylvainBerube]

They are illegal now (you can't hide the ball with your body).

[@loveruoo1307]

@@SylvainBerube literally takes a skill factor away. They were just much worse then him. And they couldnt handle it.

[@MRDOA66]

Jan Ove Waldner one of the world's greatest table tennis Players. Certainly the best player from Sweden. Great strategist, tactician, and maestro of the game.

[@akirakurosawa2791]

there are very good players. wang liqin, ma long, zhang jike, timo, and some others. but no one is as genius as waldenr. he is uniqe in the hsitory of tt.

[@stevenhuang1142]

His service and blocking skills were second to none.

[@Shavee_Shavee1608]

he will be always the king of service :D

[@DonG191]

Jan Ove Waldner represents the rise and fall of the dominance of the Swedish men table tennis team. He was the man leading the Swedish men table tennis team to win the gold medals of Men's team event of World Table Tennis Championship in 1989, 1991, 1993 and 2000 (the only other time Sweden winning the gold mdeal of men's team event of World Table Tennis Championship was 1973). He is the last Swedish to win men's single world title in world table tennis Championship in 1997.

[@pontusm]

Mmmm oki

[@thehoogard]

Wouldn't call him the leader of the 1989 squad. Arguably that was Appelgren.

[@marsa74]

The good old times. When the ball was smaller and spin played an important role. When TT was played from hand and arm because the floor was slippery, sometimes wood, and you could not jump around like today. When players had to combine brain and decent physics. When, unfortunately, the game was mostly hidden from the spectators. Nowadays, it’s pure athletics but, yes, for the regular audience it looks more spectacular.

[@dickn.ormous1064]

Banana flicking every serve doesn't look spectacular and certainly doesn't take much athleticism otherwise Harimoto wouldn't be a master at 14yo .

[@wolfganghuss3352]

in this time you can do this ..under the arm ... you cant see what coming ..i do this in this time too !!! but the regular changed ..and than its illegal when you do this ... more time later you can play with vh and RH in red ... and stampfen dazu ...nobody see and heard what comeing ... (one side with long noppen)

[@indra7007]

One word,, amazing..

[@TableTennisTactics]

1:24 scorer's face = my face when I see in Waldner in person.

[@Necronomous]

J-O Waldner, best swedish table tennis-player that have been existed. Well, according to his accomplishments, he is one of the best. He should be amongst the top 10 in the world. I mean look at it. Swedish championships, gold medals and silver medals only from 1988-2010. That says alot. And yeah, most gold then silver during the time. That means, he was good even if the "hide the ball"-shit services was illegal in the sports. So nope, it was not his services that was his biggest weapon. It was his skills. Period.

[@Natureforce8]

If you look at achievements, he is the third or fourth best player of all time in table tennis. I think the third best. Anyway, he is the only European in the top 5 best of all time.

[@jakeyn8301]

gamerke X what about Timo Boll

[@ecke9635]

@@jakeyn8301 not even close

[@Eldin873]

He is the reason why this type of service got banned... #legend

[@hanshuang6438]

LGL is

[@dickn.ormous1064]

@@hanshuang6438 LGL lost to nobodies in the 2001 WTTC while the old serve rules were stil in effect.

[@hanshuang6438]

@@dickn.ormous1064 So the bronze medal winner of 2001 WTTC is nobody. How interesting.

[@hanshuang6438]

@@dickn.ormous1064 Also I wonder how would you comment on the fact that Waldner didn't even reach as far as LGL in 2001 WTTC?

[@dickn.ormous1064]

@@hanshuang6438 He lost to Chiang Peng.Waldner even at 36 still won all his matches in Teams whereas LGL warmed the bench after losing to a Dutch lefty who was ranked 150 in the World.

[@imperialmarchinhumanbowels5726]

These clips make me realize that JOW isn't as much "the master of placement" as that he just looks that way because he's "The master of deceptive telegraphs"; he has this way of making you think that he's going to place the ball at one place by looking at place and moving in a certain way while in reality aiming for another place; he does this a lot in rallies too where the balls goes to a different direction you expect it to go to.

[@h0xt0n]

wtf watching in 2018 still worth it not gonna lie this serve is insane

[@blutzwaves4471]

The original "You got Served"

[@soffisaad5520]

Follow JO Waldner since his Olimpik vs France player during 1980's.

[@pbsmick]

They all just got "served" by God!

[@nunezlover43]

pbsmick hell yeah

[@boybadbang8228]

They were before the hidden serve is illegal

[@gdauneau]

Ce ga est une légende ! Il voit des choses qu’on ne voit pas

[@TheGrandmaster1]

I miss when we could serve under our arm like this. It looked so cool and set up all kinds of crazy possibilities. If you ask me Table Tennis started going straight to hell with the 11 pt games and the nerfed serve rules. I got on board with the 40mm ball because even though it was awkward at first, you did have a lot more control eventually. But yeah, Table Tennis pre 2000 was the best. I haven't played in 5 years, so I guess....they have different materials for the ball now? And it feels different?

