JayB's Sound Set for Waldorf Kyra [Trance, Progressive, House, Deep]

[@skippyfast5115]

does not matter what you touch you make it sound EPIC

[@djlocodoc]

I love JayB's presets! These will be going in my Kyra in 3 days! Thank you JayB for all of your hard work!

[@MarshalArnold]

KYRA + JayB patches = Awesome! Love the Kyra, sounds beautiful 🎹🎶

[@lodrezzon]

I've pretty much gone full VST in the last 20 years, versus a hardware based rig. My live setup now consists of 2 laptops running Ableton, along with a Kyra, JD-08, and Hydrasynth. The Kyra is irreplaceable.

[@jsogman]

Sounds like you have a solid amount of experience with synths. Can I ask what about it to you is particularly great?

[@lodrezzon]

@@jsogman For me, sound quality is the most important thing when writing and performing music. I've owned so many synths over the years that have been decent, but not exceptional, that I've begun to focus on hardware / software that captivates me when I demo it. To tell you how picky I am, of the 30,000+ VST patches that I currently own, I probably use less than 20 on a regular basis. I have no need or interest in car engines revving, basses mixed with chain saws, trumpets that sound like a 5 year old's toy bugle, etc... I need strings, pads, Rhodes, and basses that work with each other and don't draw attention from the singer, while still making the music sound as professional as possible. Waldorf has always made amazing sounding instruments to my ear. I love my Blofeld; specifically for the quality of the sounds you get versus the purchase price. While researching the Blofeld, I came across information on the Kyra and it's capabilities. Now, I'm not a $2k + synth guy. I prefer to stay in the $900 to $1700 range if possible, since I'm not made of money. That basically excludes a lot of the higher end products that I'm sure have wonderful sounds, but they are simply too expensive for me to tryout and possibly discover I don't like. The depreciation on music equipment is frightening, and many higher end items sit for months hoping to be sold on Reverb or Ebay. If you buy high end hardware and are forced to resell it because you aren't impressed with it, it can take a terribly long time to do so, or you have to discount it so extreme that you lose precious cash. So on the Kyra, I did my homework. I knew it was a $2500 instrument so it had to be amazing to even consider it. After watching at least 20 sound demo videos at least 10-20 times each, and researching the capabilities of the machine, I knew that if I could find it used I'd be a happy camper. I eventually found a used ( like new) Kyra for $1700 and pulled the trigger. I've had it now for 2 years, and literally use it for 3+ hours a day, every single day. My performance rack (an Ultimate Support Ax 48) consists of 3 tiers; my hardware tier (an Arturia Keylab 61 driving the Kyra, JD-08, and the Blofeld layered), a software tier ( driven by a Novation SL MK3 61 key, pushing Ableton live driving 12 tones stacked), and my Hydrasynth Deluxe on the bottom. My hardware tier provides string / pad sounds, my software tier provides a 'thick Rhodes' sounds (basically a Rhodes with some pad / ambient elements), and my Hydrasynth provides an Electric piano or an arp. I also use a Mininova for solos and vocoding. My live mindset is I NEVER want to switch sounds onstage; I simply have each tier provide a type of sound I want, and with the 3 tiers plus the mininova, I can achieve any live result I like. I also run 2 separate laptops, both running Ableton 11, for my sequences (mainly so I can always have a song ready to go - while one is playing a sequence, the other is loading the next song). I use my synth tiers in conjunction with my Ableton sequences ( each sequence generally comprised of 14-16 sounds). My sound onstage can be massive or miniscule, and I generally play the software tier the most often since my bass sound is generated by Ableton. But at least once per song I switch to the hardware tier for strings / pads ( usually during solos or breakdowns), and that's pretty much 80% Kyra and 20% JD-08 and Blofeld. Like I mentioned, I'm a sound freak, and if what I'm playing live isn't thick enough for my ear, I'll add another synth or module as a layer to thicken the sound. With the Kyra, I'm always running around 6 sounds stacked within the Kyra itself, and with the massive amount of envelope generators is has, I've never had an issue with polyphony (remember I use it for strings and pads with long decays, so when I'm playing 9th or 11th chords, I generally have 6 keys down, that leads to another 6 keys being pressed down while the first chord is decaying, and if the chords are quick, I can even have a 3rd chord playing while the first 2 chords are still decaying). I refuse to deal with clipping, so I need hardware that handles my requirements. The Kyra does that and so much more. I could go on but... oh, I already did. 8(

[@d-rantz443]

@@lodrezzon the blofeld is 16 part multitimbral. How many voices does it have overall? Could I have say 6 separate midi channels setup into my mode machines seq12 sequencer with the blofeld? Would the voice count limit me playing live. I’ve a dawless setup by the way. Check my channel

[@lodrezzon]

