Jay-Z's reaction to being told Eminem killed him on 'Renegade'

No Limit Larry recalls the time he first heard ‘Renegade’ by Jay-Z and Eminem. And how Jay-Z took offense to Larry thinking Eminem outperformed him on the track.
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[@Meepie_Playz]

“Eminem murdered you on your own shit” -Nas

[@FOOTBALLGOAL666]

and then Em did the same thing to Nas lol

[@opblitz623]

⁠@@FOOTBALLGOAL666nah , which song

[@colinharris615]

@@opblitz623EPMD2. Em clearly did bro. Cmon man. Lol.

[@cutthroat_comitty.vulture49]

The song might be on jays album but its produced by em and its an old em song, and jays verse is way better imo

[@RonaldJames-eo2hc]

​@@FOOTBALLGOAL666yeah but Nas still held his own tho.

[@GypsyDanger514]

“He be like, shut the fuck up. I be quiet. But when he leaves, I be talking again”.

[@keithbest1588]

😂😂

[@Bluewave2024X]

Aw Friday good times, good times.

[@omfg666able]

I just seen Friday 2 days ago 🤣 😂

[@7777Lace]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂CLASSIC

[@djlatenight7900]

😂😂😂

[@squirttv69]

"Don't let Eminem go last if you want anyone to remember your verse" - NoLifeShaq

[@RonaldJames-eo2hc]

Dont let him go first or dont let him fo last lol. Its literally his song once he's on it 😂😂😂

[@beenthruhellnback1617]

​@@RonaldJames-eo2hchaha, you know, that statement is the truest ever said!🔥🧡

[@BB13131313]

Em did his verse WAAAY before Jay.. it was originally an Em/Royce song, it's on KZbin.. so Jay definitely heard Em's verse before writing his..

[@aje2321]

Bruh why you quoting that idiot ? 🤣

[@BossHogg88]

Facts

[@andrewellington9503]

Renegade is the reason other rappers were afraid to collab with eminem for YEARS!

[@Migmaw]

According to some rappers it was an actual freestyle off the dome that made everyone go nope not fucking with the white boy. Rick Ross was gonna diss Em to get some clout when he was beefing with 50 and had something written, heard the freestyle and Torey up what he wrote and stopped talking wreckless about Em, a couple others back then did the same and came to the same conclusion including Game. Then in interviews it was all nobody fucks with the white boy he shreds

[@turtleanton6539]

Faxx😮😮😮

[@justthisguy1948]

Like who? Everyone who was big did a song with Eminem

[@Migmaw]

@@justthisguy1948 I think he means big as in popular cause your right most of the big artists worked with Em. Rick Ross was thinking about dissing Em for clout but then heard an Em freestyle so there are some popular artists who were afraid of Ems pen and others Em just didn't Fok with like Rick Ross and Khalid and a few others. But big as in superstar league he worked with most of not all

[@justthisguy1948]

@@Migmaw nobody’s afraid of Eminem 😂 wtf what has he ever done he never went against any elite rappers even needed an army for Ja rule

[@burdman1333]

Crazy part is, Eminem’s verse was already written before it became a Jay-Z track. It’s was an old verse from Eminem who originally had Royce Da 5’9 on the song, but Eminem just left the same verse without changing shit. And Jay STILL couldn’t beat those verses. Eminem haters will never know or admit the fact that Eminem out did JayZ. Only the real hip hop fans know.

[@gocpng4699]

Heard The Same

[@brothacaim]

Real hip Hop fans know em aint all of that

[@nyptbfan]

and Royce bodied Em on that song.

[@chiefnem]

😂😂😂so I guess Jay should've rapped faster🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️ . Because bar wise Marshall got cooked.

[@xXdreamon95Xx]

Jay z my fav artist and Eminem killed em. Nothing bad to get outdone by Eminem he’s a goat. Jay still had some jewels and talked that shit throughout his verses. Eminem’s was just better. The only 2 people who’ve made me skip a Jay verse is Big L and Eminem.

[@johnnygutierrez9855]

When Jay rolling deep “You got em “ When Jay by himself “M got you” 😂

[@codename96]

THATS A BAR FRFR😂😂😂

[@johnnygutierrez9855]

@@codename96 dam my first Bar ever 😂 thanks for noticing

[@SnappingTurtle444]

😁 If Smokey from the movie FRIDAY was a real person. #MindControl #RipDeebo 🚬💨

[@jamaalhorton2343]

He was right!

[@delbertgonzalez1359]

Word bro

[@ChaseN194]

So, in other words, he needed 30 thugs to be with him to save his damaged ego. If you need 30 thugs to save your ego, just give it up man

[@user-ni6bv3fk5j]

That's what I'm saying...let that man have his own opinion about it...idk why Jay z went that route.

