JAWS score restore 6 - Three Barrels Under

Unused portions of John Williams music restored to the movie

[@pat0343]

Remember as a kid that back barrel spinning gave me chills down my spine for some reason.

[@michaelshipman2494]

I love how this bit right here is the part where Quint, who has spent his whole life hunting sharks, realizes that they've bitten off more than they can chew here.

[@910rick]

Too bad the same could not be said of jaws …

[@michaelryan2925]

Comment I came here for. The very last part stood out when Brody asked how far we have to go and Quint just whistled like as far as we need to/we’re not making it back

[@michaelryan2925]

And why he broke the radio a bit later ..

[@knivesinmediaog]

Love how Brody says "F this!!! Im going upstairs!"

[@stevenmoore4612]

Hooper: He’s trying to go under! Quint: I tell ya he can’t not with three barrels on him! Not with three he can’t! Shark: Observe

[@akshaynatu6568]

After putting 3 heavy floatation barrels in him, they needed to just get the fuck out of there. Bruce may be strong but eventually his muscles would fatigue, he would stop swimming and drown. Just like the strongest weightlifter in the world will eventually go unconscious with a very heavy weight permanently strapped to his back. I suppose the only downside is that they wouldn't get to SEE the shark sink and die. But living is preferable to that. And another downside would be a very boring movie, lol.

[@kwl189]

@@akshaynatu6568 it gets worse than that. If Quint, stayed calm and a slowly went into shore then the engine wouldn't have gone and they could have picked up a supplies and repaired the boat. His pride would have been stung but he'd be alive AND he'd have won in the long term.

[@akshaynatu6568]

@@kwl189 Well yeah that's true, but that's unrelated to what I said.

[@kwl189]

@@akshaynatu6568 dunno how you think that lol because it's adding onto what you wrote. Quint keeps his head and drags the shark into shore by going somewhat slowly (sustainably) or hits the shark with some more barrels to slow it down more as well. Either way he's going to win and stay alive because Bruce will drown either by the barrels or he will drown in the shallow waters. Instead the reality of what they're up against hits Quint and he realises they're all out of ideas now. They're out of poison because of what happened to Hooper in the cage, Brody wasn't allowed any serious firearms on the boat or didn't think to take any, the sharks just gone down with three barrels which no shark has ever done before AND nearly dragged the boat further into the sea. Worse still, he's cooked their goose by breaking the radio so they can't call for help thanks to his ego and pride of wanting the kill to himself and the sharks jaws as a trophy.

[@mattpatches8395]

He can't with 3 barrels on him. Not with 3 he can't.

[@rebelracing88]

Quint became obsessed with catching/killing the shark and got carried away when he blew up the engine. You can see it in his face afterwards that he knows their fate is sealed.

[@NonExpertKnowItAll]

No the Shark was catching them and he was scared for the 1rst time since the Indianapolis. He was scared because he relized they were out matched, and the Shark was not playing around anymore.

[@nateebanks]

I always thought too that Quint was just flat out pissed off because even though he’s a great shark fisherman, this one particular shark actually outsmarted him and he knew it. He lost it and before he knew it, they’re chances were killed when he blew the engine

[@LeShark75]

As with Quints Last Stand, its nice to see how the unused music fits but ultimately I like it as is in the movie. Interestingly enough, when I saw Jaws with the live orchestra at the Royal Albert a few years ago, some unused music was used then including the gutting of the tiger shark.

[@LeShark75]

Yes John, I'm sure it was late Oct 2017.

[@DyenamicFilms]

1:10 Great shot of Bruce. He's moving pretty good there.

[@azotheye1563]

Looks like a real great white shark

[@aaronbreeds5132]

the barrels were brilliant... gave us a shark without having to see the shark

[@NonExpertKnowItAll]

What you can't see will always be more scarier than what you can.

[@Romulan2469]

That's the magic of Spielberg and something film makers of today fail to understand. Less equals more.

[@kwl189]

@@Romulan2469 that's a problem synonymous with Hollywood today. Everything always has to be frigging bigger and more chaotic than before. More special effects, more explosions, more crazy action CGI scenes, more this, more that. It's bloody exhausting such a mentality.

