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Japanese zoo

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@janerivera9816
@janerivera9816 4 ай бұрын
It's a shame that this beautiful gorilla troop who have gone through a tough several days have to put up with loud groups of people who are not showing any kind of respect. I know the zoo makes money off of them but it's too bad they couldn't shut down these few days and give Shabani and his family some peace and quiet. I am saying this from my heart. I whole heartedly love this troop and several others; D'jecco troop, Monotaro troop, Haoko troop, etc. Thanks to people like JZ, GL, and others that give us the best videos! I pray that Nene can feel better soon; this troop needs her. The way they smell her scent and seem scared by it; like they know something more than we know. I didn't mean to go on and on; but as you can see I love them as much as the rest of you.
@juanitasmith8946
@juanitasmith8946 4 ай бұрын
I am so glad Nene got some rest! Sending Nene lots of hugs!!!
@consuelopando9414
@consuelopando9414 4 ай бұрын
Descansar no están abusando Annis y los demás de ella debe ser aislada y con tratamiento medico se cayó huyendo de Annis el miércoles de esta semana y Sabanis protegiendola de esos gorilas furiosos que la ven débil y quieren acabar con ellsa esta muy mal de esa caída herida grande en su mano y el hombro abiertas no ve de su ojo por la caída se golpeó la cabeza y no puede abrir el ojo y tiene una herida muy grande arriba del ojo no puede caminar por la hinchazón de su pierna derecha quien sabe cuantas fracturas tiene en sus huesos viejos llenos de artritis se dio un golpe grande en su cabeza quizás tenga una contusión cerebral pobresita NADA HA HECHI EL ZOOLOGICO NI TAN SIQUIERA UNA EXPLICACION MEDICA DE SU CONDICION DEBE ESTAR AISLADA CON TRATAMIENTO MEDICO COMO SE HIZO CON SABANIS es vergonzoso inescrupuloso qué 50 años dando tanto $ al zoologico la abandonen de esta forma la situación de Nene tiene indignadas a las personas q seguimos estas familias DENUNCIEMOS LA SITUACION DE NENE EL QUE ESTE AHI EN JAPON PARA VER SI SE PUEDE HACER ALGO POR ELLA TODAVIA
@mariehartje6781
@mariehartje6781 4 ай бұрын
More prayers for our Nene ❤❤🙏🙏🙏
@babsysmith1630
@babsysmith1630 4 ай бұрын
I'm pleased to know that Nene was able to get some 'Private Time' in the Basement with Soft Bananas for her to eat..Shabani did really Well with his 'Security -Duty' stoping Annie from going to the basement..He's can be 'discerning' sometimes.😊
@Steve-qn8gn
@Steve-qn8gn 4 ай бұрын
@@babsysmith1630 shabani hasn’t done much to discipline Annie like he should be doing. He also bowled nene over when coming out of the basement yesterday. I think a lot of people are reading his behavior wrong
@bettyboop6283
@bettyboop6283 4 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me what is wrong with Nene? Her right eye is dropping.
@CogDisso
@CogDisso 4 ай бұрын
​@@Steve-qn8gn He bowled Nene over because he saw Kiyomasa running around making displays while he thought Shabani was in the basement and couldn't see him. He obviously cares about Nene being absent (because knowing where everyone is is part of his silverback "protect the troop" instinct), but standing up to Kiyomasa definitely seems to override any other concerns.
@Steve-qn8gn
@Steve-qn8gn 4 ай бұрын
@@bettyboop6283 she fell ~10ft from the ropes to the concrete floor trying to get away from Annie the other day. She landed on her head and side that was already compromised making her leg injury/condition worse.
@celestetheariesdorsey952
@celestetheariesdorsey952 4 ай бұрын
@@Steve-qn8gnoh wow 😮
@sputnik459
@sputnik459 4 ай бұрын
Thanks JZ for update😊. Love you NeNe😍
@karlitadawson651
@karlitadawson651 4 ай бұрын
Like most I wish Nene had private time to rest. The leg seems worse after that fall. Prayers
@dilekaltinger4371
@dilekaltinger4371 4 ай бұрын
Nene seni şimdiden çok özledim ,ne olur bizleri üzme 😢 Sensiz ailenin de eski neşesi yok ,bizim de 🙏😇
@pamcunningham9608
@pamcunningham9608 4 ай бұрын
Nene, this is my daily message to say I hope you feel better very soon, you lovely, crusty old lady! ❤❤❤❤❤
@ekunru21
@ekunru21 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot of your videos JZ !Your update about Nene`s condition it`s a good news!I wish old-lady Nene a quick recovery.