[@indigorager]

Listening is fundamental. They were at a music award

[@woodike3300]

So you think jay had 30 guys with him for that reason? Dummy 🤣🫵🏾🤡

[@DrDirtyThumbs]

They was cool, dude was honest, Jay was trolling! Stop the nonsense

[@PhilLashio-xd8dy]

Nah dude was just scared for no reason , Jay just happened to see him and asked him , dude assumed he would get beat up but I seriously doubt jay was on that type of timing it would've been nothing but a lawsuit and made him look bad

[@ELVAMPIROLOKO]

I would have said "yeah em killed you on his shit"

[@ROB-vq5oi]

Exactly 😂😂...if i got to, take the " beatdown " and get a couple mil out the deal

[@DOLLAMAC190]

​@@ROB-vq5oifacts 😂

[@silewis9396]

​@@ROB-vq5oi Conspiracy theorists say Jay Z had people disappearing. You aint getting no deal if you die

[@PontFlair]

​@@silewis9396*"Dead men don't make money."* -Road Warrior Hawk R.I.P.

[@zulaikagould9230]

Me too. I can't lie.

[@UncleRandy73]

Jay heard both verses and still couldn’t out flow Em.

[@zeventic-9584]

🤣

[@RedTought]

Truth

[@wraithyoshidj6702]

Em wrote those verses and that song 3 years prior to Jay even been given the track by Em and Royce. Jay couldn't even out rap a 3 year old song that was never touched after it's initial recording. And Royce shit was better than Jay shit too smh

[@spenser6353]

@@wraithyoshidj6702that’s your opinion

[@wraithyoshidj6702]

@@spenser6353 don't u worry about my opinion, worry about the facts. Jay couldn't beat 3 year old verses.

[@jessedavis1741]

Em always murders the beat

[@Migmaw]

All he said is what everyone but Jay Z has said Em torched Jay, Jay knows it but he won't admit it 😂

[@spenser6353]

He didn’t kill jay. Stop exaggerating. You can think em had a better verse. But he definitely didn’t kill him

[@Polo22546]

Facts!!

[@Migmaw]

@@spenser6353 😂

[@Migmaw]

@@spenser6353 didn't you know? Jay was killed by EM and replaced by the gay painter it's a whole conspiracy cover up government thing 😂 seriously though and I mean this Merry Christmas and Happy New year I wish you and your family health and happiness 👊🏼 stay blessed

[@fitzroy6970]

Jay did admit it eventually in an interview

[@fatheraborigine8291]

Jay-Z was coming from a whole different mindframe. I had a hustle back to the wall, Ashy knuckles.

[@13buddhaMikey]

It's def for different people. Em verse are dope but don't mean much to me. Hov always feels like he's talking for me. It's why music is dope.

[@elvisojo9795]

@@13buddhaMikey em verses mean much to me bro... different strokes for different folks 😌

[@esu8619]

Both verses resonate with me. But when it comes to flow, cadence, and word play, Slim Shady murdered Jay z. And this is coming from my millionth listen.

[@Rolx-gr2fc]

By the bodega iron under my coat feeling braver durag wrapping my waves up pockets full of hope… a whole different mind frame, true we are all entitled to our own opinions but damn let’s stop acting like Jay wasn’t on a whole different level than Em was on that song

[@Rolx-gr2fc]

Jay also said on another song if you don’t like it then look in the mirror most likely you ain’t live it so you don’t get it

[@rjhong93]

Jazz flowed, Em bodied that whole song, hook and all.

[@tookeetalaska1387]

Funny I always thought it was Em's song first. Just cuz of the way he says ... R e n e g a d e 🎵🎶. It was almost like Jay felt nervous saying the hook. Just my opinion.

[@karlovanjak2576]

​@@tookeetalaska1387but originally it WAS Eminem song lol. Listen to to original with Royce

[@ROB-vq5oi]

​@@tookeetalaska1387 man I never thought about it like that but your right. He always seemed off on that part

[@luddman77]

Facts, because em was talking about historical renegades you can do research and see some of the ppl he mentioned then you’ll understand why they went against society. That’s the part no one ever mentions when they talk about this song. Ppl who don’t understand em’s verse are the ppl who don’t read,

[@karlovanjak2576]

@@luddman77 Em was talking about historical renegades?????? He only said that he is modern day Shakespeare and that he is new Ice Cube...THAT'S IT LMAO. "Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?"...PEOPLE WHO DONT UNDERSTAND JAY'S VERSE DON'T READ. Jay said much more than Em but Em had better rhyme schemes and flow.

[@kevinnapier4081]

My boy No Limit Larry!! I'm from NC been listening to this brother for years love that guy RIP Nate Quick

[@louisj4645]

I use to live in the QC back in the day...what would he say when he first come on? "What it do bey"?? I can't remember exactly 😂

[@blackrussian5419]

Morning madhouse, was the littest

[@MillerFBaby91]

NO LEEZY FO SHEEZY 😂😂 I wanna find this interview cause wtf

[@Vee316]

Really Jay-Z you had to get 20-30 brothers. That was foolish enough to punk him to side with you. Wow

[@eugenebrown6477]

How you rate music that thugs with nothing I help em see they way through only civilians think em had a better verse

[@markmercado89]

​@@eugenebrown6477j work wit the feds.He been a civilian his entire life.

