Jayce was RIGHT! - Arcane Season 2 Act 2

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@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
I think the gemstone on Jayce’s wrist stopped viktor from seeing into Jayce’s mind
@YesOrNoGo
@YesOrNoGo Ай бұрын
Jayce’s Appearance tells it all
@04harman
@04harman Ай бұрын
you spoiled the show with the title
@thatbish5504
@thatbish5504 Ай бұрын
​@@04harman ep is out 💀💀
@theotherguyyyy
@theotherguyyyy Ай бұрын
@@thatbish5504 It would be a spoil even if the episode came out 10 years ago.
@thatbish5504
@thatbish5504 Ай бұрын
@@theotherguyyyy I mean in this case spoilers are everywhere lol 😂 u should avoid yt for now if u dont want spoilers
@georgebsth
@georgebsth Ай бұрын
"with 42 consecutive victories including a small child" this had me rolling xD
@blugger
@blugger Ай бұрын
@@georgebsth tbf, that small child was intentionally feeding Giant fight between mech suit junkies and giant hex tech weapons, and he didn't even take cover or anything!
@austincde
@austincde Ай бұрын
I almost felt bad for the green goop mom but it's like why do you have your kid working in the mines 😂
@smokeyislove469
@smokeyislove469 Ай бұрын
@@austincde hard work builds character! kids these days want everything for free, rabble rabble rabble
@phantomsanic3604
@phantomsanic3604 Ай бұрын
@@austincde the children yearn for the mines
@youcan_dew_it
@youcan_dew_it Ай бұрын
​@@austincde "The children yearn for the mines."
@popmannn
@popmannn Ай бұрын
I think it's worth noting that when Jayce, Ekko, and Himerdinger first enter the hexgate failsafe, the room is very cold and you see there breath constantly. Then when Jayce comes back, the entire time you can see his breath still, showing the room is still very cold. You know who's breath you can't see? Salo. At no point is Salo's breath visible. In my eyes this means one of two things, either whatever Salo has become isn't producing body heat, or it isn't breathing...
@Zeaun_Arts
@Zeaun_Arts Ай бұрын
that make sense
@davibitencourt9816
@davibitencourt9816 Ай бұрын
this line of thought is often replicated, but don't forget that Viktor himself doesn't feel cold anymore (from the scene where he comes out from the first cocoon and meets Jayce in the lab), so it really is possible that their bodies become colder when touched by hextech/arcane, therefore not producing steam from their breath. Although they still seem to need to eat, since they are planting stuff in the community, their bodies are supposed to be "evolved" or freed from some restraints the human body is supposed to have. So it's not so much that they aren't alive/breathing
@BBoysAndTrickers
@BBoysAndTrickers Ай бұрын
This and the fact that viktor can talk thru him
@neltins5308
@neltins5308 Ай бұрын
Mhm, everyone in the fandom thinks Jayce is some big bad villain the most evil person in the show... but the dark truth is he actually could be the true savior not Viktor.
@hagalathekido
@hagalathekido Ай бұрын
Why breathe when you can join the glorious evolution.
@MylesJacobSwie
@MylesJacobSwie Ай бұрын
Something no one ever seems to bring up is that when Viktor first ever touched the Hexcore, Heimerdinger told him, "Viktor, something's different. You've changed." Which is very similar to Viktor's line to Jayce where he says, "You seem different. Something happened." Then brings up that Jayce has touched the arcane as well. So something about interacting with the Arcane directly is important here.
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
This is an awesome connection that I didn’t make
@randoclips1762
@randoclips1762 Ай бұрын
Because its the World Rune messing with their minds. "Rune of Madness" just google "Shard of Madness" its a World Rune looks exactly like the Aura coming off the Hexcore too. In ryze Cinematic u also see the Red World Rune give of same kind of aura just red
@kofu1267
@kofu1267 Ай бұрын
Yo good shout
@david_ace
@david_ace Ай бұрын
probably because he seemed more alive also
@Smokey348
@Smokey348 19 күн бұрын
Honestly i still think it has to do smth with the VOID
@darkunor6687
@darkunor6687 Ай бұрын
I want to point out that while fused to his wrist, the Rune that Jayce has in his wrists seems to be uncorrupted.
@SuchIsLife24
@SuchIsLife24 Ай бұрын
If you look closely when Sky evaporates, her dust goes towards the Hexcore so she might be in there that’s why Viktor keeps seeing her.
@daz97
@daz97 Ай бұрын
@@SuchIsLife24 That's a fact at this point bro What I believe is the most important foreshadowing about that story arch is this line "The inspiration for our greatest good is also the cause of our greatest evil" And.. Peace, love, hate and anger are 2 sides of the same coin If you understand those 2 comments, then you know what is coming and what the commune was before Jayce did what he did I won't drop spoilers on you based on lore But that imo... Is the part that helps is understand it all It took me days to work that out btw lol
@Cyfog10
@Cyfog10 Ай бұрын
It needed to absorb her. At the time it was missing 1 of the 5 runes - Inspiration. Her entire walk down the hallway towards her death she was talking to herself about how "inspired" she was and how much Viktor inspired her. The cover of her notebook is also the shape of the inspiration rune in league of legends, which pretty much confirms it for me that she completed the missing piece of the hexcore. What that means however, and how much of her apparent consciousness inside the hexcore is actually "Sky"... I'm not sure. She seems to change more and more each time we see her, evolving alongside Viktor and the hexcore. Really looking forward to the final act and hope to get a lot more context about this.
@austincde
@austincde Ай бұрын
He's really good at understanding others pain but i think hes just projecting their best aspects in his mind, thats why they seem almost too nice? Like his projections are the opposite of Jinx's, where they don't berate him, but care for him
@brandonv6905
@brandonv6905 Ай бұрын
But the skye we see through victor's eyes acts nothing like what we saw of her in season 1. She was just a shy assistant who looked up to victor but now all of the sudden she's a messiah
@Subpar1O1
@Subpar1O1 Ай бұрын
I think Sky either died completely or was changed by being joined go Victor. She acts more like "the angel on Victor's shoulder" than a human being given this kind of power, and viewing it that way kind of makes sense of why she disappeared when Victor became the Machine. He lost the part of him that connected him to his humanity and emotion
@LeeYo-jn7hs
@LeeYo-jn7hs Ай бұрын
The sound of Salo's death is very similar to the sound of dying voidlings in the league. Bel'veth makes the same sound when she absorbs the crystal and turns into a monster
@isaiahkayode6526
@isaiahkayode6526 Ай бұрын
Oh god it’s the Void!
@momsaid
@momsaid Ай бұрын
​@@isaiahkayode6526 the purple made that obvious from the start
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
wow!
@arn8386
@arn8386 Ай бұрын
Nah, it sounds more like the hammer sound effect, obliterating Salo with a heavy force and electric pulse. Bel's sound effects is so much deeper, its creepy and sounds alive. Jayce's hammer sound effect in S2 has the same charactistic as his previous from S1, its electric, its vibrating/pulsating and its way more heavy but it has clearly changed after he was brought back from the anamoly but the charactistic is still there, its more darker though, probably because its been infused with a wild rune effect, a "pissed off Arcane" like Ekko said
@JASilva-w9t
@JASilva-w9t Ай бұрын
You're absolutely right!