@qunticoqamiroquai1620
@qunticoqamiroquai1620 4 ай бұрын
It was very nice to see the zoo letting Nene eat in peace and have some quiet time to herself. She's much older than her family members, and when they bite her, she really can't bite back because she doesn't have front teeth anymore. I think the younger ones take advantage of that. It's amazing. Their personalities aren't much different from us.
@skallittor5478
@skallittor5478 4 ай бұрын
What you say is interesting How sad that last part, but very true. It is the history of humanity, the root of all discrimination
@ginadots
@ginadots 4 ай бұрын
Loved when AI hugged and patted Nene❤
@MP-jo1qs
@MP-jo1qs 4 ай бұрын
It's Nene's left hip that is the serious concernn. She can't even stand on it. Hope the zoo can do some xrays and treat her.
@bethanderson397
@bethanderson397 4 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the updates! Thank you!
@Stubbies2003
@Stubbies2003 4 ай бұрын
Nice to see Shabani a bit more on Nene's side. Even better to hear that Nene is eating just out of sight. Even if it isn't necessary but just Nene being clever to get more of what she wants than the standard breakfast I say good for her. She might be old but she is still clever.
@FlaviaBlanco-w5t
@FlaviaBlanco-w5t 4 ай бұрын
Nene I love you my beautiful Mama 🦍🌹♥️ get well soon darling ♥️🙏🥰🥰😘
@denisemorris1177
@denisemorris1177 4 ай бұрын
🤬!!! I love 💕 you Nene! You can heal better if left alone. I know some say it’s not a good idea but who cares! Some of us think it is! ❤❤
@irenekopec9892
@irenekopec9892 4 ай бұрын
JZ thank you so much for the update on nene. happy that the keeper contacts you to advise you on her nutrition but any information about her physical condition? am sure if and when you do you will let us know. thank you again JZ.
@sandraphillips1718
@sandraphillips1718 4 ай бұрын
Nene should stay in the basement and get some rest away from the other troop members.
@stellaferrell8763
@stellaferrell8763 4 ай бұрын
Get well soon beautiful Nene we all want you to get better soon❤
@babsysmith1630
@babsysmith1630 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the updates. J.Z.😊
@joylee6968
@joylee6968 4 ай бұрын
Yes thanks for the updates we are all concerned.
@owllover813
@owllover813 3 ай бұрын
Always concerned for each other❤❤❤❤
@pattywhitlock7941
@pattywhitlock7941 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the update on NeNe... I hope she get's better. Love her so much!!❤
@lisasenn86
@lisasenn86 4 ай бұрын
Poor Nene 😢 I’m so glad she is getting soft food in Basement . But still makes me sad she isn’t getting around well. I worry she will fall from the high places Or get stuck and not be able to get down . 😢. What or HOW would the keepers be able to get to her if anything happens. Silverback would come unglued if he’s around. He’s seems to know she’s not well. I love this family and am so happy you do videos of them. Much Love from 🇺🇸 USA. I wish I could come see them in person. Have Always wanted to visit Japan 🇯🇵. ❤
@siliza6124
@siliza6124 4 ай бұрын
I hadn't even noticed that there is a community tab on the channel 🙄. Thank you for the updates on Nene ❤, I will always look at the community.
@patriciaplan420
@patriciaplan420 4 ай бұрын
Shabani est très protecteur, ça fait plaisir ❤
@muriel7100
@muriel7100 4 ай бұрын
Grande dame néné qu ils prennent soin de vous ❤😢
@carlanngiles350
@carlanngiles350 4 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for UkUk! I wish they would examine her hips. Thank you so much for the update! 🙂
@trapTv3
@trapTv3 4 ай бұрын
This Is So Sad 2 See Nene Getting This Treatment, She Deserves 2 Spend Her Last Days In Peace, Let Her Have The Sub Room By Herself
@susan_707
@susan_707 4 ай бұрын
They don't seem to be going outside? Nene is in pain. They need to do more for her.
@jpresp7563
@jpresp7563 4 ай бұрын
Nene should just stay in the basement until she’s healthier and has healed from her injuries.
@SolaKnitez53
@SolaKnitez53 4 ай бұрын
Yes, is there a vet update on her injuries? Surely after that fall yesterday, she should have had vet care. Thx JZ for the vid..please relay info on our behalf!
