Javier Vinós Challenges Climate Orthodoxy

[@klimatbluffen]

When our politicians are more afraid of farting cows than a global nuclear war, it becomes almost impossible to have an objective debate.

[@willpine7343]

I've said for some time, that we have not for some time been led by serious people.

[@klimatbluffen]

@willpine7343 It's a collection of radio controlled lunatics. When you try to solve problems that don't exist with money that you don't have either, you get the world we live in today.

[@dbmail545]

The AGW alarmists have never agreed to an independently moderated debate.

[@klimatbluffen]

@dbmail545 When they refer to Al Gore and Greta Thunberg as climate experts, it doesn't make matters any easier.But you do know that Greta received an honorary title of doctor of theology so that proves that it is a religion and a harmful one at that.

[@Bravo21]

@klimatbluffen Honestly, I think it is profit that motivates them, not fear. Climate Change is very profitable for those pulling the strings, in Government, Business and Academia. Remember, it's just as easy to buy a 'Climate Scientist' as it is a politician or ham sandwich. Imho the irrational doom mongering and Model Predictions about Climate and CO2 is drivin more by profit and Ego than Science. I am so glad many here and in the Scientific Community at large remain true to the Scientific Method and a search for objective truth. Because too many have abandoned reason and Science for greed, government grants, media stardom and academic accolades.

[@davidbrattain1446]

Finally, there is more sound discussion about solar activity, earth's orbital and axial eccentricities and the climate over long periods of time. Much more "science" needs to be done in this area. We have wasted so much money, intellectual capital and productive time chasing the CO2 phantom. Real, skeptical scientific inquiry is needed.

[@v4panigale26]

@@davidbrattain1446 it’s a very well funded cult and naysayers are ostracised

[@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd]

A phycisit I was watching on KZbin is very concerned with the state of science, except when it comes to cleye Matt change. Then she made a video actually advocating eating bugs so I started researching her. Turns out Sabine Hosenfelder is an agenda contributor to the Vorld ick oh gnome ick for uhm. Suddenly it all made sense.

[@craigwiggins253]

Thank you John and CDN. I am enjoying this conversation very much.

[@whereswendy8544]

"I'd rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that cannot be questioned."

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

thank you feynman for your astute postulation

[@jamesnewton3709]

Richard Feymand

[@alunhuang-wright3030]

"You design your experiments to prove your theory wrong" Wonderfully refreshing to hear an experimental scientist explaining how you do science not dogma.

[@ClimateDN]

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[@iceman850none5]

I’ve always struggled to try and explain this concept. When all data sets prove your theory, how is your theory disproved?

[@alunhuang-wright3030]

@iceman850none5 That is the problem. All ata sets do not support the theory. However many politians do - It's something they can sell. This has resulted in many scientists who worked In the field deciding to leave their positions, as their stand on global warming could cost their institutions valuable funding. Their institutions weren't happy. And that I fear is the tip of the iceberg. Dissenting voices have been cancelled, funding was allocated increasingly for research papers looking for evidence supporting global warming. It looked from the outside like a self fulfilling prophecy. I have yet to see smoking gun linking global warming to carbon dioxide. And I definitely haven't seen anything that conclusively proves that it is anthropogenic CO2 causing the apparent warming.

[@willpine7343]

Eisenhower's Less Famous Warning: Government-Controlled Science

[@marlonlacert8133]

NO 💰controlles all Science! Went to university, and wanted to study a field that would help humanity.. But was told that was a C.L.M. (Carrier Limiting Manoeuvre)! Example: A University wanted funding to study Squirrels. But could not! Until they change the Title of study to: "How Global warming affects Squirrels"! They then got 6 times asked for funds!

[@wstavis3135]

Fascinating conversation.

[@kerryrouse9039]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. We have been told this since we were children.

[@robertanderson5092]

And the solution is always more money

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

tecnically, the sky is always failling 🧐

[@jimringo2569]

My Mom went to school in the first quarter of the 20th century at a very advanced NYC school. The atom cannot be split she learned in physics a little while before the first controlled pile reaction at University of Chicago. Science was settled. Thank you and Dr. Vinos for enlightenment.

