I Spectated a 0 IQ Cheater DUO in Overwatch 2 and was BAFFLED...

[@enriquesanta-ana7925]

I wish they'd have a cheat detection and instead of banning the player, just set their queue up against other cheaters so everyone is raging at one another. Tbh, I think it'd just be really fun to watch

[@GaussianEntity]

I believe there was a cheaters queue in OW1 but I can't confirm

[@nevermindthebull0cks]

This would be awesome, they could just have competing ai's sniping at each other while they typed trash in chat about what owl team they are on:)

[@catgirlow]

that’s a thing in csgo

[@nexaentertainment2764]

Doesn't blizzard do something like that? I do know they flag cheaters and then ban them in waves. -Or at least used to in ow1, I presume they still do the same-. Makes it harder for cheat creators to circumvent anti-cheat since they don't know if their cheats have been detected yet or not, they only find out when a new ban wave comes around. Honestly kinda sucks tbh, since it allows cheaters to keep playing. But it's a cat and mouse game, if you insta-banned cheaters, the cheat makers would just test out new cheats on fresh accounts all the time (especially now that it's free to play), so they'd be able to constantly out-pace blizzard. Anyway point is, I wouldn't be surprised if they have a cheater lobby system or something similar at least. Where suspected/flagged cheaters don't rank as quickly or easily or smth.

[@fireblaze6837]

That sounds fun byt would encourage some to cheat to get into cheaters qu.

[@Dabenport]

that kiriko had 80-90% accuracy and there are still people in chat thinking hes legit lmao

[@salivablueberryguts7740]

look at 5:36 when hes shooting the sigma then suddenly turns to the teleporter , hits it, goes right back on to sigma. it is so obvious they are cheating

[@sese8976]

Can also be a Smurf

[@karamei]

@@sese8976 A smurf who heals walls, enemies, and turrets. Surely

[@mekhicalliste8732]

Pretty sure its just a smurf most of those shots seemed reasonable he's probably just trying to dps in a lower rank for fun

[@iwunderful3117]

@@karameihe healed like that because he didn’t turn the kiriko specific setting off so it releases all ofudas without stopping Instead of being able to stop the stream of ofudas

[@beni9129]

The kiriko was pretty obviously cheating, she was looking at people through walls a lot. but what gave it away was how stupidly innacurate she was with her healing ofudas vs how accurate she was with her kunai.

[@Real_MisterSir]

Kunai: 60% bodyshots, 30% headshots, 10% missed shots Ofuda: Spray-and-praying in the general direction of what may be a team mate, may be a wall. Who knows.

[@musicxxa6678]

Both of them very obvious yeah.

[@henrycelin8929]

healing theater tickets

[@ElyskeTheDonut]

That Kiriko must of had like an 88% hit rate - fuckin’ wild.

[@ddgamingty2005]

The kiriko was following people through the walls

[@SiIverback]

🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@igetwoahs3073]

Same on the hog in the beginning. Then when he switched to orisa he some how always knew where the mercy was and then on top of that had absolutely perfect tracking. Too sus

[@PX6DEVASTATER]

There's been a couple of these where it's blatantly obvious they at least have walls within the first 10 seconds of the video and Jay and his chat apparently don't notice it.

[@lottery2648]

theres just no way the kiriko would be smurf if he tryna heal enemy sym turrets.

[@HenryMarrio]

For your information, yes the Kiriko is cheating. He uses a special kind of aimbot which search for enemy outline colors pixels and then move the mouse to those pixels. But because the cheat doesnt interact in any way with the game, it is not detectable by blizzard. This cheat is public and free and it is not the first one you showcased, Jay.

[@ccb9225]

I think you're onto something. Tbh if I was designing a cheat I'd use a computer vision algo so it's not detectable for the reasons you said, but also less obvious because you're not going to aim-lock people through walls, you'll only aimbot onto people you can actually see. You can also easily simulate legitimate mouse movement so it looks more human but is again undetectable.

[@crby101]

you seem to know a lot about this HHHMMMMMMMMM

[@rsdna9698]

You're talking about a pixel bot and they are detecting a lot of them but when new ones come out someone has to hand the code over to Blizz for them to know what to look for.

[@rsdna9698]

@@crby101 it's not rocket surgery to make one, or understand how they work lol.