[@KevinT-kb1vv]

​@@markmercado89j ain't no feds y'all niggas just be making Shi up

[@treyharris8408]

And that's some pussy shit if he was a real man he would have approached dude by himself 😂

[@matthoward6829]

Idk how jay could even pretend em didn’t kill ‘em on that song

[@spenser6353]

That’s because he didn’t kill him

[@darwinashby7368]

​@spenser6353 em mollywhopped him actually

[@spenser6353]

@@darwinashby7368 Not to me

[@loading...4082]

No matter who it is, Em always kills!

[@Deathstroke-mz5ty]

Wrong... Lil Wayne held his own on both songs

[@hmsp7799]

@@Deathstroke-mz5tycap

[@chideraokechukwu7667]

​@@Deathstroke-mz5ty Cap

[@vypbeast2898]

​@@Deathstroke-mz5ty🧢

[@Deathstroke-mz5ty]

No Cap wtf... ya'll crazy if you don't think wayne held his own

[@WilliamK44]

Jayz took a L just like Jarule 😂😂😂

[@trisanone-ya-business7803]

Ja and Em have never made a song together. No comparison to Jay and Em. You're sounding like a super Stan right now. As an Eminem fan, shut tf up.

[@cutthroat_comitty.vulture49]

What?

[@beenthruhellnback1617]

😂

[@one_uninterested_introvert]

Big difference there buddy.. smh

[@donivangroesbeck625]

Damn kids

[@rawthersramblings]

EM killed Jay-Z on ‘Renegade’

[@steventipton7369]

Definitely didn't kill him. You might think he had a better verse, but to say he killed him is eminem D riding. I prefer Jays verse but Ems cadence made the song.

[@spenser6353]

Na. He ain’t kill him. Stop exaggerating

[@Classic7-4-7]

"MC murderer" for a reason 😤

[@dual_KODACHIS]

This song is amazing to me. One guy is a renegade because he’s a former drug dealer who found his way to real success. The other guy is a renegade because of how the American media tried to demonize him for making art.

[@abongilezolanipeterson5588]

@dual-KODACHIS ain't nobody tried to demonize Eminem but Eminem himself. You can't sing about raping and poking your own mother and consistently release tracks about dissing her and then claim the media is the one demonizing you. You don't get to say all that stuff and then play the victim. If you gonna sing about it, then face your reality.

[@luddman77]

So I guess a drug dealer who is selling illlegal drugs has demonized himself as well.

[@campbelltown_]

@@luddman77seriously stop your making too much sense

[@sleeperino3054]

They contrasted eachother. Both killed the beat

[@luddman77]

No they didn’t. Royce & em did

[@sleeperino3054]

@@luddman77 Yes they did. They made a superior song to Royce’s version.

[@maczilla4648]

i think jay was right, em's natural style is somewhere between treach (naughty by nature) and rakim (stacking, rhyming inside of the rhyme) not that em ain't give it up on renegade, he absolutely did, but jay did as well, he just wasn't as acrobatic with his flow that time, but lyrically dat boy jigga cooked, "do not step to me, i'm awkward, i box lefty, an orphan, my pops left me, and often my mama wasn't home", that shit hit me different, i'm not a southpaw, but everything else applied, em was fantastic as well, but dat boy jigga touched me with that verse.....RESPECT!

[@PaulSmith-nb6md]

Nah....he got killed on his own song. If anything Em's verse really stayed focused on the topic of the song while Jay used it to hype himself up.

[@maczilla4648]

@@PaulSmith-nb6md you can think em "won" but jay couldn't have got it wrong, it was jay's record.

[@PaulSmith-nb6md]

@maczilla4648 I mean facts are facts, Em was the key to that song. Without him it wouldn't even be much of a factor because Jay has never been that dude

[@maczilla4648]

@@PaulSmith-nb6md u sound crazy, jay's always been that dude (1 of em) ssles branding, cultural relevance, and lastly, .....BARS!, for about 20+ yrs, "10 #1 albums in a row, who bedda den me?, only da beedles, nobody ahead a me",....STOP!

[@PaulSmith-nb6md]

@maczilla4648 Bruh he has never been top 5 rappers ever. He doesn't have the kind of BARS needed to stand with the true GOATS and this is proven by the fact Em murdered him on his own song. Wayne sure as hell wasn't gonna let that happen. Sure he is relevant but that has nothing to do with lyrical skill. MF DOOM was never popular in the mainstream media and yet lyrically stands above Jay without even trying. Drake sells like Crack because he appeals to white people, but he isn't a GOAT either.

