Why everyone HATES this 85mm Sony lens

[@JonathanCollinGreene]

I unsubscribed to your channel because I found myself buying way more gear than I need instead of really pushing and getting to know the gear I had. Nothing against you, I just found that I needed to stop window shopping with gear channels. You just won me back. This video has the type of measured honesty and insight I wish was more common in the KZbin gear space. Sure, many people will throw in a line here and there about being fiscally responsible but it feels more like a disclaimer on the side of a cigarette box. I had the fortune to get the 50mm 1.2 early on when I moved from Fuji to Sony. When I don’t need reach, it is my everything lens. FMO is so real. We’ve all made images that we love with cheaper gear. (Like the cannon ef 50 1.8 and the magical ef 85 1.8)Thank you for making more than camera and lens commercials on KZbin.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

that is fair! thanks for your honestly.

[@dominicsteele5971]

That’s your problem not his isn’t it?

[@JonathanCollinGreene]

@@dominicsteele5971 Yes. I actually said that in the comment I made. What's YOUR problem?

[@Donbros]

Are u from us?

[@Nata-ch2bk]

@@dominicsteele5971 He states very good points though. The big film making channels are all about sponsored content and selling you products these days, more than about making interesting content about filmmaking itself. Even when it's a video that, at first, seems like it's going to talk about something interesting regarding film making, you realize at some point that the video topic was only there to serve as an opportunity for product placement and sponsorship which is the main reason the video was produced to begin with. I realise that KZbinrs need to make a living (as content creators), but the sad consequence of that is that we (as content consumers) end up viewing a sequence of product advertisements

[@Yotengri]

Just bought the Sony 85 mm GM II.A beast of a lens.Nerver regret it!

[@MikePlayDrums]

“This lens isn’t for everyone” is the best way to say it. I’m a semi-pro who does photography and videography part time on the side…I have a 50 1.2 for portraits and I have the 70-200 GMII if I need more reach. This lens isn’t for me but that doesn’t mean it’s bad.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

ooof. Two good lenses you have there

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Great Video, I’ve just bought the FX30 after watching so many of your videos on it. The f1.4 for me isn’t a problem because I honestly don’t this in the final product of a picture or video anyone would really be able to tell by eye “oh that’s an f1.4” I would actually take the smaller, lighter and cheaper 1.4 over a more expensive, bigger and heavier 1.2

[@noth606]

Eh, do you think that is the argument? That someone can tell? Well, it's not. But what people get stuck on is min/maxing everything, which means they are comparing things on paper and in some cases at the extreme, and ignoring practical considerations as well as price. Those are the same people who would absolutely insist on going for the FX3 instead of the FX30 for example. To them it doesn't matter that the Fx3 is a much harder camera to work with in many ways, and not really just "better" than the Fx30 in some way.

[@neutrinostorm]

Thank you for this real, objective, honest video!

[@The_Essential_Light]

There is not enough bokeh difference in 1.4 and 1.2 to justify the increase in size, weight and price.

[@JojoJoget]

Having your eyelashes OOF isn’t special character

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

quite true

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

If you can't find value in f1.2 vs 1.4 (2/3rd extra stop of light) then yes it isn't for you, but for the people who can use it and understand that its not just a bokeh difference, its a usable distance difference, and light gathering action freezing difference, a cropping in and still getting beautiful OOF areas difference. People like me love our F1.2s over a F1 4 because we know what to do with it. Its why I'vw been using my 85mm F1.2 for years and absolutely loving it! Won't got back to a F1.4 for any reason because qt the end of the day its the pictures and what you capture that matters, not just a few lbs.

