Java Vs Bedrock: Mob Spawning Parity Check... It's BAD | Minecraft

[@magesform]

Again Prowl, this series is so important. As the majority of KZbinrs are Java players, people need to know the differences between the two versions. Excellent video, keep it up.

[@neildembla1]

100th like 😎

[@mrthor3061]

i have wondered for years what i’ve been doing wrong with my mob farms i play on console this is insane to me why they are so different it makes no sense

[@Groggy1016]

Being a bedrock player who’s never played Java, to see the differences in mob spawn is very interesting + I now have a better understanding of the bedrock mechanics… win win.

[@chrisglosser7318]

I just want basic gameplay parity: 1. Click map on banners to make the banner show up on map 2. Make usable LH items (like fireworks). Most console gamepads have a pressable left joystick so there is no excuse not to be able use fireworks in the LH

[@reposhizz]

Seriously. I'm totally fine with the bedrock features. Bedrock does have the advantage of building straight over a void, but I'm so jelly of LH fireworks. Now that I'm late game, the choice is clear; I would take LH rockets over void-build.

[@--2]

All I want is the combat update on Bedrock! It has been on Java for many years and needs to be on Bedrock

[@costachiever5212]

@@--2 yes I also love it

[@ZeoZephyr]

@@--2 why do you want the most hated Minecraft update in Bedrock Edition?

[@--2]

@@ZeoZephyr, You think I care if it’s hatee or not? No. It’s MUCH better than the curreent combat, and relies on more skill instead of spam clicking, and it’s on the Java edition, so it should br on the bedrock aswell!

[@jasonstandlea1784]

Having built a bedrock witch hut farm, and seeing what Java can do.... I feel this so dang much

[@andrejosue98]

Well witch farms are really bad in java, but in bedrock you have only one place where witches can spawn which is really ridiculous

[@andrejosue98]

Heck even ocean monuments have like 18 or 20 spawning spaces...A witch farm should have 10 and it would make sense

[@leadharsh0616]

@@andrejosue98 witch hut is not 100s of blocks by 100s of blocks.

[@theweird1manytalents604]

⁠there’s multiple pieces of wood it’s inexcusable there all on the same block

[@rafazajac9480]

I hope Mojang devs watch this video and decide to do something about this issue.

[@rafazajac9480]

@@Prowl8413 Sure. What I meant is that knowing something is one thing and seeing such a comparison is another. I think the latter is more likely to push a dev to action, to raise the priority. Which is why I'm very glad you made this video.

[@saberdentures94]

Biggest point for me is the difference in spawning rates for passive mobs.

[@andrejosue98]

Well it is not that fast. The way it usually works is that when you start a world or load new chunks you find several passive mobs. But after that, if you kill them, then it takes a loooong time for them to spawn, and I mean a lot. I have a skyblock world, and since mobs need to actually spawn and I have gotten like less than 20 passive mobs in the world and I have player for more than 5 months

[@casey9917]

All I've wanted for years as a bedrock player is to be able to build on the nether roof and to have the sweeping edge enchantment

[@Prince-mz9tc]

Nether roof was unintentional mistake from java devs when they made nether limit same as ow. And when they realized it was very late. So nether roof will never came to bedrock.. well ya we need sweeping edge lol

[@George-wu1ps]

If we get sweeping edge, they will probably take away trident killer, I think

[@andrejosue98]

@@George-wu1ps Sweeping edge will probably only come in a combat update that the devs think a looong time. Many people send death threats when Java's combat update came

[@vipin6993]

Yes

[@mainhalo117]

@@andrejosue98 sounds like a skill issue

[@TyroneEnsor]

Honestly think with mobs on bedrock, should be a switch in options for 'java mob spawning rules' for consoles, pc, high end devices, also think we need a wood cutter variant of a stone cutter to make wood crafting items cheaper than in crafting bench such as stairs etc

[@1st_Atom]

but again then this creates different version of the game for teh same version. someone builds a mob farm guide but you also have to put all yoru setting to the same as shown in the guide or else it wont work as well. what mojang should have done is not make bedrock for PC or console leave it for mobile device and or small device gaming. Mojang needs to implement the quality of life building of bedrock and put it in java. if they did that along java would be amazing.

[@TyroneEnsor]

@@1st_Atom, that was my original stance too, but we are where we are unfortunately, i started playing on the orginal legacy console edition, that was pretty much parallel with java, i built java farms on there tht worked majority of the time in the same manner, I miss those good days, at this point I just want a bigger inventory space 😂 😂

[@vaporboy947]

I think to make it perfect it would be keep the simulation distance tight to mob spawning because I like not having to make a huge perimeter just to have a decent farm.. I do wish that they would up the mob cap on bedrock if not to 70 then at least 50.. I also think they should do away with cave spawns and surface spawns.

