Jann Wenner Says Women Can’t Articulate on a Philosophical Level!

Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Fires Jann Wenner! but Does That Solve Anything? #rockandrollhalloffame
Hey everyone!
As many of you know Jann Wenner , former editor of Rolling Stone Magazine & former Chairman of the Board for the Rock & Roll Gall of Fame, was fired from the nominating committee of The Rock & Roll of Fame!
Why? Well as usual, when Jann Wenner opens his mouth, nothing intelligent emerges! But this time ge REALLY has hung himself out to dray!
Tonight I tie all the pieces together to make some sort of sense of this whole debacle!
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[@stevenmartin4154]

Good. Fire the rest of the board while at it.

[@georgeedward1226]

For his punishment and as part of his political reeducation, Wenner must spend a week in a locked room listening to Yoko Ono records at full volume.

[@hondaphan4172]

LMAO!!

[@DCToonTime]

Wenner is the music industry equivalent of a “jock sniffer”. Someone who wasn’t an athlete, but would do anything just to hang out with them. His “friendship” with Bono, Jagger, etc., is highly suspect. They used him for whatever gain they could get when he was editor. Now he really has no juice so they have kicked him to the curb.

[@ltjjenkins]

He called Bono "B" Ho pukey

[@xar3244]

They also probably know what Wenner is really like and don't want any part of defending him.

[@william6223]

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame needs to change its name to Music Hall of Fame. Ever since they start selecting trap-rhythm based Hip Hop, and Pop artists into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. BTW, there is so much to Rock, including from Mexico and Argentina. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame became a popularity contest for the establishment interests, which is opposite what rock and roll is. Bono be damned.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Amen to what you say here William! Thanx! ❤❤❤

[@stevenmaginnis1965]

You can't induct hip-hop and rap performers and call it the Music Hall of Fame, because rap isn't music. If you call it the Music Hall of Fame, you might as well induct Felix Mendelssohn and Fred Waring while you're at it.

[@william6223]

@@stevenmaginnis1965 I like your suggestions for the Music Hall of Fame

[@c.7610]

How about "Popular Music Hall of Fame"?

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

​@@stevenmaginnis1965Eminem and Missy Elliot sampling rock songs isn't rock and roll enough. Is sampling Billy Squire in the case of Eminem really all it takes for you to recieve a label of a rocker?

[@michaelrochester48]

With him gone, hopefully the chances of foreigner, the Guess Who, Paul revere and the raiders, Jethro Tull, iron maiden getting into the rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame now increase because he was blocking all of them

[@MrKeychange]

The only reason they're not in is I'm convinced the people voting have never heard of them. 🤪

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Bare minimum, a single listen of The Guess Who's American Woman is something that committe should have to start in their music

[@MrKeychange]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral I couldn't agree more.

[@mpromislo]

Agree 100%! It is a crime that these bands aren't in the RRHOF.

[@EricSchultz-zs8hz]

I'm still mad about Wenner ordering a writer to do a negative review of Paul McCartney's "Ram."

[@Jh98w]

Yap! Same.

[@ronsmith9822]

A lot of people forget that Rolling Stone magazine was trashing classic rock bands back in the 70’s when the music was contemporary. The rock hall is a joke. We need a new organization that recognizes great artists and music.

[@dino_j]

To quote the philosopher Pete Townshend, “Meet the new boss…just the same as the old boss!” I wouldn’t expect the RRHOF to induct any of the artists they’ve slighted anytime soon. But maybe over time…

[@blackwonderBW]

These people simply want to gate-keep the music industry. Even though blacks revolutionized many genres of music, we are always relegated as footnotes. It's not about being articulate. It's about "I'm white and I say so" as usual. I've done videos about Michael and Prince on my own channel. Just these two alone have blown away most of the artists on that bogus Rolling Stone list.

[@errolmichaelphillips7763]

Write your own book.

[@blackwonderBW]

@@errolmichaelphillips7763 How about you get your own culture troll? Oh wait, you can't. You're white.

