The Porsche Macan T is Surprisingly Good, With One HUGE Problem...

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JayEmm on Cars

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Жыл бұрын

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Today I drive the Porsche Macan T. Aimed at the keen driver, this is still a £55,800 two-tonne SUV that has the same engine as a Golf GTI. How can Porsche justify it, and is this even a real Porsche? Let's find out!
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@nelsonclub7722
@nelsonclub7722 Жыл бұрын
I had one of these for a little while - I loved it but the kids hated it - the back seats are so uncomfortable for them -especially the middle - I sat in them on a drive and agreed - so I was faced with a choice and going fully against my better judgement on such things I decided to keep the kids. I have regretted this decision ever since!
@daveg5574
@daveg5574 8 ай бұрын
😄😄😅
@GirlyEnglishGamer
@GirlyEnglishGamer 7 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@krshouryapathak
@krshouryapathak 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@MegatronRacing237
@MegatronRacing237 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@mainamuturi6944
@mainamuturi6944 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@harryspeakup8452
@harryspeakup8452 Жыл бұрын
Narratively, I honestly think this is your best car review to date. Very well thought out, structured and argued.
@AbA-bi5dz
@AbA-bi5dz 8 ай бұрын
This is my 1st with him but I have to agree with you, cos I am just seating in my chair, and it seems like I am watching/ listening to an interesting story as opposed to a regular car review. Hmm Great video!
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 Жыл бұрын
The problem is at 25:50
@numbereightyseven
@numbereightyseven Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@brianrobertson781
@brianrobertson781 Жыл бұрын
We test-drove the base Macan while shopping for similar 2.0T luxury commuter SUVs (X3, GLC 300, Q5, etc). The chassis, steering, and gearbox were in an entirely different class, and the cockpit is well-optioned without being cluttered (or worse, gimmicky - I’m looking at you disco lighting MB). It was enough to get me in the door with the brand. What sold me was the 2.9T V6 the Macan S borrows from the GTS. While there’s a stated performance difference, in reality it’s slight, meaning the S might be the best value in the entire Porsche lineup. The amount of car you get for the money is staggering.
@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67
@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67 Жыл бұрын
F-Pace is better than all of them!
@paulbugoni2846
@paulbugoni2846 Жыл бұрын
Did you check out the Stelvio? Haven’t driven the Macan recently but the Stelvio drives nicer than my X3 with far better steering.
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 Жыл бұрын
@@paulbugoni2846 Yeah, I've heard that too. As a BMW fan, the older-gen BMWs had it in them to truly stand out as the Ultimate Driving Machines. Shame they aren't like they used to be in driving feel and handling. Like, don't get me wrong, I think the X3 M40i is a wonderful all-rounder. Just wish the steering had more feel and communication coming through the palms, while not tiring the driver. It seems BMW has understood that "sporty" means hard suspension and heavy steering alone. The old models just held up brilliantly in terms of ride-handling balance.
@noonehere1793
@noonehere1793 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like my Audi SQ8…..9/10ths of an RSQ8 or its Italian cousin but a far better value and lets face it you rarely drive at 7/10ths……let alone all out.
@paulbugoni2846
@paulbugoni2846 Жыл бұрын
@@rahulmandala4930 agree, loved my E90.
@GeorgeRuiz1
@GeorgeRuiz1 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Macan T over the S and have not regretted it one bit. As a daily driver in Los Angeles and for the occasional road trip, it's perfect. The savings went into my IRA and that makes me smile every time I drive my Macan T. When I'm ready for something sportier, I'll get a 911.
@gloriaho5048
@gloriaho5048 Жыл бұрын
@GeorgeRuiz1 I am in the Los Angeles area as well, may I ask which dealer you got your Mecan T and if you was able to get a discount? I have looked at X1, Q5, even the Cayenne but coming back to the T. The other vehicles interior with the high tech screens and shifters are turn off for me. If you have time I like to chad about options and your experiences. Thanks! Oliver
@SalomOon01
@SalomOon01 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got one on order and it will be my first Porsche, coming from a GLC (diesel). The test drive I did was eye opening on what a proper driver focused SUV can do on the road, power is not everything (especially whith speed limitations) but this handles beautifully and has just about everything you can possibly want on an open road. A simple tune could make it go to the 300hp you talked about, but not sure it is needed! It’s a lot of fun for a SUV and as you said, it depends on your expectations. Mine were blown away and I can’t wait for it to arrive 🤩
@MikoTheTomCat
@MikoTheTomCat Жыл бұрын
You are 💯 spot on.
@SalomOon01
@SalomOon01 7 ай бұрын
Update: took delivery of the car two weeks ago, and everything I said was confirmed with the few hundred miles I put on the clock. What a brilliant car! I can’t believe how different and more engaging it is to drive, and it is so much fun! All I want to do now is go with it anywhere and enjoy the splendid experience it is. I opted for the sport exhaust as well, which makes it that little bit more enjoyable, compared to the standard one I tested. Definitely a must imo.
@anishattwal8808
@anishattwal8808 2 ай бұрын
@@SalomOon01 I’m looking to buy a Macan T and was wondering what your review is on the car given that you’ve owned it for a few more months. Thanks.
@Marcus-kw2ed
@Marcus-kw2ed Жыл бұрын
Ive driven my Macan T a little over 2500 miles and I can say I'm pleasantly surprised. Mine does have some nice equipment but far from "fully loaded". That means I have Air-suspension (must have IMO), Panoramic roof (Not a must have for me), PDLS Plus (Don't know how good the standard lights are but mine are among the best Ive experienced), 360 surround view (save the money and go for just the rear-view camera) and adaptive cruise control (I never use CC so don't know if its any good). I also have the same interior as this one which I think is superb and people who've been riding in the car has complimented the nice fabric in the middle of the seats and the quality of the interior overall. What I don't have is the upgraded sound system, but the standard 150W system. Works fine for me, it sounds way better than any other standard system Ive heard, especially VWs, but would maybe consider upgrading to the Bose. Im really impressed with the car overall, and the 4-cyl ea888 engine works better in this than any other car Ive driven with the same engine IMO (probably thanks to it being mounted lengthways and connected to the excellent PDK). Would recommend the car to anyone who´s in the market for a well-put-together SUV which rides and drives really, really nicely.