@sandraphillips1718
@sandraphillips1718 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree because Annie is trying to attack her every chance she gets.😢
@denisemorris1177
@denisemorris1177 4 ай бұрын
Agree!!
@コロパピィ
@コロパピィ 4 ай бұрын
ネネから5年間も虐待されたアニー。 今も自分の子供達と差別している。 少しの恨みと虐待されない為の行動だと思う。  ここで自分のが強い事を示す事で虐待されなくなる。  アニーは他のゴリラには優しい。  今までのネネの行動がまねいた事だと思う。  もうネネの足は年とったからだと思う。前から痛がっていた。年とると皆そうなる 食べられるようになって、まだネネは長生きするよ!  ゴリラはどこまで生きられるのか一番をねらってほしい。
@joylee6968
@joylee6968 4 ай бұрын
@@コロパピィ ''She still discriminates against her own children.'' Not true.
@caroljanecka1396
@caroljanecka1396 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad Nene's diet is being supplemented, but there is definitely something wrong with her right foot or ankle. She is limping badly. Is anybody checking on that?
@lyndamac1058
@lyndamac1058 4 ай бұрын
OMG Nene can hardly move, her right side is effected. Having banana's and fruit in the basement is fine and she better be getting pain relief with it. So far I have only seen neglect from the zoo.
@rainshadowroad
@rainshadowroad 4 ай бұрын
This troop seem well looked after and dear Nene hope she can rest comfortably and get well. But i really do hate that room with such hard surfaces. Gorillas need soft areas to make nests to sleep. Run , play, forage for food with grass and trees around their enclosure. 🌳🌲🌿🍃🦍🦍💚
@lisab3706
@lisab3706 4 ай бұрын
Although that hard surface makes it easy to keep clean
@loureddish5783
@loureddish5783 4 ай бұрын
Glad Nene is being cared for☺️💕
@consuelopando9414
@consuelopando9414 4 ай бұрын
¿Quien atiende a Nene ? La encierran en el sótano un momento a darle plata.nos después la sueltan entre la tropa enardesida la ven débil ya inútil y quieren acabar con ella SABANIS LA HA CUIDADO MAS QUE EL ZOOLOGICO esta muy estrezado detrás de la tropa Annis principalmente como abusa de ella por querella comer el otro día cayó de una plataforma muy alta llena de heridas abiertas por todas partes su ojo izquierdo no lo puede abrir de tan hinchado su pierna derecha está tan inflamada de esa caída y después de esa gran caída Sabanis protegiendola corriendo para ahuyentar los otros le fío un empujon tan grande cayó tan aturdida estuvo mucho rato así me da tanta pena verla indefensa rodeada de toda esa tropa que quieren acabar con ella la ven indefensa tristemente es el reino animal PERO VERGONZOSAMENTE EL ZOOLOGICO NO HA HECHO NADA DEBIAN HACERLEPLACAS Y DARLE ATENCIÓN MEDICA fue reina ahora cenicienta POBRE NENE UNAMONOS EN PROTESTA VEAN TODOS LOS VIDEOS DE ESTA ¡SEMANA QUE TRISTEZA LOS DEFENSORES DE ESTAS MAJESTUOSAS CRIATURAS ESTAMOS MUY TRISTES
@lydiademan8690
@lydiademan8690 3 ай бұрын
Ach onze lieve nene. Ik ben ook van haar gaan houden. Ik dat je denk weer wat beter ben en let aub goed op haar ❤❤❤❤
@lm9991
@lm9991 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the information! Annie knows Nene is getting yummy food and extra attention from the keepers too. Annie has had to have that at times as well. Nene looks so sore from her fall, but she seems to be recuperating. 💛
@Steve-qn8gn
@Steve-qn8gn 4 ай бұрын
She fell two days ago and can barely walk and it looks like her orbital socket could be damaged. She isn’t recovering well.
@lm9991
@lm9991 4 ай бұрын
@@Steve-qn8gn Being old is like this - for people too. There are several age related crises where it looks bad and one recovers from until the one occurs that is finally the last. Hopefully, Nene will continue to recuperate. But, she is a very old gorilla. She had a bug and got weakened, so hopefully she will continue to recover, but you're correct, she looks very unwell.
@Steve-qn8gn
@Steve-qn8gn 4 ай бұрын
@@lm9991 if it was just like two days ago I would agree. But that fall definitely injured her badly and there was no mention of what the keepers are doing about that. Only food.
@lm9991
@lm9991 4 ай бұрын
@@Steve-qn8gn she is pretty ill. Agreed.