[@1st_Atom]

where i agree. but you have to understand. bedrock is meant to be the version for low performing devices. to make things almost the same as java defeats the purpose. the more mobs you have the more times the game has to update the mob check the more the device has to work and the lower performance you will get. what mojang should have done is not make bedrock for PC or console leave it for mobile device and or small device gaming. Mojang needs to implement the quality of life building of bedrock and put it in java. if they did that along java would be amazing.

[@gabrielandy9272]

@@1st_Atom bedrock is not suposed to be the low end version , its the superior version made to run on alot of hardware, so more options is cool, cave and surface spawn caps are cool, its just that they are too low.

[@fabiobassi4950]

I’ve always been a Java player. This time I started a world in Bedrock and I don’t know why, but in nether fortresses I’m always swarmed by mobs. Never experienced it in java

[@andrejosue98]

It is not that it does not happen in java, in java it is a lot worse than in bedrock, the advatange is that most java fortresses are surrounded by hundreds of spawning spaces, so most mobs spawn outside the fortress. But if you have ever made a perimeter, you would see that you could get surrounded really really fast in a fortress

[@dynamicgamesyt3]

Yeah also your guy’s end is weird too, i don’t see as many endermen as i do in some of your examples.

[@kkalafus]

Does anyone know if there are an open bug report on this as a parity issue? If so I think we'd all vote for it. "Hard" mode is far too easy on Bedrock edition, even on high end devices that could handle more mobs.

[@chrisglosser7318]

They have a separate project just for parity issues

[@Endersgamejp]

Too easy my ass. I cant even beat the dragon on peaceful.... Lol jkjk on that one... But seriously, the wither and dragon are pretty hard overall on bedrock

[@Yamaelp]

@@Endersgamejp yes boss are waY harder. But regular day to day is way to easier.

[@crissis3263]

i mean u in java can eat fish and get from 4 hp to 18hp in like 6 seconds, so idk

[@liljont5048]

What i hate about the mob farms being so bad in bedrock is that I instead rely on the smelting xp glitch... that's kinda the only way to get xp early game

[@andrejosue98]

But in Java we almost never use general mob farms for xp. It is either enderman farm, gold farm or guardian farm. Guardians farms in bedrock are super easy to make in early game, and you get tons of xp from them

[@jessew1359]

I would reccomend using a single portal based gold farm for xp early game. Portal ticking is very quick and fairly cheap.

[@eamonwalsh684]

@@andrejosue98 without trident killers people only really use gold farms on java

[@andrejosue98]

@@eamonwalsh684 As far as I remember, Bedrock had the feature or bug that made piglins spawn every time a portal got lit up, so people would make quick gold farms using this, not sure if that was removed

[@eamonwalsh684]

@@andrejosue98 Yes this is basically bedrocks go to early game farm Java have this exact same farm but the piglins spawn on the obsidian rather then one block ajacent making the farm non viable and of cours trident killers boost it

[@philipduldulao4753]

Wow, bedrock is really falling behind in mobs spawns.

[@andrejosue98]

It was a lot worse a year ago. They have done an excellent work. Before 1.16, most mobs in bedrock did not even despawn, they despawned with light level, son in dark caves they never despawned... so it was always like playing peaceful

[@simplypevey5278]

great video and thank you I just made my java farm 4x bigger in a bedrock world and I wanted to kms because i got like1/10th of the drops/mods! I AM SO PISSED RIGHT NOW!!

[@tdhb8025]

Sir im kinda now confused about what you said You said that in bedrock edition mob cap doesnt work often leading to mobs being singular yet when i enter a very open cave with no light i see packs of zombies sometimes skeleton But what got me confused is My version is pocket edition like bedrock spawn mechanics?

[@Xacris]

I was about to disagree with your point about applying a density cap to Java, but then I remember all the unintentional "mob farms" that GoodTimesWithScar makes when he forgets to light up his builds. Instant horde! The technical minecrafter in my just wants as many mobs as possible though

[@Prowl8413]

Very understandable too! But yes, when you step back and think of it, applying it in a measured way won't hurt mob farms much, but could help with those "accidental" mob farms

[@andrejosue98]

@@Prowl8413 It should not do so. Lighting a place or spawn proofing it is the solution to all those problems. And it is not hard to do so. People like good times with scar only care about looks and not about making it spawn proof, so he is careless with lighting. But he understands that there is a simple solution to avoid those accidental mob farms

[@minerplayz9842]

1:12 That spider over there in the right side of the video is really STUBBORN

[@davidanderegg1232]

The issue with bedrock caps is the 4 chuck simulation distance worlds. 20-44 block mean they all see you instantly and attack. Easy mode is way harder than java hard mode for that case, and adding more to the cap makes it worse.