[@ClimateDN]

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[@ThomasShula]

John, I am a regular viewer of your channel and it’s great that you brought in Javier Vinos as a guest. I am familiar with his work and I feel it is quite brilliant and in the true spirit of scientific investigation. It is the finest holistic analysis of the global circulation relative to climate that I have seen. I, and a few others, are working on understanding the physics at the “input” end of the climate. I’m hoping that perhaps after your comprehensive discussion with Javier, you might be willing to entertain the possibility that the greenhouse effect exists only in models, and that it is physically impossible in the atmosphere. If so, I will share links to some of the work by myself and others for your consideration.

[@MrBuzzBill]

This heat transfer theory reminds me of sleeping under blankets. When you get too warm, we typically put a portion of our bodies outside of the covers. The circulation of our blood regulates the temperature of our entire body. The poles can be likened to a leg or arm outside of the covers. The albedo of the poles efficiently casts the earth's heat back out into space. A stabilizing mechanism is the reflective albeto clouds that increase as the temperature increases. It figures that this creates a lot of natural feedback variability.

[@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd]

Too much to ever predict accurately.

[@MrBuzzBill]

@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd Agreed!

[@KRAMITDFROG]

Albedo reflects the sun's energy, meaning it isn't absorbed and then reradiated.

[@Bravo21]

We appreciate you both and maybe with the changes in Washington the narritave will change around the Climate fearmongering and drama as well. Let us dare to hope we can finally get the real discussion and eximination we should have been seeing all along.

[@willskol]

Grifters can't sell water vapor or solar change credits but can make gobs of money selling carbon credits on land they don't even own.

[@alman-world]

Well noted. Follow the money

[@alunhuang-wright3030]

Religions were always the same.

[@marlonlacert8133]

Sadly TRUE! Also The Bank that handles Carbon Tax creds, takes 85% as handling fee! Sounds legit?

[@talisikid1618]

@@alunhuang-wright3030not even close to true. But it is true immature souls always rebel against any authority no matter how justified that authority is.

[@abelincoln95]

Thank you, Dr.Vinós and Dr. Robson, it goes without saying your video posts clear muddy waters.

[@ClimateDN]

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[@barkmaker]

Comment for the Al Gore rhythm.

[@joemilwaukee393]

Really enjoyed your guest John. The variables that constitute our climate cannot be pigeonholed to CO2 and I hope change is in the wind before political ideology takes us to much further down this rabbit hole.

[@renato6165]

Un placer escuchar a Javier Vino's .

[@pushlooop]

I read the book written by Vinos and it's great

[@climatebell]

I recently interacted with him on the submarine volcano analysis I was doing, as I was studying the official temperature record, and he was excellent. Much respect to Dr. Vinos.

[@terryelliott9016]

One if not the best and most concise conversations on this topic I’ve heard.

[@ClimateDN]

Thanks. He was a great guest who wrote a great book. And as always please share, subscribe to and support our work.

[@sharonbarnes5603]

I hope we can get people to listen to you both, my husband has been saying for many year's the largest contributor of climate change is the sun, but no one will listen. Keep up the good work

[@marlonlacert8133]

Gets worse! Solar winds could be adding 2X more heat than light! Makes CO2 a moot point!

[@geoffdaniell814]

Excellent choice of an expert in the real Science.

[@MeatLogg]

How Dare You.... challenge the "man-made climate catastrophe" narrative

[@Earthstein]

Exactly.

[@marlonlacert8133]

Look out some WOKE, people will not see you comment, for what it is! Satire looks to elude the WOKE!

[@turkfiles]

A great look into the realities facing the sciences today: as Javier said,, (paraphrasing now) You need people from the outside looking into the work you’re doing to make sure it’s not being influenced by theories, computer models or personal desires that are driving their research. Great interview of a non climate scientist who has, like you, done a ton of research and has a very strong handle on objectivity and reality.