@DarkKing009
@DarkKing009 Ай бұрын
Jayce was Right. The "healed" aren't Breathing! The "healed" are slowly losing their humanity. The moment they come back to reality you'll notice Salo isn't even breathing, you can't see his breath in the air.
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Yoooo! What!! I did not notice you could not see his breath! That’s awesome
@Catalanskrr
@Catalanskrr Ай бұрын
Hmm, couldn't it just be a animation mistake? There was nothing hinting towards them being actually dead.
@ΚρανίΩ
@ΚρανίΩ Ай бұрын
@@Catalanskrrno it could not in episode 3 jayce heimer and ekko all have breaths in the weird dome zone. we also see the only 2 relevant "healed people" have the exact same personality and do not feel anything. no fear, no sadness nothing. salo can clearly be seen just being there and unexplucably happy. the salo from before wouldve been scared by jayce if he looked like that, he's a man who gets scared easily, he's impulsive, yet he stayed calm, kept the smile and kept walking. when huck was confronted by zangief and zangief was about to just outright kill him huck just didn't care at all because he can't feel fear. not only that but jayce sees them as empty husks. there is a reason all the dialog we have with healed individual seems very typical and robotic, its because it is. they aren't healed nor are they human. viktor just gives the body hesling in exchange for their souls and humanity basically
@jaieet
@jaieet Ай бұрын
@@ΚρανίΩ They do feel sadness and happiness. We see it when Huck is healed and also see him breathing. Again, we see concern and nervousness (and more breathing) when Huck stops Jinx and Vi at the gate. People keep saying the Husks don't breathe, but Huck breathes and Viktor breathes. I think they're still people. But I am wildly suspicious of the Hex core and sky.
@Kova88
@Kova88 Ай бұрын
​@@Catalanskrr I never got to that conclusion or even noticed it, but I really think there are no animation mistakes in this show. I mean, especially if they cared about attention to the point that you can see Jayce's breath in the same scene with Salo....
@crownhouses2296
@crownhouses2296 Ай бұрын
"Yordles do not age in the same way as beings of the material realm do thanks to being creatures of the spirit realm and therefore have different concepts of aging.[3] In The Meaning in Misery, it was revealed Yordles also don't die." So heimer saying he's 300 could be his perception but to humans he's actually much older than that. Yordles are from the spirit realm too so if a yordle says some magic lookin scary I'm listening
@miraclewhipped5068
@miraclewhipped5068 Ай бұрын
Mostly right but I think it’s more about time doesn’t flow normal when your in bandle city or the “yordle realm” (blanking on the name for it)so he could’ve spent a few years in bandle city but 100s passed on runeterra
@RaiNBowShine999
@RaiNBowShine999 Ай бұрын
Also I think Yordles can die they just respawn in Bandle city.
@thefoxwolfdraconis
@thefoxwolfdraconis Ай бұрын
I still think Veigar is one of the oldest known Yordles though. Yordles dont exactly age like humans, so they just look old for being young. Maybe just headcanon but i REALLY would get a kick from the eccentric traumatized powerful mage being the oldest of everyone
@miraclewhipped5068
@miraclewhipped5068 Ай бұрын
@ I think they age relatively normally when they are walking the earth but when they enter bandle city it has a sort of time dilation effect making years pass on runeterra while it seems like days to the yordles in bandle city
@RaiNBowShine999
@RaiNBowShine999 Ай бұрын
@@thefoxwolfdraconis The oldest Yordle is either Gnar or Fizz.
@Hawkido
@Hawkido Ай бұрын
Viktor was the Lich King with a heart of Gold not realizing that he is still deeply mortal and slowly perishing, and when he dies, each of his converts becomes a cyborg zombie infection vector. That tracks with Viktor's old lore of forced conversion ala Doctor Who's Cybermen.
@yuwi1783
@yuwi1783 Ай бұрын
So based on your argument that when Viktor dies, they become a cyborg zombie infection, then why did Jayce killed Viktor?
@Hawkido
@Hawkido Ай бұрын
@@yuwi1783 because there are only about 300 of them right now... If Viktor continues there will be 3000 of them and they will have been distributed across society and even to other cities. Think ultimate quarantine. If it can be contained to one city it can be stopped.
@blugger
@blugger Ай бұрын
@@yuwi1783 might be ye ol' self-fulfilling prophecy Assuming Jayce saw the future of Viktor's efforts, his attempt to end it all by killing Viktor might have been what triggered the Herald's true pursuit of Glorious Evolution--this time without that pesky and unstable human element Who knows? Maybe all would have been kosher had Jayce left well enough alone. We won't know until the rest of the season is out
@BeyondAbsolute
@BeyondAbsolute Ай бұрын
​@blugger maybe never tbh these things are always so frustrating
@Hawkido
@Hawkido Ай бұрын
@@BeyondAbsolute The "Get Jinx'd" music vid shows Jinx destroying piles of robots in Piltover. Viktor starts a Stellaris Mid-Game Extinction Event.
@crownhouses2296
@crownhouses2296 Ай бұрын
The Jayce Wars on Tiktok have me cracking up but idk how anyone can think viktors commune was not a hive mind cult or at least on its way there LMAO
@daz97
@daz97 Ай бұрын
@@crownhouses2296 It is But the issue is... He only included people who are very unwell, or disabled It genuinely seems like Viktor wants to help, and maybe he doesn't fully understand this stuff himself yet Maybe. I am saying a hive mind doesn't have to be the evil we see in most sci-fi movies If Viktor explains all of this to anyone who wants his help and they agree willingly Then he is doing nothing wrong Now you and myself know Viktor is more like a bad guy than Jayce is, in the game So we have a little more to work with But if you only know the show... You can literally see things at this point, going either way Jayce looks like he's insane with his headaches and illusions etc... Viktor seems like himself in many ways, and Viktor before absorbing the core was a very genuinely good person So it's easy to see how fans who know nothing about lore, think that way I can see both because I haven't played the game I don't real much about game lore etc... But I have read enough to know who's right and who is wrong here... The show hasn't shown that yet though, the show has left 2 possibilities imo and one of them makes Jayce the bad guy Even if there's a hive mind
@mrgankyogurl252
@mrgankyogurl252 Ай бұрын
@@daz97 Jayce is NOT the bad guy lol
@daz97
@daz97 Ай бұрын
@@mrgankyogurl252 Yes I can read and watch videos with lore and possible spoilers also lol But if you look at the show without any of that stuff... It is easy to believe Jayce just destroyed a peaceful commune It's very pretentious to pretend everyone should know this when the show hasn't shown any of this... I watched the show and I thought, and I believed it could go either way... Jayce good or bad and same did Viktor Now I have read lore Peoples opinions based on lore etc Now I can say yeah Viktor is the bad guy But at this point, the show hasn't made that clear It's only clear to us because we know more than the show shown us So just stop it man Stop looking down your noses at people because you found spoilers that some people don't want to know... You're not smarter because you got help from the online community to put it all together And neither am I ✌️
@lorpuz4664
@lorpuz4664 Ай бұрын
I feel that not Even Viktor was trully aware of the hivemind. Like with the hexcore experiments he was to focused on the "helping" to See what was happening
@daz97
@daz97 Ай бұрын
@@lorpuz4664 Or... He did know but he didn't see the problem with a hive mind In fact I'm not sure I see the problem with that if it's done the way Viktor was doing it Because it still helped people No one was forced into it People still had their own personalities and they still retained their memories etc But it did cure peoples illnesses etc, and it never hurt anyone outside of the commune Now he has realised that hate etc is the different side of the same coin, and an important part of it in a way... That your greatest good leads to your greatest evil How do you think that will play out? Assuming he returns? Maybe it was always a good thing, maybe the hive mind isn't a problem because it did help, no one was forced and people retained a lot of themselves still etc Viktor was pure good, purely peaceful throughout the whole commune part of the show So he learned that just one side of that coin doesn't work, pure peace and love doesn't work, it resulted in his death and the end of the commune I think he returns with not only wanting to help those who want help... I think he will return wanting to help and incorporate literally everyone, and do that against their will Because he now embraces the opposite side of the coin to peace Does that make sense? I know we all think hive mind = bad because 99% of the time in all media, it's bad But was the way it seemed to work here really that bad? I'm not sure it was But if Viktor uses it differently... It could be very bad And I think that's what we will get on Saturday Someone who is forcing it on people instead of only helping people And no longer pure peace to achieve his goals
@Hawkido
@Hawkido Ай бұрын
Yordle's don't count the years they spend in Bandle City as age. If they remain in Bandle City they can live forever. So Heimerdinger has spent a bit over 300 years NOT in Bandle CIty. He could have popped out during the rune wars, then retreated for a thousand years, then emerged once again to found a city that rejected magic as a founding principle.