[@RobBibby]

The amount of light makes a huge difference to me a sports shooter. less about bokeh, more about how fast it is

[@sidvicious3129]

Jason, you slayed this topic, absolutely killed it. I’m tired of seeing test charts and even talking about loca or even chromatic aboration, in general. These videos need to show these lenses used in actual environments and I don’t think Sony needs the 1.2 because in actual testing, a f.4 vs f1.2 differences are almost a wash. We have gotten so caught up in numbers and specs and have forgotten to talk about the art of photography and videography. It’s not just the You Tubers fault, but the analytics, which is a direct reflection on us the viewer because we are telling You Tubers that we aren’t interested unless you all are talking about gear and trying to sell it either consciously or unconsciously. Sony has to slowly replace their lenses because Nikon and Canon have caught up and surpassed them in the actual quality of the glass if you think about when some of these GM lenses were introduced. I have had the opportunity to shoot with an Canon R3 and I will tell you it is a beautiful camera and the lens, which cost an arm and leg are gorgeous, but I’m too invested in Sony and Canon’s third party support is practically nonexistent. I love my Sony 135mm f1.8 GM as my favorite GM lens because I have used it in the field and I know it is like a sniper with autofocus, but it will need to be eventually replaced by Sony if they want to stay competitive. Using this equipment at a wedding, portrait shoot event or a video shoot lets you know what a system-lens and camera are made of. Thanks Jason for saying the truth, every camera, lens or other gear isn’t for everyone and that is indeed okay.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

thanks for commenting. I hope those keyboard warriors took away the "it isn't for everyone" quote haha

[@andrewthomascliftonvisuals]

Thank you for your vision and honesty Jason, i admire what you do and your lenses even if I never plan to use a sony lens outside of work where its tested before it even gets to me. Your passion for your craft and drive is everything. We cannot expect people who don’t actually do professional work to test it professionally. Most of these people on youtube only work on youtube and dont have any idea what a professional job feels like outside of this platform…. And thats ok. We know who actually does the work and can actually offer advice and reviews in work environment versus test charts and backyard work. Theres a place for both and thats beautiful. I watch some of those reviews just to pass the time or on days when i dont feel like investing time in the more professional creatives on here. Im glad you got it off your chest, and hope you dont let this sit on you at all. We are all so different and all so beautiful just as we are :) enjoy the blue skies

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

I agree. but If you're testing a portrait lens for review it seems as though there should be a portrait style shoot of some sorts to really review it, not just a lens chart and outdoor blades of grass. There is a place for everyone's review but if you're wanting to stand out from the crowd you have to reach above and beyond basic "reviews"

[@andrewthomascliftonvisuals]

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema that word “review” has been as misshapen by social media as the word “friend”. You and I know and agree on the concept of actual reviews for actual usage in the actual world… but they will never. They’re just happy to be in echo chambers of fantasy, and so they are. I just tune them out and leave them to their own fantasies. We all deserve to find joy and wholeness even if its a lie.

[@cameraprepper7938]

I do not hate the Sony 85mm 1.4 GM II, it is a very fine Lens, but I do not need the aperture 1.4 for a 85mm Lens ! I use the excellent Zeiss Batis Sonnar T* which I got last year used for US $550 (taxes included) in excellent condition. The Zeiss Batis 85mm is light weight and it handles very well, I can highly recommend it ! I have the Sony 135mm 1.8 GM, which have outstanding image quality, but it is big and heavy, last year I went through most of my best image taken with the Sony 135mm 1.8 GM, most of the image was taken at aperture 5.6, some with 4.0 and less with 2.8 or 8.0, only rare with 1.8, 2.0 or 2.5 and those 1.8 did not always look pleasing ! So now when I have the excellent Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 110mm 2.5, which is more compact and light weight than the Sony 135mm, I rarely use the Sony, only sometimes for Landscape when I have the Lens in my car. I think that I will get the much more light weight Zeiss Apo Sonnar 135mm 2.8 T* Lens when I have spare money for it ! So my advice are, do not got for those big and bulky lenses with large apertures, you do not need them, they are much too over hyped !!! I have 45 years of experience both as a professional and as a hobby photographer.