[@PeriodicallyProlific]

@@ccb9225 the issue with using full computer vision is it's wayyy too slow to be an actually good aimbot, if you're just looking for a color it's a lot faster and can actually keep up with the game without latency making it effectively useless as an aimbot

[@Etsuko0505]

I love how chat says "Finally" on that last game even though it's effing obvious both are aimbotting and walling, like ppl are really clueless in this game

[@cynicalnightmare1108]

8:52 you can see the projectile aimbot trying to predict pharah's movements in the air and snap to them

[@TheyTookStrawb]

I feel like jay3 and a lot of other people are confused about how anticheat works - it's not about the blatant cheating, it's about the way the cheats actually interact with the game so when the cheat software starts hard locking enemies, it's still using the same method of interacting with the game, IE drivers to simulate a mouse and recording the screen to look at enemy colored pixels, vs reading the game's memory and trying to lock on in the game directly. source- I'm a game dev I probably didn't explain it very well but

[@yiffforlife]

Thank you.... I was too lazy to type that myself lol. People should also know that, Blizzard is just a gaming dev company, not an indumenta anti cheat company like Easy Anticheat and Battleye. They know its a problem, but its not a priority one problem.

[@KlebinDaBoca]

Precisely. Also, aimbots that works with screenshots got very inaccurate since OW1 due to major changes on how the enemy outlines work. I think there was a blog post explaining it back in 2019? It wasn't a clear single color outline anymore, but a changing pattern (that we can't actually see) that made the cheats very confused about how the model looked like and where were their limits on the screen. It added significant delay to the cheats processing time to make them unusable. This change made the hackers switch to mem-hacking all the way, if I'm not mistaken. Also, mem-hacks are far easier to spot on the dev side, since changes on the client side might enable some impossible interactions should appear on logs. If it weren't for the the whole trouble I'd be getting into by doing it, I'd really like to disassembly some of those cheats and actually look how they do some of their stuff. I guess it would improve my c++ experience.

[@steelas481]

3:40 GUY HITS EVERY KUNAI but misses his healing on teamates righhhtttttttt

[@evehellod9776]

There’s no way people are doubting if the Kiriko is cheating or not, it’s pretty obvious hacking

[@dallasjhaws]

lmfao I thought his name was just Jay 💀

[@datinator1200]

Yea where did the name Jay come from

[@BigBoi7734]

@@datinator1200 he used to be called J3sus and shortened it it J3 = Jay3

[@canvascontent4383]

​@@BigBoi7734 Huh. TIL...

[@thederranged8556]

That Tank stopped playing Overwatch and started playing Metroid Prime.

[@princessmulch]

as a gold/plat support main, we don't hit that many shots

[@Ravitas3]

Do they even bother to go against the enemy team? From what I've seen, most of the time they just heal

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

Unless you are a Moira. Then it's damn near impossible to miss your shots haha

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

@@Ravitas3 as a gold player myself I had to quit healing last night to capture the point solo on Midtown while fighting a Bap and then a soldier so not all the time

[@Ravitas3]

@@Antonio-ys5zd As a plat DPS, that's really what I would like to see more often. I really like to be healed by my support, don't get me wrong, but when times are dark, I would love to have actual support in my fights. A simple purple nade, discord orb, or a support that shoots at my targets can help me greatly But this kind of thing seems to be quite rare if I base it on the damage of my supports which are sometimes around 1k at 8 minutes. On the other hand nothing to say about their heals which are easily at 7-8k in those times

[@Antonio-ys5zd]

@@Ravitas3 I go to Moira when things get really dark. Launch a heal orb at my teammates then go on the attack. The enemies turn towards me and then my team can clean those guys up. If I die it isn't too hard to get back to my team fast and the orb travels fairly quick. A rinse and repeat cycle if need be

[@joeyvalesey3389]

Its hilarious comparing his healing aim to his kunai aim

[@Pingoz]

With every failed slam my rage grew

[@s_sanny]

They should add the chat in the replays. Hell even the voices

[@virginiawagner6928]

Privacy Issue, think before you speak

[@kukugame3153]

Chats, yes VCs? No Plus the cost of storing VCs is gonna be in millions considering the number of player and the number of replays we have per player

[@virginiawagner6928]

@@ittapupu7406 ?

