Sherman Transmission Installation (Ford 8N Tractor)

[@JS-oy6nn]

Really impressive videos and the slickest way I have ever seen a tractor split. All around great job and fantastic information 👍🏻

[@Jason1Pa]

Thank you Sir glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and the great compliment!

[@TheIronDuke502]

Hello From Kentucky. Recently I purchased a 8N Ford which is probably between a 1950-1952 8N because of the side mounted distributor. After I got the tractor home, I noticed that my tractor had the Sherman transmission with the same identical shifter as the one in your video. I was so glad that I found this video because a sizable number of people have no clue what a Sherman transmission is let alone the shifting characteristics. The 8N Ford that I purchased had a Woods RM306 finish mower thrown into the deal for $1200 for both the tractor and mower which I found just 2-3 miles up the road from where I live from someone that I know. I’m not sure if he knew about the Sherman transmission because he never mentioned it to me when I went to look at the tractor. They delivered the tractor to me, So I didn’t have to worry with any delivery charges. So far as luck would have it, the weather has been crappy and so I haven’t been able to really drive the tractor that much. I never realized the process of installing a Sherman transmission was so complicated and labor intensive, But I am elated that my tractor has the Sherman transmission.

[@Jason1Pa]

@TheIronDuke502 Well, congratulations!! You are fortunate to already have one! I hope it is in good shape for you, shifts well ,and doesn't make any noise. I personally will not mess with them anymore. This rebuild was expensive and honestly other then road gear I see them kind of pointless. To me they still don't slow the tractor down enough especially in reverse. Also it slows the pto speed down too. They are fast though! I hope you get to enjoy your tractor soon!

[@ericlakota1847]

Those tralors legs on the thumbnail is genius

[@jimwebb9328]

Hi range, 4th gear, full throttle...wheee! That's when you find out how good your tie rod ends are!

[@jesserowe8986]

My buddy's wormaster 601 tie rods are shot we have fun hauling ass in 4th trying trying keep it straight. Its a wild ride haha. My 8n ain't as fun. The tie rods are good on it lol

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

Repair videos are difficult to make- nicely done!

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks Chris! Yes it can be time consuming. You end up taking things apart and back together multiple times just to get the best shot. Editing can soak up hours. I didn't plan my channel to be full of these type videos,but it just happened. 😆

[@oldrust601]

I am glad I came across your video because I have a ford 8n tractor that I have to split... best idea...lot better than what my idea.. great video

[@Jason1Pa]

@oldrust601 Thanks! Glad it could be of some help

[@andrewmantle7627]

Good to see you Jason. Thanks for a new video.

[@vanderpoolfarmsl.l.c.9983]

Your 2N, 9N, 8N videos are the very best by a large margin! Thank you for these very instructional videos and please keep up the good work!!!

[@Jason1Pa]

Thank you! I appreciate that. Hopefully I'll get better. I have some more ideas for the future.

[@sandwon]

The trailer jacks are a great idea. Thanks for sharing👍

[@Jason1Pa]

Sure makes life easier! Thanks for watching.

[@redtractorsman]

You are a great instructor, thanks for taking time to show your projects.

[@Jason1Pa]

Thank you Larry!

[@johnnycampbell5234]

Love the Ford tractor content, grew up plowing the garden and bushhoggin with a 47 2N. N series Always my favorites

[@Jason1Pa]

Thank you! I've been around them since birth. My favorites for sure. Thanks for watching.

[@paulmachak9853]

Very good videography and narration. Thank you.

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks!

[@RustyWrenchRestorations]

Been a few years since I've watched your videos.... nice to see them again and remember just how good they are! Very informative and professionally put together! Thank you for all the help and motivation over the years!

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks Steve!! I really want to get back into making some more videos just haven't found a project worth filming. Fingers crossed that will change. Tomorrow I'm heading out to the Northeast John Deere Expo out in Lancaster Ohio. I'll definitely be looking at the crawlers differently now!🤣

[@RustyWrenchRestorations]

Awesome! Have a safe and fun trip... and YES! Please make more videos! Just one walking around that show would be great!

[@stevecunningham2302]

One of the best instructional videos I’ve seen. Very good work.

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks Steve!

[@rockerpat1085]

Excellent!!! Love the trailer jack stands!!! Will come in handy when I split Henry!!! Too bad I don't have a Sherman!!! Keep Rocking It Out Brother!!!

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks Pat!! Yes trailer jacks make life easier and safer. Plus I can use them on other makes and models as well.

[@WalterShepherd-n9w]

I love all older tractors

[@Jason1Pa]

Me too

[@normpowell3566]

OMG That was so easy to split the tractor. Always learn something on your presentations. Thank-you.

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks. Takes a little extra time to set up,but it's worth it.

[@jvin248]

I really like your boat trailer jacks idea. When I split my Ferguson 35 I used a 4-wheel mover dolly stacked with lumber to get the height. Got the job done less elegantly. For speedy utility tractors you need to make sure the steering box, vertical wheel shaft bearings, front wheel bearings, and all steering linkages are tight or the tractor will wander dangerously as the speed goes up.

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks for the compliment. Yes steering components are very important. This particular one has had some work done and is tight as the day it was made. Plus the whole rear end,axle seals,brake shoes,hubs are all new. Stops perfectly. I can go down the road in high range and take my hands off the wheel and it still goes straight.