[@ClimateDN]

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[@rumbaughsteven5577]

Thanks!

[@mortkb]

Thank you gentlemen. Such a great discussion about how little is really understood about our climate. I am definitely buying Dr. Vinós book.

[@dbmail545]

AGW has always emphasized positive feedback between CO2 levels and H20 vapor in the atmosphere. A feedback that has never been demonstrated and is logically inconsistent. CO2 has been much higher and temperatures have been much higher historically with no runaway heating as the AGW hypotheses predict. The addition of less than .05% of CO2 to the atmosphere by human activities is not enough (or even close) to have a detectable effect. Almost 50 years of AGW alarmism have NEVER been shown to be even "a little bit right".

[@oldgrumpus8523]

Check out John Clauser's lecture which covers the negative feedbacks from evaporation, convection and clouds which stabilise surface temperatures.

[@ericscustomtile]

We have an alternative theory that I learned about in 2nd grade, way back in 1982. The orbit of Jupiter is roughly 12 years, the orbit of Saturn is every 29.8 years...they line up roughly every 300 years for 3 to 4 years along with solar maximum. I learned this in 2nd grade 40 years ago. Why is this forgotten now? It may be just one part of climate changes but it has a history of recent correlative changes in temps back to over 2000 years ago.

[@vilhelm_sweden2438]

This guy should get the Nobel Prize. He has the humility of a true scientist. That would go some way to excusing the scandal of awarding the 2021 prize to the inventor of the perennially misleading computer models, which Javier Vinos, among many other things, clearly exposes.

[@ivanhunter3907]