[@amandabassett9472]

Thank you for explaining the simulation distances for realms because my farms werent working and now I know why. More pf those would be great

[@Eggfur]

Nice video again - a difficult topic and simply explained. The perverse thing is that playing on low sim distances makes the game harder since the mob cap is filled up so close to the player. I like the separate cave and surface spawn mechanics. It makes it more interesting and with the other bedrock mechanics it does mean that you're still going to get mobs in both areas. Java has issues with passive mobs when it comes to spawn chunks. If you've spent long enough in spawn chunks the passive cap can fill and no new passive mobs will spawn anywhere else in the world (except at chunk generation). Standard overworld mob farms are definitely slower on bedrock, but I'm not sure that's a bad thing. How many bows and rotten flesh do you need? Creepers are the only exception, and lots of gun powder is only really needed once you get elytra. At that point there are bedrock creeper farms that can produce 10s of stacks of gunpowder per hour...

[@Amanchoo123]

The redstone water dispensers is a lot less resource intensive, but I still wonder if the scaffolding trick works on JE too.

[@matthewbryant3531]

Hope you look into iron farms, they confuse me on bedrock, would love to know more details

[@Prowl8413]

It's on my list :)

[@Prince-mz9tc]

So in java iron farms works with scare mechanics. Generally golem spawns naturally in village at day time if 3 villagers have link to their beds...(no need of workstation) but most farms uses scare mechanics. Whenever villager sees some danger like zombie,pillager etc. It checks around certain blocks from him to see if there is any golem. If there is not 3 villagers can decide to spawn golem. Otherwise in bedrock there are some requirements and conditions for golems to spawns Conditions are: Village need atleast 20 beds and 10 villager in order to spawn 1 golem. If there are 20 villagers 2 golems will spawn. 75% villagers should work in previous working day in order to spawn golem. They should link to their poi( beds, workstations etc)

[@chrisglosser7318]

The iron farm mechanic is basically the same - you just need tons more villagers (and the villagers need to be linked to a bed and have access to a workstation). Prob is, this gets broken the second you place a bed or a workstn block anywhere hear the farm

[@farlapjones]

@@chrisglosser7318 POI = pouring out iron

[@me.anthony.7]

@@Prince-mz9tc actually, there's no need for them to work previously. As soon as there's 10 villagers linked to the workstations, they spawn iron golems instantly. I did an iron farm in my world, as soon as I got them to 10 adults linked, an iron golem spawned. Also, it seems to me that they spawn less iron golems at night, sometimes only "1 per try" the whole night.

[@anshumanmishra4025]

I was waiting for this.. Thanks buddy!!! You owe me something,(i don't know what ) :)

[@auldrick]

I don't think you're taking account of the fact that the size of the spawnable volume determines how many chunks the game needs to keep loaded around each player. My quick calculation tells me that extending the spawn volume from 44 to 128 blocks adds about 900 chunks to the list, an increase of 66% over the simdist 4 volume. I suspect that's too much for a low-end device to support even for a single player, and each additional player makes it a lot worse. So that explains why spawning is tied to simdist. So then the next thought people go to is to raise the minimum device requirements, but that would chop off a big piece of the mobile cross players. Cross play is the only reason Bedrock was created in the first place. If they made separate editions for console, mobile and desktop, MC would be like any other game and would sell like one. Cross play tapped a huge market of people who wanted to play with friends but didn't have the right devices. It took advantage of a synergistic market, and in doing so it became the #1 seller in the world. Without cross play, economies of scale would have made Bedrock too expensive to develop at all. So you can't just kiss the low end mobile devices goodbye, that would kill the game. There's more, but I'm not an expert in all this and I don't want to overstate the case. I'm just saying that from a business standpoint, there are complexities beyond what technical players tend to look at and that limit how well the game can afford to be tuned to their preferences. It may be that Bedrock isn't the best choice for a big MP server like TB, although I think it does pretty well myself. But I don't see getting it to parity with Java for that kind of player as a realistic goal.