[@getonlygotonly]

you sure do know what your doing and only have 7k subscribers and there are people who dont have a clue that have 30k and more subscribers. great educational video on technology that is hard to find info. keep up the great work.

[@Jason1Pa]

Thank you so much for the kind words. Unfortunately I think repair videos aren't the greatest thing to have as far as grabbing subscribers. People generally come across the videos when looking for help then once they get the help they move on. Also a lot of the successful channels are popular because of the people or person doing it. Some individuals just have that likeable thing that people are drawn to. Plus I only make a few videos a year and that definitely hurts. I have many ideas to get the channel to grow,but haven't done it yet. 😅 Thznks for watching!

[@gregpatey6355]

great production on the vid.... you put a lot of work into this one. thanks

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks Greg I appreciate it.

[@bruceapger5492]

Good video simple and to the point not a bunch of b.s.

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks Bruce! I try to keep my videos simple without leaving and good information and going on and on. It can be hard to do at times.

[@FarmallFanatic]

Sherman's a game changer 🙌

[@tomrobards7753]

What is the ground speed of a Sherman transmission in first gear low speed I was wanting one to use with a tiller attachment for gardening? ? would appreciate your reply if you know thanks

[@Vigo327]

@@tomrobards7753 That is partially ‘what it’s for’ so i wouldn’t overthink it, just go for it if you can get everything reasonably to do it.

[@phildo39645]

Thing to remember is it not only slows tire speed it also slows PTO speed as well so tiller Speed slows too.. Generally speaking the N series is not a good candidate for a tiller..

[@FarmallFanatic]

@@phildo39645 concur

[@steveaw5895]

Thanks for these videos. Now I know how an auxiliary transmission works. My daughter got a project 2N with an aux trans. Now I know a little more about it.

[@Jason1Pa]

Your welcome! Does the 2N have a Step Up transmission or the combo transmission? 9N and 2Ns are more likely to have a Step Up in them.

[@steveaw5895]

I’m not sure. On the trans case is marked H N. L. After seeing your video I have a little more knowledge as to what I’m looking at. Tomorrow we’re going to look at an old Ford pickup. I’m going to try to talk her out of it till she gets some other projects caught up. She has the tractor, a ‘66 Jeep CJ 5 half tore apart, and a ‘72 Starcraft boat half tore apart. I think it might be time for me to say NO.

[@Jason1Pa]

@@steveaw5895 That does sound like a full plate! I only give myself one project at a time or I feel overwhelmed. It sounds like you may have a Sherman High and low range.

[@vernonheyder3680]

I did one about 35 years ago hit and miss it worked out well

[@williamgawel8467]

Just washed your video Jason another great job I won’t have a Sherman transmission on my Ford two end when I rebuild it in the spring but now I understand how it’s put in and works so thank you and keep up the good work

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks William!!

[@williamgawel8467]

@@Jason1Pa just watching a lot of your old tapes to pass the time till it gets warm enough and I can go up and work on my Ford tractor

[@williamgawel8467]

When I do rebuild my Ford two and Tractor, I will be passing it along to my grandson along with my tools and also your give him a chance to watch all your whole tapes old tapes. This will be the last one I work on, so it’s time to pass it on thanks again.

[@Jason1Pa]

@@williamgawel8467 That is wonderful to hear! Thanks for watching. Hope the videos are helpful!

[@billrook6165]

A really nice sounding 8N. Makes me wish we had kept ours.

[@JP-nr1ty]

Awesome video! You have a great way of explaining things. I wish you lived in MN, I'd send you all 3 of my tractors. ;)

[@Jason1Pa]

Hahahaha!!! Thanks for the compliment.

[@knuckle47]

Jason, enjoyed it immensely…thanks for taking the time to showcase your excellent work … I like and subscribe !

[@Jason1Pa]

Awesome thanks!!

[@44place85]

Very nice video thank you for taking the time and sharing with us

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks! 😁

[@robertrabhudsonhornet5869]

I love old Ford tractors that's a nice upgrade 👍

[@Gmtail]

Awesome idea with the trailer tongue jacks sir..👍👍

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks! Definitely makes it easier and safer. Especially when working alone.

[@daviddrobnicki4433]

Very interesting video and well explained. I have a '52 that I would love to do this to.

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks!!

[@gusdevries6037]

Excellent video thank you I never knew about these transmissions until today.

[@Jason1Pa]

Awesome! Thanks for watching!

[@michaeldow2955]

great video going to try it soon

[@Jason1Pa]

Good Luck!!

[@davidkraft3690]

Great video ! Takes a lot of patience to set that bearing preload. Good explanation of how to.

[@Jason1Pa]

Yes you can't be in hurry that's for sure!

[@MrLarryduane100]

Doesn't adding sealant to the shims change the dimensions? Thanks!

[@stephenfox3236]

Glad you're back.

[@Jason1Pa]

Hey Steven I was just thinking about you the other day. I was looking threw old pictures and saw all your old pictures you sent. You ever get it going?