[@RalphHund]

Now it's all about being the best robot.

[@BGIS2000]

Did not know him before, but I found my services technique and servicing to corners and edges like him, although I am not so good spinning.

[@umints]

The best there was, the best that is ever going to be.

[@videomailYT]

^^ everyone struggle like there's no tomorrow and Jan Ove Waldner played like it's a walk in the park...what a rascal, but in a good way... XD 😉👍

[@erwillnatalio8187]

Happy to serve

[@per7481]

So, basicly hes faking a diagonal serve by instead hitting the ball under his arm with the same techique.

[@drake71000]

The era when hiding the serve was legal. It would have been easier for the opponents to pick these serves at present time. You can see the videos of Ma Long doing the same in serve without hiding it.

[@Ander01SE]

He was the complete package, not just serve. Defense, offensive, ball placement and innovative, always keeping the opponent guessing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bp6rmmaPq812epY kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJaThHR7ecdsiaM

[@kuroko7771]

c'est un des seul aux monde voir le seul a faire des aces en quantité c"est un génie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tapiocamango]

2:48 was this like the first GoPro or something? Neat shot for the era.

[@jperssonisthebest]

King Of Table Tennis!

[@iraklialasania3258]

Very fast ,well done

[@eloimumford5247]

What i find amazing is his calm hiding an inferno ! Waldner body language should be studied in depth ...a lot to learn .

[@Destames]

GENIUS!

[@MrJesseLabadlabad]

even i f it's not hidden it's hard to read

[@Masked_Vitality]

He is so cool

[@hangintree33]

the ever green tree :-)

[@gdounito]

dudes, you obviously dont know the rules back then. Hidden services were allowed everybody did that, its just that servers like waldner ma lin or liu guoliang had much more fantasy and creativity. Schlager also!

[@shivanihomedecor4871]

what a service

[@w1nn4h]

That time these serves were legal but these days they aren't anymore.

[@dongadinonga9221]

Please slow motion videos

[@ash__134]

I lost count of how many serves he uses

[@義道秋風]

Why was he so strong? I think many people who don't know table tennis well couldn't understand the reason .

[@vika0194]

strong? it is about skill and technique

[@SegaFreak]

Extremly hidden services!

[@jperssonisthebest]

they are correct tho

[@mariusatyt]

in those times this was legal to serve like this.

[@jperssonisthebest]

im aware of that Marshall17101972 ;)

[@miltontordas]

Gatien, lindh, Legout, Ding Yi and rosskopf were all players that were hiding the serves as much as Waldner. Waldner is the king of service because he was always variating his with a lot of topspin or with a lot of backspin while he made it look like it was the opposite spin

[@gustavmardby9364]

M Tordas ikr i mean look at 2:19!

[@detskalldaltas133]

Ha,ha it was only Jörgen Persson who smiling when he was out of space.

[@HK-mg1ms]

卓球の神🐱✨

[@Nutelko8]

Its good that you cant hide your serve anymore

[@batman4784]

hidden service rules... can you share some more light on it !!!

[@chandiego]

Ujjval Verma In the old table tennis times, this was legal. But yeah, you're right.

[@RickAnderson1]

before the new service rules went into affect a few yrs ago you used to be able to hide the point of contact...when the ball hit your paddle during a serve....and by not seeing the point of contact it was harder for the receiver to read the spin...since he never got to see what spin was imparted on the ball

[@needtoknowbasis5620]

seems like he blocks view of ball when serving. The ball drops behind his non serving arm. Anyone have any input on this?

[@guillaumelebouvier3222]

Respect...

[@hanzhimeng]

you cant serve like this anymore..

[@ZimowHD]

Allen Han So?... You could when he was doin't And he was the best at it

[@mistercat6169]

Allen Han why???????

[@ZimowHD]

The Rules dident have anyting against his way of serve when he played

[@ZimowHD]

elphue s. And he stopped play before that rule came

[@MsShadowLugia]

+ZimowHD he still played while the serve rule was banned. he still played pretty well.

[@mattluis2892]

Sorry I dont know much about table tennis, but why dont his opponents stand in the middle of the table to defend his possible services on the other side?

[@bentonxavier5094]

so the opponent has more space to play a forehand on the open part of the table

[@manuelbravo7749]

Excelebt!!!!

[@damiancasanova6549]

wouldn't the serve on the 35 second illegal? he was covering the ball with his left hand.

[@watsonzou3059]

much more than beautiful....

[@JoKiTrOn]

Since the winning points of the set have been reduced to 11 from 21 I think that it the best call ittf could take by making these services illegal.Losing some points from serves back then is not the same as now with the 11 points required.