[@TyroneEnsor]

The orginal minecraft for console (legacy edition) had java features like the quasi connectivity in redstone, was sad to see this go when they forced bedrock on us by not updating legacy edition anymore

[@andrejosue98]

@@TyroneEnsor Legacy edition had a lot of issues, like having a limited world and end. Bedrock added a lot of good stuff

[@TyroneEnsor]

@@andrejosue98, I dont disagree with you there, if only they took the best bits from all versions and put them together for us (lol), I just like things simple 1 version for all

[@GreatTazGaming]

I started my first game on Bedrock when a friend got me to download to play with them. They didn't tell me they were on Java. Played Java mostly then started a Bedrock Let's Play to help neices and nephew learn more about the game and yea, playing on Bedrock hard is almost like playing on peaceful on either compared to Java hard. I did learn a lot about Bedrock Mob spawning tho and understand why some of my Java Mob farms don't work or as well on Bedrock. Also Creepers on Bedrock (1.8 blocks) are .1 blocks taller then Java (1.7 blocks). As for the mob caps, well let it stay 9x9 on easy then like a 7x7 on normal and 3x3 on hard for Bedrock and also go from 8 on easy 12 normal and 20 hard. That way it get hard with the difficulty settings.

[@CrudeBird9870]

Can there be an add-on for same mob spawning in mcpe 🤔🤔

[@joshuastahle]

As a bedrock player that's moved to Java recently for the sole purpose of hardcore, the difference is incredible. There are some ways to make up for the discrepancy in bedrock mob farms for some entities (I'm looking at you my beloved Guardian farm) by pushing mobs directly into the nether, thus removing them from the mob cap, but this can also easily crash the game if you wait too long so it has no real AFK factor (mobs will stack up in INSANE numbers that have gone through a portal, and when it enter into the nether to kill them, your system just laughs at you and catches on fire). I've also crashed the game with a nether portal gold farm because I forgot to turn on my trident killer, but alas, give us bigger mob caps Mojang so i dont have to over engineer mob farms.

[@d4r4butler74]

I noticed you stayed away from the Wither and End Dragon stuff, lol. But seriously, there is a big discrepancy in the Mob stuff.

[@Prowl8413]

Those would be entire topics for a whole video

[@CthulhuRuby]

As a bedrock player, i have to say Java is infinitely better, and as someone who has dabbled with programming, i can say with certainty that there is no reason for them not to be the same, the devs' "they're different programming languages" excuse is just that, an excuse

[@Damglador]

True, extends to so many things, sadly most ppl don't care

[@Greebox-]

Many thanks Prowl. This is a great series that helps us Bedrock players understand our system a little more. The imbalance of Java you tubers V Bedrock you tubers is even bigger than the mob spawn count 😕 So we all desperately need the likes of you and bluejay to keep this sort of content coming. Keep up the great work 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@TheMinecraftKidd]

I honestly don’t think Mob spawning and de-spawning on Bedrock will ever be on par to Java edition until they discontinue support for all low end mobile devices or anything that isn’t a console or P.C. Unfortunately, a huge base of Bedrock players are on mobile. You can’t rely expect the devs to tweak mob spawning on Java to closely match Bedrock because that would be nonsensical. What a PC can handle is very different from mobile devices or consoles can handle. I know that Bedrock on PC exists but the code is the same between mobile and consoles. Other than that, I am happy they fixed the spawning and de-spawning mechanics not all that long ago. I’m sure they are still trying to find new ways to improve such mechanics. I play on Java but I also still play Bedrock too! 🙂❤️

[@CrudeBird9870]

U are true Minecraft fan if u play both version 😀

[@TheMinecraftKidd]

@@CrudeBird9870 lol thats true! I also play Minecraft Dungeons and Minecraft Earth! 😂❤️😂 I love everything Minecraft!

[@CrudeBird9870]

@@TheMinecraftKidd lul 😂

[@marksimcock560]

Tbh most mobiles are pretty fast nowadays most could probably handle it. They have stopped support for certain mobile devices not sure which ones. I always wondered the rates on my blaze farm wasn't that great I'm on bedrock on mobile

[@Prince-mz9tc]

@@marksimcock560 well, they discontinued the oldest Android and game is still coded on older c++. Of they do change spawning it will be disaster that they already has made in 1.16.100 basically sim 4 sucks in mob spawning

[@machtigemilch609]

Great video. I recently started playing on a bedrock server with friends (used to only play java) and I was sooo confused why my farms didn't work. This info helped a lot.

[@eagleladyofchrist]

Man, that's a big difference! Of course, 8 hostile mobs is plenty more than I can fight. M

[@311rocks247]

Seriously awesome video! Thank you for covering all this! So tired of snapshots and changes videos. This is the stuff at my level that is what I need to learn. Way to go!