[@c.7610]

Mr. Wenner was one of the major architects behind the "Lennon was a genius, McCartney was a hack" way of thinking about the Beatles, which he pushed in Rolling Stone for decades. I don't have a lot of sympathy for him.

[@petermeter8221]

Fkcu the RnR hall of fame. When an organisation omits a band like Foreigner they’re not worth shite!

[@peterzang]

Marley. Prince. Tina Turner. Aretha. Ronnie Spector. Joni. Joan Jett. Dr Dre. Lamont Dozier. BB King. Ray Charles. Yes Janis and Grace. Jimi. PS. It’s not cancel culture when someone says something we’ll-considered and horribly egregious 😊

[@garylester8621]

Ha ha, they are eating their own. Music to my ears. I'm 76, and have been saying for decades that "The Rock and Roll Hall of SHAME and The Rolling Stone RAGazine, can kiss my ass"

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Now your talkin’ Gary! Wretched miscreants! ❤❤❤

[@JohannesYtterstrom]

I hate how false all the world is these days. The main issue is that everybody is pretending to care about things they do not care about. Put up false images of themselves to be included and then get tossed aside like dirt when that false image is broken. What if everyone just truly was themselves instead? And we could focus on the important issues of life and leave those who do not care doing whatever they want to do?

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Very well said Johannes! 👌❤❤

[@sunshinecoolwater9528]

I've waited for this day to happen for years. I knew he had to go, when he refused to have Bob Welch to be inducted along with Fleetwood Mac. He stated that he was not a fan of late 70s arena rockers.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

He has been a thorn for me to bear for decades sunshine! ❤❤❤

[@stevenmaginnis1965]

Most critics aren't fans of late 70s arena rockers. Some of the snarkier news personalities on cable TV aren't either. MSNBC's Stephanie Ruhle made fun of a Republican operative who took a Russian government spokeswoman to a Styx concert, as if liking Styx were an even worse crime than fraternizing with spokespeople for Putin. And when Paul Ryan bragged about having an iPod filled with classic hard rock artists, Sirius XM's Karen Hunter, who has appeared regularly on MSNBC, responded on Facebook with a put-down - "AC/DC (too easy to go there) to [Led] Zeppelin? Figures . . ."

[@richardarnold4271]

I didn't know that,I wondered because Bob Welch was a musical genius in my view.

[@michaelrochester48]

@@terrencesclassicrockcorner I was thinking of his solo work like Ebony eyes

[@glennweaver3014]

@@terrencesclassicrockcorner His work on "Mystery to Me" is excellent too.

[@drrick8839]

What wonderful news! Makes my day-week-month-year! Thanks for sharing my friend, DrRick

[@markkemp7608]

Hopefully these people in charge will have a better sense of who should be in the Hall. Certainly not holding my breath!

[@don66hotrod94]

In other words, the RRHOF is rotten to the core.

[@chetthebee1322]

Unfortunately, whoever steps into his role will be worse than him at running the R&R HoF.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Agreed Chet! ❤❤❤

[@peterzang]

“Rolling Stone slams Bruce Springsteen with four star review.” Onion headline.

[@ohsoedgy6888]

I think people need to know that there are 2 sides of the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame There’s the organization that votes on who should be inducted and have their names be all over the walls of the museum and of course to be honored in a induction ceremony every year And then there’s the 2nd side of the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame which is really just a museum to attract tourists that is no different than the Baseball Football Hall of Fame in Cooperstown or the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton There’s one part that shows a little plaque of all the inductees from what I recall and the rest of it is showcasing important things from the history of Rock n Roll and the genres that inspired Rock n Roll

[@DavidSanchez-bo3uv]

He even said he let artists edit their own articles. Boy, that tells you what kind of ‘ journalist’ he is.

[@peterzang]

Right? And btw Sticky Fingers was a really good bio. Warts and all. Sorry it was critical Jann. But also praised you for the good stuff you did. His articulating of his ideas was horrifying. And bullshit.