[@righthandside1372]

Agree with you 100%

[@aifukami2052]

why illegal? the oppenent can do it too....its just about the skill. if both side can do it , why not"?

[@ttclips1886]

Ahaha 2:37, anyone notice the man in the yellow top in the crowd, just above Waldner worshipping him!

[@muhammadazwar5027]

Master of service J o waldner Michael maze Ma lin Kenta matsuidara And the girl player is din ning This my opinion, and your opinion..?

[@inyourface123]

Micheal Maze no way...I will include Schlager...Yoshimura and Par Gerrel have some tricky serves too (without going into the controversy about the legalities).

[@FBR2169]

Kentas serve is not that deceiving i think. It just looks flashy. Yoshimura is indeed a good contender and I think Dimas serve is also really tricky

[@inyourface123]

@@FBR2169 yeah Dima's serves too. In particular, his BH serves are very deceptive with amazing variety in spin, speed, length and placement.

[@RyanDGreen1984]

Mozart

[@ВсехЛюблю-ю3т]

icon

[@eatens]

I forgot this was an old video and got confused at 0:23 when the score was 19 to 10

[@slinkytreekreeper]

Miss old TT, I stopped watching it after they killed the craft by nerfing the rules to try and make it more rallies. Any proper fan would still enjoy the art, pongers just need to accept it's not going to be more popular outside of Asia whatever they do - people turned off by serving skill and the mental side of the game should go and play crown green bowling or darts. Same happened in Tennis making balls heavier, less pressure, bigger. I still enjoy hidden serves playing with friends and it's where the fun is.

[@dwiprastyo9055]

Very god your serve

[@Nerdcrusher]

Mah point.

[@takitezy7]

Waldner is the best 'gweilo' to have ever played the game.

[@dr.vishaldahiya9760]

Good receive block and topspin

[@podamaire]

Many a times he used to hide point of contact behind his left hand

[@detskalldaltas133]

Now Sweden have SILVER in WM 2019! FALCK!

[@jrk1666]

If you ever wondered why you need remove your throwing hand such that it doesn't obscure the impact point, this is why

[@pruthivip8217]

I don't know much about tt but dont you have to serve onto the exact opposite side of the derver

[@pruthivip8217]

Server*

[@lennythecat5870]

nope

[@lennythecat5870]

it isnt like tennis

[@OsmanKokcu]

Magic Hand ❤❤❤ my Steel the Best forever

[@rarararararararara]

38㎜ボールでの21点制でサービス5本交代でハイドサーブがありな卓球がラージボールみたいな別の種目で復活して欲しいな。

[@DaigoParry]

Same. It's like it's not the same game anymore. It doesn't feel the same. :( They should do it like racing. Different classes of car racing. GT2, LMP1 class of cars, open wheelers.

[@geitekop507]

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!

[@uranusP]

serves not allowed today;(

[@8020Alive]

2:21 oh wow!

[@wiktornordqvist528]

Isn’t the serve at 0:56 illegal because of the arm

[@sadrobot5501]

Not back then

[@TheOlzee]

Combination with his third ball attack.

[@NelsonYum]

how pitiful that these kinds of service are banned nowadays.... is protecting those who cannot read the serve really that desirable?

[@abbey-h9m]

Bester Spieler aller Zeiten!

[@mgazerr9700]

Why he hiding the ball? Is it illegal

[@gabrielfuentes4369]

No by that time

[@ElAteo01]

Liu Guoliang todas esas partidas el las devolvía y además con remache

[@ScipioWasHere]

Iunno how I got here, but these serves make me sick. What a player.

[@村上一夫-d6u]

大好き！ワルドナー😍

[@olegnekhaev]

He Is realtà Grest player!

[@Kevin-zl3ci]

For you see China, you aren't dealing with the average European player anymore, he has become the legendary grandslam champion

[@kayque07]

não é proibido esconder a bolinha do adversário ? in table tennis is not wrong keep the ball ?

[@trazck]

Essa regra é mais recente que os videos mostrados.

[@samme79]

Before you can hide the way you serve.. Now they changed it so that you cant

[@l.s5806]

Jan Ove Waldner was known as the trickster.

[@KA-eu9sy]

Mozart was the Waldner of music. : )

[@MrKenRen]

Why didnt the others just do the same instead of QQ and make rules changed ?

[@GuiMXC]

Hoje em dia sim, a regra mudou em 2000 eu acho

[@vintagemxer9165]

When they changed the rule it killed the game. 3:00 mark is my favorite.

[@TTTTCJGKS]

It really did. The 40mm ball change was the only one I could have gotten behind as it slowed down the game a bit and allowed for longer rallies. But the point system and service rules should have been left alone.

[@rurban]

Nowadays only Par Gerell is allowed to do these serves.