@bluefish5112
@bluefish5112 4 ай бұрын
It's a big relief to know that NeNe is getting bananas and fruit in the basement from the keepers! ❤ The platform that NeNe was sitting on was the platform she fell from trying to jump and chase Annie 😢. Do you know if the keepers have checked her leg? It looks really bad.
@IamAdrienne
@IamAdrienne 4 ай бұрын
I'm trying to give this zoo and its keepers the benefit of doubt but it's getting harder and harder. How is eating bananas going to cure the dislocated hip, difficultly in walking, constant pain, and swollen hand and forehead? In my opinion, this zoo appears to only care about the money Shabani and his troop brings in; Nene's health and wellbeing is clearly secondary.
@dueranasimp4ever
@dueranasimp4ever 4 ай бұрын
yes very disappointing since this is not a third world country. also the fact they are not being let outside. hard to relax when they are forced to be on concrete all day every day.
@juanitasmith8946
@juanitasmith8946 4 ай бұрын
@@dueranasimp4ever They are not being let outside so that they can keep a closer eye on Nene. The keepers are also trying to keep Annie more occupied. The last video shows keepers calling Annie to the side more often. I feel for Nene too. Poor girl.
@dueranasimp4ever
@dueranasimp4ever 4 ай бұрын
@@juanitasmith8946 not a good reason to not let them outside in the Sun and fresh air. if it is bad enough they have to distract annie they should just separate her at least until nene can heal.
@juanitasmith8946
@juanitasmith8946 4 ай бұрын
@@dueranasimp4ever I;m not saying it's right or wrong. I'm not a gorilla expert. I was just letting you know the reasoning behind it.
@siverski_liliputy
@siverski_liliputy 4 ай бұрын
It is actually a first time I am sad that Shabani won't discipline Annie like D'jeeco do it with his wife's. All he is doing is display, he is extremely gentle silverback, which is not always good, as we can see - Annie looked right at him before launching at injured Nene, cus she know he won't do much, she knew what she was doing and her position in family, one day it may come out of control, including if she will bully someone in her future family and get some painful marks after that😔
@celestetheariesdorsey952
@celestetheariesdorsey952 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree
@tpm9949
@tpm9949 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! So glad to see that the zoo took action and separated nene from the others. She looks so content at the end of your video. ❤ I do wonder if Annie is exploiting Nenes condition for being weak to assert herself as the alpha female of the troop. I know some have said she’s trying to “payback” Nene for the treatment that she got from her. But I can’t imagine that Annie is plotting against Nene. Both Annie and Nene have strong personalities and I just wonder if it’s a power struggle now for alpha female. 🤔
@bigboytoyz541
@bigboytoyz541 4 ай бұрын
This is just what young gorillas do when they mature. The problem is that they shouldn't still be here. They should have moved on to their own lives by now, so its really not their fault. But annie attacking nene now while she is weak and defenseless is no different than nene attacking annie when she was a weak and defenseless baby. Gorilla life is just rough sometimes.
@helengren9349
@helengren9349 4 ай бұрын
I was also wondering why they are mobbing her..🤔.even Kyio was "attacking" her, as well as Shabani sometimes...🤷
@tpm9949
@tpm9949 4 ай бұрын
@@bigboytoyz541 agree I don’t think the gorillas are at fault for their actions. I just can’t imagine that Annie sits around and plots how to get back at Nene. It’s hard to watch this play out has it has been. And like you said things would be very different if in the wild. But in captivity it’s much different and this is where the zoo can do some intervention to give some of these gorillas a better quality of life in captivity
@SolaKnitez53
@SolaKnitez53 4 ай бұрын
@@tpm9949 probably a little of both...I don't subscribe to the revenge tactic, but...who knows how gorillas think.
@SolaKnitez53
@SolaKnitez53 4 ай бұрын
@@bigboytoyz541 yes, I agree there. Hard to know to for sure.
@khentestoun8283
@khentestoun8283 4 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t Japan provide their gorillas with a more natural environment such as larger green areas to roam around in? Why can’t they have straw to build nests and something else besides concrete to break falls? Have a plan on what to do when the gorillas become adolescents. It seems like they are well fed, but that’s not the only thing that will contribute to their well being long term. Is it really that challenging and expensive to provide this for them? Aren’t there any wealthy individuals in Japan that love the great apes? I’ve never seen any zoos in Japan celebrate the birthdays with enrichments like other zoos in The US or some other countries.
@dudadossantos3646
@dudadossantos3646 4 ай бұрын
Melhoras para nene!