@ms8742
@ms8742 Жыл бұрын
I just bought the base Macan for my wife. She loves it and does not drive fast or care about speed so she is happy. I get in it and the first thing I think of is "this needs more power". But hey, she's happy and therefore it saved me money. Also the price delta is different here in the USA. It is $6000 more for an S over a T and 12,000 more! from a base to an S. That is a big difference.
@liverpoolscottish6430
@liverpoolscottish6430 Жыл бұрын
Why purchase a powerful lump of lard that your wife potters around in? Pointless.
@zipzep
@zipzep Жыл бұрын
a stage 1 tune easily solves the power lacking issue
@ms8742
@ms8742 Жыл бұрын
@@liverpoolscottish6430 Yep. Agreed. That is why we didn't get the S.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 Жыл бұрын
Am I right in thinking based on Jay's interior shots, you actually have to put a key in to start it?
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
Yep
@DJLaro
@DJLaro Жыл бұрын
The Macan T is a great car and what we ended up buying after testing the Base, T and S. For me, I absolutely love the deviated stitching interior and the seats. I paid 4k to get deviated stitching on my 911 (in addition to $4k for the upgraded leather interior). For me, whatever SUV you drive will be compromised because of the weight. The T is just fast enough to be fun and the lower weight on the nose vs the S makes it a much more agile car (IMO). The T also feels quite a bit better on spirited drives relative to the base. The base sits higher and you can feel the T is a lot more planted. Consider spec'ing a T and a S to truly compare the price. For me, the S would have cost $10k more than the T after options so the choice was clear. Having a 992 C2S and Macan T, both are very enjoyable cars, for different purposes. I don't regret not opting for the S.
@64mcrusader
@64mcrusader Жыл бұрын
Good insight. We just ordered a T. S would have been $10 k plus more in Australia. Did you get different seats? .....we ordered the 14 way adjusted in black leather.
@DJLaro
@DJLaro Жыл бұрын
@@64mcrusader I kept the original seats. Those are sport seats (not the standard one on the base). The standard Macan T seats are fantastic if you are relatively slim. They are super comfortable, especially with the T interior.
@MikoTheTomCat
@MikoTheTomCat Жыл бұрын
Well said mate. I got the T and no regrets. Far better handling then the S and all these extras you get. Plenty of power for Australian road speed limits. Enjoy 👍
@munzirrafik7753
@munzirrafik7753 8 ай бұрын
thanks for the deep information . many of us doesnt know real different on user experience view . thanks . and What is the dislike about it?
@bjmyman
@bjmyman 4 ай бұрын
@@64mcrusader Same here, we're picking up our Macan T next week. Can't wait!
@alexgreen2747
@alexgreen2747 Жыл бұрын
Your second Porsche history lesson in quick succession! Both fantastically honest and thorough. Top class work.
@WFOSA67
@WFOSA67 Жыл бұрын
Great review😊 My better half just got one and I’m amazed how good it is. We test drove the GTS and it was overkill for her needs. The extra weight is very noticeable particularly when braking. The T sounds like a Golf R with the sports exhaust which was unexpected! Great ride too😉
@TsLeng
@TsLeng Жыл бұрын
Because the engine is the same but less power. Not sure if it's a tuned up gti engine or a massively detuned R engine. But EA888 it is
@smoath
@smoath Жыл бұрын
@@mariemccann5895 are you suggesting his partner doesn't have a mind? That's very insulting to her. Please have more respect for the lady.
@TsLeng
@TsLeng Жыл бұрын
@@mariemccann5895 why are you assuming it's not her own decision determining if a car is too much power or not. Contrary to popular believe, there is such a thing as too much power. #1 because the car can't deliver it properly or handle well enough to use it. #2 more commonly it is because it is redundant for the user who will never use it. I chose a car that has only 280hp but in reality, 95% of the time I am in #2 because I cannot use it safely or want to.
@smoath
@smoath Жыл бұрын
@@TsLeng you removed your last comment 🤣 Nowhere in this guys comment does it say HE made the decision. Have a think about what you're assuming.
@TsLeng
@TsLeng Жыл бұрын
@@smoathdid you mean that Marie person removed their comment? I certainly did not remove anything and was replying to the same person as you.
@Antarius
@Antarius Жыл бұрын
Macan GTS is my daily driver... and boxster gts 4.0 is my nice weather car. You're absolutely right about the Macan being just about the best daily driver you can possibly buy. I think the Macan S is a actually even a better value than either the GTS or the T if optioned correctly such as with the relatively cheap red or beige full leather options which also gives you deviated stiching included. Air suspension is nice to give you softer comfort and sportier sport.
@ricklee3
@ricklee3 Жыл бұрын
I've got the Base Macan with a stage 1 ECU tune/remap which costs around $1500 and it's close to 300HP. So instead of paying $10000 plus for the Macan S which some say is the best value for money, the base with $1500 tune is almost similar speed to a Macan S with a lighter engine for the sportier handling dynamics. You can do this too with the Macan T and you would have the perfect and best value Macan.
@shawnwilson5905
@shawnwilson5905 Жыл бұрын
Did the Porsche dealership do this or an independent third party? 300hp in a base would be amazing!
@ricklee3
@ricklee3 Жыл бұрын
@@shawnwilson5905 Porsche Partner
@hpman911
@hpman911 7 ай бұрын
And in the UK you would loose your Porsche 3 years warranty 🤯
@ricklee3
@ricklee3 7 ай бұрын
Everywhere, but how would they know if there is no physical mods to see? also it only voids the engine if any faults, other faults like sunroof or brakes and suspension etc it would not void but yes it is a risk@@hpman911
@paull3179
@paull3179 7 ай бұрын
tuning results in more wear and tear and engine lights with many codes that occur from time to time. I have 455hp S4 which runs well but gets codes the dealer has trouble fixiing but they try to.
@kuruption1983
@kuruption1983 Жыл бұрын
I bought one and absolutely love it! Specced the heck out of it with almost any nifty useful option and it is a very very nice car. Thank you for the review and awesome choice of music.
