This is what 2 CHEATERS VS each other looks like in Overwatch 2!

[@j0a3k]

6:36 Jay: What is this guy DOING? Cassidy: The ole razzle dazzle. The comedic timing on that voice line was incredible.

[@thetwistedsamurai]

I can’t tell you how often something like that happens to me in OW2. The game may have its downsides but HOLY crap, the interactions are SO good.

[@hovthegod3025]

Blizzard: we have a new anti cheating system Cheaters: is that a challenge

[@leemurrison9869]

You joke but it really is a cat and mouse game. People make cheats, devs make anti-cheat, cheaters make less detectable cheats, devs upgrade anti-cheat. It's just at a larger scale cause it's f2p.

[@hovthegod3025]

@@leemurrison9869 we've all seen tome and jerry the mouse got away my g

[@MonkeyBanjo7]

I admit I’ve never seen a cheater. But also I rarely play competitive + I am terrible at telling if someone is using hacks are not

[@canineatnight6026]

Let see how much can we cheat before we get ban

[@CrazedKitsune]

@@MonkeyBanjo7 I ran into a cheater in Team Deathmatch, they cheat everywhere.

[@jgood5833]

Jay3: “It’s like I’m watching a gold player” Me as a gold player: “his aim does look like mine..but you didn’t need to say it out loud” lol

[@varenwilson1514]

Bro if Jay3 saw me playing overwatch I'd get emotionally destroyed

[@collapsednan4131]

Literally, I feel like I would miss two shots and its just like "This guy is trash and his family doesn't love him and I bet he smells as well"

[@cly1543]

Not jay its flats bro

[@Noughtgate]

Be proud. No matter how dogshit you are, you're still better than a cheater

[@sunflower9310]

@@cly1543oh yeah watching emmong, then thinking Jay was worse and then watching flats spec… it could indeed get worse haha

[@Galliao]

I've become an instant reloader just hoping J might feel it in the force.

[@trulers8713]

What's wrong with reloading as cassidy? He has a super fast reload and only 6 shots so you might as well get ready for the next fight if you don't have any los.

[@plagas.muncher]

i dont get his viewpoint. whats wrong with reloading so much? it doesnt take that long and it gives you better chances of survival when you do it at a safe time

[@thelostwanderergames4287]

@@plagas.muncher “when you do it in a safe time” he was doing it while getting shot at by a hog

[@plagas.muncher]

@@thelostwanderergames4287 okay that makes sense but he says this all the time about reloading even if it is actually safe

[@Sac-chan]

@@plagas.muncher bc he reloads as soon as he shoots one bullet and doesn't see the enemy for more than 2s, when you should take your time to check before, at least 4-5s and then reload

[@mikieman6021]

Every single time jay watches a cheater. “Chat are you sure this guys cheating?” Yes bro just wait till they get tilted lol

[@TheDragorin]

something people need to realize is that for every obvious cheater like these two, there are a dozen cheaters who hide the cheating better.

[@rayhouston5815]

Second guy not cheating tho

[@padarousou]

@@rayhouston5815 You just proved his point

[@angelcake7077]

Actually spectating cheaters is my favorite content to watch… it’s terrible that it exists but I just find these situations so boggling yet entertaining

[@josephholdom8934]

Oh yeah, hacker fight!

[@messhyash9767]

This is fun to watch for some reason

[@henrylemke]

More like slaker fight

[@MonkeyBanjo7]

I admit I’ve never seen a cheater. But also I rarely play competitive + I am terrible at telling if someone is using hacks are not

[@killpioo2]

The hogbag LMAO 5:05 Jay misses it

[@lanad3lreyyy]

Lol

[@j0a3k]

"Tactical crouching."