@@d-rantz443 20-ish ( I guess it has some variation due to oscillator allocation). You might be ok with 2 parts, no polyphony drop outs, doing pad or string chords, or 4 parts doing arps and monophonic lines. It's difficult to say not knowing your compositional style. In my system, I use it for one part ( I actually only use the Blofeld for one sound, 100% of the time), stacked with my Kyra and JD-08. My Kyra is the beast of a zillion notes polyphony, so that's what I use to stack parts ( it's natively multi-part and I just set every part to the same midi channel to get massive part stacking). For me, I like sonic quality and nuance, so my live rig is designed to give me the best sound I can get live, regardless of economy. (within reason of course), so having 3 sound modules playing 8 - 10 parts stacked gives me what I'm looking for. I use Ableton for multipart sequencing. A good laptop can achieve what you're looking for 100 times easier than pushing a Blofeld super hard.

[@lodrezzon]

Ditto. I use 2 Controllers (w/ laptops) for Ableton VSTs, another laptop for Ableton sequences, a Kyra, and a Hydrasynth Deluxe. I cannot even fathom ever needing anything else ever again. But then again, there was a time when the Hydrasynth didn't exist, and now it's irreplaceable.

[@TimDaleMusic]

I loved the Kyra when I got to play it, even when I played it in it's original, home-made form, the Valkyrie. But demos online have been mostly terrible. Thanks for what you've done here - I think it sounded great.

[@powomod]

Du bist ein Held der guten alten Musik!

[@ledgermanager]

you do amazing stuff with these things

[@wildnwoolley3113]

Recently picked up a Kyra. I’d love to get these if they exist. Honestly some more content of how you program your patches would be greatly appreciated.

[@JayBmusic]

The sound set is available on my homepage or the Waldorf website for free.

[@Smordor_Stormcrow]

1:43 I love how much this sounds like interstellar

[@d-rantz443]

I have a dawless setup and looking to add a top synth to the rig. With the 8 part multitimbral then this could be the one. 4-8 synths in one. Class. Plus I always told myself to get a modern synth with a Jayb soundset. You’ve done well 😎

[@michaelvanranderaat2728]

Dear JayB i love your tracks as your patches but cant use mostly none because those synths are rare to find i do have a Yamaha MOTIF6 but do not know if your patches can be imported in the 6 as its not on your list. Can i import the Kyra sounds into a Waldorf Iridium Keys as i do have one

[@muco007]

@JayB will this or the Blofeld version load into a Quantum?

[@AmeyahOfficialTV]

good stuff, sounds very modern!

[@michaelvanranderaat2728]

hope to recreate your epic sound on my Iridium keys as a of sound are Ambient based on the Iridium

[@szymonmat4779]

Woow, brillant sounds!

[@richardordenanz8294]

Increíble!!!!!!!!!

[@mksavela]

Nice, but could you also just demonstrate your soundsets without post prosessing and background stuff?

[@JayBmusic]

There's hardly any post-processing. Leaving it out wouldn't make much of a difference, aside from a missing kick and the pumping that goes with it. Unfortunately I can't send you the raw recordings anymore since I lost the project files.

[@Blue.Island]

Nice Synth, may be the base sound a Little flat? I Miss also the supersaw sound

[@JayBmusic]

Supersaw functions were very limited as it used all oscillators so you couldn't layer with with any other oscillator, not even noise.

[@MarianoPerez]

How difficult is this synth to program?

[@JayBmusic]

Actually pretty straight forward. Only some parameters and the mod matrix require some menu diving.

[@Jason75913]

dang, did Waldorf nag you to take down the video about you complaining about the Kyra?

[@JayBmusic]

Nope, that was my own decision after reading...not so nice comments about it on all sorts of places.

[@Jason75913]

@@JayBmusic don't let triggered Kyra users stop you from sharing your views, I say, but if the posts were that many, I can understand you wanting to avoid riling up too many people. Kyra even got an Audiopilz Bad Gear episode, fittingly enough. 🤣

[@michaelvanranderaat2728]

no need i see on your site you do not have the Kyra download files anymore...:(

[@JayBmusic]

Hey! Thanks for notifying me. I apparently forgot to upload the file in the first place. Download is working now. But I don't think you can import them to the Iridium. I'm not sure though.

[@79halfnhalf]

@jayB I just bought a Virus TI2. Do you think that the Kyra is different enough to justify buying it or do you think the Virus covers all the same bases? Thanks.

[@JayBmusic]

I think the Virus already covers everything here. I haven't spent a lot of time with the Viri but from what I learned they're pretty much the Kyra and maybe even a bit more. ;)

[@79halfnhalf]

@@JayBmusic Thank you so much for saving me a ton of money!

[@frexed4093]

Kyra vs Access virus ti 2?

[@JayBmusic]

Virus should be the better choice IMO.

[@cnovasalmanhussain751]

THIS MADE ME DIVERT MY Attention FROM THE ACCESS VIRUS TI2 DESKTOP SYNTH... THIS IS TRULY ANALOGISH AND SEXY...