@mariochen2470
@mariochen2470 Жыл бұрын
ur point about the charm and even upmarket-ness of some analogue dials is spot on. feels like im rlly driving a machine
@sellojuniorhlalele2411
@sellojuniorhlalele2411 Жыл бұрын
1:25 James u forgot that BMW were making the X5 before Porsche made the Cayenne during that time
@future62
@future62 Жыл бұрын
I did a dance to your "extensive standard equipment" list read. 😂 And I agree with your assessment of daily drivers. I think a lot of enthusiasts buy into the fantasy of cars rather than the reality. Something like a Cayman GT4 RS is pointless on the street.
@emiliospowerballer1441
@emiliospowerballer1441 Жыл бұрын
Most probably yes, which is why I hate automotive journalists who review sports cars and claim 'they are the best', for the either couple of minutes they drove it, or in the 4 6 month ownership they had it while they daily drove a Yaris. Such sports car are typically weekend cars for the rich; not that it's bad, but anything beyond 400 horsepower as a daily becomes a pain in the ass, more than anything else. Porsches are just these cars. They are sports cars meant to be driven fast. he market nowadays is all about luxury and comfort more than anyhing else, and hence why the 911 isn't as demanded as previously, or the Cayman and the Boxster. If Porsche figures out the sweet spot, price included, they will become successful. BMW figured it out all too well.
@user-jf8gd3lv7q
@user-jf8gd3lv7q Жыл бұрын
@@emiliospowerballer1441 Please dude: don't give Porsche your cheap "advices" about "how to having success", you annoying clown! WTF are you talking, dude??? Porsche today is an ultra successful and profitable carmaker since more than two decades and the sales figures of their two door sports cars like 718 and 911 are still very solid in a very difficult worldwide market today. You are measering things with two different point of views. Of course one part of Porsche as we know it today is kind of a SUV manufacturer, who is using its profits for making the best sports cars on the planet. Porsche is doing very well with this kind of strategy, and with their more and more electrified lineup of worldclass electric SUVs and performance machines like Panamera and Taycan, Porsche will even have a more brighter future. "Porsches are just these cars"... What??? Oh man, as if Porsche would be the only carmaker which is producing 400+ hp sports cars. You are telling absolute crap, dude! Porsches are propably the only luxury sports cars on this planet, which still can be used as daily drivers, which you can't say about cars from some wannabe "legend" sports carmakers like McLaren, Lamborghini, or even Ferrari. You are telling fucking crap dude!
@mattBLACKpunk
@mattBLACKpunk Жыл бұрын
It's a good thing then that compact suvs aren't pointless on the street vs their estate/hatchback brethren. For most things, in fact, they are strictly worse thanks to weight, air resistance and higher center of gravity. the macan actually retaining a bit of off road capability means it shares the same redeeming qualities as a Cayman gt4 - pointless on the street, but with the potential to do something else better
@ingrampowell9111
@ingrampowell9111 Жыл бұрын
re "a Cayman GT4 RS is pointless on the street": A Cayman GT4 is NOT. @Emilios, Porsche is more successful than ever (revenue 2011 = 10.9b, 2021 = 30.3b), so much so that they bought VW Group, which makes less sporting cars for appropriate buyers. The day that Porsche makes luxury cars will be the death of the brand. (And 21st century BMWs are garbage. Ask any mechanic who repairs older cars).
@emiliospowerballer1441
@emiliospowerballer1441 Жыл бұрын
@@ingrampowell9111 Hate to break it down for you. Porsche does not VW.
@eSysmanSuperYachts
@eSysmanSuperYachts Жыл бұрын
First Macan I drove on a test drive was the diesel and I was amazed at how good it was. Even the engine delivered a surprising amount of power. I now have a 2017 GTS (3.0L) and I love it. They drive brilliantly and are almost sports cars in their drive and handling. Fast, sound great handle well for what they are, definitely feels a Porsche, and comfortable on long trips (air suspension a must).
@theswissdriver
@theswissdriver 4 ай бұрын
great review james! Spot on. I have this exact dilema. I'm changing my 6yo Macan 4 cylinder now, but the reality is that when you spec an S with the necessary extras (wheels, sport seats, exhaust, sunroof, etc...) its not 1k more but rather 8-10k more than the T (at least in switzerland). That coupled to the crazy CO2 taxes here, I think the T is probably the one for me!
@stephenlane9168
@stephenlane9168 Жыл бұрын
Great video. james. Very informative and entertaining. Enjoyed this. A great car 👌👍
@guntz-nga
@guntz-nga Жыл бұрын
We've got the 2022 Macan GTS, and everyone in the family loves it. It wasn't our first Porsche, so when we test drove the 2.0 Macan, it felt slightly underpowered, so we went the V6 way and got the GTS, as a well-optioned S would be the same price as a GTS. Fantastic car, and at least in Brazil, you can sell them used for 30% more than you've paid. We've already taken it to dirt roads, and it was just fine. Even did donuts in the rain! You can daily it but also have fun with it, so it's perfect for us.
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 Жыл бұрын
That fuel economy isn't really any different to what I get out of my XKR.
@toms_garage
@toms_garage Жыл бұрын
Same with my v8 lexus!
@anthonyfarnan5935
@anthonyfarnan5935 Жыл бұрын
So buy the diesel then…
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc Жыл бұрын
So, just as expected then?
@eze8970
@eze8970 Жыл бұрын
Thanks J, another good, honest review! 🙏🙏
@iainini
@iainini Жыл бұрын
Just done 7000 miles in one of these and absolutely love it! You're right about the four-pot motor - 300bhp and a fruitier exhaust as standard would have helped to distance it from the base 2.0 - but the T's dynamics are superb and its unique chassis/torque-split set up really benefits from the weight saving over the front wheels. (This is one of the lightest cars in its class, which - unlike the V6 models - means I can tow Boxster/Cayman sized cars on a lightweight alloy trailer for work without getting into tachograph territory.) Taken in isolation the price does look a bit steep compared to the S, but factor in the T's standard spec and likely depreciation (i.e. low lease payments) and this might be the cheapest premium SUV ownership prospect built by Porsche or any of its rivals. I share your contempt of coal-hole black interiors, James, so I ditched the part-cloth upholstery and opted for the Black/Bordeaux Red two-tone leather interior. Same superb electric GTS seats, looks fantastic, cost just £176!
