Jaron Lanier | Gray Area Festival 2019 Keynote

[@yetiplay]

"The most beautiful moment in VR is when you leave..." Have we done anything to deserve this compassion and care... this grace in one human soul. I vote for Jaron.

[@andybaldman]

49:20 This whole section where Jaron talks about experiencing something as fast as someone creates it has always been what I've thought of when I've experienced highly skilled jazz musicians improvise. It's always seemed to me to be the closest you can come to getting directly inside someone else's mind. They are creating feeling as they are experiencing it, and it's bypassing a lot of conscious 'thinking', and flowing directly into another person, like no other creative thing, IMO.

[@richardpage2841]

Great classical music consorts get into each other so closely there is only one being playing. Advanced Aikido practitioners 'know' the 'attacker's' (Uke's) mind at the 'instant' (Read A. Coomaraswami's "Time and Timelessness" ) the attacker has intention, and blend with the 'attack', receiving it as a dance of Love...

[@johncoltranesethic18]

I know what you're talking about. The fact, at least in my practice, is that to get there you have to respect your ability to intuitively descern complex patterns without the pretention to be speculative in the moment. The possibility of creative thinking are directly connected to your preparation as long as it is holisticly perceived. It's an event in which analysis could not take place. This is so important because the open space of creativity in this case is filled with a sincere practice of the unknown in which muscle memory, your ear, the emotional travel designed by the experience are in total synchronicity with the music. That is the fascinating part. You do not train to repeat yourself but to have different logics interacting with each others creating hopefully a new piece of language in which you can feel comfortable.

[@1puppetbike]

Yesterday I was just talking to a friend about the almost crazy frenetic energy given off by horn / jazz musicians. Like.. craaazy man. ...aaaaand then they stop Playing... sometimes the energy lingers within them. Thanks!

[@mosamaster]

This is so philosophical and spiritual than any of the religious sermons i have heard in my life.

[@Ryan-nn1kl]

That's because it's relavant

[@franksoul]

What a great intellect.

[@ab-surd]

He's one of the greatest visionairs and minds of our time.

[@answerback-films655]

you cant trick me

[@innerstrengthcheck]

This man is an international treasure and a paragon of both intellect and genuine humanism.

[@TheEricJust]

I could talk with this guy until I die

[@lamegliogioventu]

he speaks from the wiseness of thousands of soul who have experienced milions of lifetimes

[@Xul]

I couldn't stand 10 minutes of this vague rambling. I still don't get why people are so impressed by Cpt. obvious with dreadlocks. He never offers falsifiable and precise explanations - just mere "deepities". I like people like Snowden much more who offer actual insights/facts and clear-cut answers (even if if you don't agree). This TEDtalk pseudo-intellectualism by Lanier just turns me off.

[@TheEricJust]

@@Xul fair ennough. It's kind of a niche I like a lot. Maybe if you listened longer?

[@Xul]

@@TheEricJust Yeah I tried that, but I guess as an analytic philosopher I'm just a bit thin-skinned when it comes to such "philosophical" talks that trigger my bullshit detectors ;) I miss exact thinking and precise, falsifiable claims in every talk by Lanier. It is somewhat okay since he is delivering at least some postive attitudes - but it still basically "trains" people to accept obscurantism as "deep" insights that don't need to provide a factual basis or a concept for solutions. Thus, it can open the door for the Trumps of this world. I'd rather prefer some modern version of people lIke Popper or Russell: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWTEgZ6wfdWHbq8

[@TheEricJust]

@@Xul I can agree there is soe fluff, i prefer some of his other videos

[@pinkshoes388]

The poster child for "not judging a book by its cover". What an intelligent, eyeopening guy. One wouldn't give much for him judging by his looks, yet he's smarter than a lot of suited up wall streeters. Jaron: attempting at waking up the masses for years now. Thank you for educating us on the dangerous of Social Media

[@judithhart4251]

One of the living geniuses of Planet Earth today. I adore his brain and so, so grateful for his talks and thoughts being shared. Gratias Deo!

[@Myrslokstok]

He is actually way to humble for what he acived and his life should be a movie 🍿 I think. He is far from todays carrer IT robot. And a prof of that it is the brave, odd and intelligent people that change the world and we have to care of them better.

[@etymos6644]

"Consciousness is the only thing that isn't reduced if it's an illusion" - A good translation of the Cogito :)

[@kennbmondo]

Jaron is a beautiful human.