@Sylvia-r3r
@Sylvia-r3r 4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@dilekaltinger4371
@dilekaltinger4371 4 ай бұрын
Bazen beni Annie çok kızdırıyor . Nene'yi hiç rahat bırakmıyor 😢
@abbyd323
@abbyd323 3 ай бұрын
I'm sometimes think Annie is that way because of how mean Nene was to Annie when she was small 🥲🥲Nene constantly picked on her
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 4 ай бұрын
I’m sure they’re bored, they haven’t been outside for days. Their routine has been messed up since Nene started feeling bad and they are already in a unnatural environment. Annie hasn’t been playing with Ai or Kiyo like usual, this could by why she’s messing with Nene more than usual. I’m sure they are stressed, especially Shabani. Hopefully it gets better soon.
@joylee6968
@joylee6968 4 ай бұрын
While Nene is in the basement eating the Zoo should let the others go outside for awhile if they want.
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@joylee6968 I agree, it would be good for them to get some energy out and be in what little nature they have
@sulahaka1
@sulahaka1 4 ай бұрын
You know without going into the politics about Zoos being good or and bad etc I still think that all the animals in Zoos should not be subjected to the noise and bad behaviour by the other “human”animals who come to view them.They should have viewing areas that are visually and audibly respectful to all these amazing creatures .When I watch the videos I need to turn the sound down and not watch the antics of those on the other side.I know they mean well but I really feel for the animals being teased and made fun of.❤
@juanitasmith8946
@juanitasmith8946 4 ай бұрын
Oh I totally agree!!! Especially at this time. People need to show a little respect to these beautiful animals as well as other animals. They also need to teach their kids to respect them. I have seen Shabani's facial features when he is looking out at the crowds. It is either pissed off or totally disgusted. If we want to try and save these beautiful animals, fine, but give them the respect they deserve.
@Apararicio
@Apararicio 4 ай бұрын
😢 Parece que a vovó Nenê está nos deixando. Está muito fraquinha.😔 Tomara que os médicos veterinários isolem ela para fazer uma avaliação melhor sobre a saúde dela. Estou triste em ver a vovó Nenê neste estado.😢
@verabroes4494
@verabroes4494 4 ай бұрын
😢
@Steve-qn8gn
@Steve-qn8gn 4 ай бұрын
I mean, they aren’t doing anything about the real issue. She has something severely wrong with her leg or hip, it’s great they are feeding her but she is still stalked into climbing and she isn’t fit for it. I’m not praising this staff, they are failing miserably.
@PowerScissor
@PowerScissor 4 ай бұрын
Internet sleuths always know better than the ones who have devoted their careers and more to these animals.
@Steve-qn8gn
@Steve-qn8gn 4 ай бұрын
@@PowerScissor yeah, except the videos show the truth. No sleuthing necessary.
@AnnMarie-q9r
@AnnMarie-q9r 4 ай бұрын
​@@PowerScissor I agree. The staff know this troop well and I'm sure a vet is keeping an eye on Nene. If something is wrong that requires surgery, they won't do it because the anesthesia would most likely kill Nene at her age. We can't see what goes on in the basement, so we don't know exactly what staff is doing to help her. She may be getting injections of antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, and pain medication. Everyone should keep in mind how old Nene really is! The zoo might be managing her condition in a way similar to what Hospice does for humans. Keeping her as comfortable as possible. Of course, Nene's in pain and it shows. Don't we also limp, stumble, and walk slowly as we age too? Don't we also have medical conditions that simply don't have an easy fix? IMO, I think the zoo and Shabani are doing a great job at letting Nene rest. They can't keep her completely separated from the family because she's a gorilla; a social creature by nature. I think all of the viewers should be realistic and prepare themselves for Nene's passing. Having said all this, I too, feel bad for her and will be sad when she's gone. But also relieved that she will no longer be in pain 🦍❤🥲
@AnnMarie-q9r
@AnnMarie-q9r 4 ай бұрын
@@GrandRegentSScratch No, you stop it. He's telling the truth, just being a bit snarky about it.
@AnnMarie-q9r
@AnnMarie-q9r 4 ай бұрын
@@GrandRegentSScratch And how do YOU know she hasn't had one?? Or many? Daily? Do you work at that zoo, with the gorillas, so that you know for a FACT that Nene hasn't had a checkup? 🤔 I'm not trying to be mean; I just dislike when ppl let their emotions rule instead of common sense when it comes to animals.