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about the lack of weight with the 4 cylinder, that’s interesting. I think you’ve probably got the best spec, I think 260hp is enough power to have fun and keeping your license in the UK. Also, I’m curious about whether you have the air suspension fitted as I’m wondering whether that could soften the ride even more compared to the adaptive coil overs. I often drive through towns which is full of bumps
@iainini
@iainini Жыл бұрын
@@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj Spec of our Macan T is close to standard (+ bargain leather upgrade, memory seats, tow-bar and and reverse camera) so it's on standard springs with PASM which is soft enough to smooth out the worst urban potholes and speed humps in comfort mode. Only beefs with Macan T are minor electrical gremlins, which never occur in presence of supplying dealer (front parking sensors regularly detect phantom obstacles when driving at low speed and rear seat belt warning occasionally chimes when seats are unoccupied) and the hopeless reverse camera. Only spec the reverse camera if you need it to help with trailer coupling or don't mind wiping it clean every time you plan to travel backwards. It's mounted close to road level, doesn't retract when not in use and is always obscured by water/dirt.
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj
@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj Жыл бұрын
@@iainini oh fair enough. I thought coilovers on the macan we’re gonna be firm but that’s nice to know for UK roads. I didn’t know about the electrical issues tbh. The Range Rover velar/ evoque get shredded for pieces for electric issues but I guess it’s just not them. Thanks
@nateisright
@nateisright Жыл бұрын
Excellent steering, handling and PDK do it for me. Two tons have never felt so light.
@AH-fg8dk
@AH-fg8dk Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it was during one of the 2021 semi lockdowns, but I had a high spec demo base model for about 2.5 weeks as a courtesy car. I am definitely not a SUV fan and can rarely see the point over a decent hatchback (especially when I have been in daily's owned by friends and family). But as a guilty secret, I really liked the Macan 🙂
@juan-HiFi
@juan-HiFi Жыл бұрын
I had a macan s 2016 (that I recently changed for another 25:32 Porsche) and was really beautiful machine to drive. I like to watch your videos. Thank you for your reviews. Greetings from California. 🙏
@rpowell138
@rpowell138 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had multiple Macan loaners while my cars have been in for service. I’ve enjoyed all of them. If you spec a base pretty base then it’s fine. But totally agree on T vs S. The T doesn’t make much sense. I’ve also had Cayenne and Taycan loaners. I never got out of those saying I’d like to own one. Unlike the Macan. Great vehicle. Surprisingly so.
@simonmason7420
@simonmason7420 Жыл бұрын
I think people miss the point of the T….it does what the gts does without the power. It can be driven hard and loves the corners and back roads. It’s a proper driving car of the suv world, it doesn’t have the power, so what! It’s well damped and the suspension is excellent. The whole argument of T vs. S is silly too. £500 more gets you as S, but the S is then short of 7k of options. No GTS suspension but has a v6 so you can go quicker in a straight line lol. It also pains me to see people delete all the T parts like the unique seats and decals and wheels. A standard T in the U.K. is about 12k over list and could rise further with this EV nonsense and macan electric, when people will want to stay ICE. My other car is a 718 gt4, like a geek they match in crayon 😂
@gbarton800
@gbarton800 5 ай бұрын
The T is for me with Its distinctive looks, its driver focus, and its good performance. It’s a slippery slope with Porsche and after driving the Base, T, S, and GTS, the T was the best fit for me as our family vehicle. It’s quick enough around town and I love the way it felt from behind the wheel. However, I do agree that tuning it to the 315 HP Golf R power level would have been just right to slot it comfortably between the Base and the S, even if that meant a slight bump in price.
@grahamjones9888
@grahamjones9888 Жыл бұрын
You should be glad there is no panoramic roof - my Macan GTS panoramic roof pissed in water. Back to the dealer 3 times and they couldn't fix the issue. Car returned.
@simon8089
@simon8089 Жыл бұрын
The spec sheet readout😂🙌🏼 edit: I absolutely love that gold 911, black interior and all. Different strokes and all that…..😅
@sja9836
@sja9836 2 ай бұрын
I had a Diesel S Macan on steel springs when it first came out and kept it for 90,000 miles it was very good everywhere but became a little bit long in the tooth. MPG was unto 44mpg and around town 23/25mpg. I then bought an absolutely fully loaded Macan Turbo (2.9L petrol) from Porsche Centre Swindon as my everyday car which around town returns 15-17mpg but on a run at a true 70mph gives me 29-35mpg which is frankly astonishing. I always use the super unleaded fuel usually from Sainsbury's but lately fill up with BP Ultimate which has been giving me the highest MPG figures. (is this a well known phenomenon ?) James the beginning of this episode had me in stitches. You're a brilliant presenter and very funny with it. Thanks for this review. Brilliant.
@theusefulchannel
@theusefulchannel 2 ай бұрын
I sometimes wonder if reviewers are actually using 99 octane because the difference in mpg is noticeable.
@steventhoseby
@steventhoseby Жыл бұрын
Thanks James, I finally get to use the word stoichiometric in a post! With this being a lowly 2.0L, Porsche probably mapped the engine in a way that makes a lot of it's torque low down and thus trying to mask the cars heft and lack of capacity. The problem with this is that small boosted engines tend to suffer from low speed/ medium to high load knock (predetonation). Thus stoichiometric A/F mixture isn't run and the car drinks fuel! Actually looked at one of these in 2015, 2.0t (237ps back then) had a 12 month waiting list. Macan V6 close to 3 years! Bought a F15 X5 40d instead!
@ReviewedByAndy
@ReviewedByAndy Жыл бұрын
As a golf r driver, I feel like this logical upgrade for us R enthusiasts
@bwdrives
@bwdrives Жыл бұрын
Not really though? It’s less powerful and heavier
@jeremybaker5021
@jeremybaker5021 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2023 macan s. A total no brainer vs the T for all the reasons you have stated in the video. For an extra grand I got a slightly de-tuned macan gts with that amazing 2.9l v6 under the bonnet. It really shifts and as a former 911 owner I was pretty amazed at what I was able to do with one when I tracked a Macan S at the Porsche Experience Centre at Silverstone prior to delivery. If you pay a bit more you also get a very nice interior which feels miles plusher than what BMW and Other rivals offer. After a wait of almost a year for the car I can say it was worth the wait!
