Japan Airlines 787-8 economy review (SAN-NRT)

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So good to be flying Japan Airlines out of San Diego again! Even though I’m not flying business class this time, I found the economy class experience to be every bit as good as I’ve heard it was. Good food, comfortable seats, and an incredibly helpful and kind cabin crew. Pretty much perfect!
This is footage from flight number 65, nonstop service from San Diego (SAN) to Tokyo / Narita (NRT) in late February 2020. I had seat number 21G for this 10.5 hour flight, and the aircraft registration was JA838J.
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[@eli_man3811]

That’s like premium economy on U.S. airlines.

[@sanspotter]

And some aren’t even that good! 😮

[@jamesbambury]

This is what the 787 experience was meant to be a 8 across economy class with 18” seat bases in a 2-4-2 configuration . If you see one that is 9 across in a 3-3-3 the the carrier squeezed in an extra seat at the expense of your comfort. Thank you JAL for doing it right.

[@sergiolaurencio7534]

Yep, airlines mess it again. But not Japan, basically the true Dreamliner experience.

[@NaenaeGaming]

Technically 18.9, so basically 19, which is even better than the average of 18.1 on the A380!

[@mikeydude750]

Flew this route last year! Very convenient that you can avoid having to transfer at LAX or SFO

[@sanspotter]

Agreed - makes the trip to NRT and beyond so much faster!

[@bryanswain8720]

Thanks for another great review! JALs economy has been my favorite long haul economy to date. I flew the NRT-DFW route in November and was extremely impressed with their service, food and seating. I hope to fly with JAL again soon!

[@jayd1426]

Now I know what to expect if I ever fly JAL economy on the 787. Thanks my friend!!! Fantastic content

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Jay! It is a fantastic product!

[@laurenkolligs978]

Pro-tip: Bring bowl to face, and ‘scoop’ rice to the mouth. Re: chopsticks. ☺️

[@HensonsChannelOfStuff]

Thank you for doing this review! I have looked for a 787-8 economy review that is not in the older tan seats (because I am flying on it soon) so I was really excited to see that you reviewed not only the seat I will be on, but the exact route!

[@liamm.1473]

Cant get enough of these Videos! They are just so much Fun to watch! As always, a Great and comprehensive review of the Airport, Plane, Seats, Food and Service! I also love that you even put some humorous jokes every now and then! Love your Vids Scott, they are absolutely fantastic, don't stop with what you're doing, because you do an amazing Job and I can't wait for your next Video!!!!

[@blasterman56]

I just found your video's and I really like the way you narrate. You keep it simple but very pleasant to listen to. Thanks for taking your time to post these.

[@Xm3rmaid]

Wow this made me happy! I’m planning our Japan trip and I live in San Diego! Thank you for posting this!!

[@waningbuddha2097]

Love your video style, and also the fact that you shout-out one of your friends in every single video! Keep up the great content 👍

[@canusdominici]

Japan Airlines is my new favourite from Australia to Europe because of the service, hard product and price, especially in premium economy. Great summary, thanks.

[@peterhughes7099]

As usual Scott, you nailed it. A smooth informative video. Now as the health crisis has hit the UK, I'll now have more time to watch more of your videos 😊

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Peter! Hope you’re staying safe over there - it’s not looking good at the moment. 😕

[@afras9433]

The thumbnail is amazing

[@sanspotter]

Thanks! Feeling hungry now? 😆

[@ChaseShep]

I love watching your videos Scott. You are my go to guy for trip reports. I love how you record and describe everything throughout the flight. I loved the Hawaiian and the Starlux videos the most. Can't wait to see more vids.

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Kit! Glad you’re enjoying my content - there’s lots more to come!

[@ChaseShep]

SANspotter Cool. I am so happy to hear that.

[@jaydenc7167]

That thumbnail is so good! 👍🏻👍🏻😀😀

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Jayden!

[@SeanMidlandstransporthub]

Great as always Scott! Stay Safe!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Sean! You too!