Beryllium 10 increases corresponds to the maunder minimum and the mini ice age.. that’s point one. Point two. 63million years ago we had the Tethys sea that was nearly an un-impeded equatorial flow around the earth which held vast amounts of heat.. this is when the artic was ice free.. and it’s certain that atmospheric mechanisms were responsible for the transfer of heat and water with its massive latency.. Anyway I have my set piece below!! Just for your benefit. If you firstly examine Paleolithic records of the co2 levels vs recorded temperatures, you’ll note that there is no observable correlation between these metrics. In essence they plot two independent unrelated scribbles on a graph. Secondly, examine the Hawaii records of co2 otherwise known as 'The Keeling graph' and you'll note that this graph is unable to detect any variation in co2 levels during/following either the Covid lockdowns or the large industrial uptick in and around the year 2000 from both India and from china.. The graph just sailed on along the same trajectory and the curve was unperturbed . However, when we zoom in we can see the seasonal fluctuations related to winter Spring summer and fall yet two of the largest shifts in anthropogenic co2 output remain hidden.. . These are two simple facts that should set of alarm bells in any one willing to think for themselves. So in 1990's ice cores were taken at either end of the planet at the poles. Dansgaurd and Oeschger were the scientist who conducted this field work and these findings were very insightful.. When you examine the data from these Dansgaurd Oeschger oscillations which they established as occurring during the quaternary period, you'll see huge anomalies in temperature data and co2 levels wherein temp rose by 5-15 deg in as little as a few decades while co2 rose from circa 180ppm to 330ppm over the same period and this occurred several times over the 700k year records examined in the ice core data and this is the DO oscillations .. It is this data that Alarmists use to prop up the Al-Gore theory and yes.. there seems to be a synchronous duality between co2 effect and earths temperatures but the facts are THIS.. This is a relationship uniquely linked to ocean gyres/currents which has only become omnipresent since the closure of the Tethys sea.. (The Tethys sea was a equatorial body of water that nearly encompassed the entire mid-drift of the earth wherein warm water permanently resided at the equator and it is believed that Hadley cell styled atmospheric systems of air currents were the prime driver of the heat flux or heat transportation and the main means by which thermal equilibrium was achieved across the globe . When this equatorial sea existed the dual rise and fall of co2 was not evident. Incidentally 63million year ago is when the Tethys sea began to disappear, India slid into Asia and closed the first portion of the TethysSea with last major closing occurring only 3.5 million years ago when Central America was formed via plate tectonic upheaval. But when this sea closed we see DO oscillations. This closure created a new dynamic earth system which was forced to find a new route to equilibrium or a new way to distribute heat evenly over the planet. The oceans where now more restricted or blocked from their east/west travel and currents started to flow north and south along the great continents. This effected the earth's deep waterbodies but it took several thousand years to see the effects.. The effect seen this new equilibrium mechanism heat the oceans and produced the tell tale signs of co2 pulsing with temperature, but again this is only present in recent geological times or since the Tethys sea closure. The principle cause is outgassing of co2 by warming oceans as co2 is less soluble in warmer water. The DO oscillations show this and show that in most instances, it is temperature rise that leads co2. But not always and this leads us to the Milinkovic .. milankovitch cycles. The milankovitch cycle are in essence a geometric function of our position and ordination in space Its mathematically represented by a series of synodal sine waves that captures the earth ‘insulation’ relative to the earths orbit, procession and tilt etc etc.. These waves overlap at different times depending on the earths physical position/ordination. This cycles are somewhat linked to rhythm of DO oscillations but milankovitch cycle only became effective at governing earths climate when the planet had sufficient cooled to allow such a minor effect manifest itself as the great glaciations, previous tho this one might expect that it was more evident in simple weather systems but snow has a lasting effect.. We cooled and snow became more critical to the formation of a new climate structure and the new equilibrium was cemented. However, this equilibrium does change and is susceptible to chaage or external influences by other far reaching forces from deep space. Finally we are led to examine the beryllium 10 isotope data, It is formed in the atmosphere when earth was bombarded with sub atomic particles from deep space. The qualities within the geological despots allow us to ascertain the level of bombardment relative to the geological timeframe. This too was found in the same ice cores and the deposits found show a perfect correlation with known events. One such event being the Mini Ice Age, This was a time when we suffered a near return to deep glaciation which by the way, is the norm for 9/10th of this particular epoch in earth’s history. It is now understood that the sun controls more that first understood. As the earth has a magnetoshear, so does the sun have a heliosphere, the first being a magnetic shield and the later being a plasma based shield that extends out past the Ortt cloud. Solar output energy and the subsequent health of this heliosphere is one in the same. This heliosphere shields the solar system form incoming material from interstellar space, being material most likely ejected from supernova and other large cosmic phenomena . This heliosphere is pivotal to the solar system’s ability to deflect GCR (Galactic cosmic rays:-aka deep space particles travelling at 50k km/sec) as these partials ionize the upper atmosphere and set the stafe for excessive seeding of cloud formation which in turn blocks sun light and increase our reflection or earths albedo.. The levels of beryllium 10 which was found tied in perfectly with our written meteorological records of this time. This finding was further verified via sun spot records, which were recorded in earnest by generations of astronomers who were, at the time, unclear of the relevance of the observations and how it related to climate. A weakening sun over this period was illustrated via the sun spot number or the complete lack there of, this was known as the Maunder minimum. The bigger picture tells us that as the sun weened in output, sun spots activity lessened, the heliosphere weakened and GCR's created more ionized particales in the atmosphere and subsequently more cloud cover formed and earth cooled and this is what was witnessed.. The milankovitch cycles original hypothesis suggested that ice ages were exclusive to only one pole at any one time however, the DO data told us that ice ages occurred simultaneously at both poles thus we were able to see that it's the sun that causes the world wide effect and not 'earth-insulation' The milankovitch cycles were still felt by the relevant poles and this was evident in the order of the aforementioned sequence of events attributed to the time-lines of the rise and fall of co2 and temperature or in other words 'which rose first' The cycles could advance or retard the development of polar ice cap formation but only by around 1000years or less. So it clear now that co2 is just an observed effect of a warming earth and not a driver of climate change.. Remember that the political elite are generally the group of peropel that failed in the real world and they fell into politics. Now they set rules based on an A,B C understanding of climate. Additionally the problem is compounded now as the earths magnetosphere is weakening and it is not entirely clear as to the reasons why.. As such we know it’s weakening because we are detecting Aurora lower latitudes, even though the Sun has not been particularly active.. The one this that clear is that we dont understand what is exactly driving the sun and subsequently the earths climate. We know that we have energy field in space connecting stars, these are known as Burkeland currents and as such it is thought that a stars proximity to a burkeland current drives the stars output and its subsequent plasma field strength. if you are wishing to remain attached to the views of 200-year-old scientific beliefs under misunderstood concepts, then please do so! But anyone who believes that CO2 has the ability to do the heavy lifting of climate change is a clown... I have given you all the facts here! You need now to go and examine these facts for yourselves don't let Dark Green or Deep Green as I like to call it, try and ride the last profits from humanities endeavors. People, please educate yourselves, don’t take my word for it.. co2 is a religious concept to many who are too blinkered to accept flaws in their thinking. Regardless of this or any efforts by the earths populations, nothing will stop our return into the full ice age which is what n our doorstep.. Ice sheets from the poles to 50deg latitude north and south.. wake up ! You're being manipulated by the UN and its unelected bodies.