[@stephenosullivan9016]

Maybe Foreigner will finally get the Hall of Fame nomination they deserve!! If he can can treat Paul McCartney like trash, just think of what he can do to lesser artist!

[@marshman96]

Seeing him squirm in the media is awesome

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Watch him dangle folks! ❤❤❤

[@billhawkins1236]

As you said Michael, his firing brought a large smile to my face. Alas, do I think it will change the ignoramuses that vote people that don't belong in or should still be in the queue into the Rock and Roll Hall of fame? Absolutely not! But it's a big step in the right direction!

[@davej.meister5421]

The other Rolling Stone bigwig Dave Marsh is another peckerhead that has to go. He has done a lot of damage to the Rock And Roll HOF's credibility. Whose brilliant idea was it to let shock jock Howard Stern induct Bon Jovi into the Rock Hall, when someone more relevant could have inducted them? I understand John Travolta inducted the Bee Gees, but he starred in one of the biggest films of the 70s whose soundtrack predominately featured the Brothers Gibb.

[@RobScuremusic]

It’s about time somebody did something about Jann Wenner. However, it’s too late to fix the Hall of Fame.

[@SH-fm5eu]

I would like to see Joni Mitchell, Carol King and Carol Kaye work Wenner over like that hobo in A Clockwork Orange!

[@carlwiddows6536]

And I've gotta admit, your rant brought a huge smile on my face.

[@grooveyerbouti]

I must admit one of my first thoughts was "Noland's gonna love this". I don't know if I have just ignored his existence until now or if he isn't as well known in UK,I had heard name. I'm floored that he could utter such drivel Little Richard not erudite? I think it's a little unfair to blast those in the book I doubt they consider themselves philosophers. I love the musicians I love but I don't rely on them for philosophy or ideology political or otherwise in most cases I disagree. I would imagine thier knowledge of music history is good,Weiner presumably thinks it started with Elvis,scary that he has helped shape the narrative.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Well said Groove! He’s been a thorn in my side for decades! ❤❤❤

[@rhondawilkins_]

I'm 57 years young and waiting on this day for over 40 years! This is the absolute GREATEST THING to happen to the RRHOF. Hopefully, our lists of some Rock N Roll "GREATS" will finally be nominated and get their rightfully honored status! I can't list all 100 bands here but please add these bands to the RRHOF: FOREIGNER (Original Band members) TOTO ( Original Band members) Dan Fogelberg John Denver Kansas Foghat Boston Bad Company Jethro Tull Ted Nugent Def Leppard Dire Straits Grand FUNK RAILROAD (Connie Hamzy, Sweet Sweet Connie, famous GROUPIE and whom is in GFR song was my neighbor in Little Rock, Arkansas. She passed away August 21,2021. STYX Meat Loaf Asia Jim Croce Emerson Lake & Palmer Sammy Hagar Black Oak Arkansas Blue Oyster CULT Humble Pie The Guess Who J Geil's Band Gordon Lightfoot Eddie Money Alan Parson's Thin Lizzy Uriah Heep The Monkee's Poco Ambrosia 38 Special KC & The Sunshine Band Atlanta Rhythmn Section The B-52's The Tubes Nitty Gritty Dirt Band Charlie Daniel's Band Dokken Motley Crue Blood Sweat & Tears The Marshall Tucker Band Warren Zevon Steppenwolf Three Dog Night The Carpenters America Andy Gibb The Black Crowes Blood Sweat & Tears The Scorpions George Thorogood Edgar Winter Glen Campbell REO SPEEDWAGON Tom Jones Steppenwolf Mott The Hoople Little Feat Bryan Adam's Bachman Turner Overdrive Nils Lofgren The Eurythmics Chubby Checker John Farnham Rory Gallagher FREE Tommy James& The Shondells Kenny Loggins/Jim Messina Dave Matthew's Band Johnny Rivers Steve Vai Suzi Quatro Herman's Hermits The Runaway's Triumph Motorhead Megadeath Harry Chapin Joe Satriani Tool Sting Phil Collins Queensryche Smashing Pumpkins Gary Moore The Jordonaires Iron Maiden Paul Rodgers Burton Cummings Billy Idol Eric Carmen David Cassidy Shaun Cassidy 👇👇👇👇🤜🤜 And.....so many more! I also think " Journey's" Original Band MANAGER "Walter Herbie Herbert" should also be inducted. Best day for Rock N Roll is firing Jann Wenner ! O, Happy Day!