[@DeltaBravoTango]

I just can't express enough how sensational your introduction looks. Huge like from me again. Good video!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks so much Delta! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@henscloud]

Lovely video as always, loving the shoes as well 😊nice to see some decent weather at SAN for once 😂😂

[@sanspotter]

I know, right?! Everyone who’s watched my videos departing SAN lately probably think this is the rainiest place on earth. 😂 Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@craigwillis3372]

The new shoes are outstanding !! Great review as always Scott....a most excellent flight with JAL. Glad you are home safe and sound. Here in Australia if you have been overseas and arrived back its an automatic 14 days of home isolation and we have been advised to avoid ALL overseas travel. Qantas and Virgin are grounding planes and changing routes as I write. Virgin Australia are grounding all international flights shortly and Qantas to London are now going via Perth twice a day.It will be an interesting few months and I have an awful feeling many carriers will go the wall unless the Government helps them out. Anyway you had a comfortable flight ...in the new shoes and using chopsticks !! Thanks again !!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Craig! It’s amazing what’s happening right now in the airline industry isn’t it? Never in a million years would I have ever expected this. So sad! Especially since I’ve got new travel shoes now and I can’t go anywhere. 😩😅

[@afro_5345]

very sleek design of the cabin!

[@rileyw3660]

Glad to see a review of this flight! I remember when JAL first started SAN and it was crazy to see a smaller airport get TPAC flights! Hope my home airport (AUS) follows suit

[@jatterhog]

with all the gentrification going on there I wouldn’t be surprised

[@rileyw3660]

@@jatterhog nothing to do with gentrification lol, I don't see how that would influence a JAL flight

[@jatterhog]

@@rileyw3660 a lot big companies moving there making it unsustainable for the poor parts of the local population. The company execs can fly direct and pay a premium -> demand for a direct flight maybe 3x weekly

[@mikegoldbey6186]

Great review as always. Stay safe over there on the other side of the pond.

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Mike - you too!

[@FlyersAviation]

Fantastic Review Scott! Once again you have shown why you are my number 1 trip report channel but right now I highly suggest you fly once the coronavirus slows down lol

[@sambecker23]

LOVE the shoes dude! Mine are neon orange but red is pretty great too!

[@ChrisFrameOfficial]

Always enjoy your videos!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Chris! 👍🏻

[@dpacyau]

If I'm not mistaken JAL is the last airline to still have 8 abreast economy in their 787-8s. All 787s were originally supposed to do 8 abreast in Economy to give a superior product to the A330 which it was competing with. Unfortunately all the other airlines decided to squish in 9 abreast. Just like how the original 777s were 9 abreast in economy and now it's hard to find one that's not 10.

[@sergiolaurencio7534]

Yep, airlines always mess it, but not Japan airlines

[@NaenaeGaming]

It seems to be a trend with Boeing aircraft, one which has plagued many of their models flying today. The 737 was originally a 5 abreast aircraft. 6 abreast quickly became the standard. The 747 was originally a 9 abreast aircraft, with a slightly unusual by today’s standards 3-4-2 arrangement. That very quickly became 3-4-3. The 777? Just like the 747, 9 abreast became 10. As for the 787, that’s covered by this video. The only aircraft to escape the trend is the 767, as the 8 abreast high density option was simply too cramped to ever catch on, being even tighter than already rare 9 abreast on the A300’s extended family or 10 abreast on the A350 (except for you PAL, although it was very predictable from one of the few full service carriers to fly 9 abreast A330s). As for the A380, nobody needs that many seats to warrant 11 abreast 😂

[@AdrianFernandez-lj9sy]

Excellent video Scott. Greetings from Montevideo, Uruguay.

[@ralphyhk]

Great video Scott!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks!🤟🏻😁

[@MarcBasilla]

Luv the new shoes. Stay safe!

[@anitascarr7982]

Great video. Had a chuckle when the ice cream was was hard as a rock!! One day, your loo reviews will be epic...you just need something exciting to happen! Lol

[@sanspotter]

Maybe...ice cream...IN the bathroom? 🤭😄 Glad you enjoyed it Anita!