@dt8484
@dt8484 8 ай бұрын
High quality review! Cheers
@stuarthunter7559
@stuarthunter7559 Жыл бұрын
Had a go in one last year. Love the interior. Probably the best comfort I have had in a car. I'm a big bloke and it felt like a good pair of shoes
@TomScelfo
@TomScelfo 6 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable review! As the owner of a 2023 Macan S, I think your descriptions throughout your review are spot on. For anyone who enjoys driving their car using a "sporty touch," you really need to move up to the 6-cylinder, twin turbo models. However, the comfort and handling of all the Macans are excellent, especially if you get one with air suspension.
@andrewmurphy9293
@andrewmurphy9293 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with his rant against boring interiors. I'm currently looking at a used McLaren, either a 12C or 650, and they all have a plain black interior. This is a supercar, it's meant to be over the top and extrovert, it has doors that open upwards, most of them have bold colours like Volcano Red or Mantis Green, it's meant to exude surprise and delight. And yet every single 12C or 650S currently on the used market, with only one exception, has a black interior.
@saddoncarrs6963
@saddoncarrs6963 Жыл бұрын
Have to agree - trying to find any car without a black interior or that chavvy privacy glass, is becoming increasingly difficult.
@Toutvids
@Toutvids 4 ай бұрын
This is why I subscribe to this channel and not all the huge car channels. You talk about cars from a daily driver perspective. Not every 'sporty' car is to be driven like you are at the race track. You talk about real world driving and in traffic.
@kb9072
@kb9072 Жыл бұрын
I'm one of those people that would only have a black interior. Black always looks subtle and cool. Ages far better than a light interior.
@PoloDaBear
@PoloDaBear Жыл бұрын
can't win with interior colours, black is boring, brown is hideous, beige and white looks amazing but get dirty
@nickmoulton446
@nickmoulton446 Жыл бұрын
I have just sold my 2019 Macan S after 50,000 miles as my daily driver. It has been great, so much so that I am collecting a new Macan S next week. It will have light grey leather interior and Panoramic roof. I have driven the 4 cylinder versions too. They turn & dance nicely, but need more poke. They are not such good value as an S (value using Porsche metrics of course). I have shoved my non Sport Chrono Macan along the roads James was driving with indecent enthusiasm and it is brilliant at that kind of driving. I’m glad he liked it, I do too.
@OverdriveTech
@OverdriveTech Жыл бұрын
Got to test drive one earlier this week and I agree. Phenomenal car, but I feel like I'd go for the S instead of the T.
@kristy77a
@kristy77a Жыл бұрын
In 2014 I detested the then-new Macan as a niche cash grab. Nearly a decade later, I'm smitten and aspire to own an electric version (I probably won’t be able to afford it). Anyway, well done, including the nice blue/green plaid shirt!
@MarJay1980
@MarJay1980 Жыл бұрын
I have a black 911 with a black interior, that's what I wanted. I did not buy it for resale value, I bought it because it was closest to the spec I wanted.
@elrapido3431
@elrapido3431 Жыл бұрын
Selling my GTS and bought a Macan Base for my partner, it's perfect for the daily commute and airport run 👍 I on the other hand have a Spyder coming 😊
@allseeing357
@allseeing357 Жыл бұрын
These are brilliant cars. A mate has a very high spec 2016 S Diesel which he's had from nearly new, been in it plenty and have driven it and honestly I'm not sure there is much out there that makes for such a good daily driver. It drives like a sports car, far more so than you'd expect given its Q5 roots (Porsche worked wonders on the chassis), is quick, the PDK gearbox is other worldly in terms of speed of change and choice of gear and feels special in a way a Q5 could only dream of, even at 7 years old. I'd say literally the only thing that lets it down for me is rear space as it's not as good as you'd think it would be. Shame the 6 cyl diesels disappeared as I think these suit these far better than the 4 cyl petrols
@andytaylor2321
@andytaylor2321 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Macan T Dec 22 My wife loves to cruise around town and suits her lifestyle perfectly. No regrets. If it were for myself I might of upped the ante to the S model. We compared the ride to a Stelvio and to be honest the Porsche felt more refined and handled better and just as important , looks better too imo.
@HarryJamesBooks
@HarryJamesBooks Жыл бұрын
"My wife loves to cruise around town and suits her lifestyle perfectly." 🤡
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek Жыл бұрын
Splendid. A California Friend Owns One and Raves About 30:37 Its Quality a Performance!!!!
@mheeler
@mheeler Жыл бұрын
The value proposition is pretty market dependant. In Australia, the T is only 3% greater than a Base. The S is another 20% more. Our cars are also somewhat differently specified with everything from the larger fuel tank to comfort access standard already.
@stuchly1
@stuchly1 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Brilliant delivery of the list of 'extensive standard equipment.'
@DontPanicDear
@DontPanicDear Жыл бұрын
Good stuff JM 👍🏻 We had two of these, both with those amazing seats. An SD and a Turbo. Both equally good btw.
@Nicool333
@Nicool333 Жыл бұрын
Did you get the 14 way or the 18 way seats?
@DontPanicDear
@DontPanicDear Жыл бұрын
@@Nicool333 Er I can’t 100% remember as I’ve had a few cars since! They were both the same sport seat option though.
@jackleyton5504
@jackleyton5504 Ай бұрын
I've got the limited edition black Boxster S with 320 horses for play time and I'm picking up the Macan GTS. I test drove the base model and it was very nice but I've been spoiled with my Boxster S so I need the speed of the GTS. LOVED YOUR REVIEW
@philiphawkins4684
@philiphawkins4684 Жыл бұрын
I like black interiors, the gold 911 pictures with plain black interior is what I would order.
@inamhassan2694
@inamhassan2694 Жыл бұрын
There's a reason nearly all porsche owners go for a 'dark' interior James. Well there's a couple, one of which is when it comes to the selling the car, I believe it holds it value better in porsches, when it's a black/dark interior.