[@douglasdickerson5184]

Utterly fascinating!

[@mescellaneous]

how to attain his method of abstraction? his mind is of brilliance.

[@JodsLife1]

Dude is really interesting with a lot of cool ideas/observations

[@chrisconnor8086]

love you jaron

[@epistemologicaldespair68]

Language is a form of Virtual Reality, very possibly the first virtual reality. Before the invention of language, you and your friend couldn’t discuss an event in the past or discuss an event in the future, but through language you form a reality that’s outside of the now.

[@mescellaneous]

language is the code. but yes, with code you can make virtual reality

[@FutureLaugh]

This guy is a grimy genius. The real watch makers of the world are the highest caliber of different. Nerds of the world, unite!

[@MK-ih6wp]

Look up Goertzel, he is even more surreal.

[@FutureLaugh]

@@MK-ih6wp thanks will check him out

[@carstengjelsten1718]

Thank you for all your heart and humour Jaron Lanier - it is wonderful! 🌻 life!

[@brujua7]

Thanks for uploading this. Very instersting.

[@jaysphilosophy1951]

Can you leave the recording date in the info please?

[@JeremyHelm]

Looks like it would have been in July 25-28, 2019. I found this: facebook.com/events/s/gray-area-festival-2019/252455188963458/?ti=cl

[@DandinXY]

Awesome video, thanks for uploading

[@DMXR2022]

Really interesting lecture, I was a bit surprised to hear him say that VR is only focused on gaming, even back in 2019 there was already a lot of excitement building about vr creative apps like tilt brush, quill, medium etc... Totally agree that creative tools and social apps should be at the heart of VR, surprising that Jaron didn't seem fully aware of those already out there considering they totally match his vision. Amazing guy.

[@JeremyHelm]

12:30-1:20pm, Friday, Aug 9, 2019 (around two weeks after this) Jaron spoke at Outside Lands, titled "Virtual Reality is the Opposite of Artificial Intelligence" - which sounds like the same theme here. This is the event description from their website at the time: "The father of Virtual Reality explains. Artificial Intelligence asks you to pretend that you are not conscious, while VR makes you notice that you are, because consciousness floats persistently in VR, no matter how radical the world and the body transform. AI pretends it isn’t an illusion, while VR announces that it is. VR is the way for computers to be honest."

[@curtisnixon5313]

Love you Jaron

[@GarielBee]

51:03 "just creating the illusion is stupid because (human) perception is so imperfect anyway" .

[@Myrslokstok]

Is he related with Amelia Lanier and so olso Quinzy Jones.

[@avedic]

Thanks Duncan!

[@Jesseweneedtocook90kg]

Same reason I'm here lmao

[@CraigTalbert]

Duncan T mentioned this?

[@JeremyHelm]

Okay, this comment makes sense to me now. jrelibrary.com/1444-duncan-trussell/

[@JackTheRabbitMusic]

I wanna jam with Jaron! 🐰❤️🎸🎶🤝✌️

[@richardpage2841]

"AI has become a lot of large corporations tricking people"

[@JamesScottGuitar]

Would love to know if Jaron has read Krishnamurti.

[@JeremyHelm]

What's with the cut at 56:41 ?

[@sittingonthebeach]

I feel like he was told to wrap things up by the event organisers

[@JamesScottGuitar]

Meditation is the original technology to observing the “there you are floating inside” while actually witnessing the floating inside, from inside and outside.

[@truBador2]

Why would Turing's computer lace his apple with cyanide?

[@DemetriusFuller]

It's ain't bragging if it's true!

[@Myrslokstok]

He is actually way to humble for what he acived and his life should be a movie 🍿 I think.

[@MattAngiono]

These days many of us are challenged to put OURSELVES in the circle of empathy..... Let alone animals or AI... But I certainly hope we do!

[@zachtaylor1288]

He probably smokes the finest weed in all the land.

[@justme8108]

His face reminds me of Leonardo da Vinci.

[@speciallion1135]

You are an amazing soul, Jaron. Would love to know what your prediction would be, during these very trying times. My guess is that the whole AI will be short lived & hopefully, will implode on itself, leaving us to be human again.

[@thespaceinbetweenx]

I know all of this was very serious, but that was so funny when he was doing his back in my day impression 😭😭😭😭

[@JeremyHelm]

The Elder speaks: 52:45

[@JeremyHelm]

That cracks me up. Great performance!

[@TheDREADlight]

The 3 Fates basically. MS-does you?