[@simondavey7787]

During this enforced grounding, I shall binge watch your videos. Thank you for great content. Stay safe; you're in my prayers. Much love to you from the UK. SanSpotter for Prime Minister!

[@sanspotter]

Be very careful what you wish for. I’d be a lousy Prime Minister! 😆😄 Thanks for the support though - and you stay safe as well!

[@randolphamos4627]

I always fly JAL from San Diego to Manila. I love this airline!

[@raphaelmiguelbalon9226]

Same.

[@avgjoeavglife]

I feel like JAL is underrated, looks like you had a good trip before the Virus hit, at least we have KZbin to keep us entertained.

[@hawk4174]

I feel ya buddy on the chop stick comment inserted in the video. 😂😂

[@sanspotter]

Glad I’m not alone. 😂

[@ijiwarusensei89]

We always try to fly JAL or ANA to Japan. It's worth the few dollars more. Great service, good food, decent seats.

[@Freddy18077]

Cool trip report!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Alfredo!

[@Violet-cr4cj]

Thank you SANspotter for the very useful review. Do you remember if your seat recline at all ? Also, since JAL only departs in the morning from San Diego, did the dimmable windows make the cabin dark enough for people to rest during the long flight? Thanks for your help.

[@sanspotter]

You’re very welcome! Seat recline was just about the same as any other airline - but the generous legroom made a big difference. Also, the cabin got really dark with the dimmable windows. Maybe not as dark as any other aircraft with normal window shades, but plenty dark for sleeping.

[@cyrusluo1983]

great JAL product. the best international economic flight seating 2-4-2 . great video.

[@MileHigh_Aviation]

Awesome video once again

[@sanspotter]

Thanks MileHigh!

[@MileHigh_Aviation]

SANspotter np! I go to San Diego in may!

[@battlehawk77]

Those are some snazzy shoes. :) Great video, as always. :) And props for watching some Top Gear. :)

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Gavin! Yeah - the original Top Gear is my favorite show of all time. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@battlehawk77]

@@sanspotter I'm right there with you on TG. Love going back and watching those old episodes. By the way, where did you get those shoes?

[@duomusicoffical]

Nice great video Spotter, how did you get a flight

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Adrian! It was easy several weeks ago - empty flights everywhere...

[@Dodgerfan88_]

I can’t wait to go on this type of plane when I got to Tokyo on Jal In a few months!

[@Railviation]

Awesome footage! I would love to plane spot at Narita someday! You should get a flight on that ANA Airlines 767 next time, and the Delta A330-300 they are sending right now in San!

[@sanspotter]

Narita is amazing! When things get better you should definitely go and check it out. And...I was actually booked on the DL A330 out of SAN next week but I had to cancel. 😕 It just isn’t safe to fly right now.

[@Railviation]

@@sanspotter man that sucks they are only going to be here until April 2nd.. But hey I'll try to book on a flight on Jal soon!

[@spinalcrackerbox]

@@sanspotter I feel Haneda is better in almost every way, except walking distance from some of the gates to immigration. Have a flight booked to FUK via TPE. I'm guessing it might not happen.

[@Redpantslol]

I'm supposed to be in Japan for my birthday right now... and even though I've watched this video already, it got recommended to me again. Oh, the feels... Can't wait to look back at all this and laugh! (Also, love the then-new shoes.) Maybe you've covered this before, but how do you compare ANA and JAL? I've flown ANA business and first class a few times (all on points/miles), but never flown JAL. Love ANA but is it worth giving JAL a run?

[@p0tat0es_nation64]

Is there any ac outlet on the seat ?

[@brendo7289]

I was lucky enough to fly to Japan in December 26th 2019 in Premium Economy classs and by memory, it looked like the Business class on the Virgin flight I took a few months ago from Canberra to Gold Coast.

[@levonalyanakian1831]

I love San Diego airport. I usually pay the extra 300$ to fly out of their or John Wayne versus LAX which sucks. Nice video 👍🏻

[@sanspotter]

Thanks! Of course I’m biased but SAN is my favorite too. 😄

[@erickdelko9523]

10:27 to 10:31 needs to be a gif ASAP!