[@sallywoolverton9147]

Eminem bodied him so hard beyonce couldn't buy him him out of that one!!!🎤🎤🎤

[@WilliamK44]

Ong😂😂😂😂😂

[@beenthruhellnback1617]

😂😂😂

[@godsson149]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂😂😂.

[@spenser6353]

@@WilliamK44em didn’t body him. Step the cap 🧢

[@FinesseTheFrank]

It was originally Eminem & Royce's song

[@tonywilliams5583]

Choose my own fate.got to the fork in the road and went straight..hardest bars on that song.

[@williamphillips5474]

Once again that line...Is Parrish Smith from EPMD...nope

[@PontFlair]

​@@williamphillips5474it's also Cappadonna from Wu-Tang Clan, who was cool with EPMD. *"I came to the fork in the road and went straight, right out the Crack vial to the Golden Gate, see the silver spoon in my mouth, it had cake.."*

[@KingCapricorn115]

Cappadonna - ​Slang Editorial

[@luddman77]

@@williamphillips5474and that’s his proof of jay verse being better than em😂 stolen lyrics

[@williamphillips5474]

@@KingCapricorn115 once again Epmd...Cappadonna bodied the entire WU YES well knowledge about the wu...talented and natural game

[@kingacethegreat]

by the bodega iron under my coat, feeling braver do-rag, wrapping my waves up pocket full of hope. - Jay Z Em did his thing but Jay spoke my language.

[@luddman77]

That not even a top 100 jay verse. It’s nothing special about that line.

[@RSHjr]

Jay wish he put fear in guys .. he wanted to be tough so Bad 😂

[@perkyharvin4437]

Exactly 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@klahowya32]

Cant we all just agree It's one of the best tracks in the modern hip hop era? They both murdered that amazingly well made beat, and we just out here nitpickin tryna see "who's better". The song is just God tier, leave it at that

[@bjt81366]

No we can't. This is hip hop and that is how we have always done it. This ain't nitpickin, that would mean it was close. Jay did not kill it. He got handled and it's ok. Jay is still the biggest baller in the game. And, that's all Jay cares about.

[@Imamachine7]

I’m sorry brother I can’t agree with that. Em killed that verse. Jay…let’s just say it wasn’t his best work.

[@njoydajourney]

Jay-z's best work is consistency and laid back flow almost lazy. Jay-z killed his verses using his own style that has always been him. Eminem switches in and out of flows but his cadence is hyper active like DMX or any white rapper for that matter. They always sound like they are yelling and super aggressive on records. Their styles were contrast so the more energetic one works for the "win" but both styles fit the beat perfectly.

[@luddman77]

It’s one of the best tracks in hiphop history because of em

[@luddman77]

@@njoydajourneyno em had better meaning, it followed the topic of the song better. Everything was just better than Jay. And I’ve heard jay some of those type of rappers and I’ve heard jay out rap them too.

[@kennydomino2134]

Jay-Z literally lost a battle to everybody a multiple head-to-head collaborations therefore he cannot be the best rapper from that alone

[@jaxfan]

Jay z got one of the best discographies in rap history. Nothing but classics. Who is em not outflowing on their songs. I can understand people not liking Jay z but I just don't understand the hate he gets in the rap game. Give that man his flowers.

[@bgko91880]

The threat of intimidation doesn't change a fact, if anything, it just reinforces it.

[@alexanderk7422]

The Eminem verse on Renegade was more captivating at first glance... meaning his verse/flow sounded cool. But, if you listen to what he is actually saying... Jay-Z was spitting some real knowledge (Gems) plus a few double, triple, and probably quadruple, entendre... It took me awhile to realize Jay actually had the more meaningful verse.

[@jaludseidutonzua668]

Em was telling a story based on how people view his lyrics at face value and it's impact on society (especially the kids/youth) and use it to judge him in real life. He also highlights on his upbringing and life from rags to riches in the game. Jay on the other hand talked about the tough time in his childhood, neighborhood, growing up and the lessons he learned from that poor state to his current state doing him. Both spoke about factual issues about their upbringing and raise to fame doing them from their personal perspectives. That makes it a classic track. The difference in the song is the delivery which em effortlessly flowed and outrapped Jay. His breath control and choice of words is brilliant and impeccable.

[@joeytoonz2754]

Lil Wayne killed that renegade beat too

[@lcasanova2546]

Yesssss

[@revolg268]

One writes a verse, one recites a verse. Its apples 🍎 to Oranges 🍊

[@LivingMerman]

And the funny part was Em already wrote his verse 😂

[@alfie3597]

Em even said himself “some of them verses were crazy on that renegade beat”

[@phoenix2773]

JZ got a mob type attitude. Don’t like him.🤮

[@fuierago]

I think this was more like a "the real slim shady" entrance homage...

[@KevinT-kb1vv]

Phoenix2773 I'm pretty sure Jay z don't gaf if u don't like him bruh

[@TheRedConstituents.]