@Balletcalvero
@Balletcalvero 4 ай бұрын
I figured Annie would've backed off by now. She's an empathetic girl so the continuous abuse to Nene is confusing
@ShouldHaveBeenAStripper
@ShouldHaveBeenAStripper 4 ай бұрын
That's kind of what I'm thinking. I've seen Annie try to nurse a wound on Nene a few times in the past. They've even had peaceful moments that seemed to make Annie happy. I just think Annie does these things because she always sees Shabani and Kiyo do it and it's rubbed on off her. Or she still wants any form of attention from Nene and doesn't understand why Nene isn't chasing her like before? I'm sure she knows there's something wrong with Nene, so I'm a little surprised with Annie's more persistent behavior. (I could be 100% wrong though! I'm just expressing my feelings. Annie is my favorite because of her empathetic side like you mentioned. Which is why I'm a little confused, too.❤)
@NoName-qd6vp
@NoName-qd6vp 4 ай бұрын
I actually think Annie wants Nene dead. Nene really messed up by constantly attacking her when Annie was little. Now it seems Annie is getting payback.
@barbaraparker1613
@barbaraparker1613 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps Nene won't come up from the basement is because her right leg hurts.
@candygodwin5963
@candygodwin5963 3 ай бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos on my tv that has KZbin. I will be praying for Nene-she seems worse! I have wondered if the family ever get meat or protein in their diet? I don’t know much about gorillas diet-thank you
@candygodwin5963
@candygodwin5963 3 ай бұрын
I am new and from USA
@tpm9949
@tpm9949 4 ай бұрын
Have the other gorillas had a chance to get outside?
@2nd2non
@2nd2non 4 ай бұрын
Annie and Gentaro are just like each other. I wonder why Nene and Anne dislike each other.
@コロパピィ
@コロパピィ 4 ай бұрын
アイがアニーを育児放棄した。 1年と少し人口哺育で人間に育てられたアニー。 日本では初めて人口哺育から元に戻せた。  それはシャバーニがネネからのアニーに対して長い間虐待があり守ってくれた。  自然界から来たネネは、初めからいないアニーを孫だと認めない。  それが自然かもしれない。  赤ちゃんから虐待され、シャバーニが来てくれて、でも数えきれないほど、おもいきり殴られた。  5年位やられ、体が大きくなったアニーが先手をとり自分が強い事を見せる事で虐待から逃げられた。 今でもネネは自分が生んだゴリラ達とアニーを差別して怒る。  本当なら怒らず追いかける遊びをしてほしいとアニーは思っている。 ネネがアニーを怒らず差別しないでいたら、 良くなる。 これが人口哺育の難しさ。
@コロパピィ
@コロパピィ 4 ай бұрын
アイの育児放棄でアニーは人口哺育になった。 自然界では初めからいないと認め無い所がある。 自然から来たネネ。  他のゴリラは皆動物園生まれでわかってくれた。 ネネの赤ちゃんから5年間虐待されたアニー。 体が大きくなり、 自分のが強い事を示す事で虐待がなくなった。  これが人口哺育の難しさ。 今もネネからの差別がある。 ネネが怒らず追いかける遊びが出来たら仲良くなる。 アニーは仲良くなりたいと思っている。
@コロパピィ
@コロパピィ 4 ай бұрын
アイから育児放棄され人口哺育のアニー。 自然は初めからいないと認め無い事がある。  ネネに赤ちゃんからのイジメを5年間され、 大きくなり自分から強い事をしめして、虐待がなくなった。 今でもアニーに対して差別があり、自分が生んだゴリラには怒らないがアニーには厳しいネネ。 人口哺育の難しさがある。
@2nd2non
@2nd2non 4 ай бұрын
@@コロパピィ can you translate your comment
@2nd2non
@2nd2non 4 ай бұрын
​@user-gq7jh9gx1m oh ok thank you
@ninawest8
@ninawest8 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if they give her medicine for pain and inflammation. It certainly wouldn't hurt.
@mr.c1580
@mr.c1580 4 ай бұрын
Have you seen the addics in Kensington Philadelphia?
@ninawest8
@ninawest8 4 ай бұрын
@@mr.c1580 Ya, too bad they weren't taking ibuprofen like I was suggesting. Those zombies in Kensington are taking trank...WTF
@nicolefournel-hartery8187
@nicolefournel-hartery8187 2 ай бұрын
Something is definitely wrong with Nene. Look at how she walked, just a few steps. It's as if she's in pain with her right leg. Poor girl!