[@thesupacoop4002]

Great video, but I have become a fan lately. I'm not a tractor owner, however I do have an early Ford flathead V8 car, and have worked on the motor and transmission, and so many of the components looked very familiar to me. May I suggest that all machined mating surfaces and threads need to be cleaned before reassembly, especially if you are shimming too obtain a critical clearance. Also I would advise using a Loctite product on all threads and torquing critical bolts on the Sherman transmission. Regarding an oil change, I am not sure if the top of the Sherman can be removed in situ, if so, then the old oil could be sucked out from the top is required. Just a thought. Keep up the good work !!

[@Jason1Pa]

I love the old flat head V8s !! All threads and mating surfaces were cleaned. I also did put Loctite on some of the bolts. When making these videos it's hard trying to make them as short as possible yet informative. A lot gets edited out. I have people tell me all the time I talk to much. 🤣

[@rickolson9011]

Very slick (and safe)!

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks Rick! Appreciate you watching all these years.

[@njseashorechas2698]

I always wondered what was involved with splitting one. I remember my god father had one split in his garage on his farm in upstate New York.. Ill probably never do one but sill fun to watch!

[@Jason1Pa]

Yeah it can be fun. 😆 Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed.

[@2ndamendment770]

Fantastic Job ! !

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks

[@tomnovak7731]

Great video. Thanx! One might think by looking at how these tractors were designed, if the Sherman was designed to fit in there or if the tractor was built to hold the auxiliary transmission.

[@Jason1Pa]

Well the tractor did come first! 😆 But yeah it's pretty amazing all the engineering that went into these. Always more complex then what people think.

[@arthurjohnson5321]

Very informative video I have though I have a Sherman in my jubilee and I have been looking for any kind of information on it . Thank you I have subscribed

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks for watching! Hope the video answered some questions.

[@coalheatefm1157]

Excellent video, thanks!

[@Jason1Pa]

Glad you enjoyed thanks for watching

[@SevenOaksOutdoors]

great idea with the rolling jacks!

[@Jason1Pa]

Glad you like them!

[@tomrizzo1554]

Impressive

[@ZAPATTUBE]

Thanks, that was a Great video. It split easy!

[@Jason1Pa]

THANKS!!

[@jimlandreth555]

VERY GOOD VIDEO ! THANKS

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks 😊

[@andrewlawrence4511]

I couldn't help but notice your tires on that tractor, I have one like them and an old straight bar firestone type that needs to be replaced. Do you remember what kind your tires in this video are?

[@Jason1Pa]

These are 11.2 x 28 Titan tire. A lot of the older Armstrong tires had this exact tread design.

[@rayjohnson1778]

Outstanding video, excellent job. Was wondering if you could bore hole underneath to beable to drain Sherman oil, or does the oil last so long that it isn't necessary

[@Jason1Pa]

The oil gets circulated in and out from the tractors main transmission. If you keep up with the oil changes regularly and it doesn't get contaminated your only leaving a quart or so behind. Out of 5 gallon that's nothing. Thanks for watching.

[@tomrobards7753]

Great video 👍

[@Jason1Pa]

Thank You!

[@PurpleCollarLife]

Amazing job!

[@Jason1Pa]

Thank You!!

[@davidpruyne7340]

Dam good video Jason

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks David! Appreciate it. Thanks for watching

[@ratfarmers]

I noticed on one of my Sherman hi/lo tractors someone drilled a hole on the bottom of the bell housing to get to the Sherman drain plug.

[@Jason1Pa]

Just curious as to how big the hole is? It would need to be rather large or you could accidentally drop the plug and have it stuck in the the bell housing. Also if you'd drain it and oil wouldn't exit the bell housing you could get oil on the clutch possibly especially if the weep hole is clogged. Any hole too big I'd fear would drastically effect the strength of the tractor. Too me personally if you keep up with frequent oil changes that little bit of oil that fills the Sherman would be nothing to worry about. It will eventually get mixed in with all the new gear oil. Another point to ponder. What if that hole was created to spray something on the clutch that got stuck at one time?

[@jerryf609]

Jason. Thanks for the great video. Im repacing the clutch in my 2N. The clutch is oily. The front chamber for the flywheel is oily and i think i need to replace the rear main seal. But the housing for my Sherman is also very oily. Do you think the oil is leaking in the Sherman and also possibly from the transmission where the Sherman bolts on. I dont want to get oil on my new clutch. Thanks.

[@Jason1Pa]

More then likely it's the seal on the input shaft of the Sherman that is the issue. It could leak where the gasket where the Sherman and the tractor meet BUT that oil should go straight down and out the weep oil if it gets too bad. Should stay off the clutch. Your rear main seal should do the same if that weep hole is open as well closer to flywheel. When that input seal leaks the oil will travel down the shaft right on to the clutch. If the other two are leaking it should just drain out. Hope that makes sense.

[@jerryf609]

​@@Jason1Pa Thanks. I just watched you rebuild the Sherman . With your reply and these 2 videos i feel prepared to tackle it. Thanks again.

[@Jason1Pa]

@@jerryf609 Awesome!! Good luck!!

[@bibleandjesus.3988]

I thank you for your upload. Have a wonderful day.🔔

[@walmartdog1142]

My family had a Ford 2n or 9n with a Sherman for quite a few years, and I considered it "my" tractor. Were all Shermans like the one in your video, in that the shift lever had an in and out position, plus forward and and back positions? If so, there were two positions that we never knew existed ! !