[@don66hotrod94]

Thanks for including Black Oak Arkansas, the best live act ever.

[@heinebohmann1566]

Dire straits did get in,only Mark knopfler who IS Dire straits didn't show up at the ceremony.He knew that show was a fake.

[@mpromislo]

There are SO many deserving bands/artists who have been denied entry to the RRHOF, but I cannot support some of the people on your list because they are not rock artists (for example, John Denver). David Cassidy? Really? lol

[@don66hotrod94]

How about Billy Effing Joel? LOL @@mpromislo

[@don66hotrod94]

I knew that. @@terrencesclassicrockcorner

[@DW_Harwich]

This probably won’t have much impact on the way the Hall operates, but it’s nice to see Wenner get what he deserves (even though it’s still only a fraction of what he truly deserves).

[@LuchaLibertaria]

You hit the nail on the head I don't think for a second that RRHoF will change for the better; there are hundreds of Jann Wenners in that institution. His son Gus is Rolling Stone's chief executive for a start .

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Great additional info Luca! Thanx! ❤❤❤

[@MrKeychange]

There is no Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame

[@drmusic3641]

Oh Happy day! Perhaps the hall can now right what was wronged by him.

[@thruthefirepubl]

Jann doesn't know what lyrics mean unless he asks the lyricist. Too often I have been dismissive as well and then have to remember to "check myself." For instance, just today I found out that Ode To Billie Joe written and performed by the captivating singer-songwriter Bobbie Gentry was about unconcious cruelty. I NEVER would have thought that in a million years.

[@orange8167]

Well hooray! It's about time!

[@KenthSandstrom]

Hi, I´m a Swedish Beatles fan, always enjoying your KZbin movies.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Nice to hear from you Kenth! Welcome to the Tribe!❤❤❤

[@davidlaw689]

Couldn't have happened to a ' nicer ' guy ! An odious and petty man.

[@shaughnziech2193]

Wenner aka Boy Wonder sarcastically named by Hunter Thompson is a maggot

[@glennredavid5741]

I was happy to see him fired but I agree with you nothing is going to change. These are his people and they'll continue his vision.

[@markgardner1020]

Nice one, Michael

[@lonewolfvule4682]

Good thing that you are 'eloquent' enough to represent us rock fans on youtube. Keep on rockin'!

[@jeffreyflint6286]

It has finally happened! Ive been waiting far to long for it. Hopefully things will change at the rrhof. So many great bands and artists have been passed over for waaaaay to long. Great, great commentary Michael!

[@mariocirillo7910]

Well said!

[@joeshine9869]

Take a bow Michael, you had the measure of him long before many others.

[@amexjam55]

All I say is good riddance to Jann Wenner.

[@wildbill7081]

Both the Rolling Stone Rag and the Rock N Roll Hall of Shame together are a JOKE

[@Rickpa]

The Rotten Role Hall of Shame has a long road to become anything legitimate to me. Fortunately for them, my opinion doesn't count.

[@darthcheney7447]

Jagger a philosopher? Pffft. Keith wrote most of the lyrics.

[@aliceduncan8057]

Glad he's gone, Rock n Roll hall of fame is a joke.

[@petervalenzon867]

I can't believe someone could purposely say something as stupid as he did!

[@johncook8720]

After the initial knee-jerk reaction of getting Jaan out of there, youre right the reality sinks in-- its like cutting off the head of the hydra, that particular head is gone, but who will step up n fill the void? - cronies who Jaan himself put in place...ugh. shows how deep the cesspool is. His view n comments re blacks and women is an insult! Joni Mitchell for one, shed be a treasure trove of thoughts, opinions n reflections!! But we the ppl have a voice, n its up to us to keep beating the drum re how ridiculous this institution is!! Rock on!!