It's the reason most black artists try to down play em. They hate he kills shit. His worst is they best.

[@boxchevyrollin]

80 percent of his music ass

[@TheRedConstituents.]

@@boxchevyrollin you down terrible😂😂😂

[@THEORIGINALKINGCHARMING79]

😂😂😂😂😊

[@THEORIGINALKINGCHARMING79]

How is em down played

[@spenser6353]

@@TheRedConstituents.stop all that D riding

[@paulhenry7886]

I love Jay's verses

[@evelyntaylor4470]

Me too. 😊

[@nottodayimbusy7146]

I love both verses they both killed it I just think em had better verses

[@genopierre7840]

It depends on what u like or can relate to in my humble opinion Em did not torch Jay,Jay came from a perspective of hustling & struggling something I can get with & it was like painting pictures.Em came from a different way that was revolutionary & controversial but was dope also but I'm taking Jay verse or Em

[@genopierre7840]

I'm taking Jay verse over Em

[@luddman77]

It was mid as fck

[@rashidsavage6806]

I don’t think it was a competition I thought both came with their own flow, lyrically speaking and I’m not a rap head like that both were on point, I definitely have that in my workout playlist

[@bjt81366]

What are you talking about? Yo Brah, this is hip hop, this what spittin is about. People who know rap understand what happened. But you did say you don't really know that much so I get it.

[@rashidsavage6806]

@@bjt81366 yeah, thanks for understanding the lens in which I look through, being a DC dude GO-GO is the foundation of music in DC and not rap

[@heetwav7]

Eminem always makes jibberish sound good. I'll give him that

[@sumyungchong]

Don't be sad a white boy can hang with the top rappers in the world.

[@rabbitshady499]

@@sumyungchong most black people are secretly racists and that's just sad

[@shady.219]

EVEN JAY KNOWS

[@yeechi00]

even wit 100 deep i woulda said hell mf yea he outflowd u son

[@LH-qw5ie]

QCs No Limit Larry 😊

[@AncientFarts_]

Eminem smoked em with ease.

[@TV1stTime]

Still would have told the Nicah YEA HE got You

[@SAINT_PATRICK]

Since im in the position to talk to these kids and they listen I aint no politician but I'll kick it with em a minute- the hardest start to a verse I can remember

[@cravenlevay8761]

Jay Z Overrated!!!

[@beenthruhellnback1617]

Thank you!! I been sayin that bout his whole damn career!!

[@kartikdhingra9973]

​@@secondaccount6660em always proved himself whenever it needed, whatever everyone say but they have to agree the fact em just built different that's why he the center topic.

[@casteltheghettomonk4392]

​@@secondaccount6660both are pretty much with privilege

[@Efical]

@@casteltheghettomonk4392 dafuq are you smoking? Em came from litteraly rock bottom, he was homeless before Dre signed him and Jay also didn't have anything. Neither of them where privileged they earned it.

[@JasonWilliams-um8im]

Hater Logic

[@darrellbarnes2096]

This song is the the reason we say "He murdered you on your own song"

[@imsofocused4678]

No! Nas is the reason we say that. Nas said..."Eminem murdered you on your own shit."

[@alphonzawill]

Y'all need to relisten to Renegade. Eminem spit the catchier verses. Jay spit the coldest and deeper verses

[@luddman77]

No he didn’t. Jay was mid

[@c.j.rodriguez7323]

Yup no 🧢 and welcome to D -Block wit the loxs 💯 😮😮😮

[@morristyson1]

Kiss had the best verse

[@jaybrdoubleez]

As a kid Em just sounded better. As an adult, Jay-Z’s actual words were better. So who being better depends on what you’re into. Relatability or just killer flow

[@flipflop8989]

I actually hate when they do that to anyway it don’t have to be a competition it’s just a good Fuckin song. Let it just be that You sound like you prob think the same way

[@Xilent1]

@@flipflop8989 I think that's why a lot of people liked Lil Wayne ft. Eminem " No Love" track. They both didn't spit there top tier bars. They just did there thang and got paid for being 2 top artist people wanted to hear on the track. The hood may have made it a competition or hip hop heads, but everyone else like the people who found out about Wayne when he released Lollipop aren't those types.

[@flipflop8989]

@@Xilent1 I hear that

[@jaybrdoubleez]

Agree with both of you!!! Hip hop used to have a competitive edge to it but now everyone is the same so none of this from 2001 matters

[@djsammysosa1]

So as an adult, you didn't get any smarter. Got it 👍🏽

[@smalls6450]

Jay z verses were slept on if you really listen you’ll hear the quality bars it took me years to hear it. Em flow was animated and colourful but jays verse connects with the struggle

[@michaelswinburne4350]

I think your comment is fair

[@Efical]

Jiggas verses where amazing but at that time Em couldn't write about the struggle anymore, he was already the biggest name in the game and had other problems, it wouldn't be hip hop for him to talk about struggles he doesn't have anymore. Which to be fair, Jay also didn't have at that time anymore.