[@hexgleam]

The thing that was funny about the cassidy we spectated first was his refusal to use flash on anyone besides the hog lol. Flash the Tracer in front of him who already used recall? Nope, either whiff or lock onto the head, there is no other option

[@wolfadlerman9075]

I don't understand why the second dude is suspected of cheating he just had a few good headshots without any suspicious flicks or wallings

[@jnemuranai277]

because he looked so insanely lost compared to other people at that sr. like it wouldn’t make sense for him to be there without getting boosted or cheating. it seemed to me like he was walling but i’m not tryna argue about that

[@appeli1147]

Walls

[@luckybynn5788]

I thought second guy looked suspicious mostly because of how lost he looked and the fact that he was constantly nailing headshots while he and the enemy was moving/jumping/flying whatever but missed multiple shots on slept people while standing still.

[@ole1424]

Man i dont realy know why both of them get Reported both of them donsent Seen really sus

[@julidee_]

Fr

[@Salmonellla]

Watching this three months later knowing PVE got cancelled is a little ironic. 12:48

[@crimsonangel4573]

10:26 I don't know lf this was answered later on in the video. But most cheaters on GM or Masters buy compromised accounts that are already in that Rank.

[@stupidmonkey151]

What a sad experience. They literally remove all of the fun aspects of playing a competitive game.

[@rb9951]

2nd guy looked completely normal

[@XxLeAdFaRmErxX1]

That's what I'm saying looked like normal widow gaming.

[@axelmogr]

This. Idk what chat was on about with 2nd guy

[@ACEPLAYA5]

Yeah the second guy felt completely normal, honestly it just felt like Jay and chat was bullying someone for having a bad game rather than being cheater

[@shawndean5952]

Yea I think it was the fact he was so lost and there might have been slight walling

[@Terwano]

17:00 worst is when you're absolutely cracked in 1 game -> over 60% accuracy and over 40% crit accuracy. But then the literal next game you can't hit shit. like sub 30% accuracy out of no where.

[@alicetheneko7529]

What’s more infuriating is the Cass and Ashe didn’t take high ground in the first round

[@ImSoapy]

I love when hackers randomly shoot to lower their accuracy like bruh that ain’t changing anything 😂

[@subparpt]

When his tbag looked uncoordinated you can tell he doesn't belong that high

[@itzak2375]

I think a good solution to the cheating problem is to have an accuracy over time stat that the anti-cheat monitors. And then when there’s a huge spike in accuracy after the first 2 mins, it flags them for review automatically. To avoid cheaters that lower accuracy, like for cass, there can be a FtH accuracy stat as well

[@mynameisgus7515]

I think they are aware of this

[@giordzy]

But it’s a more complicated approach, they would be getting thousands of flagged games, anybody can have really good games where their aim is a lot better than usual.

[@Inventor_of_Water]

It would also have to be character dependent. For example, I've been playing for 5 or 6 years, and while I can snipe widows with Torb's primary fire my accuracy with hitscans is 50% at best. There's a big difference between aiming and accuracy with hitscans versus projectiles. I understand what you're going for, but no person performs at a consistent enough level for accuracy tracking alone to be enough.

[@stupidmonkey151]

I would probably get flagged a few times for this and I'm dogwater. I'll start out matches with horrid aim then hit 5 crit kills in a row. Just happens sometimes. I know I'm far from the only one to experience this, so yeah I think they could have an overload.

[@lacai527]

you know the later the match goes the more "data" you gather how which enemy moves which increases accuracy, i bet you are doing the same.

[@Very_Silly_Person]

Rizzmattra appears I'M NOT NECROS AND I DIDN'T EXPECTED TO BE IN KZbin VIDEO

10:25 look that follow to the tracer blonks behind walls 😂😂😂

[@GhostSandman91]

The cheaters are a problem across all games. I play multiple games where cheating is a problem (Cod, Escape from Tarkov, OW2, etc.) Cheating has become a huge problem in the online gaming community in the past couple years. It's never been this bad

[@spidey_boii9285]

Funny how this guy plays, he's so shaky with that kinda accuracy🤣

[@zoruasgang740]

Around 14:00 when Jay asks how much chat thinks the cheaters spent on hacks I immediately said "tree fiddy" and kinda lost my mind when Jay said the same thing like 10 seconds later

[@FrietPiet]

The first player clearly cheats but I don't think the second guy does. If he does it's only wallhack.

