Javier Rivera: On Giving Up

[@Xena_Yoon]

This explains a lot! I wish I hadn't waited till I'm almost 50 to hear this.

[@PhilosophyPortal]

Great talk, Javier! I really love this distinction between quitting and giving up. Thanks for your work. 🙏

[@javiphilosophy]

Thanks Cadell! Means a lot 🙏🏻

[@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel]

Great work, Javier; I really like the distinction and think it's useful to think that, wherever we end up in life, there is something we will need to "give up." I think that is true; life is marked by offerings without guarantee.

[@javiphilosophy]

Thanks Daniel! I appreciate it 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@claireowens8546]

Adam Phillips (psychoanalyst) latest book “On Giving Up” is thought provoking. I really liked your talk Javier. Thank you.

[@javiphilosophy]

Thank you Claire!

[@DelandaBaudLacanian]

I'm here for the Sabina Spielrein-maxxing

[@javiphilosophy]

I'm here for it too 😂

[@maartenschumacher]

I was thinking about the qualitative difference. What if it's just in how high your highs are and how low your lows? Meaning, if you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the inevitability of suffering, at the start of your cycle you will be extremely hopeful and excited for the possibility of ultimate happiness, and then extremely disappointed when you fail. So the more you accept the limit negative, the more it just mellows out the curve. Kind of like the difference between falling in love as a teenager and falling in love as an adult.

[@eenblanke]

giving up means hopelesness and despair, there is no salvation, no redemption, no way out. You only have death and nothingness to look forwards to

[@alecfraher7122]

why, sacrifice ? ~ and who's terms? Power of Horror? Bojan Radej is looking at the very same thing just now ...

[@javiphilosophy]

No one's terms but my own 😂. It's my own bullshit terms to explain something.

[@alecfraher7122]

@@javiphilosophy ah! and hmmm! why explanation? with-standings, under-standings, and no-standings, no? (btw I like your efforts they provoke me so I do the same ~ Zizek's Parallax is useful, no? And, Julie's reworking of Kristeva too; say with 'it' and considering the almost throw away comment 'it is isn't it' of the Brahma and Hindu and the nature of the existence of nonexistence and the noncontradiction of contradiction; for a heavy read Mind,Meaning and Mental Disorder:The Nature of Causal Explanation in Psychiatry and Psychology by Derek Bolton and Jonathan Hill is, perhaps, helpful to set the scene and context of how continental thought-forms inparticularly philosophy(see Laske) have been sandwiched (interpellation in Althusserian terms) between Analytical Philosophy and Behavioural Economics creating the toxic positivity and especially within the ideas of brain plasticity (which Julie looks at) ... stay with it; and dare I say, 'lean into it' the abject is the internalised projection of an hostile other determined on splitting the subject at any cost, perhaps ? Power of Horror and Black Sun are definitely worth reading 📚 And, check-in with Bojan Radej as he's 'working the voids' ...