[@mrrousseau8493]

EM’s verse sounded great when it first came out but Jay’s ages much better.

[@kamogelosothoane5277]

​@@mrrousseau8493Nope

[@Rolx-gr2fc]

Mommy’s knocked up cause she wasn’t watched over knocked down by some clown when child support knock no he’s not around now how that sound til you jot it down… don’t even get me started on that 2nd verse. Em verses was cool but Jay was just on another level

[@akeemMagic01]

Jay killed that. Eminem made the song with Royce. He produced the beat. No one said that until either 🤣 and I mean no one was saying that. Eminem def spot his best verse on that if you ask me. I think people should go listen again and not be biased. Jay made that song different he paralleled Eminem from a black american perspective. Genius

[@ShuckMeOff1]

Jay z was absolute garbage on that shit

[@jaxfan]

Yeah man. I just don't understand the hate Jay z gets. The man has nothing but classic albums.

[@user-fi5ng5cj9s]

Exactly!!!!!

[@odizza1688]

Man if you don't get off Hov's meat. There is no scenario where Hov's verses were better than Em n Idk where you're from, but New Yorkers KNEW that shit. Nas just confirmed it for the masses on Ether

[@peterhernandez7817]

Bruh, the day I heard Renegade, I thought Jay was beat. There's nothing wrong in losing to a Em or Wayne or Jay.

[@tailoredfor831]

They both went off, it's all about your upbringing and which one you can relate to.

[@RyLifeWeekly]

No it's not.... I'm white and I've never been into bangin so why do I idolize 2pac?

[@HeadIn_TheClouds]

"But when he LEAVES! I BE TALKING AGAIN!" -Smokey

[@carlmustard4841]

Even Royce bodied Jay-Z on renegade.

[@dmariolandrum6253]

5'9 is nice

[@carlmustard4841]

@@dmariolandrum6253 everyone used to bite nickel now they doin bitcoin

[@user-qr4zx3ue5m]

I would have still said it tf😂

[@seangrabowski3142]

“You think his poem is better than mine?” Bringing a posse over poems aahaha 😂

[@workinginthewell3498]

modern day Shakespeare

[@mdaniels3rd]

No limit Larry....Charlotte legend

[@marlon9191]

He murder you on the song 🎵 you could be told 1000 ways you got killed on your on song and you still wouldn't believe it

[@masterofthecraft1990]

Jay died and he’s in my top 3 😂 Em is my 1

[@amareeljamii8610]

Always stand on ya word. Don’t back down to anyone

[@buddhalee6670]

I’m more amazed that No Limit Larry is the person in this video 😅

[@cliftonrichards1954]

Listen to tha song again.Jay was spittin some real ish.Jay didn’t get murdered on it.

[@user-fi5ng5cj9s]

Exactly! Jay had content. I felt him. "Now how that sound, I'll take you thru the ghetto without ridding round. "

[@odizza1688]

Nigga shut up. YOU go listen to it again n remove Hov's meat out ya mouf 1st. You can like Hov's verses all you want, it will never change that Em murdered him on numerous levels.

[@oscarb6320]

Finally somebody that took the time out and accidentally listened to the song. Jay z was killing that track, list to his content. I guess I can relate because I grew up in the hood. To be honest it sounds like em was just complaining on the verses .

[@Snapbackboy22]

Dawg I just told somebody that listen to that second verse “by the bodega….iron under my coat…feeling braver….durag wrapping my waves up…pockets full of hope” the flow pattern & the vividness of that makes you imagine that shit lol that is pure art

[@PickEmUpMessEmUp]

Yeah lyrics Jay I think people was just so mesmerized on how Em floating on that Beat , but in my humble opinion I think Jay got it

[@yetzchaqeaton6888]

We all felt that!!!

[@chellertube]

Jay-Z is criminally underrated in that track. His 2nd verse (3rd overall) is elite.

[@tonyamartin1425]

just like Wayne and drake both killed forever bother elite verses buy EM was still better no matter how you cut it

[@chellertube]

Debatable in this case, in my opinion@@tonyamartin1425

[@6building128]

Hov lyrics always go over your head. No one ever out flowed that dude on a song

[@bjt81366]

Ok

[@familydiscount-ne5nz]

Lol Jay GOATED to me and even I can admit accouple Niggaz got em on a song. Dmx, Beans, Em, etc. there’s a list my boy.

[@6building128]

@@familydiscount-ne5nz I disagree, what song with DMX. I know on Blackout it was all about Hov. Even Swiss admitted that. And Beans never out rapped Hov. You buggin right now.

[@DBoyizClutch]

Nicki ate that man up on Monster too. Let’s not act like Jay never caught an L. No rapper is undefeated they’ve all been got at some point in their careers.