[@MrCSutton]

That's fascinating information, thank you. All I know is CO2 is given off by yeast to make dough rise to make bread. If that's a pollutant, I'm a unicorn.

[@rocksandoil2241]

I have always believed the albedo problem is key to quantifying weather and that quantification is absolutely necessary to make an accurate computer prediction and even then, there are a lot of nuances in measuring all these data points for a year and not be different year to year.

[@mlkewilson9220]

Thank you John for all you do and a wonderful guests you have. I wonder what the computer models would say if all the data concerning atmospheric aerosol injection was entered into the equation.

[@jeanlesperance3057]

c. 19:30 "whatever we don't know cannot be in a model" - therein lies the fatal flaw of climate models that predict things that are not seen and do not predict things that are measured

[@roylangston4305]

Excellent interview. Keep up the good work.

[@adamwMLB]

Brilliant discussion

[@MegaDeano1963]

Gem of a video . What youtube should be all about

[@the_Kurgan]

"This issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." James Lindsay

[@LookEast-p4e]

Try not to forget that the science is settled. Also, it's all your fault - whatever is happening.

[@Earthstein]

You left out, "And you must give me your money! Because."

[@LookEast-p4e]

@@Earthstein You're spot on!

[@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd]

I am the science.

[@DAVID-io9nj]

It takes a simple mind to think a system as large as the Earth is also simple.

[@therecandyonlyone]

Being given $$ to study one theory to back government policies such as Canada's Carbon Tax is criminal.

[@PFunk-kt9gc]

Only God could create a world where so many complicated factors work in perfect harmony.

[@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd]

If you eat the wrong mushroom you'll find out sometimes they don't. The Siberian traps came close to ending life on Earth in the Permian, not much harmony going on there.

[@sharonbarnes5603]

The science is never settled

[@ricshumack9134]

And arguing that it is settled is an overt attempt to sabotage science by shutting down further investigation

[@deangalvin1977]

Very high quality video. Thank you. Perhaps you could edit a version down to a 5 minute or so highlight reel, for the common man.

[@bboyda4399]

We shouldn't forget that the distance between the sun and the earth has a variability of at least 3.4%. This has also got to be significant.

[@williamgrice1712]

Hasn't anyone ever read Hubert Lamb's Climate, History and the Modern World. History clearly shows climate is cyclic and we are in naturally occurring warm period.

[@ClimateDN]

I looked on Amazon and the price might be a deterrent.

[@marlonlacert8133]

Yes Climate is cyclic.. But we are slowly cycling Down, to a COLD DEATH! (A few Million years from now! I think!)

[@williamgrice1712]

Used $11.12+ $3.99 shipping

[@ClimateDN]

@@williamgrice1712 Oh. I was finding prices over $100. (Maybe because I'm in Canada.)

[@eperson02]

Thank you both for bringing some truth to the issue. The heat transport can't be constant as the ocean oscillation alone would create variations.