[@AlexandraElorza]

Michael, I couldn’t agree more with you. Unfortunately, many people are only your friends in good times. Therefore, as you well know, they are not your friends. I am glad that Wenner was fired. Anyway, I haven’t been happy with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for many years. A lot of very talented bands and artists have been ignored. I won’t even comment on the absurdity of inducting non rock and roll artists.

[@royceinthehouse842]

Hopefully, we can now get the backlog of long deserving artists into the RRHOF. This was long overdue!

[@robbiecarlisle2789]

I’m glad to see him in a bind but I still don’t like cancel culture, no matter the reason.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

Me neither Robbie! ❤❤❤

[@ndogg20]

Jann Wenner was the personification of cancel culture and got himself cancelled.

[@MrKeychange]

Cancel culture is bad, but sometimes the cancel is justified. We have free speech in this country but not speech without accountability. The reason I don't like cancel culture is because it's being weaponized, not because it's always the wrong thing to do.

[@adamfindlay7091]

😮😊😴☮️ If not for African gospel, blues, rhythm abd blues and Jazz not to mention soul and funk brought to America there would be NOooooooo Rocknfraud Hollow Fame.😢 Funny, Wennersbeen @ plentyRnR inductions, but Never heard Dylan, Macca or Harrison or Jagger mention how important Little Richard was to THEM. ?!

[@ShogunZIlla]

Amen

[@LarryGonzalez00]

Right on Michael. I was shocked when I heard this. He always seemed like he knew better. Then again, he hid his sexuality for years. Maybe he came from an era with certain beliefs and was never able to shake them. I feel sorry for him. If he filled a book with interviews of Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Curtis Mayfield, Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Tina Turner, Aretha Franklin, Linda Ronstadt, Joni Mitchell, Stevie Nicks and Prince I'd be first in line to buy it.🎵😃

[@scottedwards33]

It will be business as usual until this inevitably blows over and he’s back in some form. Meet the new boss…

[@jordielias]

i was waiting for this video, ha

[@sms9106]

We need to clean house and ON LY put in Rock and Roll people in the Rock and Roll HOF. Tired of the woke include everybody crap. Rock is Rock - color or gender matters NOT but the MUSIC does

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

If they want to include more women and black artists, conduct more research and find the ones considered actual rockers. dont just randomly select!

[@floundergearjam]

Jann Wenner canceled himself. He, above all people, knows he has to watch what he says in these cancel-culture times. This is a prime example of a group of elites eating one of their own. It doesn't bother me a whit that he's in cancel-purgatory. The real telling problem still remains. A bunch of bad actors has highjacked the RRHOF and the nominating committee. When an act like Missy Elliott (No disrespect here) is inducted and a group like ELP with three of perhaps the biggest virtuosos in Rock history are not even considered? When a heavy metal pioneer such as Iron Maiden which has fans all over the globe that sells out stadiums quicker than our President falls down a set of stairs? When an act like Boston who's played on the radio more than anyone else is still not considered? It may be time to cut the emotional ties with the RRHOF. These bad actors are feeding off of our anger that these rock acts of which I named but a few are being ignored for more politically acceptable ones. Jann Wenner made this mess, he needs to own it. We have a saying in the south, "Don't sh*t where you eat." - Michael, sorry for stating this so forcefully but this topic hits a raw nerve with me. Also, proud to be a member of the tribe. Rock on. OK, bedtime.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

No apologies necessary Gearjam, and well said! ❤❤❤

[@LuchaLibertaria]

"A group of elites eating one of their own" - exactly! Funny thing is these guys were accusing bands like AC/DC of 'sexism' for writing goofy party rock lyrics yet here they are showing their true sexist colours 😀

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

1. Emerson, Lake Snd Palmer not in? They need to correct this as Carl Palmer is the only current alive member left to take stage for the award 2. Iron Maiden was considered last year and they instead miss the induction in the end for Missy Elliot 3. If More Than A Feeling is anything, Boston can be considered more than eligible because radios continue to play that song

[@jferkfjkj]

Now Jethro Tull might have a shot at getting inducted.