@AlexBlindness
@AlexBlindness Ай бұрын
The song that plays when Jayce touches the wild rune, Ashes and Blood, basically spells out the entire thing. The first few verses feel like a deliverate warning to Jayce and victor. Take a look You walk along the edge of danger And it will change you Why would you let this voice set in your head? It is meant to destroy you You summon storms, you play with nature Now watch it hurt you Why would you want to shape the world in your hands? You will never make it through
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
This is awesome...
@georgex231
@georgex231 Ай бұрын
not only these verses... in continue... You waste your life to gain power (VICTOR) You shift the game rules How does it feel to reach the line that no one ever got to cross? Does it make you a god now? (VICTOR WITH HIS STAFF) Every sin will be forgiven If you lay down your weapons to the ground Catch the fire burning out your soul Just make it die(THE HEXCORE) or you will turn it all Catch the fire burning out your soul Just make it die (THE HEXCORE OR THE VOICE I GUESS) or you will turn it all in ashes and blood (THE VISIONS OF HEIMERDINGER WITH WILDIFIRES AND PEOPLE SUFFERING AND KILLED) in ashes and blood in ashes and blood in ashes and blood in ashes and blood.
@lilchaos9212
@lilchaos9212 Ай бұрын
It may also be referencing the human components of Ashes (Sky) and Blood (Viktor) that corrupted the hexcore in the first place.
@lubbaby208
@lubbaby208 Ай бұрын
​@@georgex231 "every sin will be forgiven, if you lay down your weapons" is literally his cult's mantra too
@georgex231
@georgex231 Ай бұрын
@@lubbaby208 yeah... they used the song's verse INSIDE the show
@Keram-io8hv
@Keram-io8hv Ай бұрын
NGL I love Arcane but I quickly left fan groups because they went absolutely nuclear after that episode with "Jayce greatest monster in the world destroyed the most beautiful colony ever and killed my most beloved baby!" Chill people dude did nothing wrong
@lilchaos9212
@lilchaos9212 Ай бұрын
Some people were so obsessed with Viktor that they couldn't comprehend he was in the wrong or would do anything wrong so they hate on Jayce and don't read any of the subtext that basically screams that the commune is bad and dangerous. They can only read at surface level and are blinded by their favouritism.
@Cyfog10
@Cyfog10 Ай бұрын
I think it's also in part because Jayce has always been a bit pompous, out of touch, and unreliable. He constantly flip flops his goals and actions. Breaks promises, just to uphold them, just to break them. Says Heimer is wrong, then he is right. He has been building resentment in the community then he goes all scorched earth, and add to that we don't have the context from the final act just yet to clarify anything. For me, whether or not Jayce was in the right for shooting Viktor, has no bearing on my disliking him. I will say though I kinda think that was intentional and I think he is written very well.
@Vertutame
@Vertutame Ай бұрын
I meant that's the point of the episode. They made us think jayce is at fault here while hinting something is wrong. Some people take a hint and make a theory Some take a hint and ignore them And some don't see it at all But As someone told me. Good movie made people sit on a table and talk.
@Grimbop
@Grimbop Ай бұрын
@@Cyfog10 To me that just makes him a realistic character. He believes in himself too much but when he is confronted with the facts he changes his mind. He doesnt want to make weapons but piltover needs weapons to fight agaisnt Zaun and their chemtech and he is the only one who can make them, not to mention all the grief that he feels over the attacks on piltover. Of course he is going to think Heimer is wrong about his hextech when it is his lifes work but when he sees evidence of corruption he starts to second guess himself. He isn't a character that flipflops, he is a character who is having his ideals and morals challenged and when that happens you tend to adjust those things. One thing that has stayed pretty consistent is his love for Viktor and the trust he has in him, so for him to kill Viktor must mean he saw something truly challenging to his beliefs.
@StoryBird2
@StoryBird2 Ай бұрын
Yeah that group was obviously a cult and I'm nervous what's gonna happen when Viktor comes back
@lupinparker
@lupinparker Ай бұрын
Weird thought, what if this goes full circle and Jayce gives his hexcrystal to his younger self in the past?
@gianlucader69ste
@gianlucader69ste Ай бұрын
Holy fck that makes so much sense
@peagames2002
@peagames2002 Ай бұрын
I don't think so, he uses a hammer, not a staff. Unless, Jayce stole Viktor's cane turned staff and used it to save the alternative reality.
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
This idea made me think for sure! I like it but that character seems so different from Jayce in terms of body shape. Viktor is possible but I still think Ryze is more likely
@UmamiNoodle
@UmamiNoodle Ай бұрын
@@entgroveI thought it was Jayce at first, too. But yeah- the lithe body shape of the mage got me. I also don’t think it’s Viktor- since Viktor’s hands are all arcane-mechified. The hands of the mage have lines and runes, and notably- skin. Trusting the lore experts on Ryze for this one, ha.
@JennyferPepin
@JennyferPepin Ай бұрын
@@UmamiNoodle Ryze makes more sense, cause essentially, he teleported Jayce and his mother.
@wengel21
@wengel21 Ай бұрын
I think Jayce saw the mistake of not destroying hextech / corrupted hexcore when victor asked him to, and learned that victor was no longer there, or alive himself. (His followers not needing to breath or have free agency)
@lubbaby208
@lubbaby208 Ай бұрын
i think shimmer is extracted from things that have been touched by the void. so when its combined with a hexcore it gets corrupted, and the corruption starts to spill over into the actual arcane as well. or maybe its just a property of the arcane, having both an ordered form and a wild form.
@MalzraAirwynn
@MalzraAirwynn Ай бұрын
I don't know much about LoL lore beyond Arcane, but the way everyone reacted when Viktor died definitely has me raising eyebrows. I don't think Viktor was intentionally doing harm to them but I do think his 'saving' them wasn't as straightforward as it seemed.