[@virginiawagner6928]

@@ittapupu7406 exposing what you're saying in chat or Exposing your voice during Replay ,Breaks Privacy imagine random stranger hearing what you're saying in vc, pretty weird isnt

[@skbj6782]

@@ittapupu7406 stay in school kid

[@gavinloy]

Jay says where not friends… until someone gifts “thank you my friend.”

[@s_sanny]

Kiriko really said they finna win no matter the cost and just amps up the cheats

[@K1llb0t]

8:51 is where it gave it away for me with the Kiriko. As a Kiriko main myself hitting a flying pharah is extremely hard, and doing it consequently for 3 times it's pure luck or you're abnormally skilled. Also if you slow it down at 0.25 the speed you can see how he's tracking the hitbox of the body instead of the head so it's less obvious (and then followed it throught the wall). Also he's not anywhere near to be a good Kiriko. I'm all for the aggressive playstyle and I like to take fight when possible but this guy forgot his team existence. Also missclicking so many times between paper and kunai means you're new to the hero, but the aim he had is the one of someone with lots of hours on her (even if I would argue that so many bodyshots are weird considering that with Kiriko you try to go for the headshot as it's 120). In conclusion even if it's not blatant cheating it's def cheating

[@k6den]

7:47 it's obvious after the rein charges he flicks to where the charge would be and instantly it micro adjusts to his overflick, not to mention right here this tracking is just robotic looking

[@jesuisstupide4899]

For everyone's information... The ball clearly wasnt cheating! Do you see his name? He's just good lmfao

[@p4gaming54]

Bro the balls body when he fell off the map had me dying 😂

[@icyflames135]

17:19 true i was laying down in my chair last night rolling the enemy and than they switched every hero and I had to sit up and focus. I was actually upset that they made me sit up.

[@Spaces1337]

the triggerbot on kiriko cant get more obvious lmao

[@leako9776]

I sacrifice sleep to watch jay3. It is 4am, and even my sleep demon is watching this pogger video with me.

[@TrevByTheTon300]

That wrecking ball was BRAINLESSSS🤣🤣

[@JUJU98347]

17:18 Well I call it the lean forward technique

[@nexaentertainment2764]

That Kiriko was funky for sure. Definitely either a toggle on their aimbot or a really fancy hard to detect one. That or they're a high level smurf, but their game awareness was that of like a silver at best, so I doubt that.

[@alexhopwood8340]

“Hope” might be the funniest word he could have chosen to end that sentence with 2:00

[@bulfucsht]

went from a lil sus to AMONG US real quick LUL

[@hippopotamus2803]

Bro that's tough " I hope I never meet any of you"

[@iikari]

another reason to be an Emongg enjoyer :)

[@monkymann5834]

100% Kiriko was tracking people through walls. Likely using some sort of an aimbot too, but walls are undeniable.

[@puredruid]

You're right, we don't see a lot of support cheaters. Last one I saw was a Baptiste, not even trying to hide the aimbot and hogging his ult all to himself far away from his team lol.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

Sometimes it is better as a Bap to hog your ult, otherwise your team are going to just hide behind the wall and get very little value or space from it. If you are on high ground and you can see their entire team, then put it down and either zone them out or 2 burst someone. Why place it in front of your team just for them to do absolutely nothing with it?

[@justincain2702]

Really didn't need the last round to tell the ball was cheating. The tracking was so unnatural.

[@mrminty7604]

As a ball main how bad that guy was playing him hurt me, no leverage, rollouts, no pile drives and horrid adaptive shields just hurt me

[@Picnickrh]

The amount of cheaters and smurfs in this game is unacceptable

[@thecowman6807]

I actually had this kiriko in one of my games. Was basically identical to this and then at the end of the game they were boasting like mad about how good they are and how much everyone else sucked because they got shit on by a support character. Also lmao at the amount of people in your chat convinced they aren't cheating.

[@cya2043]

8:06 how did the mercy die to sleepdart lol🤣🤣

[@OJ9779]

Tank was like enough of this ball ish time to solo kill an ulting Moira 🤣

[@TierConnoiseurs]

Chris this was a sick video bro ! Saw you in walmart btw

[@SecureBirch410]

I think I saw u in walmart actually

[@BurningLynx]

the most telling about that wrecking ball was all his grapples were downright pointless and no idea how to use his slam but able to track like a bloodhound wired to a mouse.