[@Jason1Pa]

There were different kinds. Most popular for the 9N and 2Ns were the Step Up ONLY Shermans. They don't shift like the one in the video. There was also one that was only shift down but they are very rare. There was even one that was used on tractors that had forklifts on it. It would give you sever speeds in reverse.

[@Jason1Pa]

There were several different kinds of Sherman's. More

[@moparornocar3764]

Do you have a video that showed how a properly adjusted clutch should work. Zillion vids on adjusting none shows you exactly how the clutch should travel and work properly. Thanks

[@Jason1Pa]

Not on a 8n

[@moparornocar3764]

@@Jason1Pa ok thanks. Any that style tractor would probably do. Can you tell me on an 8n should the peddle travel all the way down when pressed down? It’s stopping right after the free play. Just bam that’s it. About half way down. Thanks

[@Jason1Pa]

@moparornocar3764 Yes it should go all the way down to the running board. If not it almost sounds like your pressure plate is stuck

[@moparornocar3764]

As I split it again the clutch plate had slipped a little & wouldn’t let the shaft into the pilot because I tried the alignment tool and it wouldn’t slide in. Next time I tightened the pressure plate evenly and made sure the tool would slide all along through the process. So it is back in the pilot now everything looks good peddle goes down a lot further. I guess it’s in the adjustment now. Going try and adjust it tomorrow.

[@moparornocar3764]

Well I split it again ,three times. This time I’m going to adjust the fingers on the pp. they aren’t being pressed. Seems it isn’t touching the fingers. I’m gona try and tighten them down some to pull the fingers up. Do you know of an easy way to do this , some say 060 not sure where or what to measure. Thanks again.

[@rodarneson399]

I need a new output shaft for my Sherman. Where can I purchase one? Thanks much for your time.

[@Jason1Pa]

I would not recommend a new one. As in my video I was not able to use them. Long story short they are not made very well. Best to find a used one but good luck. Hard to find one in good usable condition.

[@joeriesterer6038]

@@Jason1Pa That's good to know. I will be working on two of them soon and I think one will need an output shaft. I was hoping to use one transmission for my 640 and sell the other. But per your advice I may just try to make one good one out of the two. By the way. Great videos. You have no idea how many people benefit from them.

[@benkanobe7500]

If I couldn't find an 8N with Sherman but a nice original 54 (Jubilee I think they are called.) Is there anything I should know about them that isn't good and should I just stick with an 8N?

[@Jason1Pa]

If it is a 54 it would be known as a model NAA . The Golden Jubilee is a NAA but in 1953 (Fords 50th Anniversary) the NAA is referred to a Golden Jubilee. The only thing different about a 1953 is the emblem that says Golden Jubilee. They are a big improvement over the 8N. First is the overhead valve engine, better hydraulics ,etc.

[@jimwebb9328]

8N hood removal: if you're 6'6" with long arms you can pull it off by hand from the side. One hand under the lip below the dash and the other hand under the front above the grille. Ask me how I know. Removed several that way. But, if you have a hoist, use it!

[@Jason1Pa]

I've seen people remove them by hand and I cringe. The radiator neck takes a beating especially when going back on. Probably why so many are bent. The fuel bowl is naturally at risk of getting beat up as well. Then things such as fuel line or headlight wires can easily be forgotten to get disconnected can be damaged. With the lift I just go a little at a time and watching everything and being gentle. My hat is off to you for being able to even lift a hood by yourself. I physically could not do it plus I wouldn't even try. My back hurts enough as it is. Before my dad and I would remove them by one of us on each side. We don't even mess around anymore. Takes a few minutes to get the hoist out to save us and the tractor.

[@4dan2]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@aarondavis5535]

Sherman transmission as in sherman tank I don't work on tractors normally but been thinking of getting one so what will this do give it more low rang or high rang

[@Jason1Pa]

Yes you have a low and a Hi range with this particular transmission. So normally the tractor would have 4 forward gears and one reverse. You still can use the same gearing (stock) with leaving the Sherman in "Standard" range, but you can have higher gearing and lower. Now the tractor has 12 forward speeds and 3 reverse.

[@dougbeebe5950]

I just came across your video, nice job. Will this unit fit on my 600?

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks! This particular one will not fit your 600,but they have Sherman transmissions for them. The difference is in the input shaft. The N series are 10 spline. Yours is 15 spline.

[@harryrubright6795]

Jason, fantastic two videos on the Sherman combo transmission. Wish all tutorial videos were this good. When the Sherman shifter lever " pops out " onto neutral is their a spring to assist it or do you just push in and pull out to either take it in or out of neutral? Thanks.

[@Jason1Pa]

Thanks Harry!! No spring to assist in shifting. The only springs that are used are the detent springs/balls and they just keep the shifter from popping out of gear.

[@benkanobe7500]

This is a very dumb question from a guy that has wanted one of these tractors for 20 years and I am now able to purchase one and so I am reviewing all the current information I can: Why couldn't you drill a hole directly below the Sherman drain plug that would fit a larger drain plug allowing you access to the Sherman drain plug and the ability to plug the access hole? Am I making sense here?