[@LMActionsports]

I don’t understand why people are hating on it either. Everyone has been complaining that they need to come out with a revised copy. But since it’s not the 85 f1.2 gm they are mad. Oh well can’t make everyone happy. I think Sony’s biggest mistake was when Sigma came out with the 85 f1.4 DG DN and it was so much better than the old 85 gm the should have come out with a new version then. Now we all bought the Sigma 85 dg DN and it’s so good for portraits and it does great for video and my action shots I do with my senior pictures. I don’t feel the need to upgrade.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

yeah that sigma 85 art lens really offers a tonne of value

[@junglisttt]

Love your take on how people ”test” these lenses in their video reviews. I always skip those boring ass sharpness tests to the conclusion part anyway. Keep up the good work💥👊💯

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

sharpness tests are fine and useful but testing a professional lens without testing it professionally is mind blowing

[@ImagineAkira]

Man, I’ve caught your videos here and there on gear I was interested in, but this video is the one that got me to sub. This is the brutal honesty we all crave in the curious gear KZbin space. Well done man, great work, and thank you 🙏🏼. Now, I sit back and wait for Sony to release an 85 GM f1.2 for another 10 more years 🤣🤣🤣. Jk jk. I agree, my 50 GM 1.2 works perfectly fine.

[@stevesvanderpool8653]

Great explainer! Majority who bough 50mm 1.2 first will not go back to the 50 1.4. Many folks like myself who will purchase this lens will move up to the 1.2 when that time comes. It's a business decision 😡

[@joystech3048]

@sony zv e10 here $580 body And a6600 $695 body Fuji film x-t3 $780 body Which would be better overall ?. I need good for 5-6 year long term , learning beginner cinematography. I am tight on budget so the 23mm f1.4 viltrox and 30mm f1.4 sigma would be good for starting ? Prefer to capture in night

[@Jonathantuba]

I quite agree with this video and people moaning about the new lens being an F1.4 and not F1.2. If they are that desperate for an F1.2, then why not just go and buy a Canon or Nikon? I am quite happy Sony bringing out new 85 F1.4 - it is the lens I have been waiting and I ordered within an hour of the announcement. In my 60’s, I am fed up with carrying around unnecessarily heavy lenses, but I still want to take high quality images and for me this new 85 will be perfect. Will the ⅓ stop less light worry? No, the image bokeh is made most by the relationship between subject and background distances and by composing appropriately I will get just as wonderful bokeh with a lens half the weight

[@adamginsburg9909]

Boomer take

[@JojoJoget]

Sony probably looked at Canon’s and Nikon’s 85/f1.2 sales and thought it would be dumb

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

I do hope sony make an f/1.2 85mm lens just to keep those people quiet

[@TW-iu9zy]

… great lens for me as journalist, get my 85 GM II tomorrow. 😀

[@danielzliu]

Fantastic video, appreciate your insight. Who is the guy in your CrossFit spec ad? What an absolute BEAST!

[@joe2snj]

LOVE how you have edited the video. I for one can't wait to get my hands the 85mm f1.4 GM II, will complete my holy trinity of primes.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

nice! it really is a nice lens specially compared to the Mark I. I'd have it if i didn't get the Mark I

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

Thank you. Great on topic video and reflects my opinion. I for one want the smaller size and faster AF even though I don’t shoot sports anymore. I want a lens I’m willing to take with me and I have both the 50/1.2 and now the 50/1.4 for that reason. Take care.

[@djrease7354]

If the F1.2 was released I’d buy 2 of them … one for use and the other as a mint collection.. I don’t care if it’s twice as heavy or as large.. I want the heavier larger diameter glass for photography work…if it needs to be bigger than canon then great…I’ll use a mono pod..The buttery images are worth it as a photographer.. Everyone that bought the sigma 85mm 1.4 will just keep the sigma.. why not … Especially if you already have the 50mm F1.2..the 85mm F1.4 GM II was a mistake.. they should have released the 85mm F1.2 first like the 50mm f1.2 to compete with sigma.. Sad but good that we are getting some action from Sony..Waiting for the F1.2 monster which will be Sony’s best prime lens ever… and they know it… lol

[@Donbros]

100%

[@rumorscameras]

We use 85 1.4 sigma for shorts. It fits the s reen and the size of the room 🎉

[@A1000Truths]

Good video man. I’ve been toying w/ getting the Sigma 50mm F1.2 but after renting it felt it was so large and didn’t have many situations where O felt I needed F1.2. Weight is a big deal in wanting to use a piece of gear or carrying it. Good video.