[@sanspotter]

😶😅

[@shantanukarlekar9522]

Hi, would love to see you review KLM 787 Dreamliner either Business Class or economy comfort !! thanks😊

[@SabraKay]

I'm going to be flying Japan Airlines economy next month. I love the leg room - are there footrests? Thanks for your videos!

[@sanspotter]

There are no footrests, but the legroom more than makes up for it. Enjoy your trip!

[@rollingtroll]

In this time of 'making the best of it', these videos are definitely welcomed. Thanks Scott. Also; Jezzaaaaaa!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Stijn! It’ll be interesting to see if people are still interested in watching airline reviews right now. 😬😬 This is a weird (and difficult) time to be making videos like this!

[@rollingtroll]

@@sanspotter Yup, my car reviewer friends seem to be doing a lot better for themselves... But hey, you can't predict everything. So far you have proven to excel at this kind of stuff, and people will keep following you, waiting for this to be over.

[@shanegermany5803]

Always wanted to try JAL and this review just further's that belief that they are a very good airline, your review scott was welcome distraction from all the god dam COVID 19 stuff were bombarded right now. surprised you didn't stretch out with all that empty space beside you. oh love the shoes, await the review.

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Shane! Yeah, I was hoping to stretch out a bit, but the person sitting in the aisle seat on the other side beat me too it. Oh well. Glad to be a nice distraction for you! 😁

[@shanegermany5803]

@@sanspotter your style is so refreshing and a welcome change from fellow av geeks. when intl flights are all back up and running, how about flying china airlines from Ontario, CA to Taipei, Taiwan. One other av geek has done it in Business, but bet it would be nice ride in Economy.

[@0aks148]

Thanks for this content I am now only flying JAL to Philippines.

[@johns4651]

I was supposed to go for a long trip to Japan. Also booked West Coast USA in June (including San Diego). Not sure if either trip is going to happen anytime soon.

[@sanspotter]

It’s been a bummer canceling my own trips recently so I know exactly how you feel. 😕 Let’s just hope things get better soon! 🙏🏻

[@GenkisTravels]

*sigh* I was scheduled to go to Haneda in May, it isn't happening now. :( At least I can watch your vids :)

[@sanspotter]

I’m not traveling anytime soon either, so...we can all stay home together. 😆

[@peterk814]

Why not?

[@nikhilbabbar3311]

peterk814 Coronavirus. It’s very dangerous to travel rn,

[@peterk814]

Nikhil Babbar it’s worth the risk. Just go

[@nikhilbabbar3311]

peterk814 no it’s not.

[@AlexWard94]

Hi Scott, always eager to watch your videos and glad to hear you’re keeping safe! Please can you tell us the first backing track in this video, I’m hooked?!

[@AlexWard94]

My bad, just seen the link in the description! Will have to try and dig that one out, it’s my jam!

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Alex! Yeah, that track was “Not Ready” (instrumental version) by R.A.D. It’s a good one, I agree!

[@AlexWard94]

SANspotter Thank you! Very much looking to seeing you back in the skies soon.

[@westcheap]

that moment when the backpack touched the seat 😂

[@sanspotter]

💥😆

[@FitriShukri]

an entertaining flight review

[@jesset4437]

Wow!!! I would opt to fly out of San Diego for a trip to Asia if needed be. I am living here in Vancouver, B.C. and the load is always cramped

[@erinya2758]

cannot believe actually somebody sat down and count the number of peas to put in the meal at 10:46

[@sanspotter]

Someone has to do it! 😆

[@an3war5]

Great video there of JAL..In my honest opinion,more airlines should adapt an 8 abreast compared to a 9 abreast configuration on the 787 Dreamliner👍🏼

[@sergiolaurencio7534]

The 787 was supposed to be adapt on the way, sadly, airlines fail again. More overall, they are falling to put the dreamliner like is supposed to be

[@aviationtime3202]

What video editor do you use?