[@Romulan2469]

@@kwl189 Agreed, it's why I keep going back to the classics like Jaws because I just can't watch movies of today. There is too much going on, with an overreliance on special effects, CGI and unrealistic action sequences whilst lacking in plot depth, storyline, lessons in morality etc. I think more educated people are drawn to the true classics.

[@kwl189]

@@Romulan2469 Jaws is proof that silence can make more of an impact than useless noise being made noise sake. Subtlety and letting the consumers imagination embellish and create its own terror can be more effective than the imagination of a director, marketing team and a cameraman that takes a trip through a washing machine for a joke during a scene when something actually does happen. For example, when Hooper goes in the water at night when they find that boat and nothing really happens and it seems innocuous. Just at that moment he finds a hole in the boat and the person slides eerily into view with a mangled eye. The quiet of the scene, it really makes your heart thump the first time. Lack of plot depth is a massive issue with modern movies. It's just ridiculous the lack of detail and care taken. It's like the passion died a long time ago. In many old movies, there was no sense of justice or morality but the conveyance that life is cruel and unfair at times like a law abiding citizen dying or being cruelly punished for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Life can be like that. Now, movies are so quick to paint life as idealistic. Everything's neat and perfect and justice prevails all the bloody time etc. if it did, we wouldn't have the corrupt politicians that we do and we wouldn't have the rich running the whole damn world greedy and shaking the commoners for anything extra money like we do now.

[@xtraspecialmango]

Quint is frightened

[@MattAlbie]

And when Quint is scared, we are scared. Brilliant beat in a brilliant movie.

[@briannoonan6985]

Things would have been different, if he could have gotten a few harpoons in the head. The 2 in.the dorsal fin and, one under the chin are just pissing it off

[@stevelogan5475]

Yes, quint is scared, i would be too if i hunted sharks for a living, & had one doing things he had never seen before. Back at the harbor he had hundreds of shark jaw teeth mounted so he wasn't a rookie

[@angelj.cadena4890]

@@briannoonan6985 false. Shooting the dorsal fin is how ur supposed to do it. This isn't as simple as just doin precision shots smh. Shooting the dorsal fin causes the shark to usually struggle to swim under but jaws case not so much. That's y quit n Hooper were in disbelief when he still managed to swim under with 3 barrels on him

[@judyhopps9380]

I think at this point he's "concerned"

[@atommy4625]

It is here that Quint realizes he aint dealing with no bluefish or tommycods

[@roquefortfiles]

The music is not restored. It is the cut from the album. This is not the music in the film. The pause and silence as the barrels go under is WAY more powerful without music than with it. John knows where to put the music and when to get the hell out of the way.

[@danbeck414]

In fact the music from the album is what John Williams composed and recorded for the scene. The decision to dial out some of the music recorded for the scene in most cases is not a composer's decision, but more a director/editor decision. It is not unusual that a score is recorded by the composer and then the director and/or editor decides to not use some of the music and even use some tracks that were composed for a certain scene in other scenes (Jerry Goldsmith's Alien is a famous example, with the blu-ray including the original composer's score and the final version which even retained music that was composed for another movie [Freud] - James Horner's Aliens is a similar case)

[@roquefortfiles]

@@danbeck414 Quints death doesn't need music. That piece that is on line is pointless and overly dramatic. The scene is a 100x more frightening with just the sound of the shark and his screaming. Then the silence of the shark taking him down. Shudder. With music it is over the top and maudlin. That's the Michael Bay version. Spielberg and Williams are both smart enough to know when to let the film speak.

[@danbeck414]

@@roquefortfiles I fully agree this particular scene works better without music (but Williams originally recorded that piece for the scene). It is not unusual that the composer records more music than what is used to give the director options. Another well known example, but to the oposite, is that Hitchcock originaly wanted the shower scene in Psycho to be left without any music, but Herrmann scored it and then Hitchcock liked it better with music and left it in the movie.

[@roquefortfiles]

@@danbeck414 Bruce looks fabulous at 1:14. Love Williams "Majestic" music for the shark.