[@BehindTheNeedle]

“I don’t care about the size.” Many of us do care, and most of us spend less time lifting weights than you. I did a run and gun session yesterday using the Sony A7S2 and the Sony 24-50mm 2.8. I absolutely love the smaller and lighter setup!

[@Wildridefilms]

It's not that this 85mm f1.4 ii is a bad lens. It's excellent. The issue is that there isn't an option for those who want an 85mm f1.2.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

there hopefully will be. I think they just had to fix the mark I first.

[@tokekkk]

You do not need 85mm f/1.2 none of us need f/1.2

[@SimplestUsername]

Imo, 85mm is the ideal headshots focal length. With an f1.2 85mm, it'd pretty much be parked at f1.8 to maintain detail in the face.

[@Wildridefilms]

@@tokekkk I clearly stated "want". I shoot on MFT. I couldn't give less of a shit about extremely shallow DOF.

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

​​@@tokekkk If you can't find value in f1.2 vs 1.4 (2/3rd extra stop of light) then yes it isn't for you, but for the people who can use it and understand that its not just a bokeh difference, its a usable distance difference, and light gathering action freezing difference, a cropping in and still getting beautiful OOF areas difference. People like me love our F1.2s over a F1 4 because we know what to do with it. Its why I'vw been using my 85mm F1.2 for years and absolutely loving it! Won't got back to a F1.4 for any reason because at the end of the day its the pictures and what you capture that matters, not just a few lbs.

[@momohmart]

That athlete is fire! Most KZbinrs who get early product do very minimal and pretty biased testing. I like petapixel guys, lee kavitz will actually take portraits in the field. Gripe: Can't stand youtubers who say Sony or such and such company sent me this, but they haven't seen my review, have no input, etc. YES THEY DO. Otherwise, they'll stop sending products & the youtubers' review channels won't have content.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

yeah he is a beast that's for sure

[@rhalfik]

This lens and Sigma are very similar. This is a problem for many people. I personally would get Sigma. I spent a lot of time looking at reviews, especialle the ones showing MTF charts. Sony and Sigma come up on top with their fast primes. Sigma and Sony 50 mm 1.2 are the best in the game. People seem to be bored with technicalities and now want to have lenses that make them emotional. There is also a problem with vignetting going over 3 EV, that people overlook. IDK, I think we're just in the retro hype period, so the usual marketing doesn't work on people and they want wacky stuff.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

sigma 85mm offers better value. Sony lens just offers the ability to have the full complete set and decent resale value

[@DCMedien]

Not to mention a more reliable AF and better compatibility with the cam. I used sigma and samyang, and with both lenses the camera freezes sometimes, and i have to take the battery out. It's a rare case but i had this problem a couple times. ​@@JasonMorrisphotocinema

[@ubeydecemilylmaz5362]

hello jason Can you tell me which brand the part you used to install the DJI lidar finder in this video belongs to? Or can anyone who sees this tell me?

[@Donbros]

I mean if the price of this is this then imagine the price of 1.2 😢

[@Valleedbrume]

Point well made.

[@Sqeezy3]

I have Sony 85 f/1.8 and recently bought 70-200 GM II. I don't mind that the aperture isn't f2.8. I like a little bit of the background presence.

[@Mac39Ryan]

Nice job 👊

[@triedge6200]

maybe add a HP Filter lot of lowend pops around 100-200 hz

[@Gold-Horse]

I agree totally with you.. I sold my 50mm GM f 1.2 and replace it who is the GM50mm 1.4.. it is amazing sharp light and low light beast..

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

yeah honestly barely a difference there

[@marleenvandam6931]

Most hate this lens because they can't afford it!They want to stick to their sigma 85mm.Fair enough.