[@casrieldreemur9423]

15:40 reminds me of when someone on KZbin tried to convinced people that Genji couldn’t deflect kill reaper with his own ult.

[@novadestry]

As entertaining as these are, I'm upset about how common these videos are, and these are just the ones he found interesting, makes me think at least a 4th of all my games have someone cheating

[@gurgleblaster2282]

Depends on your rank probably I reckon they filter up pretty fast.

[@drphdmd7064]

I find it hilarious how little hacking helps people in overwatch.

[@BrendanishLeo]

Tbf I'm not sure if they were serious, but they did say this was t500. Got him to the top 1%. But yeah, there's a lot more to winning than just getting frags.

[@stupidmonkey151]

@@BrendanishLeo Yeah, cheating will carry you to top 10% easily, so it does help quite a bit. But I do second how funny it is they get demolished at top 500.

[@anatolydyatlov963]

17:30 people do the same thing in chess - they play normally most of the time, then suddenly start cheating when they're about to loose

[@joomface]

how do people cheat in chess? sounds interesting

[@anatolydyatlov963]

​@@joomface When it comes to online chess, you can simply open another browser tab with a chess engine that provides the best move for the current position. Nowadays, no human player can compete with a chess engine as they are much, much smarter. While cheating in over-the-board chess is more challenging, it is still possible. There are devices available that can be inserted into shoes, transmitting moves through electrical pulses in Morse code. Players can input their opponent's moves by pressing their toes in specific patterns, also in Morse code. This is just the tip of the iceberg, though. There was a recent controversy surrounding a famous chess grandmaster, Hans Niemann, who was accused of cheating in a tournament by having a plug inserted into his... well, you know where. It was said to transmit vibrations. The point of having it "inside" was to avoid being detected by standard metal detectors, which are commonly used while screening chess players during tournaments. There are numerous KZbin videos about this incident if you're interested in watching and having a good laugh.

[@joomface]

@@anatolydyatlov963 Oh wow. that’s amazing. thank you for taking the time to explain, can’t wait to learn more about it :)

[@cachinco2681]

Blizzard should make it so all of the cheaters get grouped with only cheaters. They can have fun in their own games until they are banned.

[@Arkafett]

13:45 Ana said no u and I fucking crieddddd

[@RM---]

16:45 the roadbagging had me lolin

[@wolfieclaw9779]

Do a team elimination gmemode and every hero is buffed to the max and see which team gets eliminated first or how long it takes

[@Fixxyo]

5 seconds in, misses 2 Shots. Jay: Are you sure this guy is cheating?

[@Godzilla12546]

That tracer has every right to be pissed

[@Huvy_Huevy]

2:53 as a silver player even I am offended

[@goober_uno]

bro that man was getting clowned on by that tracer lmao.

[@Kettvnen]

first guy probably had trigger bot as well

[@alorawhitnah1191]

At the beginning at like 2:30/2:40 ish when you slowed it down, it clearly shows him aiming at the guy on point through the wall. He then hits tracer and is still aiming at the person on point lol

[@drachenboss4844]

That missed sleeping shot, even I could have hit that an im sliver. He had like a year for the line up

[@penart8079]

I don't think the second one was cheating, at least from aimbot perspective. Maybe only one of his shots looked peculiar, the rest looked fine.

[@capt420]

Walls atleast

[@joomface]

@@capt420 No, because you can ping people and basically have walls for a short amount of time. The overwatch replayer doesn’t let us properly check. The first person definitely had cheats on and walls, not so sure about the second one

[@capt420]

@@joomface i dont think his teammates were pinging every enemy

[@capt420]

@@joomface before they even were out of spawn

[@daniel89123]

​@@capt420 when. There is no situation where he doesn't have info.

[@deathbyspeed2]

Hackers are far more abundant in free to play games. They'll never be able to stop them so because of that reason they dont even try.

[@naaamgs]

I’m glad us KZbin folk are considered as civilized compared to the rest, I’ve always thought so myself.