[@markkemp7608]

The Rolling Stone Magazine sucks and has sucked for decades. Kind of like SNL but worse, much worse.

[@OriginalGrasshopper]

Lots of people say it should just be called the “Music Hall of Fame” so that there’s no need to be picky over what’s “rock” and what’s not. BUT even if it were just the Music Hall of Fame they STILL induct people that aren’t even that influential in their genre! Missy Elliot (nothing against her personally) is a good example. She’s certainly not rock, but even in her actual genre (rap/pop) she was never THAT influential to be inducted into a Hall of Fame. En Vogue and TLC were far more influential black female singers in the 90’s than Missy Elliot ever was. So regardless of what they call this place it will still continue to enshrine folks who make us scratch our heads. 🤷‍♂️

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

A sample of Beastie Boys is not rock and roll enough Missy Elliot!

[@MsBenlane]

they fired him because it might affect the money. which last i read was having low ticket sales for the next ceremony

[@lionheartroar3104]

Rock and Roll Hall Of Crock.

[@aaronknight9759]

You’re on fire with this one Michael!

[@markkemp7608]

His correct answer should have been something like, " I tried to interview my favorite artist the ones that I enjoy the most." For me my top 10 bands are male bands that I grew up with. I would also love to talk to a Carole King, Joni Mitchell, bass player Carol Kaye, Stevie Wonder, Joan Jett, and many others. Many of the artist I grew up with are now passing away, so sad.

[@MIB_63]

Your prayers finally came true, Michael 😎

[@BruceColon-BSides]

I was waiting on this video and you did not disappoint. I definitely rejoiced at the public humiliation of this twerp as well. Unfortunately as you mentioned, it probably won’t change much for the Hall of Shame, but at least Yawn’s credibility will forever be tainted by his latest foolishness.

[@ZRATAN69]

Now the big question, who can they find to replace HIM..do they move someone up from the board or get a fresh face.somone NEW?

[@chrisstory563]

I knew this video would pop up after reading about the whole thing a few days ago. no surprise. however, I don't believe much will change. I think change in the hall of fame will only be small and barely noticeable

[@TheKitchenerLeslie]

I commented this to you yesterday... no shout out? I'm hurt.

[@j.kliban9156]

I don't like Jann Wenner. You've articulated it so well, MN, I don't need to elaborate. What I despise way more is " cancel culture". In regard to his 1st Amendment rights, he wrote a book he wanted to write. Nobody has to read it or buy it.

[@stocksgoupward5922]

Jann Wenner deserves this cause he is so woke and is banning bands like Jethro Tull Bad Company and Foreigner from being in Rock HOF. I am half kidding but think about these 3 bands and explain HOW ARE THEY NOT IN THE HALL? Think about and Remember the Rush induction and how Alex Lifeson got them back to embarrass them on the blah blah blah speech. Rollingstone also put the Boston Marathon bomber on the cover.

[@227716689]

Hi Michael. Why should Bono, Bruce or Mick come to his defense? What Jann said cannot be defended. It's best to ignore the braying of a jackass. I hope he goes away and we don't hear from him again. PS. Like you I got some enjoyment from him being taken to task for his inane statements.

[@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine]

I actually meant that as a wry comment 2277! They shouldn’t come to his rescue, but they have all hung out jetting to here and there, and you don’t think they haven’t heard crap like this from his mouth before? The Hollywood crowd all scramble on one another, when the heat starts to get close! ❤❤❤

[@MrKeychange]

​@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLineThose artists are also all ass kissers for validation. They probably tolerated him because he put them on a pedestal. Jagger loves being a celebrity, Bruce wants to be propped up like Dylan and Bobo wants to be framed like he's Mother Teresa. 😂 He does that for them.