[@foxtowercommunications]

Did I miss something? When did Sony announce that they will not be making an 85mm f1.2?

[@stanleystevens6278]

Sony should have made an 85mm f0.95 with image stabilization. That ahould shut everyone up except for those who miss bicep days.

[@Creative.visionzz]

Love the shot comp man🔥🔥

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

thank you!

[@jasonblack2460]

I shot with the Canon 85 1.2 and it was too big and heavy for a prime. Big lenses just aren’t practical for gimbal work or traveling. I picked the Sony GM 50 1.4 over the 50 1.2 just because I can run and gun a lot easier while saving $600. One would imagine the sales to 1.2 lenses probably aren’t as profitable if Sony is making 1.4s to their 1.2 50 as well.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

thanks for sharing your experience.

[@frankfeng2701]

If Sony released this f/1.4 GM2 two years ago, people wouldn't have complained as much. In comparison, there are two 50GM lenses. That's why people now expects 85mm f/1.2. If they want to compactness, why haven't they updated 85 1.8?

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Unfortunately there will always people who complain about the lenses they won't even buy for isn't designed for them

[@frankfeng2701]

​@@JasonMorrisphotocinema To be fair, some complaints are legit and should be heard by the manufacturer.

[@happy030]

For the Dimension, I prefer The Sony 85mm 1.4 GM II over the huge and heavy Nikon 1.2

[@Bo_Hazem]

The fanboy inside me wants the 85mm f1.2 while 99% I won't buy it, but I understand that they need to update the 85mm f1.4 GM first before jumping into f1.2 which will make people mad about a $2.8K USD lens first.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

I do hope Sony make an f/1.2 lens. It will definitely be around the 2.8k mark for sure haha

[@djrease7354]

I’ll buy 2 😂

[@Bo_Hazem]

@@djrease7354 I won't buy it due to being too expensive for my current budget and still expanding my camera bodies. But as a pro portrait photographer the 85mm f1.2 should be the first to get!

[@DCMedien]

Thank you for that. I read so much BS about that lens, it's insane.. Why no 1.2? Why so expensive? Why does the AF matter? And more like that. For me, I just don't want a 1.2, and was waiting for this lens like forever.. The first generation wasn't usable for me, because I don't shoot portraits only. Ever tried to catch a running kid with bad AF? Yeah.

[@marcgilles4520]

Great footage as always.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

thank you!

[@fairyj8600]

This lens is definitely for me. I’ve always been a fan of the 85mm. I currently have the 85 1.8 but it’s not keeping up with fast moving subjects like my 70-200 GM ii. I wanted a GM 85 but I couldn’t convince myself buying something that’s 8 years old.

[@phoenixvette]

Sony makes medium format sensors, perhaps thats why their smaller E mount makes sense. Look at all the nice compact options Sony has. I think if you want more bokeh than 1.4 you should consider Fuji medium format or wait for Sony to enter that field. The new Black magic cameras with the IMAX sensor show it's the natural next step to move to medium format and continue developing full frame global shutter sensors.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

f/1.2 vs 1.4 really isn't that different. internet keyboard warriors complaining and not artists

[@stefan_becker]

It's an amazing lens. But for me the Sigma 85mm f1.4 DG DN is good enough at half the price.

[@Jmarzphotography]

The cry babies are crying over it not being 1.2 . Spoiled brats. I heard it’s a great lens

[@sarmedozil4060]

I think the Sigma 85mm 1.4 dg dn is still the best option. Incredible quality and same weight as the new Sony’s 85

[@kingdom001_]

It doesn't allow for breathing compensation for video

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Definitely a great option

[@devklepacki]

Great take!

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

thank you

[@DevonLad]

With each new lens, the sharpness increases so much, they start to feel 'clinical'. I'm a wedding photographer and the very best thing about the first Sony 85mm f1.4 is it doesn't feel as clinically sharp as all the rest. There is a lovely softer side to the lens. It's sharp enough without being clinical. The old 85mm is my goto lens for this reason. I don't think I'll be switching. I'll miss the better auto focus, but I'll take that because the old 85mm is still such a lovely lens for weddings.