@franki68
@franki68 Жыл бұрын
Recently bought a heavily specced ‘s’ to use as a daily . I tested all its competitors and it is head and shoulders above them. Fuel economy is woeful though averaging 25mpg and never managed more than 30mpg.
@bwdrives
@bwdrives Жыл бұрын
That’s as good as you can expect from a turbo V6 in a 2 ton car
@hexgraphica
@hexgraphica Жыл бұрын
I can't help but think of an AMC Pacer every time I see one from the rear
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын
I love motoring, but have barely driven anthing the past decade. Drove the original Renault Espace, my dad's car when I got my license. I liked sitting up high, but not that SUVs are the norm, does that still have the same added value over a hatchback, sedan or wagon? Loved the miiiiildly sporty Mazda 323F I drove to the junkyard prematurely (oh, it wanted oil?). OK you sit up higher, but what does a Macan do for me otherwise, over say an entry level Panamera, Jaguar XF Sportbreak (I love that for looks and interior), Mercedes E, etc? Maybe a very basic question, but is an "SUV" worth it, if it's really a lifted coupé? GLS, that I can see. A theoretical R-Class, on a modern chassis and drivetrain, oh yeah baby! But a lifted Golf with a Porsche chassis and interior?
@rsssmeaton4260
@rsssmeaton4260 Жыл бұрын
I own a MY2023 Macan GTS and as someone who spent far too much time on the Porsche configurator I thought I would add my opinion. The S does make a good value proposition compared with the GTS depending on the spec you choose… the difference in cost between the S and GTS was around £1500 when I applied my spec to each car. Add to that the fact that the all Porsche GTS products seem to hold onto their initial value better than the S models I couldn’t not buy the GTS. Take a look at 4 year old, low mileage T’s, S’s and GTS’s… the T and the S are about the same value and the GTS is 10-15k more expensive so it may be better to pay more upfront to lose less in the end 🤔 ask me again in 4 years 😂
@JVan-ic6ic
@JVan-ic6ic Жыл бұрын
2:48 😂😂😂 absolutely killed me
@Scorpio1075
@Scorpio1075 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the dialog about Porsche buyers optioning all Black interiors!
@tedjohnson64
@tedjohnson64 Жыл бұрын
Nice Porsche history/finance lesson!
@BarryMakariou
@BarryMakariou Жыл бұрын
Most Decent Macan Ts are around £72/75k a mk3 gts can be had for £10k more running costs will be higher but prob worth it! I recently sold my gen 1 Macan GTS I’ve regretted every day since….
@davepuma1537
@davepuma1537 Жыл бұрын
I presently have a 718 Cayman T so am familiar with what you get as part of the spec. At first I thought it wouldn't make any sense on the Macan but it does. It's the usual formula, take the base model and add the driving toys and some agate grey trim, wheels etc. I love the cloth interior in my Cayman T so if going for the Macan T, I would spec it and am not bothered with having cow skin all over the doors or dash. The T does seem to be decent value when you look at what the S charges for similar options. If you want full leather in the T, it's far cheaper than full leather in the S. Same goes for wheels. The T wheels look nice but I'd rather they be 21, even though that goes against the grain of what an SUV is all about i.e. comfort. If I was spec'ing the T, I'd keep it standard and maybe add metallic paint and the painted trim on the exterior to get rid of the black plastic as it clashes with the grey. For a daily driver, the Macan T ticks all the boxes, sure it could do with some more power but I'm sure after the car is 3years old, a remap would be achievable.
@johnhamill8687
@johnhamill8687 7 ай бұрын
I bought a Macan Turbo back in 2018, I had to have the fire breather, and its quick, but a little thirsty on petrol. I've driven base models and I think they're quite good - the handling/ride is almost a little better - its very tossable as its lighter and feels a bit more nimble. The GTI 4 pot turbo motor is good, and tuned for the Macan. Its a little sluggish off the line, to address that leave it in Sport mode and it drives very well.
@scottcowan6798
@scottcowan6798 Жыл бұрын
The Macan is a brilliantly handling SUV (I’ve owned two of them) It’s not without its flaws.. poor room for rear passengers for example, but it’s still good enough. Arguably a Golf is more practical. The Cayenne is also excellent (I’ve had three of them) but the minute you step back into a Macan, you feel the difference in agility.. bearing in mind that a Cayenne makes an X5 feel like a bus.. the Cayenne itself is still an excellent handling SUV, which highlights just how good the Macan actually is. Great review!
@munzirrafik7753
@munzirrafik7753 8 ай бұрын
wow u make a clear differences in between those car of choice many of us had thinking which is the best . Now we know .. thanks
@same8825
@same8825 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2022 Macan and I have to admit, coming from a 2010 F150, its an absolute dream and the most fun I've ever had driving a car. I know there is faster, I know there is sportier, but it's my car and I'm in absolute love. Would I like a GTS? Sure!! I'll get one later :)
@kyleholloway3470
@kyleholloway3470 Жыл бұрын
Saw a Macan T on the M27 this afternoon. It was in this exact colour too.
@allanmoger1838
@allanmoger1838 Жыл бұрын
I have an iPhone and a $60 wireless adapter. I love my Macan Turbo. My interior is white and brown too, which looks better than it sounds. I also have all those features the T doesn’t. Honestly, I’ve owned this car for nearly five years now and it’ll end up being 8 - 10, if I ever sell it. It’s that good. Let us not talk about the fact it could have been Lemoned for the exhaust, it had a new transfer case, and door cards, and oil leaks. Warranty is good.
@igormac88
@igormac88 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant writing!
@skippynj1979
@skippynj1979 4 ай бұрын
Usa here... Bought a 23 cpo.. saved about 14k. For my needs it's perfect.. especially with the cpo warranty
@jak493
@jak493 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, really good review and very informative. There is one question that no one seems to answer- what’s the difference between the T and GTS - both are considered the more driver focused version so they are the same (but one has more power). It seems they are competing against each other to me
@nizm0man
@nizm0man Жыл бұрын
T = 4 cylinder, GTS = V6
@jak493
@jak493 Жыл бұрын
@@nizm0man yep, I get that, it’s more power but they both call themselves ‘driver focused’ I sort of think one should be called GT and the other GTS for same thing but more powerful?