[@6building128]

@@DBoyizClutch Nikki? You are HILARIOUS 😂

[@johnQrl]

I always preferred the JayZ verse on Renegade and I still remember his second verse word for word. It hits way harder than Ems.

[@virgilijusbernikas1666]

😂well Eminem. Later Nas bodied in beef and people will say nonsense like Jay z was killing it in 2000s 🤣

[@dpowell468]

Its not nonsense though. Yall hate jay z so much yall become delusional. From 98 to 03 all his albums. Even his r kelly collabs. His roots collab , his linkin park collab ALL platinum.. all hit number one.. his first 2 album didnt debut at number 1 but both went platinum in 2000.. jay z is the 4th best selling rapper ever and is the only one out of that 4 that owns his music...Eminem sold more records cause he's a white dude. UK and US will bump Eminem before anyone else for that reason alone... with that said he sold a couple million more records than hov but hov gets paid more off each album cause he dont have 3 people to pay before he gets a dime. Yall like to say nas killed jay z but 2002 the bp2 dropped and it sold more than bp1 a year prior lol then black album came out in 2003 that sold more than bp2... nas biggest selling album is the one he dissed hov on..jay z gave him his biggest moment FACT...nas biggest HIT is ether... jay z got bigger since the beef in and OUT of music. Stop the bs...its a bitter pill but its all facts

[@virgilijusbernikas1666]

@dpowell468 well the fact still stands Nas won beef. Yes Jay z was more views and more sales. Still bodied on Renegade and on Ether.

[@virgilijusbernikas1666]

@dpowell468 i got Jay in top 10 easy. Ain't no hate in my hearth i just state what happened.. Got bodied on Forever and Ether

[@helenaj9436]

​@@dpowell468I stopped taking you seriously when you mentioned skin color. 🙄 If Em was chocolate nobody would say shit abt color.

[@CSpad]

​@@dpowell468just say ya wanna suck hov off, saves all that time on the book you wrote that no1 gonna read. Jays biggest tracks are collabs & gets # bumps cause of Beyonce & buying his own albums to pad stats. Not to mention Live Nation. Real 1s know Naz a better MC & even Hov has admitted Em took him on that track. You gotta a lil something on your chin.

[@ojjuice5096]

“I got mind control over Debo, when he tell me to shutup, I be quiet, but when he leave I be talkin again”

[@Jthanson88]

“Get Dre on the phone quick, Em just killed me on my own shit”

[@stevenaarontyler9552]

They both spit incredible word play on the record. I salute em both

[@Sagnasty17]

As eminem doesn't say a word and keeps to himself😂 eminem did kill him on it

[@hak3739]

Why I thought this was Jordan on the thumbnail! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@leadbyexampleearningbuisne7473]

They both spit fire on there listen to jay ...I had to hussle back to wall ashy knuckles pockets filled with a lot of lint...not a cent...gotta vent ...another of innocent lives lost ....they both killed it em killed it in his own way the tole a story ...and it was a song better than most songs today....the compliment each other and still been themselves...100 percent

[@aksin7022]

People who say this don't listen to lyrics they just skim through it.. that 2nd verse from Jay is the best verse on the entire song..

[@toriblaine3676]

No it wasn’t. Jay’s versed were great but Eminem’s were just better. Nothing wrong with admitting that

[@user-ot2ty7hd1f]

Jay z's verse goes over alot of people's heads, it went over mine when thr song came out

[@mari21304]

Jay said "I bring you to the ghetto without riding round, ducking strays from frustrated youth". Come on, man, yall better go listen to that again, and I love Em.

[@kanofactsa5551]

Exactly people are goofys

[@focalpoint1609]

He was good! But Eminem’s flow, word play and rhyme scheme was on an entirely different level on that song.

[@kanofactsa5551]

@@focalpoint1609 what rhymes exactly were better ? I think Jay-Z verse went over your head or you're just biased

[@calantheshaman]

You really think that line is hard? It's pretty basic.

[@kanofactsa5551]

@@calantheshaman and you think anything Eminem said wasn't basic it was a typical Eminem verse talking about how people don't like him and how he's not a role model that's it nothing amazing about that

[@monsterbrandman]

Is that No Limit Larry? I haven't been in Charlotte in years. Good to see he still doing his thing.

[@Wormanatti]

Translation: I wasn't being a man & standing on mines lol.

[@jcjaymo357]

Yall bugging, jay-z definitely killed em on renegade. Don't let others influence your judgment, listen for yourself.

[@blackpaisley5156]

"Don't let others influence your judgement" Often said by mfs that are the easiest to influence

[@SupernovaSun77]

I never thought that Jay was 100x more relatable to me tho

[@talonkarrde2578]

FAX

[@roadrunner7441]

You must be 🌈 or white

[@SupernovaSun77]

@@roadrunner7441 😂 this I the funniest shit I’ve ever read. 😂 very emotional response

[@antoiner3820]

It's funny how they both were rappin about different things....