[@markorendas1423]

Iits a very nadly worded affair. I took it as these folks werent articulate or such about the subject of rock n roll. And stevie wonder although a master of his instruments is a massive talent of course but hes not a rock or rock n roll artist . Joni mitchell i wouldnt trust on philosophy or anything BECAUSE SHES NOT ROCK SHES FOLK.' and JANIS sure was talented but she didnt seem like the go to girl for answers. TO ME IT DIDNT SOUND RACIST. JUST DUMB. PERHAPS SLIGHTLT MYSOGYNISTIC. BARELY. HW HAS MET THESE FOLKS TOO . IS WENNER A ASS. YES A RACIST. ? I DARE NOT SAY BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW THIS MAN. AND HEY I BET IF TINA TURNER WERE STILL ALIVE AND DOINNG WELL I WONDER IF SHE FIT THE CRITERIA. BECAUSE IN EVERY INTERVIEW SHE WAS SPOT ON ... BUT YES IT MY SPECULATION. IN THIS WORLD JUST THE PERCEPTION OF BIENG RACIST OR USING A WRONG WORD. OR GOD FORBID. GUILT BY ASSOCIATION. AND ITD BE NICE IF ANY O THOSE OTYER GUYS CAME TO HIS DEFENCE BUT THAT TOO MAY BE TELLING. WHAT A ALL AROUND DISGUSTING MESS.

[@hurdygurdyguy1]

Pssst…did you know your caps lock was on…got pretty loud last half of your comment 😉

[@markorendas1423]

@hurdygurdyguy1 YEA.. irs a sordid thing kindsa... i used to type all caps all thw time .. i like large font n really just found out last few years its considered yelling. AS a musician i know its a form of dynamics too... its a semi work in order for mw to adhere to thw nerd standards o thw internet. I too am a nerd though. Semi stuck in my ways. Once i start zigingv thru me fast thoughts i twnd tov not GO BACK NORTH TO HIT HAPPY ARROW. I know its somewhat easier n selfis in that context. So ill try to make MORE OF a effort to appy DYNAMICS AND TACT. (THANKS FOR THW TACTFUL REMINDER ..!) 😀

[@stevenmaginnis1965]

Certain bands aren't just excluded the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because Wenner hates them. They're excluded because critics hate them too. If you want to know why Grand Funk Railroad aren't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, read Dave Marsh's comments on them in the second edition of the Rolling Stone Record Guide. (And if you want to know why Madonna IS in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, read J.D. Considine's comments on her in the third edition of the Rolling Stone Record Guide. 😡💩)

[@mpromislo]

So you're saying that critics like Dave Marsh should be the sole arbiter of who gets into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? In the 1983 version of the Rolling Stone Record Guide, Marsh savaged the Doors and wrote "Is this the most overrated group in rock history? Only a truly terminal case of arrested adolescence can hold out against such a judgment for very long." Definitely not the person I want selecting bands to enter the hall of fame!

[@stevenmaginnis1965]

@@mpromislo I'm not saying that rock critics SHOULD be the sole arbiter of who gets into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - I'm saying that, for the most part, they already are. Marsh was one of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's arbiters, and he famously vowed that Kiss would never get inducted so long as he had the power to stop them. He failed. Sometimes the system doesn't work the way Wenner, Marsh and others want it to! 😄

[@garyspring5981]

The rock and roll hall of bs a total sham of a awards stuff I still don't understand no guess who In the hall of fame that s just awful

[@mikakoskinen1684]

Now everybody knows who Jann Wenner is, even me. Now he is more famous all over the world. It was good ad.

[@christophersanders5007]

I tend to agree that women are not philosphicaly articulate. You mentioned Joni Mitchel she was the only one that came to mind for me too. Jone Jett...maybe. Black artist are philosphicaly articulate in more of a back handed way then an up front kind of way like Bono or Springsteen does. In other words black artist do not tend to wear their hearts on their sleeves like Bono does.

[@ltjjenkins]

I suppose the guy at one point knew what rock n roll was and then proceeded to destroy it. Sounds familiar in today's age.