[@sanspotter]

Premiere Pro 👍🏻

[@nicolig]

What I don't understand is how you only have 31K subscribers...when your flight reviews are the simply the best on KZbin. Really! Other channels that only have boring subtitles ant zero story telling can't event compare! EDIT: what. revelation: SAN in your channel name is for San Diego's Airport code...after months of wondering it took this video's title to realise that haha. Good job!

[@sanspotter]

Haha, yeah, for some reason or another not many know I’m based in San Diego. I guess I need to show my home more! 😆 Anyway, thanks for the kind words Gabriel! I really appreciate it! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@NarutoHarryPotter]

Love the video, but how exactly does this VPN finds lower prices in places like Malaysia? I connected and see no difference in price.

[@Danny_ll]

My trick to economy is to book the second to last row, aisle seat. For whatever reason those back rows are often half empty. Actually for over half my trips to Southeast Asia (SFO>BKK) this has been the case.

[@aaronnym15]

Scott. Thank you. I mean seriously. Thank you! Just thank you. Now on to the video.

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Aaron. Hope you’re enjoying the videos! 👀🍿

[@wbokhari8860]

12:26 Airline and Travel content is actually on the top of my mind lol. I'm already waiting for my next trip ;)

[@sanspotter]

Well that’s good to know! I’ve got 4 more videos to edit and upload...and after that I don’t know what’s going to happen. 😬😅

[@wbokhari8860]

@@sanspotter The end of the world 😶

[@nikhilbabbar3311]

Fire vid 🔥🔥🔥

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Nikhil! 🔥

[@Rattman127]

Scott has the San Diego route been officially upgraded to sky suites for all routes? Planning my honeymoon and I was trying specifically to avoid the old shell seats. If it is upgraded then I won't bother routing through LAX of SFO to get the Apex suites.

[@sanspotter]

Yeah as far as I know it’s all Sky Suites now. 👍🏻

[@eserarmani8803]

I enjoyed just wish you could show us your arrival narita airport all the way you get out

[@ricktessmer9752]

I was due to fly LAX to NRT on JL 61 today. Everything had to be cancelled a month ago. I completely understand, but I was really looking forward to trying their premium economy.

[@sanspotter]

Bummer. 😕 Hopefully JAL will survive all this and you’ll have the chance to do it again at a later date!

[@brendanloughran8550]

Im gonna miss that plane for now take care JAL!!

[@richhughes2225]

Did they weigh your carry-ons?

[@Calebs_Aviation]

He Scott, Love the video can’t wait to try JAL 🇯🇵 but at 7:58 we’re you trying to spell fork acquired? As in a-c-q-u-i-r-e-d?? 😆

[@gaijinhito]

I'll never forgive SAN for getting rid of the commuter terminal. :D

[@malankaraorthodox71]

The meals look much better than what you'd find on even international business class on a US carrier. I've flown with JL in all cabins except PE and found their service excellent. My only complaint is they keep the cabin temperature a bit too warm.

[@sanspotter]

You’re right about that! I was tempted to strip down naked at one point. It was toasty in there! 🔥

[@Ahuntsicspotter]

I hope this route will be operated in july because of the olympic games.

[@gaijinhito]

"Oishii" followed by a shot of the bathroom.. hahahaha What was delicious about the toilet? :p

[@theresafennelly8580]

I think your new shoes jinxed you 🤣

[@adam__smith]

12:08 I suspect that the last patron on the list isn't Robert Smith from The Cure - he hates flying.

[@sanspotter]

Haha! I assure you it’s not the Robert smith you’re thinking of. I think. 😬😆

[@greatairline8693]

hello i am very waiting SAN spotter flight review. japan is my home country. it is nice !!

[@sanspotter]

Konnichiwa! It was nice flying to Japan again - it’s one of my favorite places in the world. 😊

[@stephen_l1474]

4:31 that’s a nice premium Economy 4:32 wait what?