[@stephenlyon1358]

@@danbeck414 Quint: He can't stay down with three barrels on him, not with three barrels he can't. Martin: What about us? Quint: Hooper, get the pump outta the locker in front of you, will you? Martin: We're gonna sink aren't we? Quint: Hooper, keep an eye on the barrels! Pump it out, chief! Hooper: He's gonna go under! Quint: I tell ya, he can't with three barrels on him! Not with three he can't! [BRIDGE] Hooper: You ever have one do this before? Quint: I don't know. -- Hold fast! SQUARE FORMATION!!!

[@dilpickles5928]

For all of Quints bluster and bravado. it soon became apparent, he was grossly outmatched by the leviathan of the sea.

[@akshaynatu6568]

Wonder why they didn't just head back to shore as fast as they could after harpooning the shark 3 times. Eventually it would get tired and sink to the bottom. It can't drag three heavy barrels forever.

[@angelj.cadena4890]

@@akshaynatu6568 their not heavy barrels. They're called floating barrels

[@akshaynatu6568]

@@angelj.cadena4890 Whatever they are, they make it extremely hard for a shark to keep going under. If he had managed to stick him with a fourth barrel, the shark wouldn't be able to go under and it would have died of lack of oxygen.

[@angelj.cadena4890]

@@akshaynatu6568 they already were but quint overworked the engine. That's y they were stuck n y hooper was speechless on how hard headed quint was being

[@akshaynatu6568]

@@angelj.cadena4890 My point is that even if Brody hadn't blown up the shark, it would have probably died in a few days. It wouldn't be able to drag the flotation barrels forever without getting exhausted and stop moving. Especially if Quint had stuck FOUR barrels in him.

[@medic6yaeta254]

Well how many barrels do you have in him😱!?! ..."have you ever had one do this before?"...

[@kwl189]

Reality bit for Quint when Bruce went down again with the 3rd barrel. Having never seen a shark let alone a great white do that before, Quint was all out of tactics and knew their game was up. The only thing left to do was go back into shore, repair his boat, pick up supplies and come out again. Quint's pride and ego was such that he couldn't cope with the thought at that moment and with the boat also sinking, he made the mistake of running the engine too hard. I think if Quint held his nerve, he and the boat would have made into shore and the shark eventually would tire and die. But Quint didn't just kill sharks he hunted them and kept their jaws for a trophy. Personally I'd have been boring as hell and strapped up as many barrels as I had harpoons and fired them all into the shark. Absolutely saturate and saddle it to the brim and wait it out for the shark to die or make my way in slowly, teasing her in to drown.

[@dennisdrozdov1424]

If you don't mind me asking: Shouldn't Backdraft (1991) have a score restore too?

[@danschneider9921]

The one moment in his life where quindt realized "well we're fucked"

[@Goji66]

1:44 this was a scary secne for me

[@ktlarsen9244]

A shark expert asking a shark fishing expert "have you ever seen this before?" and the answer is no is crazy

[@NonExpertKnowItAll]

In the book Quint actually mortally wounds the Shark stabing it in the Belly with a harpoon when the Shark catches the boat and belly flops over the transom, crushing it, but as the Shark backs off the boat Quint gets snaged by one of the barrel ropes and dragged under and drown. Hooper was already eaten. Richard Dryfuss Chipotle Style.

[@BigKeithDog]

If those are 55 gallon barrels, 3 barrels would create about 1320# of buoyancy. I have no clue what kind of thrust a great white can produce, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to me... Maybe I'm over thinking it...

[@andrewpillion7729]

@Tony Mario Exactly. It was almost supernatural. There's a point in the movie when the grizzled shark hunter Quint is amazed by the shark being able to go under with all those barrels attached to him. "It's incredible..." he whispers under his breath.

[@angelj.cadena4890]

They're floating barrels. Specifically meant to keep a fish from goin under especially deep under

[@macklee6837]

That's the whole point. Jaws was doing things above and beyond a normal great white.

[@roquefortfiles]

Mythbusters did the math on it and said a 6000 pound shark could take the barrels under

[@judyhopps9380]

@@roquefortfiles but for how long?

[@ShadyKoi]

Technically the shark should have 4 barrels on him.

[@davehug5405]

Yeah but they took one off

[@valenhmn8722]

They took the first one off right before quint brokes the radio

[@alexanderbaluch1860]

No..just 3. They took off the first one.