[@dmtmediabrothers]

Here from rogan cast

[@CraigTalbert]

What is that?

[@CraigTalbert]

Was this mentioned on JRE?

[@dmtmediabrothers]

@@CraigTalbert yessir.

[@JeremyHelm]

@@dmtmediabrothers and what episode was that?

[@andybaldman]

@@JeremyHelm The Jaron Lanier episode.

[@MK-ih6wp]

22:30 This really happened. And he is not laughing about it.

[@andybaldman]

6:10 Funny, if you're a fan of Penn Jillette, you'll hear him make the same comment about 'real' magicians.

[@epistemologicaldespair68]

The kind of VR he is talking about would change communication forever, and would possibly make language obsolete. Instead of conveying to you what’s in my mind through small acoustical noises generated by my mouth and those noises going into your ears with you deciphering all of this (we’re hoping we have the same dictionary), instead of that I could show you my idea, and we could look at it and walk around it and kick the tires of it like it’s a 1969 Camaro, an extreme method of communication. I find this very very interesting, finally one could literally “See what I mean”. All of our language metaphors are visual anyways such as the latter. Or someone might say “She painted a picture with her words”. In my observation, communication is our number one barrier. What he’s talking about around the 45-50 minute mark would make language as crude as trying to walk around the earth instead of flying, potentially even more drastic than that comparison.

[@TheMPBailey]

Please, Jaron, don't go all Neil D Tyson on us. Just figure out how to feed that big brain to all of us without callin us idiots.

[@richardpage2841]

"Just creating the illusion is stupid to me...I talk to my friends at Facebook after all that's happening and they still claim they are not creating, they are only measuring, that there is nothing iatrogenic going on..."

[@richardpage2841]

"When everything changes and you are still there...floating...conscious" Much akin to Ramana Maharshi's 'non-teaching'

[@nn-gr7kw]

So sad about T's end of life and the way he was treated:( ✨🔥

[@krillnukem892]

omg - nothing sexier that a wonderful brain. 😍😎

[@ПопулярновБългария]

41:20 best moment

[@kevinevans6571]

Marvin is so sweet??

[@nn-gr7kw]

You bring up pro choice. Choice is the mother's .. choice to pay for 'mother' abortion other than the mother should be other's choice. I choose not to pay through government funding for abortion.. Yet- I have no choice. The choice is mother/ conscious/ God, and should be mother's economic responsibility, as well. For one to have choice. should be for all to have choice. Great conversation. Thank you!

[@uberdru]

Bergson, man, pay some respect to Henri Bergson would you?

[@andybaldman]

Who was that, and why?

[@albertawheat6832]

@@andybaldman “Fortunately, some are born with spiritual immune systems that sooner or later give rejection to the illusory worldview grafted upon them from birth through social conditioning. They begin sensing that something is amiss, and start looking for answers. Inner knowledge and anomalous outer experiences show them a side of reality others are oblivious to, and so begins their journey of awakening. Each step of the journey is made by following the heart instead of following the crowd and by choosing knowledge over the veils of ignorance.” ― Henri Bergson

[@andybaldman]

@@albertawheat6832 Thank you!

[@autumnpendergast9151]

Oppenheimer was clever too.

[@decentdanoz]

virtual mutuality.

[@SharpUchi]

[@pkpapers]

There is something real that's called misandry. Behavior modification is integral to the conservatively imposing of "progressive" narratives that discount existential reality (fetus, etc.).

[@leozheng1582]

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[@recidivists]

There is nothing here. Truth? Empathy or entropy. Nothing in this speech.

[@connorkearley7381]

grrr

[@chriswarden694]

I find it hard to pay attention though all of the labored mouth breathing. He should try doing a little cardio.

[@acelordmagegodstreams3685]

Its hard to pay attention if you're not present

[@CraigTalbert]

He mentions his issues with weight in Dawn of The New Everything.

[@autumnpendergast9151]

Even better would be carnivore.

[@EmilyGloeggler7984]

A total waste of time listening to this man. His chosen perspective doesn’t work for everyone.

[@andybaldman]

Then don't listen, and get out of the way of those who choose to.

[@andybaldman]

Is it the pro-life stuff that bothers you, or the pro gay stuff?

[@IRGhost0]

that's the point of living in a free society. you have the opportunity to listen to people who think differently, which is how society improves.

[@treybarefoot7040]

Your intellect would be greatly served by the widening of its own walls