@kraftdinner2336
@kraftdinner2336 4 ай бұрын
Knowing that Nene is sick and she was holding her head, the Keepers should have had a Sign up for the Visitors to keep their voices down. You can't tell me that those Gorillas doesn't hear them. Visitors should have the Respect and Commonsense to keep their voices low.
@too9593
@too9593 4 ай бұрын
They not doing very good. Job protecting her Annie hit her and they did nothing but run . Dad needs to correct Annie but he never does!
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 4 ай бұрын
I’m sure Shabani knows how to handle and take care of his troop better than people on KZbin lol
@too9593
@too9593 4 ай бұрын
@@kaylie8580 if she's getting slapped and things thrown at her I don't think so!
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 4 ай бұрын
@@too9593 You think you know better than him on how to deal with his troop?🤣
@joylee6968
@joylee6968 4 ай бұрын
Annie is smart and knows to hit Nene when Shabani is not looking.
@stevemorris6790
@stevemorris6790 4 ай бұрын
@@GrandRegentSScratch, people sometimes uses their critical intelligence besides just their emotions. Genki isn’t the great mother as people says and she isn’t that beautiful too. . Annie most the time taps Nene and runs. Gorillas society are like that and Shabani attachment to Annie was a completely response of Nene and Ai bitten, pushing, and scratching Annie and by the way the old videos despise their behaviors etc.
@joannadamik96
@joannadamik96 4 ай бұрын
I am worried about Nene. She has a cut over her eye, plus it's tearing. She also has a large cut on her hand. What is wrong with her? Is she ill? Is she dying?
@edithsavino5226
@edithsavino5226 4 ай бұрын
I'm fairly new to this channel. I have fallen so in love with gorillas. I didn't know they were so sweet till I came across the shabani and momotaro family on KZbin. Does anyone know why Annie is so persistent in pestering poor Nene?
@bigboytoyz541
@bigboytoyz541 4 ай бұрын
Annie was artificially nursed and raised by the zoo for the first 10 months or so, because her mother didn't care for her. When she was introduced to the group everything was great except for nene. Nene constantly attacked her and a few times it was even obvious that she was trying to kill her. Now that annie is bigger and stronger she has been dishing it out to nene. Unfortunately now nene is weak and defenseless, but annie was just a weak and defenseless baby when she attacked her so...
@SolaKnitez53
@SolaKnitez53 4 ай бұрын
@@bigboytoyz541 well....lol Nene was also protecting Kiyo and probably saw Annie as an intruder to the troop....they can't tell us, we can just speculate.
@joylee6968
@joylee6968 4 ай бұрын
Annie was taken away from the troop because AI her mother rejected her. Later when she was reintroduced Nene a wild animal did not trust her around her son and saw Annie as a threat to him.
@SolaKnitez53
@SolaKnitez53 4 ай бұрын
@@joylee6968 that's how I see it too. I watched the video. It was difficult but I don't believe in gorilla retribution....lol... unfortunately, some view it different with human emotions.
@bigboytoyz541
@bigboytoyz541 4 ай бұрын
@@SolaKnitez53 I never said anything about why nene did it, I just said she did it. No speculation here.
@arantxabcn5762
@arantxabcn5762 4 ай бұрын
Por que no puedo traducir los subtitulos? 😢😢😢
@mr.c1580
@mr.c1580 4 ай бұрын
They let us watch this Gorilla family every day, but they share very little information about them! I don't think they really care...😢
@racheleastwood5588
@racheleastwood5588 4 ай бұрын
The staff need to do better regarding beauty Nene
@dueranasimp4ever
@dueranasimp4ever 4 ай бұрын
this is the norm for japanese zoos apparently. all they care about is revenue.
@racheleastwood5588
@racheleastwood5588 4 ай бұрын
Yeah they are horrible
@SNicole82
@SNicole82 4 ай бұрын
How old is Annie?
@kaylie8580
@kaylie8580 4 ай бұрын
She turned 11 in June
@aliciailes2891
@aliciailes2891 4 ай бұрын
There's something wrong with her and they shouldn't be hitting on her she can barely walk she almost fell off the platform a few days ago, they need to run some tests to make sure she's not suffering , ik she's old but it's not fair to her to slowly die off . I hope the staff intervenes and does something to make her more comfortable for what time she's got left which doesn't look like allot.
@occultustactical6138
@occultustactical6138 4 ай бұрын
Please let Nene recover in peace. Annie is so abusive to Nene. It makes me mad the staff let this happen day after day. Separate Annie let her be by herself maybe after a few days alone maybe she will leave Nene alone. Nene needs something soft to lay on. All the concrete isn’t natural. Nene needs lots of love and meds she is in pain.