@DeadKraken
@DeadKraken Ай бұрын
In the fandom and stans defense, it's easy to be blinded by Viktor serving c+nt with the backless dress and professional balayage😂
@shalimj
@shalimj Ай бұрын
I wish the last episode was like an hour long, I have faith but I get scared it’s gonna feel to rushed. But if it is, at least I enjoyed the experience thus far.
@DigitalFootprintToBeAbused
@DigitalFootprintToBeAbused Ай бұрын
Same, very much same here. So sad it was rushed/crammed. Would have been so good otherwise.
@DeadKraken
@DeadKraken Ай бұрын
@@DigitalFootprintToBeAbused Tbh the only part that truly feels rushed is the Jayce\Viktor storyline. All the others are either consequences or logical events that have been set in season 1, and are much easier to handle. My theory is that the Jayce\Viktor storyline is destined to continue in the next series, while Cat, Vi, Jinx and all the Piltover characters will be concluded this season, because those characters don't seem to have much more to tell outside the Piltover\Zaun context. With that in mind, then it makes sense to have 4 episodes out of 6 where Jayce or Viktor don't even appear, only one episode completely dedicated to them so far, and the introduction of time traveling and parallel universes so late. Ambessa and Singed will carry the Black Rose storyline(maybe also with Mel) and Viktor and maybe even Warwick will be the popular characters to hook the public to the next series imo.
@Subpar1O1
@Subpar1O1 Ай бұрын
​@@DeadKrakentbf most of S2 is pretty good albeit a bit more rushed than the complete product S1 was, but Jayce and Victor's plotline suffered because not only was it rushed it was intrinsic to nearly every other plotline in the last act. Their plotline being rushed made the whole thing feel kind of messy
@Bem-0
@Bem-0 Ай бұрын
Jayce is not wrong. Scared for my life saying that in this community.
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Same loll
@daz97
@daz97 Ай бұрын
For what we have seen in screen it logically could go either way Yes Viktor creates hive minds etc But he is only using this on people who need healing... Some people would rather live that way than as a disabled or dying person There's nothing directly Evil in his choices imo Plus Viktor is a good person, even if him bonding with the core makes him less good That said... Jayce knows something Well we also see Jayce seeing illusions etc That makes it look bad, like Jayce is being controlled But obviously, like yourselves... I have read people's theories and game lore And I know Jayce is right and Viktor is wrong But the show hasn't really shown this yet So it's really not the fans fault
@aooide
@aooide Ай бұрын
Don't worry we will be eating good once Act 3 drops. I hope...
@jewn304
@jewn304 Ай бұрын
even if viktor died, warwick wouldn't go completely ballistic let alone LAVA, it was because of singed serum :'(( I think ambessa is the true killjoy for the happy family of jinx and vi
@daz97
@daz97 Ай бұрын
@@jewn304 I must be wrong? But I was sure that Cait stopped him from injecting that serum into Vander?
@my2randomcents
@my2randomcents Ай бұрын
I kinda feel like Jayce is gonna cause the very thing that he came back to prevent; as Singed is a wild card that nobody knew about so no way in hell would Jayce know that by killing Victor he'd ensure his resurrection as the Herald
@hellofriend545
@hellofriend545 Ай бұрын
12:10 I don’t think the top is a “crown,” I think it’s literally showing how Salo is becoming empty, and how the other healed people will eventually become hollow, eaten out alive by the Arcane, consumed and replaced by these weird, metallic exoskeleton shells. Like you said, Jayce might be seeing what these people are/become in alternate dimensions due to interacting with the arcane, due to being reassembled and reforged by the arcane. Think how empty and peaceful these people act, how they kinda float through their activities in a detached way. Even that weird bell that was being rung when Vander is first brought up to Viktor, it barely resonates, and seems to be swinging so slowly that the bell barely rings with a gentle toll, like there’s barely contact inside to strike and make the sound. That’s what it feels like is going on inside these people’s heads. Gently functioning, but not really-floating, restrained, and distant.
@woodyscorner8536
@woodyscorner8536 Ай бұрын
The top of the head is referred to as the crown, pretty sure that’s what he means
@Hawkido
@Hawkido Ай бұрын
Also getting a Fallout4 Synth vibe as well. The Synth's that don't know they are synths until they are given the command. Viktor is a puppet but doesn't realize it, you see the strings twice. Once hanging loose when he first energes, then at the end with him suspended in the air by lines, very much like a marionette.
@blugger
@blugger Ай бұрын
@@Hawkido when he emerged from the hexcore cocoon, he was also trailing light that led back to the mesh that he had emerges from
@Hawkido
@Hawkido Ай бұрын
@@blugger Yeah the tethers seemed to fade into another plane. The tethers aren't always visible. They may be what is connecting Viktor to that body. Later in the cocoon you see the tethers, and those might be connecting him to all the other drones. Jayce's flashes are him seeing what is inside of these people, very much the robo drones you see Jinx fighting in the "Get Jinx'd" music video.
@uberemmer
@uberemmer Ай бұрын
I think Jayce is currently combined with several different versions of him (from other timelines, perhaps). We see him, Ekko, and Heimer being broken apart into abstract hextech / time shenanigans and he's 'reassembled' at the end of ep 5. I think this is what causes him to (mentally) struggle staying 'whole' as he sometimes seems to almost break apart. It's as if he's fused with 3 other selves that are all constantly talking in his head, and he does his best to keep reminding himself of that mantra "I won't fail, I swear it" (which reaaally sounds like a promise to Ekko/Heimerdinger). I could also be completely wrong of course, I'm so intrigued to see what caused him to go from puking upon the sight of corpses to killing Salo and Viktor.
@MaggieMacAlpine
@MaggieMacAlpine Ай бұрын
Yeah I agree with this and was surprised the video didn't mention it. Jayce is actively being re-fused with himself from other timelines as he's walking towards Viktor. It's clearly very painful and disorienting, but he actually seems to get more focused every time it happens once he recovers.
@vzus
@vzus Ай бұрын
3:23 Yordels experience time differently then mortal beings while they are in bandle city, which is located outside of time in a sense. So Haimer can be only 300 years form his perspective, while on runtera a millennium could've already passed. The timeline would make little sense considering noxus is around 900 years old at the time of arcane and it was established long after the rune wars
@raeldri5867
@raeldri5867 Ай бұрын
I think Jayce is also being manipulated or miss guided, he has corruption in his wrist (probably also inside him) and in his hammer (even the gemstone is different), so it's possible what ever or whoever send him back probably send him with the idea of preventing a possible future or the actual future but in reality he is just making it happen, Viktor knew that his power was finite and was ok with this idea because he rejected to use Vander already but now that he's almost dying probably the hexcore trying to save itself will change him (or also Singed, he already saw him as the answer to save his daughter so now that no one is there to stop him he can gets his hands on Viktor)
@КристиянДимитров-ъ5н
@КристиянДимитров-ъ5н Ай бұрын
Wepons arent permited in victors colonie but the jayce had one yet the kid still led him to victors main body so maybe a part of victor knew what he was there to do
@peapod5629
@peapod5629 Ай бұрын
Jayce snuck in through a side entrance I believe
@Eternally_Ninja
@Eternally_Ninja Ай бұрын
He did: when Salo died the wild rune gave him a vision of Jayce killing him, also killing salo on its own is pretty clear Jayce wasnt on his way with cookies lol. Later Viktor asks Singed if he believes in fate; hinting that he knows whats coming. Then when Viktor is dying he says he finally understands why the wild rune showed him the vision, to show him the root of all Evil/Good in the world is caused by our own humanity. The final context being the only way to escape our Chaos/War/Annihilation is to remove our HUMANITY, act 3 is about to be hella dark.