[@mlkewilson9220]

I wonder if the greenhouse effect is compounded by the atmospheric aerosol injection program they have ongoing all over the world?

[@marlonlacert8133]

NOTE: CO2 is an Anti Greenhouse gas.. As it travels from down low, to all the way to the edge of the air envelope! To be a greenhouse gas, it must have a max level, long before the edge! See CO2 changes it light absorption with temp. And will rise up when hot.. And thanks to becoming Ionized, it can rise up high.. Taking the heat with it! Turns out at the edge, it breaks up, and the Oxygen it haled up becomes Ozone! And this sends red light off into space! So CO2 acts as a refrigeration factor for EARTH!

[@sonoftheonlywiseGod]

The variability of solar energy in models is dependent on only one of several cycles. There are at least 12 cycles of significance. One has a 960 years another of about 440 and another of 220 or so. Addition of these 3 cycles shows 80/% correlation with data.

[@nitrostudy9049]

The interview reminded me of Lindzen's frequent reference to the Tropics to Poles temperature gradient and how the B-D circulation acted as a partial barrier to mass atmospheric transport of heat poleward from the tropics (but not transfer by ocean circulation) ... I need to reread his excellent work. I think Svensmark's cosmic ray-cloud theory is intriguing and has significance. My guess is that greatest effect occurs mostly in low aersol density regions (eg lower Sthn Hemisphere oceans with little human pollution and low to moderate plankton release of sulfated compounds). In more polluted areas, and areas with high plankton growth, existing CCN density would limit additional cosmic ray effects. I also wonder about cosmic ray-cloud effects at height. That is, does cosmic ray incidence alter vertical structure of cloud type and density. With effect determined by water vapor concentrations and aerosols.

[@alhampton1211]

Add to the list of guests Dr Sallie Baliunas, retired professor and head of the Dept of Astrophysics, Harvard University. Thanks

[@glennryan9770]

Science is a process, not a conclusion. Trust the science is a foolish statement.

[@marlonlacert8133]

Gov, "Trust the Science!" = 'Trust the Scientists that we payed to say what we want them to say!'.

[@MrBallynally2]

Ive come to the conclusion that the climate, including temperature cannot be adequately calculated as the system does not allow to separate one element from another. So nobody knows the precise influence of a variable or can reliably pinpoint the range. It's guesswork. From that point on you can play Occam's razor and do all kinds of unscientific attribution studies but none of it will get you anywhere further than simply naming the elements and state the interactions. But the climate alarmists wont accept the diversity of thought. Obviously because people might get complacent and resist all kinds of top down measures. The main agreed road is to combat real pollution io Co2, clean air and rivers, stop deforestation etc. Clearly never enough for the alarmists..

[@MrCSutton]

All adverse climate warnings are just someone guessing. You have to admire their consistency though. It takes a lot of skill to be 100% wrong 100% of the time for over 50 years. The "climate crisis" exists only in cyberspace.

[@thurmanzhou1304]

A +/- 1% change in albedo results in +/- 1 C in temperature.

[@ronzinn3336]

Do the roaring 40's help insulate Antarctica from heat transfer?

[@shdwbnndbyyt]

A lot of the science across the board is based on ASSUMPTIONS and backed by circular reasoning. Because they hold the assumptions, the evidence is processed according to how well it supports the assumptions, and ANY evidence or data that does not support the assumptions (and thus their funding gravy train) is concealed or discarded or claimed to be false.

[@v4panigale26]

Can someone please explain what happened to the imminent ozone layer disaster ?

[@krisp4889]

There was a Global ban on CFCs (aerosol gas ), this is actual functional environmentalism, as opposed to the current Climate cult.

[@thesmallnotesduo]

Not enough $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ or control to be had.

[@romanpolanski4928]

It turns out that ozone depletion is perfectly natural and has been happening for millions of years. CFC's are irrelevant.

[@alunhuang-wright3030]

Or when the Atlantic conveyor will stop circulating.