[@CMinorOp67]

Yeah, the difference in mob spawns within farms seem pretty unfair for Bedrock…but, holy heck…the regular hostile mob spawning within a world just seems so much more often in Bedrock than what it seems it Java. I’ve watched KZbinrs stream hardcore and not see nearly as many mobs as I do in my normal Bedrock world. It’s like every time I turn around I have to fight. It’s gotten so bad that I have had to turn It on peaceful in my survival world when I want to build something and not spend half my time fighting or rebuilding something a creeper blew up. Then again, my constant survival world is cursed. So…maybe it’s just me. Seriously, my world has more spawners than I have ever seen in a world before. Like , for example, three surface cave spider spawners, together, on top of a Mesa. And my oceans are full of drowned. With a third of them carrying tridents.

[@samchrischristopher4786]

Lucky

[@doremi1130]

Trueee I don't even want to try hard mode because my single world on normal mode is already a pain for me😭🤲 I wanna try java edition so baddd

[@Koa1989]

Even the console legacy version seemed to have more than 8 hostile mobs able to spawn not to mention the better together update broke pretty much everything made with Redstone in the legacy version. It sucks since I loved minecraft on console before the better together update but pretty much have stopped playing since it became bedrock and the worlds just feel desolate now. Maybe I will buy java and i will actually enjoy the game again instead of always turning it on and playing for a few minutes before I just turn it off.

[@rxtin9731]

On bedrock Edition Lower Simulation Distance is the most annoying ever as mob constantly spawn in group.

[@TheCo2rrt]

How can you compare those two farms? Why not same farm in both systems????

[@juliaf_]

Mob farms on java do push to getting rid of them as quick as possible when going large scale. It's pretty easy to reach the 70 mob cap with even a modest sized farm, case in point: guardian farming. It's simple farms on java are very simple, but technical mob farming is still pretty complex. It wasn't until the past few years that it was discovered that mobs spawn faster lower down, even though it's been the same since initial release after all

[@dresdyn100]

I play both Java and Bedrock. On Java if I'm caught out at night before I have a bed or found a village, I dig a hole and wait it out. On Bedrock I tend to keep going. Funny thing is some of those holes have eventually turned into some epic underground bases - I play hardcore only on Java.

[@jonnevitu4979]

just finished my bedrock enderman farm and I couldnt be more disappointed; the mob cap is the most annoying thing ever for me who grew up playing and watching ppl playing java edition and getting good results from spending their time building mob farms instead of that painfully low amount of xp Im getitng from that enderman farm.

[@111steveo111]

I play on PS4 and agree with Prowl on all things he mentions. However, I get awful lag if gold farms back up with piglins. This is probably XP but if we get more mobs then will this add additional console lag?

[@Prowl8413]

That problem happens for any system, ps4 would handle more mobs spawning

[@ariesflamethrower5418]

I wish we could have java spawns. Its so nice. Sigh. At least bedrock farms tend to be super creative.

[@elijahsmall5873]

Yeah

[@crissis3263]

yeah, but as a wise man once said, "player will optimize the fun out of a game". creativity is pointless what matters is number

[@42WoodenPlanks]

It did catch me off guard the first time I played Java. One little section of my base that I left unlit suddenly had entire armies of mobs that only a lunatic would have left unchecked. Repairs took a while.

[@Zogg1281]

I've always thought that Java needed the Trident Killer but seeing how many mobs they actually get I think we should hold the Trident Killer for ransom!!! If they give us more mobs and they get a few less mobs then..... and only then.... they can maybe have a Trident Killer..... just 1!!! I've never quite grasped how many more mobs they actually get. The difference is insane!! I know they were trying to get into the mobile community where they might not want as many mobs but that's why we have level difficulty selection as well as other selection tabs in the sub menus. Just 1 box that goes all the way back to "Doom" that's titalled "Hurt me Plenty" (basically Doom's hardest game mode) which gives you rates that are closer to Java and I'd be a really happy man. Thanks a bunch for demonstrating the difference for us 👍👍👍👍👍

[@fedepremium4964]

So on bedrock we can have a mob switch? I have to build a big ghast farm and i can't active peacefull because I have whiter cages

[@lahirkorada4268]

What if we keep 4 chunks distance how mob spawing works i want to know

[@patrickhenderson4852]

So what if a bedrock player is playing on a java server? Does the Java spawning rules take place or bedrock?

[@thirdhandcargo3486]

Another parity problem is default tick speed. Java is three times faster.

[@me.anthony.7]

@VINCE NEPOMUCENO but you wouldn't get any advancements cuz to do so you have to activate cheats

[@cvk4488]

Now it's fixed

[@southpawentertainment9594]

I play on PS4 and while yes...regular mobs seem much easier... some boss battles are ridiculous. The Wither in particular. End portal cheat doesn't work and man he is seriously op.