[@Jason1Pa]

Hi! Yes this question comes up often. Some things to consider are 1) The hole you would need to drill in the tractor to have access to the plug of the Sherman would need to be fairly large to make sure the oil that's being drained exits completely or it could touch the flywheel and get flung all over the clutch. 2) drilling yet another hole even larger then the one for the shifter lever could possibly have a effect on the strength of the casting. 3) You could put a pipe up in there and have it exit the bottom with a cap on it BUT with the tractor so low to the ground it wouldn't take much to break the pipe off one something. The Sherman doesn't really hold that much oil. Even if that oil is nasty it would be diluted fairly good in the fresh 5 gallons of the main transmission. Another thing is if you'd drain the Sherman empty there is no way to add new oil to it. Oil would need to work its way in there with the oil slinger and that could take a while of driving for that to happen. The Sherman would be turning for a while with little to no oil for a while.

[@benkanobe7500]

@@Jason1Pa Dumb me...

[@Jason1Pa]

@@benkanobe7500 The only way to know is to ask. Thanks for watching.

[@kevingaddis7276]

Just a fantastic video. I do have a question, I have an 8n with a funk conversion and a Sherman step up/ down . I don't know the year. Can you tell me where you get all the info you put in your videos.

[@Jason1Pa]

Hi Kevin thank you for the compliment. I've been very passionate about antique tractors (especially Ford) my whole life. I've read so much threw the years,or ask people and what not. I did find a great article that I kind of used as a guideline for this video to make sure I hit all the important stuff. Just Google John Smith Sherman Transmission rebuild. It's on the Ford N Series tractor club website. I'd post a link to it,but it isn't allowing that for some reason. Let me know if you find it? Is your conversion a actual "Funk" and what engine?

[@kevingaddis7276]

@@Jason1Pa Yes Sir. It is a actual Funk with a Ford flathead 6 cylinder 256 cubic inch.

[@born2soon]

How many shims came out? Wouldn't the same amount go back in?

[@Jason1Pa]

@born2soon No, especially with all new bearings. Tolerances change. Plus this transmission came out of another tractor. I didn't do that so had no idea was in it. Had to start from scratch.

[@pablopicaro7649]

Add a hole to original casing below Sherman Drain Plug to reach up and drain?

[@Jason1Pa]

If you keep up with transmission oil changes the little bit that stays in there will hurt nothing. It gets oil from the main transmission there is continually flow of oil going in and out. If you had a hole you wouldn't want it very big because it may start to crack the bell housing. If you had it small just enough the oil would still probably go everywhere before it would go out the hole. Like on you clutch. And if you would drop the plug on the inside good luck getting it out.

[@2ndamendment770]

good job

[@trailrider0194]

A sherman transmission is great in an 8n if you're going to use it for baling hay. Of course an 8n is a little small to pull a baler but they do ok if you are on fairly level ground. I have baled with one but 1st gear is a little fast. Low range in the sherman solves that problem.

[@Jason1Pa]

I'm gonna politely disagree. As much as In love the Ford N series they are not a good choice for doing hay. Other then raking of course. Too fast even with a Sherman. The Sherman really only slows you down a couple mph. It helps,but it is not a solution to the problem.

[@trailrider0194]

@@Jason1Pa You are right. I would never buy an 8n for baling hay but I have been in a situation where I had to bale with an 8n. I installed a shermaqn transmission in a NAA Jubilee years ago and was thinking it slowed it down more. It has been so long ago I really don't remember.

[@Jason1Pa]

@@trailrider0194 Well a Jubilee is slightly geared slower then a 8N. Especially in Reverse. Reverse in a 8N is insane. I can't remember the gear ratio but it is almost exactly the same as 3rd gear.

[@jhandy4161]

Got a couple hundred hours on one of these from my teens to mid twenties.

[@maddog3080]

Why wouldn't you drill a hole in the housing to access the drain plug?

[@Jason1Pa]

I never understood why they never had a way to drain the oil out of it. Somethings to consider would be the hole would need to be fairly large to get easy access to the plug. If you wouldn't be able to grab the plug with your fingers and would drop the plug either getting it in or out it would get lost in there. I guess you could have a small pipe coming threw with a cab. I'd be worried that it would get broke off. Also if it were drained out completely you can't get oil back into it and it takes a while for the oil to find its way in. You'd be running low for a while.

[@tomnovak7731]

@@Jason1Pa and the bottom of the housing right where it is at is not flat, so plugging it would be the next problem.

[@charlesstephenson1352]

Do you have repair for 8n pto won’t stay engaged

[@Jason1Pa]

I don't have a in depth video unfortunately however here are a couple things. You can check. Grab the PTO shaft (tractor off of course and override clutch off) and see if there is any in and out movement. There really shouldn't be any. If there is there could be a bad snap ring,bearing, etc, damaged causing that slop and creating it to jump out of gear. There is also a small spring and ball (detent ball) in the bearing coupler. That is what your PTO lever hooks up too. If that spring or ball is damaged it will be weak and cause it to jump out of gear. Here is a video of the bearing coupler if your not familiar. Fast forward to the 16:40 mark. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2rceoeNeryWmM0si=zJNPUu4OmXx1F_Vd

[@keithwarkentin]

Hi Jason boy I really felt your pain when you realized that nice new shiny input shaft wasn’t going to work I hope you get your money back! Were you able to actually see any thing that was different from the old gears compared to the new shaft? And I want to request something if you can find someone to work the camera for us . Could you give a demonstration how low or how slow you go at about 1500 RPM in the lowest gear I would really appreciate it but if you don’t want to don’t worry about it! Thanks Jason keep on trucking!!