[@ridzbaha618]

same problems but there's where diffusion filter comes to action , much flattering look

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

yeah for sure. Super sharp lenses. We just need to choose the lens for the right situation really

[@julianfoglietti]

My one request, more than a f/1.2 is that it should’ve had the same filter thread as the 24, 35, and 50 1.4

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

I am not 100% sure if that would be possible. going from 77mm to 67mm might be difficult with vignetting as the front elements are quite large

[@RandumbTech]

Biggest disappointment for me was that they weren't able to make it 67mm filter thread. I get it, physics and whatnot, but it would have been sick to have 24-35-50-85 GM primes all with 67. You know what lens does have 67 - the 85/1.8 - and that's the one I bought.

[@matrixate]

It's not crap. I think people looking for an Sony 85GM, have 2 options. Soft and sharp. Personally, both are necessary. Am I switching? Heck no. It's a portrait lens. You want skin softer, not sharper. People asking for f1.2 know it would be bigger, and we're still asking. I read they are working on an 85 f1.2, however, I don't trust the source. Still...being hopeful.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

I hope they do release an f/1.2 85mm lens. It will provide that lens for that crowd and for the rest it will give another point to complain about when it's $2800 USD or more

[@stevofoo]

1.2 is coming, don’t worry, old 1.4 is too old, need to upgrade first.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

yeah it quite overdue for this upgrade

[@lukabalta2398]

I honestly belive no one thinks or belived they would pay 1k more for 1.2, its because a sony hater said sony 85 sucks and 1.2 is much better and herd mentality gathers so fast lately its crazy. i have sony 35mm 1.4 and cant imagine how can lens get much better. it has focus breathing its true, but almost all lens do or some other imperfections its just because someone online points a finger at it so many follow right away without any trying out or research

[@fishfighter2]

Talks about size and weight, laughs in Canon 85mm 1.2 L original....

[@BrazilPhillyCapoeira]

For me it’s just the price point.its over priced, should have been $1400-1500 keep it in range of the 24/35/50 1.4 lenses

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

it is the same price as the original. Technically if you factor in cost of living it is cheaper than what were were offered with the Mark I. Price is on point with other GM primes.

[@BrazilPhillyCapoeira]

@@JasonMorrisphotocinemayes and the gm 1 was over priced as well. The 85 1.8 slapped the gm considering it was a 1/3 of the price.

[@richarddzisiewski7197]

I've gotta say that I've had no issues with this lens and therefore might be in the minority. Now I haven't compared it to the mkii yet and will definitely have a look when It comes out as the mki is heavy and as I'm getting older lightness matters !!

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

For photography it is great. With video it really shows its age quite immediately with auto focus. The newer Sony camera's auto focus is almost too fast for the lens to catch up

[@richarddzisiewski7197]

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema oh will defiantly have a look as we all like new shiny things!! nice piece as always

[@GatmanVidz]

me looking for all 2 photographers that shoot at f1.2

[@Donbros]

Try it on a1 and a7siii 3:56

[@nothingtobeconcernedabout7477]

For me the price is the issue. While in dollar it stayed the same price, here in Europe the new GM2 costs 300 euros more than the RRP opf the GM1. On top of it the old GM1 you can get new reliably for 1500 euros with sales and rebates. So the the new GM2 costs 600 more than the GM1 and literally double what the sigma costs. Also the new GM2 costs just 200 less than the 50 1.2 GM. So the GM2 realistically has nearly the price of a 1.2 prime.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Yeah I think that is a EU issue. It is the same with a lot of electronics

[@nothingtobeconcernedabout7477]

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Yes, but I think the increase on the GM2 is higher than on other lenses that get a refresh. The 24-70 and the 70-200 got all reasonable price increases when they got refreshed. As far as I recall both were at a around a 10% increase in theory and practice. The 85 refresh has a 16% increase in theory, but practically it is a 33% increase (all the shops around here are selling the GM1 at around 1500 for at least a year). Now I wonder why they were able to maintain the price in dollars but had to increase the price that drastically on the euro version... higher cost of raw materials and shipping should have made an increase in the dollar price as well, but it didn't. That is why it feels such a punch in the stomach when looking at the price increase comparatively and not just the absolute price