[@irlmerc]

i just wanna say- watching videos like this make me feel good about my skill on the characters that i thought was trash

[@phillipferguson4333]

They have started pairing up in a min of 2. 5v5 mystery is full

[@RackyuX]

13:26 this aged like fine wine 😂

[@4xTheDon]

Bro the whole you can’t break a zarya bubble thing pisses me off so much. I’m like who is giving you this information?!

[@itzpurple_queen9711]

The Cassidy is using dollar store hacks lol 😂😂😂

[@NIKONIKO2014]

If u are a hacker it actually makes sense to reload after every shot since every bolt you have is a granted hit

[@joshuawiener5003]

13:11 has this man never seen a Team Fortress 2 KZbin channel?

[@tyrenace6597]

So goldrake turned on their hacks in response to the enemy team having a hacker lmao. Still doesn't justify it but it's funny he had to go "let's see who the better cheater is".

[@hanyuluvr]

LMAOO

[@Endorsememe]

I remember in Warcraft 3, everybody was cheating(maphack). In Starcraft 2, somehow, there was very little cheating, especially early on. So if they give a fuck they can prevent this.

[@grapes7767]

Bro that second guy was not wearing headphones 💀

[@mrelygaming]

Jay sounded so mad when the cheater tbagged

[@Gudda16]

first guy's got my shaky gold aim and positioning with the reaction time of a turtle, he looks so lost and scared xD

[@byekit]

No way I had this golddrake guy in my dia game once and he was full on rage cheating with widow 😭😭

[@CreamIc7]

I remember in ow1 someone I knew got upset and a bit toxic and got banned for a month but cheaters don't get banned ever

[@lostkay9511]

I am consuming an unhealthy amount of J3 videos

[@nobodysomebody7332]

They should just put cheaters together in a match lol

[@stormcreator56]

It's like every cheater is just the same person. They're all the same

[@yasmeenpulido28]

I’m honestly more surprised of the fact that Necros is playing another character besides Genji.

[@harrison7716]

Blizzard anticheat software is just some guy watching jay3 videos

[@notGeist]

"I can understand cheating" -Jay3

[@RizzMercy]

RIZZMATTRA IS LITERALLY MY BFF AS THE RIZZARDS OF OVERWATCH 😭 I'M RIZZ MERCY

[@pronxon]

Second guy didn't look like he was cheating at all. Not even walls. Team mates pinging and just looking at the spots where the enemy widow was last seen (got killed there by the hacking widow)

[@MrBaconFTWreal]

To determine if someone is cheating, you don't only look at what they are doing; you should look at what they aren't doing. The second cheater had horrible positioning, crosshair placement, mechanics, and awareness. You don't see that to that extent in a T500 lobby.

[@turtle_wax91]

@@MrBaconFTWreal I don't see anything wrong with the 2nd guy's crosshair positioning. He always places it near positions where they would likely show up and then do some minor adjustments after that. Which is valid in my experience of fighting against T500 Widow players and watching their kill cam/ spectate their gameplay. The only thing that might be valid and I agree with is that he had bad positionings, and that's all about it.

[@CertifyGames]

Forreal lol they’re on his meat cause he was accused of cheating so anything “good” he did was instant cheating ig

[@XxLeAdFaRmErxX1]

@@MrBaconFTWreal also these 3 maps aren't widows best maps and there aren't too many angles to play. But that's just me

[@zer0g140]

sometimes as cass you accidentally secondary fire, i do it all the time because of a twitch in my hands

[@JustShiiro]

Too many people pay more money for cheats than they would have to pay for a coach

[@cheddarbrice7028]

Jay to every hacker: I bet he's some younger brother buying hacks on his older brother's pc-

[@alexholmes8714]

15:20 I had a guy complain to me about hog one shot when overwatch two first came out. He tried telling me that hog never used to one shot before in overwatch 1, and no matter what I said he was adamant that he was right… some people are just dumb as hell.

[@diox8tony]

4:09,,,wait I am watching that video...what do you mean?