[@lethrneck4]

thats funny by the last barrel i also could swear it was #4, the one i believe that hits brodys in the face..and just figured i miscounted..

[@cc_1983]

Can’t help thinking if quit hadn’t wrecked the engine he might have got back lol

[@fegtynpax5147]

I here a little star wars in there. John Williams was the best

[@doppler6812]

He still is!

[@BinaryRex18]

Imo, Jaws is Williams' best score and one of the greatest movie soundtracks ever. There's a lot more to it than just the two-note theme and it's at least equal to the more uplifting composition of 'Star Wars'

[@mikagekaito]

Why didn't shoot fourth

[@stevelogan5475]

When he opened the box to get harpoon/spear heads, there were only 3, he was out of harpoon/ spear heads to shoot with barrels attached.

[@michaelsong5555]

Can you imagine how easy it would be to hunt down a shark if these ragtag of misfits actually did sane things? (such as using poisonous harpoons?) I don't think anyone was trying to eat that shark, so its flesh being full of poison wouldn't actually affect the hunters.

[@thebrightsidepodcast301]

Facts. But I think the point was it’s easy to hunt a shark. Only this wasn’t a regular shark. Outside of homeboy being a nut the other two def would have been more prepared had they know it was a genius super shark lol

[@michaelsong5555]

@@thebrightsidepodcast301 I think you're confusing this movie with Deep Blue. Bruce (the name of the Jaws shark) was a big shark, but there was nothing super about it, and it definitely wasn't some sort of genius. The reason Bruce was so successful was because the mayor of the city (and most of the city population) was an absolute moron.

[@franknicolosi6970]

@@michaelsong5555 Yea, he was partly successful due to that, but also because Quint probably thought he would be dealing with just another great white, not a 6 ton 25 footer that could drag three barrels under, which he had never seen before. It seems that by judging his facial expressions in this scene, he realizes he's out of his depth and in a world of trouble. Also, remember how at the town meeting Quint wanted to try to hunt Bruce by himself? I wonder how long he would have lasted if he didn't have Hooper and Brody with him. Would be interesting to watch. I figure he'd probably die on the first day.

[@kwl189]

I think they did try go down the poison route with Hooper in the cage. Though the state of the cage afterwards...not only was the poison lost but Hooper was lucky to be alive. It was the 70s so what exactly would a sane thing have been to do? At best that means more heavy weaponary for Brody which could have cause serious bleeding on the shark possibly? The barrel idea wasn't a bad one. I just think Quint needed to stick with it and keep firing them into Bruce whilst making his way into shore. He's guaranteed to win either by drowning Bruce in shallow waters or by Bruce drowning in the sea through the barrels.

[@kwl189]

@@michaelsong5555 Fairly smart of Bruce to batter the boat earlier in the movie and start the leak in the night? Fairly smart of Bruce to let them pick the line up and then run and attempt to pull them out to the sea. Bruce was outmuscling that boats engine easily which is crazy with three barrels on him. Agreed on why Bruce was so successful. One thing that always stuck with me on Jaws 2, is how the same stupid ass arrogant Mayor is still in charge at that stupid ass town full of morons and the way they gawk at Brody in the second movie when he shouts at them and signals them to get out of the water. They all look at Brody as if he's lost his marbles and they've forgotten the events of the first movie. A quite accurate presentation of modern society I find with people having short memories but back then things were quite different.

[@demonofelru3214]

He's trying to go under!

[@roquefortfiles]

Da he cant with three barrels on him not with THREE HE CANT!!

[@lethrneck4]

@@roquefortfiles i remember as a kid going "he went under and timed when the barrels would emerge again right under the ship!WTf?"

[@roquefortfiles]

@@lethrneck4 Just saw it in IMAX. Absolutely incredible.

[@lethrneck4]

@@roquefortfiles me too! $3 this past saturday on national movie day..pretty awesome to see it on a huge screen!

[@mattkylie6723]

The only way they could remake Jaws is to use real white shark with movie-play compassion to The Reef” .. shark wise, not sure who they could cast as Quint, Matt and Brody!!?

[@nickkuzinski5380]

Not with THREE he can't !!