@iAm_Ahnubis
@iAm_Ahnubis 11 ай бұрын
Reading some of the comments make me feel a little better about my Macan T. For me I feel it is too slow. I should have opted for the S when I leased, now I am stuck with it. It is better than my GLC 300 but just cannot touch my X6 when I had it. Sedans around me would always be shocked at how fast that big girl was. Had a fun lil highway run with 2 Infiniti cars. a 4-door Sedan and a 2-door coupe which was older. The 2-door coupe smoked me in the T, the 4-door couldn't catch me but it was hanging close. I'm in the US by the way. I love how the engine sounds but wish I had little more horses. It's shame you can't tune a leased car. My Macan off the lot came with panoramic roof, 14-way seats, 21" RS Spyder wheels and some other stuff. One thing I HATE is the quality of the rear cameras compared to my GLC 300. it feels downright dangerous because things appear closer than they really are. Drives me nuts! I think the Macan T in this review is behind possibly because it's not the US model. I have wireless Android and Apple Play which I LOVE because my 2020 GLC 300 is annoyingly wired.
@richardh3587
@richardh3587 Жыл бұрын
So true about the lack of basic standard features. I can Kind of give them a pass on that stuff when it comes to their sports cars but on a compact SUV based on a q5? Nah…
@sunnohh
@sunnohh Жыл бұрын
I hate suvs but love my 2.0 macan - it is in the body shop and they gave me a q5 and I was afraid it would feel the same, happy to say they don’t drive anywhere similarly and I cannot wait to have the porsche back
@ednash3571
@ednash3571 Жыл бұрын
Black and grey interiors make perfect sense. You don't want excessive drama and distraction in the cabin. You want the perfect environment in which to relax for long cruises, or focus on spirited drives. If there's splurges of colour all over the place on the interior it's going to grow tiresome very quickly.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars Жыл бұрын
I disagree - I *get* black interiors, and if I was a parent I'd want nothing else - but to have exclusively black in cars, especially when combined with privacy glass, is just dull
@Garyhlin
@Garyhlin Жыл бұрын
Bought my wife a 2017 Macan S diesel. Great looks silver paint and black wheels. Only complaint is low speed diesel jitters and vibrations, and maintenance cost... Bought myself a 2016 Lexus NX200t and I prefer lexus more as a daily family car. I do miss my porsche boxster s 987.2 pdk as daily though...
@4pevans
@4pevans Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@shawnwilson5905
@shawnwilson5905 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Do you think PASM is necessary for a Porsche Macan Base used as a daily driver? Can one really notice a significant difference in the driving experience?
@domenicfanelli536
@domenicfanelli536 11 ай бұрын
PASM is always a must have option if you want it to handle at it’s best….
@MikoTheTomCat
@MikoTheTomCat Жыл бұрын
Before I purchased the Macan T I test drove both the Macan T and Macan S.. the T had far superior handling. Plus all the extras and looks made it a more appealing package being in Australia where the speed limit is 100kph on the fwy. Unless you live in Germany with autobahn’s the V6 is over kill here since the T model is still faster then a Golf GTi. Also an S model with similar specs was 26k more, so over budget for me. No regrets at all with the Macan T. It’s an awesome package all round this vehicle 👍
@Bollywoodhollywood2023
@Bollywoodhollywood2023 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree Michael 😊I picked up T one month ago and it’s absolutely brilliant
@MikoTheTomCat
@MikoTheTomCat Жыл бұрын
@@Bollywoodhollywood2023 nice one 👍 enjoy and drive it in good health.
@thetezz0001
@thetezz0001 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video bro 😅
@allosaurusfragilis7782
@allosaurusfragilis7782 Жыл бұрын
Just had an idea , thinking about all these hard riding cars with stiff suspension.....how about suspension seats? Then you could have the stiff ride that seems to be necessary and not break your back. They use them in boats sometimes. I'm sure car makers could come up with something. I'd be surprised if nobody had thought of it. Adjustable seat damping .....has if ever been tried?
@captainflipflop8805
@captainflipflop8805 Жыл бұрын
Be careful if you buy a Macan. I bought an S model, 4 years old from a main dealer, just got to 6 years old and requiring a service. When I bought it I asked what the next service would cost and I was told about £500. I have been quoted nearly £1800! From Porsche Cardiff & Bristol! Even from an independent the quote was £1500 ish. Guildford dealer I bought it from quoted £1900. Needs plugs, all fluids, gearbox service etc. That’s an obscene amount of money for a service on a car, I’d have understood the cost if it was a 911 GT3 or something. Great car though.
@bwdrives
@bwdrives Жыл бұрын
What’s the breakdown of that quote? Just oil change + oil filter + air filter + spark plugs + PDK clutch oil I’m assuming if it’s at 6 years It’s an obscene amount of money for relatively small amount of work done on the car
@D992
@D992 Жыл бұрын
Pay for what you get and the servicing is part of that. Appreciate its high but hey! What cars they buying for us! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@captainflipflop8805
@captainflipflop8805 Жыл бұрын
@@bwdrives Minor Maintenance - Every 60K Miles / 90K Kms or every 6 Years Variant Intermediate Maintenance M.Y 2014 > (Main Work) 1 x TOPUP/BAG 1 x SEALING RING 1 x WINDOW CLEANER OUTER 1 x SEALING RING OIL FILTER 8 x ENGINE OIL 1 x Oil filter insert 1 x Odour and allergen filter 6 x Spark plug 1 x O-ring 1 x seal ring 1 x filter element 1 x sealing plug 1 x sealing plug 6.5 x TRANSMISSION OIL 2 x AIR CLEANER CARTRIDGE Quantity Air Con Service (MY 2016 > R1234yF) Drain tube check Total £1,798.69
@billyboy3053
@billyboy3053 Жыл бұрын
Had a similar one as a courtesy car for a week, was very well spect and good looking but hated driving it due to the lack of power and cramped seats, made me appreciate my Cayenne even more 😂
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki Жыл бұрын
As I understand it, the electric Macan will share a platform with the VW ID.7 (Passat, but longer), Audi A6 EV, and I guess Skoda Suberb. The i7 gets hyped by the reviewers that were flown in to sample it, but all I see is a meh sedan that is longer than its cargo space justifies, with no frunk where the same size Lucid Air and original Tesla Model S got huge ones. With more power.