@КристиянДимитров-ъ5н
@КристиянДимитров-ъ5н Ай бұрын
@@peapod5629 he was going to attack a kid and a whole crowd saw him
@blugger
@blugger Ай бұрын
It makes sense that for members commune to do that because they're all literally radically altered by hex tech AND they're probably just assuming jayce was exactly as Viktor's first convert (willing to harm until fixed). After all, a punch girl and a homicidal maniac led a giant beast monster and-worse-a TEEMO into camp and Viktor was handling all that perfectly fine! Now, why *Viktor* didn't do anything about the very real threat he literally saw coming...no idea
@kal.asther
@kal.asther Ай бұрын
@@blugger Where was the Teemo? Isha?
@coedeed
@coedeed Ай бұрын
idk if anyone has mentioned this, but around 13:00 when the red is going in front of jayce and salo, for jayce his skin is dark, muted, the eyes are bright, as well as the teeth. for salo, the skin is bright almost like a metal mask and the eyes are dark and void of light.
@snazzycactus6748
@snazzycactus6748 Ай бұрын
This damn season is going to make me break my league sobriety😭😭😭😭
@joshuagraham2843
@joshuagraham2843 Ай бұрын
Oh it gets worse
@OGSwiller
@OGSwiller Ай бұрын
Don’t do it
@p77kgq
@p77kgq Ай бұрын
You will jump back, get 3 dogded lobbies, then you get a game with teammates that start flaming since 1 minute, you get afk in 5th minute with teammates refusing to surrender and you will rage quit. There, dont do it, the game is cancer. Not worth going back.
@morantNO1
@morantNO1 Ай бұрын
The game is nothing like the show. No need to play League. It won't scratch the same itch as arcane does.
@JaceAce22
@JaceAce22 Ай бұрын
Bro, you called Jayce's journey into the Arcane infected world, what a guy
@BoredInMyBackyard
@BoredInMyBackyard Ай бұрын
In season 1 episode 2, there's a scene with purple shimmer veins on the floor and walls. When Marcus stepped on one, there's a high-pitched screech -- similar to the commune souls of season 2 episode 6. Thought that was worth mentioning Edit: timestamp for scene in comments
@BoredInMyBackyard
@BoredInMyBackyard Ай бұрын
Season 1 Episode 2 19 minutes 11 seconds Caption: [disembodied voices]
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Very worth mentioning!! I did not notice this
@BoredInMyBackyard
@BoredInMyBackyard Ай бұрын
​@@entgroveyou make great videos and informative content hope your channel sees the growth it deserves
@daz97
@daz97 Ай бұрын
@@BoredInMyBackyard That's interesting man... I already assumed the Shimmer was the cause for the hexcore being corrupt, and that seems to basically proves it I will rewatch from episode 1 once the last act is released and hopefully notice that myself now
@MagmaAdminCourtneysHusband
@MagmaAdminCourtneysHusband Ай бұрын
this is such a good catch yo! i thought the screams sounded really similar to something voidy, like malzahar's voidlings when they die, so it really feels like shimmer is related to the void
@noobtitude3558
@noobtitude3558 Ай бұрын
All the creatures seen by Jayce have lost their brain. They lost their humanity.
@Minish_Alex
@Minish_Alex Ай бұрын
I don't understand all the hate towards Jayce I mean people act like Jayce wants to destroy other people's happiness... His mission was just to stop Viktor after he OBVIOUSLY saw terrible things that was shown pretty clearly
@nununa7963
@nununa7963 Ай бұрын
lots of people hate men that aren't established as underpriviliged, an obvious person of colour or physically/mentally impaired, especially if they're in a higher position of power. He makes understandable mistakes and tries his best to do the correct course of action but is hated just due to his "vibes" and mistakes. I'd argue that most of the cast are morally worse off than him but expect to see more fans defending a terrorist than jayce, especially since hes blamed for the viktor and vander situation at first glance
@Nerolir-kf9ok
@Nerolir-kf9ok Ай бұрын
People are hating on him from the mindset that his actions led to Vander being basically dead and stuck as Warwick and Isha sacrificing herself, that's why most people are hating on him. Viktor's powers were one of the only things at the time keeping Vander slightly in control and now that he's dead Vander doesn't have control anymore and is basically gone. I know a bit about the original LoL lore so I knew why Jayce did it but I couldn't help hate him a bit also after how everything played out.
@Nerolir-kf9ok
@Nerolir-kf9ok Ай бұрын
@@nununa7963 What are you talking about? The first part of your response has nothing to do with this topic but the him being blamed for the vander situation and Isha dying are why most people dislike him right now. It has nothing to do with what you mentioned in the beginning of your comment
@system_ai9248
@system_ai9248 Ай бұрын
​@@Nerolir-kf9okIt is heavily implied that Singed succesfully aplied the serum to Vander causing his rampage, it bothers me how little the serum is taken into consideration when Vander literally turns into fricking lava. I get how at first glance it may be simply because Viktor died, but I swear it's like they really want everything to be on Jayce's shoulders because they don't like the character
@Nerolir-kf9ok
@Nerolir-kf9ok Ай бұрын
@system_ai9248 There's literally a whole montage of Viktor using his powers to untether Vander from the beast, it's implied that the reason why Vander was stable was a combination of remembering his daughters and Viktor's powers. Viktor dying removed his influence from the people he healed which of course caused Warwick to come back in full effect. I know the original jayce and viktor lore but people who've never interacted with arcane don't and I can understand why they see the last episode and hate jayce for his actions. They're going to see in later episodes why he did what he did but Isha died and Vander turned permanently into Warwick, two characters people are attached to so it's not hard to see why people blame Jayce for losing those two characters cause he's technically is the cause of it
@bandi642
@bandi642 Ай бұрын
I defended Gavi in attack on titan. And i will defend the protector of tomorrow today
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Gabi was overhated for sure
@DJ_Penguin
@DJ_Penguin Ай бұрын
I think Jayce was IS right, but not why we think based some of the things this video pointed out that i missed. I think those creatures Jayce is seeing are what happens to Viktors people after he dies without reaching his final evolution. They get corrupted by the void. But i think killing Viktor here allows him to evolve. The hexcore at the hex gate takes control of his followers to resurrect him. This makes him evolve into something like a shuriman ascended. The butterfly motiff and the weird cocoon he's living in I think is the best proof i have for this theory. It looks an awful lot like the sun disk of the shuriman empire. There is a butterfly affect from the moment Jayce tries to kill the hexcore and that triggers Viktors final glorious evolution. Whether thats a good or a bad thing is hard to say, but i think viktor might get some time powers out of it, and he sends jayce to the other reality to convince him to kill him. Weird time loop shenanigans basically.