[@Jason1Pa]

Hi Keith! I actually did record the difference in speed,but decided to edit it out. One reason is to keep the video length down,but there is no noticeable difference. I'm very disappointed to be honest. According to GPS there is only about 1 mph difference in low range vs. standard. Granite I only did the test at idle and in reverse. One of my main reasons for all of this was to slow the insane reverse speed,but like I said there is not a big difference. In high range it's almost too high. Going down the road it needs to be wide open the whole time or it starts to bog the engine down. I'm going to test it some more just to see if it will even pull the slightest of hills.

[@Jason1Pa]

The new shaft was exactly identical except for the teeth. The very tip of the teeth on the new shaft came to a point. Where as the original has about 1/16 flat area. I raised a question before I saw it but decided to try. I even wonder if the teeth are at a very slightly different angle? I don't know,but I do know it sounded terrible just rotating it by hand. Unfortunately I was 4 days past the return policy for the shaft. I now have a expensive paperweight/conversation piece to keep on my desk. 😆

[@keithwarkentin]

Well don’t sweat it I have taken major losses on every project I undertook thanks for getting back to me and I wanted to say that was a cool idea to split the old girl with the adjustable landing gear always lots to learn and I also love that hat and shirt you were wearing!

[@Jason1Pa]

@@keithwarkentin Oh yeah there are always losses in every project. Just move on. Anymore the moment you buy tires or rebuild a engine your at a loss if you'd want to sell it. You'd never get your money back. I never sell, I just enjoy the hobby. Yes the jacks seem to be a big hit. They sure make it easier and safer.

[@tomnovak7731]

@@Jason1Pa in guessing you checked it, but is the overall OD of the output gear identical to the OEM gear? It may have been that it just needed a little time in a chuck with a file or some emery paper. Being the project is buttoned upon sure we'll never know, but in the off chance you ever have it out again... 😉 Great video all around. Thanx for sharing!

[@terryhiggins9700]

Thank you

[@Jason1Pa]

Your welcome

[@jerrymoore7669]

Where did you get the attachment on the 3 point lift?

[@Jason1Pa]

Tractor Supply. It is their trailer mover. Has a gooseneck ball on top and a receiver on the bottom for whatever kind of hitch you want to use

[@JosephGorsuch-nb9ii]

Why couldn’t you drill another hole and tap it with for a pipe plug under the Sherman plug ?

[@Jason1Pa]

If you keep up with the maintenance on oil changes leaving that little bit of oil in the transmission is no big deal. If you were to drain it out there is no way to fill it with fresh oil. Then you would need to rely on the oil slinger to get oil back into the Sherman from the main transmission. That could take a little while to get full and I wouldn't want to run it around with little to no oil until it would fill up. Also the hole you'd need to make would need to be rather large to make sure the oil draining out wouldn't make a mess and get inside the bell housing and possibly getting on the clutch. Getting the Sherman's plug back in would be interesting working through a small hole in the bell housing. And if you'd drop it, it would lay inside the bell housing with no way to retrieve it. If you'd make the hole too big to eliminate these issues I'd be concerned if possibly having cracks develop later on.

[@doylerabjohn3435]

Great video. I need to borrow your trailer jacks idea, & Now I need Sherman...a Howard would be better.

[@Jason1Pa]

Shermans are hard enough to get parts for. Howards are even harder. Plus the Howards are known to be a little on the fragile side.

[@doylerabjohn3435]

@@Jason1Pa Thanks, I didn't know about the fragile.

[@GuntersGarage]

That was really interesting to watch. I had no idea there was a secondary transmission available. Ive mentioned before the high reverse gear in my 8N makes it unpleasant to work with. I hope to do a full restoration on it in the next year or so. Nothing wrong with being picky. Ive fell down the rabbit hole before on projects. It sucks but in the long run its satisfying. Shows a lot about character and workmanship holding a higher standard. Any tips for finding a Sherman for mine?

[@Jason1Pa]

It is a pretty fascinating thing if you stop and think about it. As far as finding one they are out there especially if you post a want add someplace. The problem is there is a lot of junk ones out there. They arn't cheap and to get into a full blown out rebuild can be frustrating and expensive. Especially finding parts that are no longer available. You'd almost need to but several and use parts to make one good. I'm gonna be honest. I was very disappointed to find out that low range only slowed down the reverse about 1 mph at idle according to GPS. You can hardly feel the difference. As far as high range I'm going to do dome more test runs with it,but right now it may be too high of a gear for the little 4 cylinder flathead. I'm wondering if the slightest of hills will bog it down too much that it will be almost useless? You'd never be able to pull anything that is for sure. Tractor only. So basically if a tractor doesn't already have one that is in tip top shape I'd never go threw the expense of putting one in again. I don't feel I gained a whole lot.

[@GuntersGarage]

@@Jason1Pa thats not surprising at all to hear. Such is the life in hot rods, motorcycles etc. Spend a bunch of time and money and get little noticeable gain sometimes, lol. Good video tho!

[@Jason1Pa]

@@GuntersGarage yeah it was still a interesting experience and made a good video. I'd like to drive a newer Ford such as a 800 model or newer to see how that would be. Twice as much power I think would be a game changer.

