Jasper Philipsen to UAE? Pithie to Bora & Lenny Martinez to Bahrain? Cycling Transfer Talks 2025 #1

[@EITiga]

Groupama-FdJ needs more money to keep their future stars ✨

[@Legionarivss]

Philipsen at UAE could fight for Roubaix. Yet he won't ride anymore Tour while under contract with them. Financially likely a hell of a deal. But as the co leader at Alpecin for his palmares it would be way better to re-sign. Tactically he isn't getting an upgrade going there.

[@nakawesiabia6311]

Exactly my point

[@georgehugh3455]

Contrary to what was said here, seems like Lenny Martinez is EXACTLY the kind of rider Bahrain doesn't need: i.e. ANOTHER semi-strong grand tour cyclist no better than Jack Haig, Santiago Buitrago, Damiano Caruso and Wout Poels. All he has going for him so far is the _"Grass-Could-Always-Be-Greener" HOPE of Youth._

[@gerlachsieders4578]

Odd, I thought that Pithie expressed his wish to move to Visma....

[@corcoranger]

Where has Ewan transferred to?

[@felixveber3376]

Jayco

[@georgehugh3455]

Maybe the Groupama & Movistar DS's/coaching and leadership leave a lot to be desired? We've already watched the latter's dysfunction for a number of years when it came to strategy, tactics, and basic things like choosing team leaders.

[@abritandhisbikeinpoland6802]

Exactly! The reason is obvious, the French teams are pretty much just that "French" top down almost 100% French staff right through the team, French everything especially mentality and approach, throw in the pressure on French teams to perform, and that's why the never will! Movistar pretty much the same, it is Spanish to the core, and for many years basically ran by Varvede, remember the disaster of having Valverede, Landa and Quintana as GC riders in the tour, it was a complete managerial joke! These teams are run on national pride and passion and clear managerial discussions dont exist! UAE, Ineos, jumbo are multi national right through all departments, no culture mentality f... things up all the time! As for Boring Bora, well they are German right from the top right down to the toilet cleaner, and the Germans biggest problem is ( I lived there for a year) they spend more time concentrating on being German, than they do on actually just living and going with the flow ( more time planning and thinking) than actually doing, they dont understand the phrase "shit happens" and all the above is why Pidcock wont go there, and why Roglic will win nothing there😪😪

[@gerlachsieders4578]

THE transfer that completely escaped your attention: Merijn Zeeman, sportive director and mastermind at Visma, is actually leaving Visma for a football club at the end of the year...

[@jasoncanon6330]

Philipsen to UAE no way he wil end up like sagan did at tinkoff-saxo remamber that

[@ljhokk]

Do you guys think that BORA wants to sign Pithie and Lazkano so they can sign Wout Van Aert because there was roumors that Van Aert are target for BORA.They want to build strong classis squad so they can bring Van Aert.

[@kickkkasss]

Phillipsen going to away from Alpecin actually make lots of sense, it's not only for the money, but also because MVDO and him have the same goal. He wants to win MSR and Roubaix, and that's MDVP goals also. Roglic and Vingegard part way, and it makes sens for Jasper too. But I don't think it's a good idea to bo to Bora, I think Wout is going there at a point (RedBull sponsor).But, Visma if Wout is leaving seems very good: leader on the monuments and one GT per year + lots of money

[@evanR09-2]

He can do well in the flatter and cobbled classics but he won’t be in the TDF and other sprint stages. I see alpecin as the old quickstep as one leaves that train, the results won’t be there and Philipsen won’t be the same when he gets out

[@georgehugh3455]

I agree there is a bit of overlap with MvdP's goals, BUT that was part of the QuickStep success formula - having multiple threats. And Jasper NEVER would have won as much WITHOUT MvdP either giving him a free ride behind or a most powerful (if not skilled) lead-out in the grand tour, etc. Jasper needs support like the old QuickStep.

[@georgehugh3455]

Jasper on Visma is almost akin to the sprinters like Viviani who "cycled" thru Ineos with VERY little success. Granted, Visma is stronger than old Ineos in the classics, but if Wout departs...not so much.

[@evanR09-2]

@@georgehugh3455 agree many of his stage wins like at 2023 Tirreno and TdF as well as this years Milano San Remo, MVdP had his back. It would be tough for him to get that kind of support in UAE, Bora and Ineos.

[@enekkers]

Actually it doesn't make sense to leave Alpecin. Without MvdP he wouldn't have won Milan San Remo and also would have won less TdF stages. MvdP is the best domestique he will ever have on the days MvdP thinks Philipsen has better chances

[@lopixoo]

Grégoire linked to EF? Source?

[@sabugdalantx]

Source please also, I search no news

[@tonyg3091]

Jasper back to UAE? That'd be a full circle then :):) That move makes zero sense.

[@mariyankolev4427]

wtf will Jasper do in uae 😂

[@thecyclingdanegaming6194]

exactly

[@zaralundcy8884]

Cycle?! No?😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@levislevitas]

be pogi's friend

[@KD_cycling]

Play the same role for Pogacar in the classics that he currently plays for MVDP I guess. Gives Pogacar the freedom to make long range moves while he sits in G2 to save the day in the sprint if the solo move fails. Also seems like a personal mate of Pogi so probably a good fit.

[@dilligaf2818]

get better gas.

[@thatsnumberwang7432]

Phillipsen to uae would be stupid for all parties, we can all see that the teamwork, bromance and yingyang of amazing talent in sprint and classic/puncheur between phillipsen and MVDP respectively. And UAE seems a less suitable team for him anyway

[@Arsenalcycling]

17:05 Tudor has money 😂

[@georgehugh3455]

WTH is wrong with Ineos? How about putting some of that poor-performing mega-budget to pick up a Lazkano, Pithie, et al.?

[@Legionarivss]

Seems like the budget has been invested primarily in other projects like Manchester United.

[@thatsnumberwang7432]

They pick up some of those riders and they tail off. As soon as they leave for uae they seem to go well. Sivakov and Yates for example

[@georgehugh3455]

@@thatsnumberwang7432 True for Yates, certainly. Sivakov did pretty well at Ineos too, and was still learning the trade. Could be the death of that well-liked DS. They need an invigorating new Performance Director like Dave Brailsford circa 2013.

[@tributetoafricanlions4244]

well its unffair the french cycling team form this young riders and than comes a team with lots of money takes the riders and the french team dont won nothing its unfair man ...

[@Queen-be6md]

It's business.

[@Legionarivss]

Offer long term contracts, UAE offered Gaimi a contract until 2028 for example. It's financial risk for sure.

[@abritandhisbikeinpoland6802]

The reason the French don't win and will never win is nothing to do with that ( well it doesn't help) but the problem is far deeper and been happening for over 20 plus years !

[@saxon1376]

Philipson to ineos

[@Legionarivss]

Ineos hasn't invested for some time massively in their squad. With Ineos focus seemingly going to Manchester United. Sky/Ineos has been a GC grand tour focused team. So unless they stop that focus and start letting go of GC men to focus on one day races + green jersey in grand tours. It doesn't make much sense. He isn't going to get a full sprint train at the Tour. Yes for Roubaix he will have a strong team and he could be provider with a strong lead-out: Tarling, Ganna etcetera. For one monument heavily improving your odds, while being worst off in grand tours. Also it hasn't been in-line with last years signings to now go for Philipsen at Ineos

[@thatsnumberwang7432]

Also I think riders just aren’t doing too well there. They seem to be tailing off - pidcock, kwiato, Rowe. And the ones who have left are doing better - sivakov, a Yates

[@saxon1376]

Pidcock trailing off 🤔