@evil_radfem9162
@evil_radfem9162 Ай бұрын
no
@EKATERINAS-bv8ld
@EKATERINAS-bv8ld Ай бұрын
Also interesting that Jayce's corrupted new hammer also resembles butterfly
@DJ_Penguin
@DJ_Penguin Ай бұрын
@@evil_radfem9162 Actually, surprisingly, yes. I just wasn't thinking big enough.
@Hawkido
@Hawkido Ай бұрын
I have two guesses as to why Jayce did this, either an alternate timeline Viktor made him swear to save his alternate from a FAR worse fate. Or Jayce saw that Victor is inadvertently forming a cyborg zombie apocalypse. Right now only Viktor can convert someone with a touch, but each time it weakens Viktor, until he shall ultimately die, then each of these drones become inhabited by "Something Else" as they are now empty vessels. Then each of these "Drones" can now convert people with a touch. I found it interesting that the only drones that screech are the ones that were Shimmer Wretches healed by Viktor. When Viktor "Dies" the prior Shimmer users are the first to be "Occupied".
@dorktales254
@dorktales254 21 күн бұрын
Lol both your theories were correct
@suchendnachwahrheit9143
@suchendnachwahrheit9143 Ай бұрын
This aged magnificently
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Woo hah thanks such
@JennyferPepin
@JennyferPepin Ай бұрын
What's great about the writing is that Viktor is made to be seen as a savior from the audience's perspective, someone who is good doing good things, because he is trying to 'save' Vandar while Jayce is made to look like the antagonist who disrupts the 'saving' by destroying Viktor.
@pablonunalvares5391
@pablonunalvares5391 Ай бұрын
The shattered "wild rune church" that Viktor lives is much like the wild rune that appears twice when Jayce trips balls. He was probably seeing the future he had to turn into reality. Also, quite a few of the godly spirits (heroes) are shown in flashes. What we're seeing may be an arcane fight using mankind as puppets
@Keyblader001
@Keyblader001 Ай бұрын
I do feel like Jayce is being sent by Ekko and Heimer to fix things, and get them out. Ekko must have seen, or visited multiple timelines, and knows what has to happen to free them, and put things on a path that they want. We saw in the previews for season 2, that Ekko is going to have the Zdrive in the big climax. Also looks like Singed is going to save Viktor, and most likely Viktor will be the one that involuntarily creates Orianna, either thanking Singed for saving him, or being forced to. Since they've retconned/ merged Singed's lore with Orianna's father.
@UmamiNoodle
@UmamiNoodle Ай бұрын
Great video. I never caught the “Viktor holding his staff” in Jayce’s visions. It took me awhile to see Viktor’s face, ha. Singed seems involved with bringing Viktor back. Maybe with the use of Warwick’s mutation. The theory of the commune members as batteries is fascinating, and I think true! Great reminder of Jayce’s character change. Throwing up on the bridge to killing Salo. So far- the puzzle pieces of the season are fitting together really interestingly. Learning the later importance of the spoiled counselor member Salo turning into a commune member- and showcasing the strangeness of the arcane within the commune members is masterclass. Subscribed. :)
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks Umami!! :)
@YuumiTrash
@YuumiTrash Ай бұрын
Man, that intro took me out. SO good lol. I saw this theory on twitter about the mage that saved Jayce being Viktor, which kind of makes the timeloop thing more plausible. But I also don't think that's what's going on. My main issue right now is trying to figure out where on the timeline this is happening, because if we go by what's in the Realms of Runeterra book, Heimerdinger would have to be like 1000 years old to have seen the Rune Wars in any capacity (I know that time works differently in Bandle City and for Yordles). Also, if you look when Viktor and Sky are ruminating about the entity Jayce has with him, look at Viktor's chest. There's a friggin black hole in it where Jayce wrecks his shit later.
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks Yuumi!! The 1000 years thing is confusing me to. Only thing to make it 1k years is like your saying. He saw it, went to Handle city where time works differently, returned about 900 years later which was only 100 years for him or something
@deboraron2794
@deboraron2794 Ай бұрын
IMMEDIATELY sent this to my lil bro, we are so ready for Saturday!
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks Deb!! Same same :)
@Galimeer5
@Galimeer5 Ай бұрын
"They called me a madman, then what I predicted came to pass"
@entgrove
@entgrove 29 күн бұрын
Thanks Gal! Check out my Jinx video that just dropped! People calling me mad over there and could use a comment like this lol
@arn8386
@arn8386 Ай бұрын
In that scene with Singed and Viktor, I think Singed was trying to convince Viktor (for his own purpose) to use Warwicks regenerating blood, making Viktor more powerful in order to save his dying daughter. Singed is manipulative character, he doesnt care about Viktor's emotions, his community or personal conquest. His mission is only to save his daughter and he'll do anything to achieve it, anything. Thats why when he woke up after being attacked by Caitlyn, he then injected Warwick with something (probably a variant of shimmer) that caused him to go into frenzy and become a beast once more, serving Singed, causing chaos and continue his work on him....also my theory that he probably brought Viktor back to his lab where he injects Warwicks blood into the "dead" Viktor, making him stronger and more powerful so he can save his daughter
@clivir8809
@clivir8809 Ай бұрын
This age like fine WINE 🍷😂😭
@mah1ro267
@mah1ro267 Ай бұрын
I personally think Hextech itself as a tool isn't the problem. It's probably more using Hextech on LIVING things. The Hexgates who transport ships+people got corrupted, and Viktor who used it on himself + shimmer even more so. The other tools did only make problems when the wild rune reacted, but aside from that they seem still fine.
@Kennedy00Louis
@Kennedy00Louis Ай бұрын
Another good catch I've seen someone point out, in the room where Jayce is with Salo, the room is cold, Jayce's breathing has steam coming out, as well as Ekko and Heimerdinger beforehand, but Salo doesn't have steam, he doesn't have body temperature at all. I fully believe that whatever Viktor is doing isn't what he thinks, he isn't saving anyone, they're becoming lifeless husks devoid of their own thought for some terrible purpose, there's no way the arrogant Salo would become a cult follower willingly, I imagine he would at least thank him but then he would go back to his own life with his legs healed, but his speech and mannerisms were uncannily different from his usual self.
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Seen people saying this! Wish i noticed it before publishing the video. Such an awesome call out
@FrozenXplays
@FrozenXplays 28 күн бұрын
this guy just predicted the entire plot, hats off
@lorpuz4664
@lorpuz4664 Ай бұрын
I just hope act 3 starts with a recap of what jayce ekko and heimer expierienced while lost ln the wild rune...
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Same and I think we will because that story needs to stay here and can’t get resolved in the next series
@hscorpionquaresma4476
@hscorpionquaresma4476 Ай бұрын
i think that core deep underground was probably corrupted by victor's blood , in act1 he was coffing near a big pit , and heimer see's where that drop fell on the floor, you can see it corrupted the floor, this might mean its connected with victor somehow :D
@jonathans.8537
@jonathans.8537 Ай бұрын
As someone from the future I can tell you that you are correct
@MrReindeerIRL
@MrReindeerIRL Ай бұрын
Is it possible Jayce was sent back to the war and saw how even with good intentions it only leads to the end of the world. Or this is Viktor taking control of Jayce and trying to stop himself
@davidtellnojokes5277
@davidtellnojokes5277 Ай бұрын
You may be onto something. Everybody speculates that he went into the future but then he should already know about Viktors powers. But when talking to Salo he seems genuinely suprised thay Viktor can communicate through him.