[@alifonso1981]

Truth

[@mjfotografiedeNeuried]

1.4 is perfect, I am buying it, the 1.2 will come, heavy and clunky, nothing for me

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

yeah definitely will be very heavy if they do create it

[@ooppss5284]

the price

[@bruceintentions]

Meike 85mm F1.4 (STM Motor) .. easy choice .. price happy

[@bruceintentions]

Viltrox AF 75mm f1.2 Pro .. another one ..

[@Chow0012]

@@bruceintentions but its apsc

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Yeah for sure!

[@luddeh1531]

it is bokeh that every KZbinr paid by Sony refused to do a comparison with GM1

[@JojoJoget]

Because Sigma 85 exists and is still the best value.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

yep . very true. tonnes of value

[@gfok]

85mm 1.2 would be way too blurry & too heavy, you can't even see the location, the new 1.4 would be more than fantastic if I end up getting one

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

weight would be the biggest factor here. Nikon and Canon have demonstrated this for us

[@Donbros]

I better have bigger lens than 1.4

[@Official_ADub]

I feel like Lenses should be cheaper. $1800 is way too much

[@EricWatson5570]

I was waiting for the newer 85. I eventually bought the 50 1.2 and absolutely love it. With a 50 and 135 gm....I'm good😅

[@chasenuuhiwa]

Odd title that got me to click because I know a ton of people that love 85mm. Got me to click but won't get me to watch. Pass.

[@mrdamiansingh]

RF85 1.2 L is the KING that’s it

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

Yeah probably is. Very big and pricey King. But a King none the less

[@mrdamiansingh]

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema lol I’m just starting drama lol 😆

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

@@mrdamiansingh 😂 touché

[@longrider9551]

The time for 1.2 glass is OVER, high ISO so much better and post processing can easily blur the background as you see fit.

[@danilogonzalezmx]

Post processing you say... 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

f/1.2 glass is just so expensive for minimal give. Its all take

[@dccoletrain]

I’ll take my Viltrox 56mm 1.7 on Fuji that is tiny… also super cheap. Ha

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

oh that is a nice lens too. My fave is the Viltrox 75mm F1.2 Pro

[@MrFraiche]

I am too poor to hate on a new lens.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

hahahahahaha this is why I won't get this lens

[@LightshaperQ]

These idiots had a chance to make a 75mm 1.2 It could’ve been more compact than than the Sigma and it would have be passed the compression that you find above 70 mm that looks the same as an 85 rendering faces in that flattering portrait look. It would be smaller and videographers would be happy also. A 1.2 at 75mm would have deeper bokeh than the 50 mm 1.2 GM and the 85mm 1.4 Who is running Sony? I remember when they used to innovate…

[@dominiquerichardson]

waiting to see this lens vs sigma vs the sony 85mm 1.8 cuzzz the 1.8 lowkey is the best bang for your buck

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

I compared it to the f/1.8 G. Was a surprising result

[@dominiquerichardson]

@JasonMorrisphotocinema as someone who owns the 85 1.8 non or my clients, has complained yet, lol and with the sigma being in the middle price wise I'm interested to see if sony can be that much better for it's price or is the sigma the perfect blend of price to Performance

[@SteveWB]

Looks like someone is compensating for something....lol

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

hahahahaha. It's not about the size but how sharp the corners are

[@SteveWB]

@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean.

[@deltaboy2011]

Needs to be 1.2 not 1.4. Especially for that price.

[@JasonMorrisphotocinema]

canon and nikon f/1.2 glass is $2800 USD.... This lens is $1799. huh?

[@TaylorTeets]

Okay, so in order to get good audio we have to watch you hold a stupid mic in front of your face? Maybe you should get a different mic.