[@GuntersGarage]

@@Jason1Pa we had a Jubilee when I was a kid and a few years ago I had a 1964 2000 series which is basically a blue Jubilee and I dont recall ever having that fast of reverse gear. The hydraulics were way better with the engine driven pump.

[@Jason1Pa]

@@GuntersGarage If I remember correctly the Jubilee has a different counter shaft so the reverse is probably slower. Some things are the same on a 8N somethings are different vs. Jubilee. I believe the rear ends are the same,but swapping transmissions between the two won't work.

[@gusdevries6037]

Are there any modifications to make hydraulic and pto live ?

[@Jason1Pa]

There was a Sherman Live PTO conversion however they are extremely rare. I've never seen one or know anyone that has one. As far as making the lift arms live hydraulic no. Some people will put a external pump that runs off the crankshaft and a loader or rear remote can be used. Pretty hard to do that and make it look nice and neat. Most look like hack jobs.

[@jongeddes09]

@@Jason1Pa The big disadvantage to the crank driven auxiliary pump is that it's constantly robbing horsepower on a tractor that doesn't have much to work with already.

[@davidshipulski4532]

Are you using an original radiator on that? Also would you recommend the 4 blade of 6 blade fan? Thanks

[@Jason1Pa]

The radiator is a Sparex brand replacment. They are the only ones I'll use on a Ford. Very good quality and fit like the originals. Also has 4 rows of cooling tubes like the originals. Most replacements have only 3. The 8Ns came with 4 bladed fans. The 9N and 2Ns had 6 blades. I don't see an advantage using 6 as far as cooling goes. As long as you have a clean radiator and up to par cooling system you will be fine. It is very hard to over heat these engines. A 4 blade wouldn't weigh as much. Would probably be less stress on the water pump. To me the 6 blades make a little more air noise as well.

[@davidshipulski4532]

@@Jason1Pa Great thank you! Ive got the original but its got some damage from previous owner. Can i get it from just 8ns? They have one thats 4 tube style. I think they use Sparex but not sure. Thanks for all your help. Just got my 8n split today. Your videos are making me confident splitting it lol..

[@Jason1Pa]

@@davidshipulski4532 Yes Just8ns,Dennis Carpenter,Fix that Ford.com sell the Sparex brand. They are also known as "Restoration Quality" ones. Anymore I just replace my radiators if possible. The cost of getting them record has gone very high. That's if you can find a local place. Kind of a lost art. Glad your gaining confidence! Thanks for watching!

[@davidshipulski4532]

@@Jason1Pa Awesome! Thanks so much take care.

[@Jason1Pa]

@@davidshipulski4532 Anytime!! Have fun.

[@breakandfix]

Where do you find the shims at anyone know?????

[@Jason1Pa]

You can buy them from someone parting out a tractor. I save them from other projects. You can also buy shim stock and make your own. That can get expensive though.

[@coburnlowman]

I realize an N series isn't a power house. What are the chances of one of these transmissions holding up behind the engine of an M or super MD Farmall????? Would it be a waste of machining time to put one of these in a big Farmall? I'd love to have an over / under drive for an M , super MD. If anyone has better options I'm open for suggestions. M&W stuff has gotten way too pricey, as well as too scarce.

[@Jason1Pa]

There is no way you could get a Sherman to fit into a Farmall M.

[@coburnlowman]

@@Jason1Pa I can get it to mate mate up , no problem. But is it tough enough to handle the load?

[@Jason1Pa]

@@coburnlowman I don't want to sound like a Negative Nancy, but there is no way a Sherman is going to match up to a M in anyway. The input shaft is way to small and short. The output shaft is designed to mesh with the helical cut gear inside the Fords transmission and a Ms are straight cut gears. The little Sherman would be lost inside the bell housing of a M. How would you mount it to the front of a M transmission there are no holes or a flat enough mounting surface to even to begin using some kind of a adapter plate. The belly pump would have to go as well. To answer your question though No I don't think a Sherman is going to handle double the amount of horsepower for what it was designed for especially if you were working it. To be honest I feel there are some weak points to it that aren't strong enough even for the Fords.

[@coburnlowman]

@@Jason1Pa I would simply build mounts inside the M bell housing to hold the Sherman. Would mate the output with the input M shaft. I have a good machine shop. Have been thinking about using a Saganaw 3speed box and re cutting all the gears for this purpose. Like out of an 60-80's pickup to go the bell housing. I just know were a couple of Shermans are for a decent price. As far as the belly pumps , I've already dumped them. I've made wide front axles. I put the axles below the frame as well , and dumped the M front steering thingy. That way I drive a modern pump off the crankshaft. It allows a mddern loader to be ran or whatever. Use a truck steering sector mounted below the gas tank. I wanna do a Cummins 4B swap and the extra Over Under gearing should have enough power that it'll do everything I'll ever need at just over idle throttle. Save major on fuel. I found a 4B with built in industrial governor. Also have a black diesel homemade setup in the back of the barn that I Usta run old 6.9 and 7.3 International Harvesters on. Still run a couple of smaller tractors on it. Wrote this without my glasses. If typos. I couldn't see what I was writing

[@kennyc8823]

What do you know of the Sherman live PTO pinion clutch??