@MrReindeerIRL
@MrReindeerIRL Ай бұрын
@davidtellnojokes5277 I didn't really even notice that his kinda surprised by what Viktor has become more than knowing what his capable of. Also if he knew what Viktor was going to become he wouldn't have shot him, causing a man already losing faith in the world lose his final attempt at fixing it. Instead he would've tried to guide Viktor away from the future he saw
@davidtellnojokes5277
@davidtellnojokes5277 Ай бұрын
Yep he either went back in time to the rune wars or into a more distant future where everyone was already dead and the world was taken over by the Arcane/ Void
@MaggieMacAlpine
@MaggieMacAlpine Ай бұрын
Personally, I don't think the promise Jayce made to not fail was to Heimerdinger and Ekko (though it's a reasonable theory and could prove true). I think he made the promise to Viktor in another timeline. Really though, my only evidence is that Jayce has done EVERYTHING for Viktor up to this point, and I don't think Heimerdinger and Ekko could extract a promise like that out of him to kill Viktor. I think VIKTOR is the only person who could actually convince Jayce to give up their Hextech dream and to let him die in order to save the world, otherwise I think Jayce would just fight it forever (and IMO, those overlays while he's shooting at Viktor are other times he's done this and was more resistant, more angry, more sad, and failed as a result, that's why he has to be so grim and focused this time) and perhaps HAS already fought it for a long time before coming to the conclusion that it must be done, but only for Viktor's sake.
@Wndrfl7
@Wndrfl7 27 күн бұрын
Well you kinda read it all like a book before the 3rd act came out, Bravo!
@raimboy2001
@raimboy2001 Ай бұрын
12:32 If you see there, Salo's breath does not show like Jayce, and if you go back to the scene where the Heimer, Ekko and Jayce were there, you can see that, that room is very cold!
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
I wish I bought this before I posted the video!
@PorthoGamesBR
@PorthoGamesBR Ай бұрын
Shimmer comes from that weird, axolotl looking creature that Singed was keeping alive. I know its a long stretch but... what if that creature is from The Void? Or at least corrupted by the void, thats why its the last of their species, every other died because of the void. So shimmer would be that thing blood with void essence
@PorthoGamesBR
@PorthoGamesBR Ай бұрын
Yeah, the flower looks more that it comes from the void
@thethreeidiots7819
@thethreeidiots7819 Ай бұрын
A small channel to be pumping out this content is amazing keep up the good work
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
thanks three!! :) Hopefully the channel continues to grow and I can invest even more time into my Runeterra lore videos
@Xuvier
@Xuvier Ай бұрын
took me almost 20 minutes to realize this is a 3k sub channel. CRAZY?! Great quality editing and video format. Instant sub. Pointed out so many small details I missed.
@hellofriend545
@hellofriend545 Ай бұрын
“A singularity simultaneously self-replicating and self-annihilating” So fun fact, a singularity in physics is something infinitely dense, like something that warps space time, like a black hole. And also a singularity is a name for when technology hits a point that it’s basically self persisting and evolves without human influence. Interesting that the “wild rune” might be an intensely densely packed system of arcane magic, yet it still has space inside of it, or at least, an empty space as we can perceive it. Maybe that wild rune is like a capsule containing a form of concentrated arcane magic. Also, I like to think that’s what Jayce experienced-he was constantly replicated and annihilated by the rune, maybe even across dimensions, as the rune constantly re-assembled and disassembled Jayce, like he was a curiosity for the rune to “learn” from. That’s part of why he vibrates and fades and sees flashes of the world differently. Maybe he’s still experiencing being dissected and rebuilt by the arcane. That would be fucked up lol
@athreadpool
@athreadpool Ай бұрын
Subbed. You did a lot of bold thinking and it was fun to join you for the ride while you laid out your suggestions
@Bundalaba
@Bundalaba Ай бұрын
I LOVE IT. At first watch we be like JAYCE RUINED EVERYTHING ! But careful observations reveal more and MORE, like how Vander was actually INJECTED to his painful Lava like state ETC.
@Abyss-Watcher
@Abyss-Watcher Ай бұрын
Eh that was more then likely Singed injecting Vander with the serum to completely remove his humanity as he is seen in the house standing even though he was knocked out.
@sweettt321
@sweettt321 Ай бұрын
Bro, how do you still only have three thousand subs? These videos are a joy to watch. I hope your channel grows quickly because you deserve it (and that intro with "with forty two consecutive victories, including a small child" took me out. I laughed way harder than I want to admit)
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
As long as some people are watching and like the videos i am happy hah Thanks Sweett!!! :)
@coxfire
@coxfire 29 күн бұрын
Yes and No. Stopping Viktor was right, but not the way he went at it. What prompted Viktor to go "humanity sucks" is Jayce creating a bloodbath by blowing a hole in his chest, therefore removing Vander from Warwick and leading the attack of Ambessa. In the end, it's by dialoguing and reaching through who Viktor was initially at his core that Jayce managed to get through him, by using their friendship rather than violence. He cleaned up nicely after messing up, and therefore became "right", but in that instant, no he wasn't
@jmm.8119
@jmm.8119 Ай бұрын
This aged damn well
@ayaxx4940
@ayaxx4940 24 күн бұрын
It’s crazy how much of this is accurate to the finale like it’s not all but very close
@RefRed_King
@RefRed_King 27 күн бұрын
that scene still shakes me when jayce kills salo
@entgrove
@entgrove 26 күн бұрын
Salon just pops. Its violent for sure
@comrad3892
@comrad3892 Ай бұрын
3:20 I think that Heimerdinger witnessed the rune war and retreated into the bandle city where time flows very differently, so him witnessing something thousands of years ago, but being only 300 years old makes sense
@alexmaystryshin2559
@alexmaystryshin2559 Ай бұрын
You did a great job on detailing lots of missed scenes brother!
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks alex!!
@yvjyang
@yvjyang Ай бұрын
Solid review. Definitely deserves more views!
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks yang!!
@BoredInMyBackyard
@BoredInMyBackyard Ай бұрын
Agreed 👏
@ashestoashes6809
@ashestoashes6809 Ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel, I've been looking for league lore channels and yours matches exactly what I've been looking for and am surprised that you dont have more subs, your content is great keep it up and I'm sure you will blow up soon!
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks ashes!! :) Hope you like some of my other Runeterra lore videos!
@we1rdo_man
@we1rdo_man 27 күн бұрын
now everyone, APOLOGISE
@keilacathy
@keilacathy Ай бұрын
Here after watching the final episodes and dude you’re pretty spot on.
@CarlosHerasme
@CarlosHerasme Ай бұрын
Something to add to the discussion: I think what we're watching here is the reason why Jayce is known as "The Defender of Tomorrow". Probably, this is the way the Riot is telling the story of how Jayce got that title, or at least the beginning of it. In the other side, Singed "reviving" Viktor would also add to the lore by redirecting Viktor as what we know of him in the current lore. I'm really anxious to watch the next three episodes. I hope we can see some time travelling done by Ekko, and it would be great if Camille or Renata appears because the Camille's family was already mentioned and Renata is supposed to be one of the people who financed the Viktor experiments in Zaun.