[@CLed117]

Dude said "Gremlins who bite ankles" hahahahahaha

[@LiquidSoapDrinker]

the roadhog nerfs hit the 1 tricks so hard they had to cheat rather than just get good with a non busted character

[@robikkupegasus7039]

Oh the Kiriko was absolutely cheating, beyond shadow of a doubt - hitting SO many shots but being 0% brainpower. The tank was, as said, absolute dogdoodoo to boot, what a clown fiesta.

[@isaiah5833]

15:30 I mean, there are many ways to handle them, Ramattra destroys ball from my time of playing, Reaper can do good damage, Bastion stomps them, sym turrets fuck them over, Ana sleep with nade can be deadly, Moira can hold her own against them as well, I don’t really see them as that much of a threat, unless they are a very high skilled player

[@kja1217]

i wonder how jay feels about youtube frogs if his twitch chat is a bunch of ankle biting gremlins lmao

[@alecatkinson5163]

dam good reaction vid Chris

[@BoudewijnfromHolland]

I played against a Kiriko exactly like this. Bronze awarness and play style, hits almost every shot. The second time he flanked me i realized he was probably cheating. Why would someone with godlike aim play kiriko, and be in a game with players so far below his level. My team didnt really seem to care, that might be why he plays Kiriko. People wont mind so much if you are not botting on a dmg dealer.

[@phantasy2075]

genuinely believed smurfs until the last round lmao

[@WaitWhoWhat]

The Kiriko's aim was way too good to be legit. It looked robotic and I'm surprised he didn't notice. Though I also play her a lot at high level so I guess I see it more often.

[@karamei]

You thought a smurf kiriko was constantly healing walls, enemies, and enemy turrets? oof

[@R3CO249]

Characters like Moira and Jay3's still mulling over the Junkrat

[@blatetastic]

the hamster at 11:26 is so cute :O

[@HawaiianGodForce]

10:57 ball was playing pinball frfr

[@jxuiiana]

13:04 i’m surprised you didn’t catch that

[@ismellcolor09]

1:54 I now know jay3’s real name is… Chris????? I had no idea

[@jahagkagau6061]

He definitely had a hog hook aimbot for sure

[@NothingnessToTheVoid]

10:00 10:01 after the hook on junkrat the aimbot made a noticeable flick on the junkrat after he used concussion mine

[@thebl4ckd0g]

"we don't see a lot of support cheaters". Ana players: hold my beer.

[@dennisyoung6122]

For the Kiriko, not sure about the aim, but quite likely has walls of some sort. So many prefires just as they are coming around a corner.

[@dillonvivian4956]

I gotta say man I love watching you vids after a long day man keep it up!

[@GummyDinosaursify]

I used to run a Minecraft Server ten years ago. Even back then, my anti-cheat on my cheap Minecraft server would have flagged this as Unnatural Movement/"Player is moving too fast". The fact that in 2023, Blizzard can't even do anything about it is ridiculous. Is it really that hard to go out, buy the cheats, have someone figure out how they work and then build the anti-cheat around that?

[@stoppls790]

I HAVE ALREADY WATCHED THIS 21 TIMES

[@turtle7459]

@@woodpuncher7327 🤡

[@Daniel-ib5nt]

@@vital6317 You dont watch everything on 4 times speed on 21 monitors at once?

[@stoppls790]

@@vital6317 touch grass

[@EtwonYoung]

Why?

[@khorneflakes2175]

Sometimes when i see Roadhog i get nostalgic about the good old times when he was walking around one shoting 80% of the cast with no anti-heal in the game, good old times indeed.

[@noahramdass8543]

“Kereeko”😭😭

[@Medicsus]

The Pharah shooting convinced me that the Kiriko is cheating, just not with headshots. In no universe does a gold Kiriko hit those LMAO

[@theghost8914]

for the wrecking ball i just counter with bastion. soon as he dives you can rip him apart

[@sharpcoyote7988]

As someone who has touched ball a lot, this gameplay hurts to see. I haven't actually played in ages but like... Use your shield when you have as many numbers as possible, slam all the time, don't always charge in ahead, pretty much only Q in the middle of point or at a bottleneck... *IT HURTS* So glad he switched off to someone else lol

[@sharpcoyote7988]

Also in the first round they were pretty obvious too. They tracked that Moira perfectly even when they were teleporting lol

[@thalmorjusticiar1]

imagine cheating and still having negative crit accuracy on a character whose dps relies on crits

[@kindbud]

"only my friends call me Chris" butthurt teacher when u call them by first name

[@Anerostel]

Looks like anytime he would throw his kunai his crosshair would adjust itself to the enemys head softly, you never see him track heads before throwing his kunai.