[@marlond.turner6263]

Goes to show you the difference in those who actually "hear" and those who are fascinated with bells and whistles 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@obaidbaig2058]

Jay's verses aged much better than Em's. At the time that Em flow just sounded so good we couldnt even focus on what was being said. To this day the most quoted lyric from that song is "Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?"

[@luddman77]

No it didn’t. Em is mentioning historical figures and how they became renegades. While jay talking about boxing lefty, often, & orphans, while his stomach grumbling

[@obaidbaig2058]

@luddman77 ya u don't listen to music u definitely skim through it

[@luddman77]

@@obaidbaig2058 I guess you lived in a fatherless home with no direction, like Jay!!! That’s why you relate so well. For me that wasn’t the case

[@obaidbaig2058]

@luddman77 ya I guess you're debated disputed hated and viewed in America as a drug addict.. and that's why u related to that

[@luddman77]

@@obaidbaig2058 his point was, how you going to talk about me, when you guys experimented too or went even harder. He just pointing out the hypocrisy!!!!😂😂

[@frederickredman9306]

Even with him having 30 dudes with him I still say em killed you on that song

[@BLMeredith87]

​@@secondaccount6660dying with dignity

[@nimmha6708]

kill? lol... Sure @@secondaccount6660

[@randyhoffman3895]

Ridiculous y'all, I just listened to this song 3 times before commenting, please please, go listen with adult ears, this was 22 years ago, Em was still slim shady and telling his 8 mile story on this song yet again, Jay has always had a mature style of rapping that most people wont get with just one listen because it's not considered party music, bruh was spitting straight facts of life while Em was only talking about how nobody believed in him, Em just has a different cadence than Jay on the song, definitely not better lyrics, listen to Jay's opening bar. "Are y'all listening or just skimming through it?" personally I prefer the more mature bars, but to each his own...Salute!

[@williamh.gatesiii8183]

Nonsense.

[@560GamingTV]

@@williamh.gatesiii8183I agree

[@ImmyJLP]

Look at how much you typed to try and sway people from the truth.. Jay got killed and it’s okay. He’s still a legend

[@BigNobodies]

He should listen to it again. Read the lyrics while you do it too.

[@youngfetti]

No limit Larry wassup mane much luv from the #Roc #SC #803

[@lyamgray9796]

The only rapper Em didn't murder on a track as a feature was Tech.

[@user-bo2kp1gv6y]

lol Wayne too

[@chrisnguyen7424]

Wayne

[@rootstriker1618]

@@secondaccount6660i love banks but ur crazy if your insinuating, he’s better than em or out rapped him

[@bradlayhughes6043]

Never murdered royce

[@lyamgray9796]

@@bradlayhughes6043 true

[@abkach3405]

Em just had more energy, he didn't outflow Jay.. he got props for being up to par

[@saintofthemosthigh82]

😂😂😂😂we what? You're delusional

[@Coltavena]

What a sad comment. Em easily showed why Jay is not no goat. He's Mr.beyonce

[@bjt81366]

Stop it brah, stop looking with emotion. He got crushed, it was a slaughter. He was definitely not on par.

[@abongilezolanipeterson5588]

​@@bjt81366Em definitely got the better of JayZ but in no way was it a slaughter. Not even close

[@Mundanesoup4]

Damn, i thought they were both perfect on that song. I think both of them had awesome versus.

[@metalgearmista]

Damn, when did No Limit Larry go viral? & when has Jay Z ever come to Charlotte? Pleasant surprises

[@bubba4517]

yeah i’m taking jay z verse over em

[@billysummers1616]

Jay Z is trash, most overrated rapper ever

[@luddman77]

No

[@mugiwaranomohamed5955]

Only busta rhymes and lil wayne who stood toe to toe with Em

[@od3rfla]

Being an Em fan, busta would probably out rap Em and lil Wayne can stand toe to toe

[@twill5077]

​@od3rfla now this is a fact. Aint too many fuckin with Busta.

[@shirish1754]

​@@od3rflalol no. They did a song calm down and busta's verse was mid af. Em outrapped him.

[@Iamhimberly]

From the thumbnail I thought this was mj

[@zakjones1277]

Daam never knew bro was that big been hearing him on 97.9 Charlotte since I was a kid

[@loxleysinclair3305]

😂😂 J gat killed in is own song😂😂😂.

[@chyname]

To be fair it was really Eminem song

[@AncientFarts_]

Doesn't mean anything a top tier Mc couldn't beat a pre-recorded verse with his fresh verse Eminem brought it an Jay did too just not on Eminem's level everything about Em's verse just stuck out more.

[@ludiajoe6597]

Right 👍

[@moeketsimafole8475]

I have listened to 'Renegade' millions Of times. I even heard the version With Royce. Jay & M are twins 😅😂.

[@1SULLiVISION]

They really were 1-1 fr. Eminem dominated the first verse, and Jay dominated the second verse