@Tiniestwombat
@Tiniestwombat Ай бұрын
I wonder if Victor will bring back Orianna. We see Salo coming back from the dead in the teaser. Maybe he is going to turn everyone into robo zombies.
@ranniemanangan5371
@ranniemanangan5371 Ай бұрын
But if so, that would explain why in League, Orianna is more robotic than humane
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
I think singed will eventually bring back Orianna but not till the next series after arcane
@Tiniestwombat
@Tiniestwombat Ай бұрын
@@entgrove She is Chekhov's corpse right now. Either she will rise in glorious mechanical evolution or just be a teaser for the future. I personally think it would be better to use her if they showed her. Also it makes sense. Singed is more a chemist than an engineer and she is all metal. She has no shimmer tanks like his other experiments.
@stewpitedu7541
@stewpitedu7541 Ай бұрын
Here’s your comments so KZbin can recommend you more. I appreciate you dedicating a video explaining the ending of the hextec sub arch. Now I have a grasp of what happened and how to think for the last 3 episodes for this Saturday
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks stew!! :)
@wanderingsoul7690
@wanderingsoul7690 Ай бұрын
Void theory supporter here like many of you lore enjoyers I have the brainrot ever since Act2 S1. One thing that I like to point out it is the sound of the hexcore in S1. In one of the episodes where Viktor is showing Jayce the hexcore with the plants he says something like "Watch" (its at S1 Ep6 exactly around 15mins, turn up volume its so subtle and it lasts barely a second) and a bunch of audiofx play. To my brainrotted dome I immediately thought wait that clicking audiofx sounds SO similar to the clicking that Reksai (from LoL) and the Xer'Sai (LoR) which immediately reinforced the brainrot. Edited some typos and corrections. Oh shit i forgot it also actually plays in the heimer flashback here as shown in the video hahaha
@RasplinYT
@RasplinYT Ай бұрын
7:55 “Chaos” … as in his ultimate Chaos Storm?
@klibe
@klibe Ай бұрын
Also, jayce's hex crystal was originally gray, out of charge, but when he's back its full blue, prob doesnt change much but its a nice detail
@Marty51416
@Marty51416 Ай бұрын
There are more bits revealed in the very first trailer if I recall correctly, where heimerdinger and ekko have this conversation '' something with letting go''. This links in with you're vision.
@petermorales2993
@petermorales2993 Ай бұрын
I hope your channel explodes to fame. This content is treasure, keep it up my guy. Will be watching every video in your channel from now on
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Wow thanks Peter!
@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman
@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman Ай бұрын
Jayce going an entire season without slaughtering children challenge level impossible
@adinab478
@adinab478 Ай бұрын
Realistically he only killed one child and that was by accident
@TacoZ24
@TacoZ24 Ай бұрын
You are doing amazing work with these videos you are putting out. The passion for the lore can be heard through the tone of your voice and your editing gets better with every video. Keep up the good work and cant wait to see what else you have in store!
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks Taco!!! :)
@clowntown1017
@clowntown1017 Ай бұрын
I feel like even if viktors body dies, that his consciousness will still be alive, and how he matches more with his league self will be like a steel body made for or by him
@PorthoGamesBR
@PorthoGamesBR Ай бұрын
300 years is a long time pal. World war 1 and 2 were less than that
@MusssabM
@MusssabM Ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video. You deserve more brother!
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks brother!! :)
@Levantandoando
@Levantandoando Ай бұрын
I love finding small gold channels like this. Destined to grow big.
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
thanks Levan! :)
@bloomenvogel
@bloomenvogel Ай бұрын
At first viewing, I thought Jayce's monologue "i wont fail" was a call back to when Viktor first told him to destroy the hexcore.
@TheSwooj
@TheSwooj Ай бұрын
100% believe this is a situation where in trying to stop the dark future you cause the dark future
@Mr_Dandy_Lion
@Mr_Dandy_Lion Ай бұрын
Given the timeline, after Arcane the next series should be Noxus getting chemtek and re-invading Ionia.
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
I feel like noxus is the obvious choice too. They are adding so many questions around Noxus it would be weird to go anywhere else
@cheahfeng4433
@cheahfeng4433 Ай бұрын
He basically pulled a Aushwalen on his ppl stripping them of the energy he bestowed them but also their intrinsic energy turning them into the robot zombie looking things Jayce sees and maybe the fingerprints left on them are actually so deeply rooted that after their flesh was ripped from them it shows how the Arcane has taken root in them
@wadxles
@wadxles Ай бұрын
One thing I noticed was that when Jayce and Salo are talking, and the camera shot is looking at a character through the translucent wild rune, Salo’s eyes are dark and Jayce’s eyes are glowing. Not sure if it means anything especially with how Jayce’s eyes seem to be affected the most by his time in the rune.
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
I kept looking at this but wasn’t sure if I was just seeing things. Felt like they kept showing them pass behind the rays for a reason, paused it multiple times. That salo had no breadth was another big sign in this room that I missed
@UntamableGaming
@UntamableGaming Ай бұрын
I feel like there's so much to the story still and we only have 3 episodes left. What a great breakdown. Thank you!
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks Untamable!! :)
@uvindukulathunga3860
@uvindukulathunga3860 Ай бұрын
7:38 its a property of Both , a property of sentience . I think thats also what Victor concluded at the end . Singed said Evolution is the driving force of Life , which is true for us . But for Arcane or Arcane enhanced life (life from this world) there is a fate . I think its because Arcane is time transcending .
@Smokey348
@Smokey348 19 күн бұрын
I always have said that the void is connected with viktor because of shimmer. Shimmer seems to be the means to make an opening to the void. I mean go check out deckards transformation in S1, there are some sort of screeches coming out of him as if shimmer connects you to the Void. Same when the converted people in the conclave die when Herald/conclave Viktor dies. They all give some sort of terrifying screech
@randoclips1762
@randoclips1762 Ай бұрын
Hexcore is giving off the same power aura as the World Runes in Ryze cinematic. Heimer said he had seen something simlar before and it flashbacks to Rune Wars. World Rune of Madness gives off the same power aura as the Hexcore. Could it be The World Rune of Madness calling out to Viktor getting him to make the Hexcore. The World Rune is tricking Viktor into thinking hes healing people but hes actually just turning them into people he can mind controll. Could it be the World Rune is hidden deep in Zaun and thats why Viktor goes down there? The Hexcore Leads him down there. In the Ryze cinematic. Ryze says that the World Runes call out and wants to be used. Cant see them pulling in the Void into this story when they already made so much ground work for Runes, Rune magic, and flashbacks from Runewars
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
this would be insane, and i like it
@thrillcollectors
@thrillcollectors Ай бұрын
12:47 I missed this but GREAT attention to detail. Him asking Salo if he is still in there, wasn’t just to ask for him back but he was asking to see if there is any Salo left. So cool.
@Labuddhista
@Labuddhista Ай бұрын
Dude you explained this shit so well left me speechless great video gang could not have said it better Fr
@entgrove
@entgrove Ай бұрын
Thanks labudd!!
@ronansmith2566
@ronansmith2566 Ай бұрын
holy fuck that title, glad I've already watched it.
@MALYANKAVICH
@MALYANKAVICH Ай бұрын
time line wise it still makes sense its different cannon for one and himer could've just seen a single world rune in action
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