[@clausstimpfig3803]

Hi Scott, well, in "former years" I would have agreed on excellent Food for eco/cl. Always loved JAL. But this is a new world now. Here in Southern Bavaria we are no longer allowed to leave our homes except for foodshopping, doctor etc. Plus since I am a "free" instructor I have no more income. I am not alone milllions of People overhere have to face the same Situation. Never thought that something that fate would throw me into such a Situation. Plus I have to take care of my 92 year old mother. She cannot walk anymore. Two years ago m< U.S. Father "flew west"... Fear is all around here in our Country I Always LOVED your Reports. Please , please protect yourself and stay healthy claus

[@clausstimpfig3803]

uups delete that something...

[@sanspotter]

So sorry to hear things have been so difficult Claus! Yes, this is an unprecedented situation world wide - such an unbelievable scenario. I’ve taken a very big hit financially as well, so it’s been a little hard to stay motivated with the regular video schedule. Oh well - all we can do is hope for the best so that we can put this mess behind us. Hang in there my friend!

[@johnoke1206]

I’m going to Europe this summer and flying back from Rome should be fun

[@sanspotter]

Rome is amazing in the summer! Hope things are better over there by then.

[@manuelvalencia9407]

Your next review should be Japan Airline's Zip Air.

[@elevat1on]

Kudos to JAL for that 2-3-2 config on the Dreamliner!

[@sanspotter]

It’s 2-4-2 actually - but very spacious so it feels great!

[@hamtairo]

I am one of those who scheduled to fly but cant make it due to current situation. I can't use chopsticks too but i remembered clearly that cutlery set came with fork and spoon as well as chopsticks by default. I think fork and spoon much more practical than chopsticks. I can see having rice during meal service is as asian as it can be. 😂 I think the Frozen ice-cream is common theme on onboard flight😂 By the way what is your height? I think jal economy seats is one of the best in the class. 👍 Keep up the good work. *Btw any possibility on flights review continuity from Malaysia back to home? Just odd seeing your starflyer flight and then it suddenly jump onto this?

[@sanspotter]

I’m 5’-10” - bit even really tall people would be comfortable in these seats imho. Anyway, I wanted to post the Starlux video first since there seemed to be more interest in it. I still have 4 more videos from this trip to edit and upload... 👍🏻👍🏻

[@hamtairo]

@@sanspotter i look forward for the rest of the upload. Stay safe brother 👍

[@kai-matthiasbast8612]

i havent seen anyone do a real review of Azur air 77W or 757 would love to see you do that 😎

[@patrickpick3091]

LOVE your shoe's. Always have. Gotta love JAL not pretentious not intrusive. Just calming like the citizens of japan. Take note Delta American and United.

[@tenga3tango]

Looks like 2 -4 -2 abreast seating in premium economy. Its very spacious

[@chefwolfbritteaglewolf-mcl5752]

Again. I really like the new shoes. I am very happy you are still healthy. believe me or not I have been worried about you Brother. Tried to do the Surfshark thing a few times. They will not accept Debit cards. Debit is CASH …..right?

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Wolf! I’m doing fine so far - just trying to stay away from everyone and not spreading my germs. Hope you’re being safe as well wherever you are!

[@kyleyang379]

there’s a spoon and he chose the fork for rice lmao

[@SteffenWang]

The worst part of these flights is how warm they get when you’re trying to sleep :/

[@AndrewTubbiolo]

Domestic? How about flying those crazy fly-over destinations served by Allegiant airlines? How many flight reviews are there for Mesa Gateway Az to South Bend Indiana? And hey! You'd be a train ride on he South Shore Line to Chicago.

[@hunterhewko5350]

Could you possibly do a Delta a220 First Class Review????

[@sanspotter]

I was hoping to, but with the entire self-isolation thing going on right now it’s not going to happen any time soon. Maybe once things get back to normal again!

[@christopherhennessey8991]

I love SAN.

[@garrusvakarian3473]

Those are some nice shoes but what happened to your tigers?

[@sanspotter]

Thanks Andrew! Retired unfortunately... 😩

[@klutz1907]

Wait, JAL has good Top Gear on their IFE? That's sweet af!

[@sanspotter]

Yes they do. And it was awesome. 😁

[@OK-jq7hc]

Can we take those headphones with us after landing??