[@bobomac8330]

It's still imminent

[@joanwollenbecker2554]

Try reading Weatherman’s guide to the sun by Ben Davidson

[@MrBallynally2]

I always find it funny when people who support the Co2= warming clearly make the connection when it matches recorded temperature rises and then, when it clearly hasnt as between roughly 1944- 1978 blame it on other, natural factors. It's like they switch it on or off when it's convenient. Or they say things like: 'it would be much cooler naturally but the added Co2 made it warmer'. It's like they seem to be fine with inconsistency and then claiming the science is consistent. Well, granted, their inconsistancy IS rather consistant so they get points for that..

[@gavinwood558]

The inclination of the earth's axis toward the sun apparently is not fixed at 23.5 degrees. What if the inclination of the earth's axis varies over a long period of time, say 10,000 years, and that the "wobble" varied between 20 degrees and 26 degrees? Would that not create significant changes to the earth's climate??

[@eperson02]

The solar surface cycles are the source of any warming.

[@AffectionateGouldianFinc-fu8tx]

My comments removed regarding cyclic galactic influence on sun and polish shift 😂

[@ClimateDN]

Did you include links? Sometimes KZbin randomly takes exception to those.

[@paulmarshall702]

Nobody measures the electric force's going through system.

[@nolaspeaker5656]

Which climate changes? How is climate change measured? Asking for a friend.

[@susanshelit]

From ice ages to warmer periods and vice versa. Through overall temperatures

[@nolaspeaker5656]

@susanshelit There's no such thing as "overall temperature ".

[@susanshelit]

@nolaspeaker5656 my apologies: Temperature measured over a lengthy period of time in several places which are then correlated to the temperature in the same area in different times.

[@nolaspeaker5656]

@susanshelit OK. In which decade was it the hottest it's ever been?

[@susanshelit]

@nolaspeaker5656 since it has been measured, somewhere in the 1400's if I remember correctly. Why are you asking me all these questions when you can look up statistics? Even the real ones and not those modified to suit the man made climate change agenda.

[@karldeweese8501]

The Wright bros read the consensus on aeronautics then chose to use the scientific method resulting in powered flight, now with the climate hysteria were back to consensus not science.

[@marktanska6331]

I know we are talking science here. However, humans have need to be guilty of destruction of the environment. This need comes from the fact that most live in cities and yes the modern city is not friendly to polar bears. It is very friendly to pigeons and rats for example. Rich peoples quilt is driving climate religion. It also handily replaces Christian or Muslim religion. (or any other)

[@susanshelit]

Sóme humans

[@keester_1580]

Lots do not match just like our HISTORY!!:)

[@johnpritchard8946]

This was interesting until the statement that the hypothesis presented means the planet is cooling down. I'm about 21 minutes in and I'll see if this changes. If it doesn't the hypothesis fails.. At 25 minutes in and the hypothesis is that Arctic warming means the planet is warming more slowly. All this makes sense but still leaves the question as to why the planet is warming at all unanswered. Solar activity has been declining over the last 50 years. Furthermore more energy from the sun would warm the stratosphere on the way in but the stratosphere is cooling. Nevertheless the heat transfer from the tropics to the Arctic is interesting and goes to show how complex the climate actually is.

[@davidwatkins594]

Scientists are ignoring the fact that our protective Magnetosphere has depleted by 27% since 1859 and is now depleting by 5% per decade. This is allowing so much more UV Solar radiated heat through and worst of all, the additional Cosmic radiation, which is converting water vapour gas into clouds and also combining the Polar and Equatorial jet streams into a chaotic mess, so bringing unnatural extremes of weather to all countries. This will continue to get worse each year. What is causing the Magnetosphere depletion is not for public interest,

[@christinehede7578]

Too many ads.

[@carlubambi5541]

Did not know that cows can fart ??Are they not ruminants ??And digest through fermentation .???Didn't think they could fart like humans or chimps which are omnivores .

[@pascalleyat2274]

I am glad to see that somehow science is still alive. Thank you for your intelligence 🖖🏼🫶🏻