@AntoniusTyas
@AntoniusTyas Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Whilst the rest of the world said Macan as Ma-cahn (with hard C like 'can't'), us in Indonesia (where the word 'macan' originated from, meaning 'tiger') said it as Ma-chan (with sharp C like 'chat'). I'm still not used to spell Indonesian word (my mother language) with English twang. But at this point we are touching the 'IT'S POR-SCHE NOT PORCH' territory so I am not going to judge anyone saying Ma-cahn. I'll be a good petrolhead and be inclusive. Also, not a fan of Macan 2.0, as good as it is maybe it still feels like jumped-up Golf (thanks to that engine). However, I'd give my approval for the quality. It is rock-solid with great ergonomics. Still, would rather a Macan GTS... Also-also, I am angry at that Gold Explosion ChromaFlair 992 GT3T interior spec. Why not some gold stitching and yellow seat centre, damnit. You already spent GBP90k on the bloody paint, might as well pay GBP2000 for some nice seat centre.
@ahemgee9542
@ahemgee9542 Жыл бұрын
The main problem with these is they are too small inside for the money . 3 series / Class Estate size interior for alot of more £. A Used Cayenne or other full sized Euro SUV would make more sense.
@nigel.w
@nigel.w Жыл бұрын
No matter how much this is objectively a good car, I don't think four cylinders equates with premium or luxury, or even sporty in such a heavy car. If you want a Porsche and can't stretch a penny more, fine. Otherwise, it just has to be the S for me. Sixes being my personal engine of choice, except for V12s. For many others, it will be V8s that they equate with premium, luxury or sporty. I know AMG has moved to 4-cyl hybrids, but I'm even less interested in them, no matter how powerful the powertrain. Personally, I'd rather go fully electric. As always, YMMV. Nonetheless, IMO this was a particularly good review.
@theanthonyv
@theanthonyv 5 ай бұрын
Porsche GT cars are, in fact, very daily-able. I’ve spent the past 3+ years driving a GT4 and GT4 RS as my only cars, putting almost 50k miles on them in succession. And both had the carbon bucket seats. Totally doable. I rarely felt compromised, and in the few cases where I did, I would just rent a SUV for the day.
@Darth_Tyranus_
@Darth_Tyranus_ Жыл бұрын
Interested in your view of the X3 M40i? My family is growing so I’m in the market for a quick suv, but the Macan S is fairly small and becomes silly money if you get basic options.
@glennhavinoviski8128
@glennhavinoviski8128 Жыл бұрын
Funny, because our Macan (2020) has wireless CarPlay. Maybe an option? Because we have the premium package on the base model. Also we have a pre-pandemic electric steering column, which the Macan loaner I had did not have, and which you can't even get on a new 911 these days.
@janequinn1294
@janequinn1294 10 ай бұрын
I’m looking to order a mecan ..I( currently have a mini ) only drive 8k miles a year but will be making more road trips on the motorway. So confused between the base model and the T as both have the same engine. Would spec up both cars, dealership pushing the T but the miles I do is it really worth the 5k extra, I feel not. I’ve watch soooo many comparison videos between the two models but no further forward - help need please !
@jamess200
@jamess200 Жыл бұрын
Bought my missus one of these last year , she loves it, has literally no idea about bhp , weight over the axle, 0-60 times . The things she cares about are present and she loves it. I do accept she probably is the least typical Porsche owner however . Is it underpowered ? Probably , but is it much greater than the sum of it’s parts ? Definitely .
@Sirmancelot91
@Sirmancelot91 Жыл бұрын
The Macan T has a base price of € 124.200 here across the North Sea in the Netherlands. Same car in Germany? : € 74.893. Our government has made it so expensive to buy a car with a little bit more power and an engine bigger than 1.0L. This is also the reason why you don't really see that much performance cars here.
@betterbeavailable
@betterbeavailable Жыл бұрын
Same thing here in Finland. That's why you see only Ceeds and Corollas on the road 😂.
@peterlattimore6013
@peterlattimore6013 Жыл бұрын
@@betterbeavailable sorry to hear that... In NZ, we are only just starting to receive Government over reach regarding taxes on cars. Australia has a luxury car tax onto of Stamp duty, So a tax on a tax. Thanks for realising, I'm fortunate to be living in Paradise. 98 octane-93 RON ??? Is currently $2.44c-$2.75c NZ Paso's a litter.
@murrieteacher
@murrieteacher Жыл бұрын
@@peterlattimore6013 I agree with you on the tax on a tax in Oz. But I can look at that tax and say at least there is one tax that hasn't changed for the well off. Every other tax reduction is for the well off. Peter just enjoy your far more interesting roads.
@peterlattimore6013
@peterlattimore6013 Жыл бұрын
@@murrieteacher I had to leave Oz for Political reasons (I couldn't lower my standards and become a citizen :-) The thought of paying CGT on 50% profit from investing, wasn't my idea of fair tax law.
@murrieteacher
@murrieteacher Жыл бұрын
@@peterlattimore6013 I know what you’re saying. I have investments that I can’t afford to sell because of CGT. Unfortunately I don’t have the opportunity to leave. Taking all my family to NZ would be a population explosion.
@Virre3990
@Virre3990 Жыл бұрын
Have the most recent Macan GTS. Got to borrow a Macan T during a service and it is noticeably lighter in the front and more responsive, but the engine really is dull in comparison. The engine in the GTS makes it more of an occasion, it instill a will to push on, to rev. It simply sounds so much more exciting.
@antonyoantonyo7005
@antonyoantonyo7005 9 ай бұрын
Black interior is beautiful !
@oscarzt1652
@oscarzt1652 Жыл бұрын
5:04 dont forget the Cayenne GTS which is exactly what you've just described
@cpg8000
@cpg8000 Жыл бұрын
The drivetrain on the Macan is so much fun. It’s also so expensive to repair, and so flawed right from the factory. Shame the high failure rate of the Audi PDK unit.
@SenszR
@SenszR Жыл бұрын
7:51 gasped at the price and the colour 🤯
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