Coin Ring Making Pro Tip! #5 Some tips on straightening a wobbly coin ring

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This pro tip discusses some techniques in straightening a wobbly coin ring even when the hole is perfectly centered.

[@LarryJHoman]

I am so glad I looked for and found this video from you. I have noticed as well that the silver Washingtons are, indeed, notorious for wobbling after the first fold. I haven't had one yet that didn't get really wonky on me. I have managed to save all of them by reworking them, as you show in this video, but thanks for helping me not feel like a total failure when it comes to folding this coin! Blessings.

[@CoinRingsfromTheMint]

Good video! I always did the stretch and reduce way but never thought about just pressing it flat like that.

[@RX-LST-N-SPC]

Great info to know, I have a handful of coins that went the wrong way, with i thought no return. Guess i now have a few more rings to add to the others. Finally i can fix them and bring them back. Thx for the tip, it will help me alot, I thought that the quarters and a few halfs were never gonna be able to bring them back to st8t. Thx Michael

[@ceesteven]

For anyone interested in my experience with this, I found that using aluminum flashing cut to size for the coin helps provide a surface to cushion the coin from damage when coming into contact with harder surfaces during the process of trying to eliminate the unevenness and wabble. I’ve encountered this wabble whenever I work a Benjamin and I’ve been trying to resolve this using as many ways I can. Once the flashing takes on an impression during the press, I simply cut a new piece. I’ve been able to work out most of the unevenness using the flashing and it appears both the Reeded and cut side of the coin does well with it. I can feel the movement of the coin ever so slightly during the press then I go ahead and anneal again if I need to continue. This is the best way for me to straighten out the situation. It takes a few annealings but it’s helped me out. The material is easy enough to get and the cost is minimal. Possibly someone else can have luck with this method as I have. Thought I’d share it.

[@KentClark75075]

Thanks for the T#5... Wobbly is as wobbly does... mine have mostly been the silver clad (40% silver) wobble... quarter and halves...

[@wallerholler2162]

Your pro tips are outstanding. I get that same wobble in every pre-'65 quarter I do. Now I know how to get it out. It just takes time and attention to detail. Nothing is too good for my customers! Thanks again for the great videos.

[@rustycraig1713]

Waller Holler Coin Rings Was wondering if you were able to get that little dip under the number 1 out? I have a perfectly centered punch, even annealing, flattening the wobble out as often as possible. When I stretch it under the number 1 dips up and it's always in the final product. Any idea how to remove it completely?

[@rustycraig1713]

***** Hey thanks for the reply. Do you think 7/16" is better than 1/2"? I've been trying with 1/2" and still getting the curve up where the number 1 is.

[@breehaider4031]

Thanks Jason for doing this video as I was the one who requested it:) The main wobble I get is more of a symmetrical kind of slant. When you look at the ring from the side it is not straight up and down, both of the walls are leaning, like this / / ………does that make sense? lol……. It usually happens while Im reducing

[@jonwaters5278]

I’ve learned the hard way, your punch has to be in perfect shape and your hole perfect.

[@bandanz4920]

My quarters always look too dark after annealing how do i bring them back to looking nice

[@JasonsWorks]

Is it silver or clad quarter? I like to use the Sally's Miracle buff pad. They are a blue foam pad with white buff on ne side and a fine abrasive grey on the other. Do the grey side first and then the white buff. I would keep the firescale on the ring until the very end though. I don't clean every time, just when I am finished forming.

[@deangelocustomrings967]

hello Jason. what is the thickness of the red pad. the manual does not mention this or the hardness. thx.

[@if6was929]

Aside from the ring sizer, would a 6 ton hydraulic shop bench press sufficient or would an arbor press be an essential tool to have in addition to the hydraulic press?

[@mikefickling8398]

Good information, as usual. I had really good results by using my dapping block with a home-made punch from a piece of 3/4" oak dowell from Home Depot. I bought 3' and made several punches with various size pointed ends. This gave me rally nice control without marring the coin. I have tried the Delrin balls, and they are ok, but to control the wobble, especially in the quarter, these 6" to 8" punches are great and very inexpensive. I need to talk with you about placing a big order this Friday - should I go to private message on facebook?