[@Gal-po6lf]

End portal trick does work its just done differently

[@diamondgamer448]

@@Gal-po6lf Could you provide a link to how it works exactly? My friend and I killed the Wither in the end expecting it to not break obsidian, sadly it did and the fight took several attempts. In the end we just ate enchanted apples or golden apples then rushed the Wither with a few iron golems as a distraction for if we needed to heal

[@CrudeBird9870]

Next video on combat parity

[@greyd413]

Wow I was wondering why I got only like 2 gunpowder from by creeper farm in bedrock.

[@Dragoon42]

I agree with you that the mob cap of Bedrock should be increased.(Or at least give the option to increase) I understand the reasons why they don't. They have to support pretty old phones so they can't be too process intensive or aggressive. Using a console or a PC it is pretty easy to defeat the mobs. But it's a lot more difficult to handle more than one mob with a mobile phone. They have to use the the lower denominator when making decisions on a multi-platform game. The only thing weird is the Wither is harder on bedrock because there's multi-stage attack sequence. Which goes against the reasoning for easier mobs Bedrock for the mobile phones.

[@Gal-po6lf]

Also by the time you get a wither on half health in bedrock you've already done enough damage to kill a java wither

[@evokerverse6359]

Hey prowl you are bedrock know king!

[@vipin6993]

Please vote form mob spwaning as java in bedrock so we can make farm like java such as creeper farm ,gardian farm and enderman farm

[@tomdalton4016]

Java doesn’t have a trident killer so they can not get looting effect in their farms . Am I wrong?

[@MrMattRanger]

This is true but doesn’t really matter because the farms are so good that looting is pretty much not needed.

[@andrejosue98]

Java also has sweeping edge, that Bedrock does not have.

[@logitimate]

Manual clicking is not too bad, with Java Edition's sweep attack. This is especially true with sweeping edge, but even without, you just build a drop shaft that leaves mobs with half a heart. Or you can just set up an autoclicker. (Or, as another replier noted, just accept a power per-mob chance of rare drops.)I'

[@demolition3612]

Ya, I switched to bedrock at one point, because my computer was soo slow, so I got it on my xbox. The mob mechanics and red stone were the first differences i noticed

[@Lifelessdummy]

Wait so on bedrock, is passive mob (animal) count separately from mob?

[@Prowl8413]

Yes but the 200 cap is for all

[@davidmartineau8357]

Salut, dommage que je ne comprends pas l'anglais car silent et toi j'aime bien je vous regarde de temps en temps sans trop comprendre 😢, et surtout quand vous expliquer le " mob spawning". Continue comme ça.

[@demolition3612]

Anyone else staring at the spider that keeps escaping the water and jumping with glee in the beginning of the video

[@petertrieu930]

As a bedrock player, i just want the offhand to be useful and faster mob spawning. Nether roof probably wont get added to bedrock as it was originally unintended so i wish mojang would add something unique to compensate

[@Jabvi]

What simulation distance should I play on my solo world? ( sometimes my brother joins, he plays on ps4 and I now play on ps5) Also, would be great to see a video about advanced farms. I know you can build 2 farms of the same type and have them both loaded at the same time but what would be the distance depending on the sim?

[@antirevomag834]

Is this outdated and have they chaged stuff? because my experience with bedrock was completely different from "spread out mobs" more like a movie version of a zombie horde at night, jus with skeletons, spiders, creepers, and zombies. Hell. On java i've never had witches on the first night, yet bedrock it happened right away and it was a complete cluster F. I'm not some mega elite player but i got good enough at java minecraft's nights that i usually just survived the first couple nights before i bothered with a base, yet on bedrock, not even close.

[@ThatMooKoo]

Has Bedrock changed since this video? Because I definitely see more than eight hostile during the night in Hard. I have a skeleton farm on Bedrock as well, which I don’t know if Spawners change things, but I can get a good stack of ~20 skeletons in about two minutes. Though I do notice I can’t get very far from the Spawner and it will stop. I feel like something isn’t the same since this video…

[@star5384]

YA

[@MikamoLimo]

why dont just rise the cap of mobs in bedrock with higher difficulty?

[@randyquaid3381]

Thanks for making this I was extremely underwhelmed by the Enderman farm I built in my bedrock world. I think Java's mob spawning system is much better

[@ignorant5369]

They need to get more spawn in bedrock… 8 mobs !?!? This is insulting

[@IamGrief887]

I built a simple spawn platform in Bedrock, and I can't get even one mob to spawn, even with an hour AFK.