[@Mimi-yz6je]

"Bro is hyped about his own vids" Why are you even here lmao

[@genghiskhan6809]

Overwatch should implement exile servers at this point so we can just watch cheaters fight each other.

[@cloudyman04]

I like that idea Genghis Khan but then you would have to be a cheater to watch the replays and that means less videos for us to see

[@genghiskhan6809]

@@cloudyman04 Perhaps we could have the cheaters send the replays. On an exile server/tier, everyone knows that everyone is cheating.

[@yo-gamerboy7916]

Looking at all these I feel like I did run into a cheater.

[@s_sanny]

I see why the first person needed cheats he even looked lost

[@squirglez8243]

16:25 the scene from highschool of the dead

[@LAVERDADTEDUELE]

lets be honest, I don't think its responsible to have sloppy judgement... I don't think the second one was cheating at all...Like if u agree. Just wanna see how synced our collective judgement is about this one.

[@DraterTTV]

If cheaters were good, they wouldn't need to cheat.

[@phlojem285]

I've noticed a lot of the stuff I say someone else points out in the video like, half a second after I pause to comment about it, so I'm collecting them in the same space 5:31 The Hog bagged him earlier, when he got slept at 5:36 . Only fair Hog gets it back 8:15 A widow grappled across his screen. He may of paid attention to that and thought she was up there still with his Mercy and Sojourn 16:57 Why is Hog moving? You paused the playback but his limbs keep drifting for like 18 seconds!

[@some1and297]

20:03 "unless his team is pinging it which I don't see" 19:43 there actually was two pings going the direction of the LOS he was holding. Seems like a reasonable angle to hold, also he was holding the edge of the corner and not the widow at any point so idk, I don't really think widow 2 was cheating

[@HisJett33]

OMG THE CLARA CLIP😭😭

[@wipeoutninja]

nevermind underpaying them, they never get to go home, thats why they sleep on the job

[@rnegoro1]

There is an ungodly amount of hackers in OW2.

[@correctedwolf42bruh61]

Hehe tf2 moment 12:56

[@ismphob]

The beginning of the vid looked like me on reaper yesterday

[@Himbayo]

Jay, I'm so sorry that I didn't watch this earlier. KZbin been lackin on suggestions. Yep

[@7mahmud7]

Wow. I am in the youtube video because I wrote an intentional dumb comment @18:49

[@musicxxa6678]

I reported 20+ cheaters in this season. None of them get banned. So these players end up in games of high ranked players untouched lmao. This game has a massive cheater issue alongside of tons of other competitive ranked mode issues.

[@ghastlyviperinactive]

jay3: dont worry guys pve will save the game! right...? blizzard: well... about that..

[@munoobinater403]

Blue team cheater was a low rank. Probably gold or plat. Red team guy is probably legitimately diamond or higher

[@wusaint]

Blizzard's anticheat is straight up crap. I find someone cheating almost every day. I got tired of reporting because it just takes up too much of my time to go back/look at the replay to make sure I'm right. Then report. Almost everyone I have reported I've gotten a report back saying that they took action so I'm pretty accurate at determining who is and is not cheating. But it just takes too much of my time. Now I only report if it's in comp and it caused a loss.

[@AlexMoonwalk]

The first guy is a lot more obvious though.

[@Idkidkidk716]

That hacker b lost in the sauce lol. I was wondering where all the cheaters went from destiny 2.

[@Ice215Man]

Hackers wars. Gotta love them

[@kingplutoxiao1]

Id like to see an aimbotting ana

[@Elmast__]

13:24 this aged like shit, lol

[@DecayedPony]

More like fine wine. the nervous laughter icing on the cake.

[@g.l.rgaming6369]

Hard pressed to find a content creator that isnt pumped about their content. That's all we have!!!

[@nobody1butme820]

He made it this far bc every game people pretend nobody is cheating bc if you realize every cheater in ladder you'd quit the game probably

[@misterrosen3237]

Reloading with mcree every 2sec is something only mcree players can understand

[@ur.my.friend8522]

man, there is reason i play junkrat. I counter cheaters with bombs to their face 😂 😂