[@Jason1Pa]

I've never messed with one. 😞 Sorry

[@kennyc8823]

@@Jason1Pa Thanks anyway! I want to fit a modern equivalent to my tractor to have a live pto.

[@Jason1Pa]

@@kennyc8823 I've never heard of anything modern to give you live PTO. Live hydraulics are possible but you need a external pump such. The Sherman Live PTO is extremely rare and almost possible to find. What would you be doing for the need of Live PTO so much? Just curious.

[@kennyc8823]

@@Jason1Pa I want to add a 5 foot snowblower on the back.

[@Jason1Pa]

@@kennyc8823 The problem is the speed with reverse even with a Sherman it will be too fast. I understand you'd be able to stop and let it catch up but you'll be constantly clutching. Unless you have a sentimental attachment to the tractor get rid of it and upgrade. It will be so much easier. Just my 2 cents.

[@calebmahala4263]

Can anyone tell me why my 53 jubilee leaks milky oil from the weep hole at the fly wheel and under belly possible seal?

[@Jason1Pa]

Milky oil is moisture in the oil. More then likely your input shaft transmission seal is leaking. Transmissions are prone to get condensation in them. If you'd have that much milky oil leaking out of the engine then there are more issues then just a leaking crankshaft seal.

[@calebmahala4263]

@@Jason1Pa know where to get a seal kit?

[@Jason1Pa]

@@calebmahala4263 Just8ns.com or Dennis Carpenter is who I deal with when getting parts for a Ford. No kit. Simply get a seal and a gasket separately

[@gregpratt6926]

Thanks very nice walk though

[@Jason1Pa]

@@gregpratt6926 Thanks for watching!

[@johnwinkelman1764]

Gotta check the spline make sure you buy the correct one for your tractor

[@Jason1Pa]

Correct. For example the hundred series Fords are a different spline then the N series.

[@dennisberghorn9512]

Fill the Sherman trans w oil before installing it ✨️

[@Jason1Pa]

I did. At 27:13 minute mark.

[@vitov1175]

how much does a gearbox cost

[@Jason1Pa]

Depends on condition. I'd say on average $300 to $500. If it needs repairs it could cost another $300 to $500

[@vitov1175]

@@Jason1Pa how do you check the oil

[@Jason1Pa]

@@vitov1175 It gets oil from the main transmission. It's continually churning oil in and out of the Sherman

[@snakebite2841]

👍👍

[@captainkelldiggs5856]

Have you considered doing a Flat head V8 conversion next? I think there is an easy one out there. Would be interesting to see how much better the classics can be than the more modern tractors😁

[@Jason1Pa]

Yes I have been studying V8 builds for years. There are kits available however I do not care for them. The main reason is the hood would need raised and lengthened. The kits give you a piece to bolt to the dash to do that,but I do not care for the look. I would prefer to use a 60 hp flathead conversion where the engine is small enough you can use the original hood and no modifications need to be done to it. It's kind of hard to find a 60 hp one through. I haven't really looked real hard though. It would take the right tractor too. If I'd find one that the original engine was completely junk but the rest of the tractor had good bones I'd attempt it.

[@bryanmartin2271]

If you're tires were 12-4 -28 she would run faster but i like the 11-2-28 myself good videos many thanks

[@Jason1Pa]

Yes. I have another ford with brand new 12.4x28 on it. Sometimes I wished they were not on there. Pros and cons to it.

[@johnnymcclurg9672]

I am currently making a adapter to put a 460 engine on my 1950 tractor

[@Jason1Pa]

Nice!! I've seen some pretty wild creations threw the years

[@MrJeep75]

My grandfather put one of these in his 48 8n and hated it

[@Jason1Pa]

Honestly I wouldn't do another one. The only thing I like is it will go faster down the road.

[@whspioneer89]

Should’ve put the flathead V8 conversion in at the same time

[@Jason1Pa]

I don't like how the hoods look after that. Unless it's a 60hp one and the hood doesn't need altered

[@randallcarney1216]

You would need to replace the gear it meshes with a new one.

[@Jason1Pa]

The new teeth were REALLY far off. The original shaft and the original Sherman shafts teeth have perfect mesh.

[@bugbomb8048]

So I take it these do not work with the Ferguson’s …? btw….You’re as great of a no nonsense A/V producer as a mechanic ….!

[@Jason1Pa]

No they will not unfortunately. Thanks for the compliment. Some say I talk to much,but I always like to share as much as I can.

[@MrJeep75]

What the point are these

[@Jason1Pa]

Just to give you a wide range of gear ratios. You can now go slower and faster then the original transmission. The tractor started out at 4 forward speeds and one reverse. Now it has 12 forward speeds and 3 reverse speeds

[@Electric-Bob]

Man, wish I had a lower gear than 1st Gear on my 8N! Fords 1st Gear is too Fast!! Cannot Work all the Hand Controls to do a Good Job!!! A Lower/Slower Gear/Speed would be Great.

[@Jason1Pa]

Sadly the Shermans still don't slow it down enough. It's only about 1 mph difference when low range according to GPS. It's hardly noticeable. I got it mainly to go faster down the road. I never have a issue with 1st gear but reverse is crazy in most situations.

[@CaptYellow331]

Sherman???

[@Jason1Pa]

Yes