[@davidevans3175]

All these awards shows and "institutions" are a way to make huge money by creating a TV show with mega-expensive talent without paying for it by giving them awards which (supposedly) benefit their careers and stroke their delicate egos. The Oscars, the Tonys, the Grammys, ALL of them. As soon as an award is considered meaningful to a career that award show will go on forever with almost no advertising, very little cost, making millions for the producers of the show.

[@left0verture]

Oh my. I knew this would really hit you hard, Michael. Please try not to let it drive you into depression… :-P This whole thing is just beyond annoying. RS and the RRHoF aren’t about rock & roll or even music anymore. They’re all about politics and the currently popular narratives and virtue signaling. A pox on both their houses. The woke eat their own and Wenner just became the next course. C’est la vie.

[@andrewmacdonald3667]

Joe Hagan’s bio on Wenner, ‘Sticky Fingers’, is a great read. What did you think of it Michael?

[@scotthovland7380]

Long long overdue

[@ADAMSIXTIES]

40 years too late.

[@mick40jb]

I dont believe Wenner had those kind of deep discussions when he was around Bono, Mick, and Keith. In addition, they dont need to speak up since Wenner got fired,

[@digger65uk]

Yippee! How do you sleep Jane Weener? 😈

[@aarond23]

The dragon has ate its own tail here. Absolutely ignorant arrogant thing to say, but those are the rules in HIS world these days, say the wrong thing and you are 'canceled'.

[@bgmchrisc]

I think asking where his 'friends' are is the wrong question. Friendship doesn't mean you defend someone when they expose themself as a bigot and misogynist. That's a cult, not a friendship. All this does is show that there are too many stupid people in positions of power in every facet of the world.

[@betseyr.9081]

Not to minimize any you mentioned but as long as ELP & Jethro Tull are not inducted I have no respect for anyone past or present on the committee or the Hall as an institution!!!

[@Modernaire]

Isn’t there a possibility that the rest of the board members knew about these sentiments, closely held beliefs, and never did anything about it? Ignored and looked the other way? Or even, dare I ask, share ... the same views? Now Prince’s performance at the RHoF now makes strange kind of sense to me. Perhaps Prince knew of these attitudes and had been racially marginalized as well. Certainly in 1985, Prince was sort of demonized after expressing support and admiration for Reagan after an interview in Rolling Stone. And most recently, through KZbin content, It’s coming to light, the adversity Prince faced, even in recording studios, which may be the reason why he even built his own recording studio AWAY from Los Angeles. I fully agree with you - where are these rock legends to disassociate themselves and clarify that they do not stand by their very close buddy. And again you have to wonder if they knew about these sexist and flat out racist sentiments and never did anything about. It never confronted or put him in line. And let’s go further-further back, to the actual Rolling Stone magazine. Did these attitudes these viewpoints these sentiments drive the magazine not just in the 70s for example but into the 80s 90s etc.??? Where they prevalent at MTV? At record labels, sure, we can't be that naive, but it's seems it may have been an actual SYSTEMIC where even recording studios, and staff members, shared these views. Right? It doesn't just stop at Wenner.

[@maelinjoli]

maybe Boston has a chance now to enter the ''thing'' hall of fame. probably not......

[@jameschavez6400]

the thumbnail picture look oksike oopswe forgot to pick up billy Joel

[@MsJoyce31202]

Well he can't either.

[@jameshunter7303]

I’m not a fan of all these diversity quotas, it just waters-down content in any field it’s applied. If it is good enough, it should be recognised, and the sex, race, or whatever should not even come into it

[@stevenbelow2502]

Yeah, Grace Slick is inarticulate…..Not! She’s an outstanding interview and probably wouldn’t give Wenner the time of day.

[@robintaylor485]

Lmao he sort of reminds me of that, Pat Robertson, that horrible man that Pat Robertson he would say the most outlandish statements & make the most craziest claims

[@LNERFlyingScotsman]

I was waiting to see what your reaction would be to Jann getting kicked out of the R&R HOF Committee considering how much you despise him.