[@notimportant8532]

We really need parity

[@notimportant8532]

Things are confusing otherwise. Primarily for new players

[@notimportant8532]

@@Prowl8413 your video helps resolve the confusion thanks

[@Alvinnskie]

I hope bedrock edition is like on java in spawning rate

[@JustDevon]

Mob spawns are the main reason I moved to Java as soon as I could

[@footballedits3361]

Yes how do you like it?

[@dareokoski8158]

Bedrock do have pack spawning for passive mobs its just mobs usually spawn on the same block and they dont seperate untill u get close. Java in the code they acually have deffrent spawn attempts with every pack spawn unit so its never on the same block so it seams like their is less mobs on bedrock then java but its actually around the same passive mob wize. The main prob woth java tho is their is passive mobs dont despawn and this is thing called the spawn chunks witch is always loaded and a mob cap of 4 you half to clear all the mobs in the spawn chunks and make it spawn proof for passive mobs before u can acually get passive mobs to spawn again in same area. This makes breeding passive mobs a necessary if u want meat for food early game. But in bedrock. Passive and hostile mobs despawn the same meaning you will always have passive mobs comming in you dont have to worry about running out of passive mobs in your area making breeding unessecary

[@zwren3693]

Do mobs from a spawner effect the mob cap?

[@Prince-mz9tc]

There is nothing different in tags so yes

[@Eggfur]

@@Prince-mz9tc but the spawner will keep creating mobs beyond the 200 mob cap as it doesn't take this into account.

[@ytdojo483]

i think the reason bedrock has a cap of 16 (8 under and 8 over) is because the systems that its running on may not be able to handle more mobs and more AI causing more lag. recent systems have gotten better and bedrock edition has been getting better (like realm simulation distance increasing to 10) but it seems like a PC is able to handle the mob rates that Java has whereas an Xbox or a playstation would struggle with it. not saying PC is better just that maybe Bedrock spawn rates are due to a lack of processing power and ram on the devices that bedrock is on. what would i do to balance it out? obviously i would increse the cap of bedrock to at least 32 maybe even 48 and decrease the java edition to 48 and keep the spawn distance the same as on bedrock so that gameplay between each system didnt seem so... different

[@Prince-mz9tc]

10:53 *22-44 blocks.

[@IamGrief887]

I think that the real problem is that Microsoft is in charge of Bedrock edition, and they have absolutely no clue how to make a Minecraft game. Bedrock feels like a Minecraft skin suit. Like the only similarities are superficial, and Microsoft only bought Minecraft for the brand recognition with absolutely no intention of making an actual Minecraft game. I'm stuck without a computer, so Bedrock is my only Minecraft option, and I feel like I'm being purposely left out because I can't afford to put more money in Bill Gates' slimey pockets.

[@kunipshunfit]

This is painful to experience. I built a HUGE mob farm on Craftaway and was sorely disappointed in the drop rate. I completely blame this on Mojang wanting Bedrock to run on low power devices. Java speed farms would crash those devices. Hard mode should be reserved for people with devices that can run proper hard mode. Also Java is OP AF!

[@matthewschultz7745]

Good job, keep them coming

[@simonbant1704]

100% agree. I can spend hours mining on bedrock and not see 1 mob

[@exisfohdr3904]

You are incorrect about bedrock spawning. Yes, simulation distance affects spawning capability. However the "spherical" spawning is not completely accurate. There is a sphere of of 23 blocks around the player where mobs "should" not spawn but sometimes do if the initial spawn attempt started outside of the 23 block sphere and then group spawning led to selecting a block withon 23 blocks of player. The outer limits of tge spawning is mostly set by simulation distance. If at 6 chunck sim distance, then mobs will spawn within 6 chunck including the chunk the player is in, s0 5 cuncks out from current chunck. It is not spherical however; it only goes out 5 chuncks in the four cardinal directions ( N, E, S, W ). In bedrock, the mobs never stop moving, they will just despawn if they go too far out. Bedrock surface and cave spawning rules are a bit more complicated than you stated. Through testing, I noticed the 8 and 8 tou mentioned, however, bedrock tends to replicate spawns when there are nultiple layers. So, if a skeleton spawns of surface layer and there are 3 cave layers beneath it, it tends to spawn 4 skeletons at the same x and z coordinates just on 4 different y levels. It does not always do this, but it does happen frequently.