@stevemorris6790
@stevemorris6790 4 ай бұрын
Annie isn’t abusing Nene. This is the way gorillas society works.
@dueranasimp4ever
@dueranasimp4ever 4 ай бұрын
@@stevemorris6790 this is a zoo so no not how a gorilla society works. also she is clearly injured and should not be in the same area as annie if she is going to constantly be chasing her making her run away when she can barely move. and was said by another person in the comments nene used to bully annie apparently so now that nene is old and weak she is getting payback.
@liorlazimi
@liorlazimi 4 ай бұрын
really? i read about gorillas in the wild and i never read that they bully a ill/weak family member. dian fossey even mentioned that they slow the pace to allow slower members to keep up with the troop. there is an information that i missed?​@stevemorris6790
@mr.c1580
@mr.c1580 4 ай бұрын
Why does Annie pick on Nene?
@CogDisso
@CogDisso 4 ай бұрын
A combination of Nene being the weakest/slowest member of the troop and possibly because Nene used to attack Annie when she was an infant, so she's got the gorilla equivalent of a grudge.
@GypsyTarot
@GypsyTarot 4 ай бұрын
The food this troop is fed is a disgrace! It's not the keepers but the owners here. The Keepers can only work with what they get I'm sure. but this diet is not sufficiant for them. Just my opinion.
@ShouldHaveBeenAStripper
@ShouldHaveBeenAStripper 4 ай бұрын
And your opinion is valid. :) A lot of us have different perspectives and there have been times I've understood another opinions (esp those with more experience) that made me rethink my initial opinions. I've learned a lot of things from others. If you get criticism from others, I wouldn't worry. You have every right to state your concerns, observations, perspective, etc.❤
@susg644
@susg644 4 ай бұрын
Wonder why they aren’t able to go outside?
@christinabradford2364
@christinabradford2364 4 ай бұрын
And how would you know that they're not doing anything for Nene? Do you have a private line to the vet? You have the inside scoop? Tell us everything. Is her hip or her leg broken? Does she have swelling going on? Tell us what the vet said, don't hold back. Were all adults here, we can take it. You only see what's going on in the video's but what about behind the scenes. She's old so it's going to take longer for her to heal.
@christinabradford2364
@christinabradford2364 4 ай бұрын
This is in response to you @Steve-qngn
@dueranasimp4ever
@dueranasimp4ever 4 ай бұрын
weird how being worried about injured animals bothers you so much. are you japanese?
@sandraphillips1718
@sandraphillips1718 4 ай бұрын
Nene is 52, but I think that's about 80 in human yrs.
@bigboytoyz541
@bigboytoyz541 4 ай бұрын
She would be around 90, gorilla years are almost double, but not quite.
@ThereIsNeverEnough
@ThereIsNeverEnough 3 ай бұрын
these are sentient creatures.... they shoudlnt be kept in zoos... I understand you want to see them.... but thats like me saying I want to watch you..... see how creepy that is?
@fukyu-q6z2024
@fukyu-q6z2024 4 ай бұрын
Be well Nene 🙏🙏🙏
@onodagaufo6187
@onodagaufo6187 4 ай бұрын
She's probably bored to death.
@caroljanecka1396
@caroljanecka1396 4 ай бұрын
Just a helpful tip: You keep reversing the pronoun genders. He, his, him, and so on are used for males (Shabani, Kiyomasa). She, hers, her and so on are used for the females (Nene, Ai, Annie).
@mr.c1580
@mr.c1580 4 ай бұрын
I've tried to set them straight about this many many times, but they refuse to learn. I think it's Woke Culture taking over...
@williamshepley3923
@williamshepley3923 4 ай бұрын
Even the little boy couldn't get Annie out of her ways. I think shes gonna kill Nene if zoo dont isolate nene to heal . There is an alpha female in troops🦍
@nanette_128
@nanette_128 4 ай бұрын
@marooneysaroon
@marooneysaroon 4 ай бұрын
ผมหวังว่าสวนสัตว์จะแยก Nene ออกมาอยู่คนเดียว เหมือน Fatou ที่อายุ67ปีแล้ว เธอก็อยู่คนเดียวอย่างสงบ ตอนนี้ Nene เธอมีระดับชั้นต่ำที่สุดในกลุ่มแล้ว และ Annie ก็คอยจะหาทางแกล้งเธอตลอดเวลา
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