[@jasoncarnes4463]

hey Jason, i was looking in your manual for a link/reference to buying the pad and steel block. I was wondering if you have a suggestion?

[@celticmaster61]

You showed a book about making coin rings. Where can you get it

[@JTCoinRings]

Hello, where can I purchase the manual?... Thank You for the video.

[@Coinstojewelry]

Jason, where can I order the manual that you referred to in this video? It looks pretty interesting. Thank you.

[@JasonsWorks]

Here is a link. Be sure to check out the FAQ page as well. Great info on there. jasons.works/product/how-to-make-coin-rings-training-manual/

[@fernandopacheco5596]

Good afternoon, how do I buy these tools to be able to make these rings of old coins, could you help me on the basic tools, I'm from Brazil- Rio de Janeiro I thank you, Fernando

[@bronwynmackenzie2223]

I ordered the starter kit and did not get a manual!

[@johnnyandrew9083]

For a quarter that is a thick band! How do you do that?

[@edmelzark1069]

How do I get your hard copy book, really enjoy you programs !!

[@terryswails1191]

Can you purchase the printed manual? If so where. Thank you

[@iammrfarva]

do you sell that instruction manual???

[@tomfacciola4884]

Do u sell reduction dyes?

[@PatriotCoinRings]

+Jasons Works Seriously could use your help Jason and something you should make a video on. I have the Hardened Stainless Steel Coin Ring Anvil Used to Fix Wobbly Rings as well as bought the 6"x6" sheet of urethane you have there (I think I got it from pepe tools). Anyway, 50% of the time I get a wobble and sometimes wonder if I'm annealing too much making the metal too soft causing this, not sure why but understand the idea of fixing it as you've shown here. I'll push straight down and try to fix as much of the wobble as I can but frequently what happens is the ring before totally flattening out and yes I anneal frequently, will actually start to bend ie. left to right (like the leaning tower of Pisa). I use a digital caliper to make sure I'm dead on center as well as a centering punch card on my punch. As much as I can measure, I can't get anymore center than I am already. All burs are removed with a deburring tool. I can even get to the point of where both sides if set on a plate of steel (wish I could upload images here) would be a perfect circle and flat however how to deal with the new issue of the leaning tower? I've considered buying a half cylinder dapping tool and using a matching hammer round rod insert into the ring but don't want to lose detail. Plus, with it already being round, it's not really that which is the problem. I don't know if I'm being clear with what I mean but if you can envision a leaning tower, that's what I'm trying to deal with and have a whole bucket of silver I've given up on till the day I can figure this out. I need to be able to torque the ring in like as if using a fulcrum somehow to bring it back straight up and down. If you understand my problem and have a helpful tip or trade secret on how to deal with this, I would greatly appreciate it. I just lost 5 more silvers today to the tower issue.

[@CrackingPacks]

Michael Baker I'm having the same problem can't figure it out if you and Jason figure it out please let me know

[@av6745]

I've only done a few dozen rings so far and was having the same problem on some. It looked to me like the coin was sliding down lower on one side of the die during the folding process. I tried using teflon tape during the entire folding process and this helped me tremendously. it seemed to keep the coin level during the folding process and the wobble i was occasionally getting went away. Give it a try, it may help. Go slow and anneal frequently. Again go slow. press a little at a time then check to make the coin stays level in the die. Good luck!!

[@willanski4321]

Michael D. Baker did you get any info on this? I’m really struggling with the same issue! It’s really annoying me now!

[@allztarz2566]

Same problem...would appreciate some thoughts. I’m starting to think my 6 ton press is not perfectly pushing straight...

[@kevinspeaks2047]

Yes I noticed it happens during the folding process if it starts to get uneven that’s the problem So slow and steady wins the race everytime I was getting a wobble all the time finally figured it out and how to fix them just like jason said reduce stretch reduce stretch reduce....All good.

[@fencekid]

1st View! Good stuff brother

[@steveboardman4336]

Where is the manual you’re referencing

[@phillipsterling7869]

looks like a smith torch