[@rjbestm]

Yes He is real king 🙏🏻 Bedrock king 👍🏻

[@CMinorOp67]

Wow…this confuses me, because my most played Bedrock survival world is constantly spawning hostile mobs. Watching you walk through your Bedrock world, I’m thinking, “gah, I wish!” Watching KZbinrs play their hardcore worlds, I’m thinking “gah, I wish!” When I created a Bedrock survival world, last year…I did what I always do and crafted a boat so I can sail around the first night. I ended up going through a swamp…and there were two witch huts very close to one another…and at least 20 witches came out of one of the huts, like they had just finished up a meeting, and stood at the water’s edge just staring at me. It was like a freaking horror movie, And I hadn’t really played Minecraft for about 4 years, so I thought, “is this something new?”

[@gabrielandy9272]

what simulation distance you play on? the lower you simulation distance, the more closers the mobs are to you, the higher it is the less mobs overall you get, and we want a higher simulation distance since we want the chunks to be alive far away i want stuff to update i want my furnaces to update i want trees to grown and so on.

[@W.W.J.D.1]

I hope the mob spawning gets better on bedrock edition.It’s unfair that Java gets to make these supper efficient mob spawn era and bedrock edition can’t.Java edition mob grinders without a spawners are better than bedrock edition mob grinders with spawners.

[@nbricks7]

This is extremely unfair bedrock needs to be updated to fix this immediately it’s unfair to people that actually want to engage in the endgame on bedrock we can’t even make semi efficient but on Java everything is as easy looking up a tutorial on bedrock you need a f******g phd in the game to even got semi decent numbers

[@Apersonfarfaraway]

All i want is faster and easier farms and better redstone on bedrock. Bedrock already has its fair share of small exclusive features so I’m not too concerned about things like the off hand.

[@elizabethballi6733]

How do I pin pictures on here

[@peterstrong772]

Problem is mojang want bedrock to work on as many devices as possible, and that means devices that are old and slow, java doesn't have this problem, and mojang won't remove older devices unless it interferes with a world changing update, I think they should have a setting to allow people who are not playing on a 10year old mobile phone to increase mob caps and spawning.

[@rvgn]

Great recommendations!

[@1969MustangFan]

Thank you very much for the detailed video I really enjoyed it. One main factor you are missing is the system requirements required to play both Java / Bedrock MC. Bedrock is scaled down so poorly for the worst mobile smart phone can play it. Remember Minecraft pocket edition before bedrock? No one wanted to play that limited version of Minecraft. I agree those that play bedrock on a computer or Series X equivalent system are going a lesser experience of the game, but Mojang wanted to eliminate Minecraft pocket by pulling down the “windows 10/Xbox” version of the game. Great video, it’s an important topic to keep bring up so Mojang changes something. I would like to see like how Java can load any version of the released game, add something like that for Bedrock and add a load options to increase mob spawn to parity level/match Java.

[@swiggityswag709]

Excellent video! ❤ Although I think microsoft won't make the mobs much harder on bedrock. Bedrock is the future where most kids start their gamkng these days. They are finding the current difficulty already hard enough on their ipads and mobile phones. I would not mind myself having more lobs tho lol

[@doremi1130]

I watch people playing java and they don't even have to place torches when caving, but in bedrock if we don't light our surroundings the hostile mobs will spawn a lot.. so I don't think it's easy when we don't have much resources especially for early game

[@veedub2981]

I think the mob count should change with the difficulty

[@Damglador]

Bruh, simulation distance 4 on Bedrock is cracked, but on 12 barely anything spawns

[@chandrahasreddy1729]

Why they do everything good only for Java and very less for bedrock 😢

[@therealofficialcaz1900]

Wow mob spawning is NUTS o Java, I always knew but I didn’t if that makes sense. Seeing it’s a different story!

[@JariSatta]

It's perfect. Bedrock is good for scarcity survival, java is good for abundance survival. No changes needed in my opinion. Got both, like both. Java is a perfect java, bedrock is a perfect bedrock. It is what it is.

[@bucko2263]

What about console edition

[@GhostwasLost69]

I just found 2 ocean monuments and they r just 200 blocks apart from eachother

[@oweqwench]

Nice

[@KimberlyRyan_a]

I get soooo many more drowned on Bedrock than Java. Wish i could play Java on the Switch. It’s more comfortable than sitting at a PC for more hours.

[@ansariatique4347]

Nice informational video ❤️

[@rambotara6797]

I think trident killers make it easier for bedrock mob farms

[@victorhybinette2330]

Let not forget the difference with the wither between the 2

[@Prince-mz9tc]

Java wither is easy bedrock wither can't be even defeated in creative mode.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@andrejosue98]

@@Prince-mz9tc Bedrock wither is just stupid... but it can be killed in hard, you just need several totems of undying lol