[@AE1-777]

Ball doesn’t need a nerf if he was the most underperforming tank in season 2, and his gun spread makes consistent damage harder

[@PlaxPenguin1]

“I want to see more support cheaters…” U sure

[@RE2LeonS]

18:16 This shit hole company can't even detect my comp seasons 3-33 and reinstate them, let alone get an anti-cheating software running correctly.

[@ninjapenguin161]

The idea of cheating as Lucio sounds fun, but not fun enough to go through with. Anyone with a brain would notice jump scripts with my aim lmao

[@kingkongsta4051]

I too hate wrecking ball jay. U aren’t alone😂

[@kingkongsta4051]

Also to see someone with that amount of aimbot, still in gold/plat, makes me proud of myself to be in diamond😂🙏

[@GoofyMan123]

You should place an overwatch tournament but the settings are total mayhem, like have top 500 players vs bronze or other top 500 but on total mayhem settings

[@jdogamen]

As someone who does overwatch in csgo which is basically like the community watches demos of reported players and decides if they are cheating or not, what gave it away for the kiriko is not the ESP but the blatant pSilent (projectile silent) aimbot that is locking onto everyone how is it not that obvious. For me it's a simple open and closed case

[@RHBJun]

lol funny coincidence i saw that tank username just some days ago i remember it was hacking as well that time

[@KingCheepcheep6]

damn he really turned it up to 11 at the end there lol

[@darawayne3167]

This cheaters can do this for weeks, and my friend gets banned two days in a row without even cheating...

[@ShawnKavanagh]

It's no wonder he's so bold That aimbot is digital courage

[@Lezram1]

I was wondering why Jay look so awesome today, I was in 144P... good content tho ;)

[@karamei]

LMAO OUCH

[@erinic2160]

Jay got a little god complex on that Chris comment jeez

[@cresp9123]

nice vid chris

[@herrscheroflust]

I don't know who is selling Kiriko's cheats but that's a damn good job.

[@jeronimo7487]

I don't have that much knowledge about gaming but what does it mean when your a smurf

[@rhade3845]

It's not that blizz can't figure out how to catch these cheaters, its that activision doesnt give a crap. Or should I say, activision wont spend money to fix this problem, even though they could.

[@tedreyer1561]

Jay3 really needs to start cutting Plat players some slack, like just because were pretty low, doesn't mean we cant hit the broad side of a barn.

[@-Definitely-NotACat]

I feel like the kiriko also had walls

[@CloudGuru11]

I’ll have you know , I’m neither little nor a gremlin. I’m a super gremlin

[@dannyd6401]

Plat Kiriko here. My crit accuracy is definitely higher than this guy, but my overall accuracy is absolutely not this consistent

[@GentleBreeze-72]

When the ball cranked up the cheats they also discovered the slam.

[@GentleBreeze-72]

@@youtuberobbedmeofmyname is there's a cheat called slam i didnt know. If you saying about ball skill, yeah it's disgusting.

[@Nevaeh_Archangel]

I frickin hate Ball, I could be a mile away and his slam still hits me

[@d3mi2e4]

We goin into a ball meta, just leave it be, so much better than the one shots... Sojourn won't change before ball will she?

[@azgoose3072]

Whoever said “just remember you would be nothing without us” get slapped nerd

[@cawwsy]

jay3 crying about wrecking ball (one of the most technically skilled tanks) getting buffed is hilarious

[@BRAETONIXX]

Kiriko was definitely cheating, just walmart brand cheats lol

[@ccb9225]

Nah, it actually was a well engineered cheat that is designed to not look sus. "walmart" cheats are going to look the most sus because it'll blatantly lock onto a player. A good cheat will look natural while still having an overall high hit accuracy, the goal of cheaters is to not get detected.

[@canineatnight6026]

Jay, whats up with your discord? I cant seem to join your channel? Why was I boot out!?

[@cassiesmith7612]

Hard to believe that ppl pay money for hacks/cheats and still utter rubbish.

[@jonh8641]

Are there hackers on console ow? I know like on old cod it happened a lot I’m curious