[@asmr6773]

What you mean exactly with minimal prossesing ??

[@JayBmusic]

Means a Little EQing maybe, or sidechain compression. And a mastering limiter. Not using the big guns.

[@asmr6773]

@@JayBmusic thanks for the info, i am a beginner , and i am hungry for knowing more of mastering the final song.

[@asmr6773]

@@JayBmusic can you please name a Headphone good for mastering, and cheap like less than a 100$???

[@difflocktwo]

@@asmr6773 Samsung earphones that come with the phone.

[@asmr6773]

@@difflocktwo are you serious? 🙃... i know AKG has something to do with some samsung earbuds.

[@oziaso9655]

Hey JayB you make loads of presets for different synths which hardware synths.make the best trance supersaw besides the obvious jp8000 and virus ?

[@Jason75913]

JP8k defines how Roland does supersaws in all of their products, so you can add FA-06, Juno-DS, Fantom and Fantom-0, System-8, MC-707, JD-Xi, and so on to that list. MOXF and such sound clean and nice at that, I say. Ultranova and the Peak/Summit rock at that, too.

[@oziaso9655]

@@Jason75913 i wanted most of the synths on your list but they have such low polyphony ( i need min 16) from some of the vids ive seen the peak/summit supersaws sound bad.....jdxi sounds good though....ive yet to hear the jdxa supersaws though....the korg minilogue sounds close to a jp8080 and strangely enough the vst harmless from fl studio sounds really close to a jp8000 ...who wouldve guessed that one ? Thanks for your reply 🙂

[@Jason75913]

@@oziaso9655 The Novation supersaws only sound bad on max saw density settings, using a bit less and it does sound quite good. They are all designed to go overboard (especially the Ultranova) for those who might want really ugly, nasty timbres. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4CqioNnraitbq8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIWmqY1rftljaMU

[@d-rantz443]

@@oziaso9655 I think a supersaw to one person can be different to another person. I’ve a Nord lead A1 (26voices, 4 part multitimbral). Listen to Mancunian highway on my channel. You’ll hear a trancey saw sound kick in halfway. I like it but then again it’s no Roland supersaw 🤘

[@erikdijkhuizen]

You should do a soundset for the Blofeld. Guess you could get similar sounds out of it 👍🏻

[@JayBmusic]

I'm working on a sound set for the Blofeld. And it sounds better than this.

[@erikdijkhuizen]

@@JayBmusic I knew it! 👍🏻😃

[@mark35mi]

@@JayBmusic How's the blofeld set coming?

[@JayBmusic]

@@mark35mi On halt at the moment. Not much time for music these days. :/

[@OperculumAudio]

@@JayBmusic Does the Blofeld sound better than the Kyra? I've been looking for a modern Trance Hardsynth that would stand up against something like a Virus. Any recommendations? Thanks!

[@Hoshi9Zoe]

1:45

[@trippypages7309]

👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿

[@maximgremilov5549]

😀👋👋👋👋👋💯

[@elasticyoga6843]

Yes, cool programmed sounds, good sound design.. But somehow that doesn't sound any different than any plugins. The synth lacks character, it's not a JP 8000 or An1x that you hear right away. I'm just missing the WOW effect, the synth doesn't sound bad somehow....but random. This doesn't mean the quality of the sound programming, please don't get confused - it's top notch.

[@JayBmusic]

I know exaxtly what you mean! I was offered to buy it with a discount, but I declined. It's not worth a few thousand dollars.

[@XenoxParticularSound]

I like your music and your sound design, @JayB but to be honest, the trance sounds are not that very hard to program so you can make them with any good sounding VST today... The Kyra is in my eyes a re-creation from a dude who likes the Virus a lot, he did it not that bad, everything is nice so far but.. Hm... As someone already said, i miss the WOW effect with this synth, if you are searching for a new Virus, this is maybe your synth...

[@JayBmusic]

Totally agree with you. The Kyra - especially for the price - lacks quite a few interesting features that I could find in other synths much older and also much cheaper. It sounds great, sure, but that's about it. Too many limitations and compromises have been made.

[@Jason75913]

I've yet to get a chance to even touch one of these to see what Waldorf cooked up. It's missing useful features?

[@Jason75913]

@@JayBmusic why did you even make this soundset? 🤣🤣

[@JayBmusic]

@@Jason75913 Because Waldorf asked me to.

[@Jason75913]

@@JayBmusic oh wow

[@TranceElevation]

Never understood who's this synth aimed for. Without TI I don't see any reason to get this over a Virus.

[@Jason75913]

"TI"?

[@TranceElevation]

@@Jason75913 total integration

[@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST]

I don't hate how this synth sounds but I strongly dislike it. It sounds so plastic and thin to my ears. Total opposite of the ASM Hydrasynth, which even sounds analog at times and has an organic warmth to its overall sound.

[@asmr6773]

👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