2,600 YEAR OLD Ink Medium - This is SO COOL!!

[@dreadreamer5192]

Fun fact: The grinding of the ink does play some purpose in the creative process. Master calligraphers will often sit and play their instrument to become inspired with an idea for their poem, then as they are grinding the ink, they compose the words for the poem they are about to write. Basically, the ink grinding itself can be part of the creative process.

[@wordsinahandle]

What would happen if you didn't use water? Would powder come out or not much would happened or cause some damage?

[@dreadreamer5192]

@@wordsinahandle if you were to just grate it against the stone without water? I’m not sure exactly, you’d probably get some pigment out- think like chalk- but nothing usable. It is probably a bad idea, but I’ve never even thought to try it honestly.

[@lynnthomas8457]

@@dreadreamer5192 I tried it with a calligraphy set I tried out as a kid. Not quality materials, mind you. All that really happened was the screeching of the ink on the stone was the stuff of chalkboard scratching nightmares, and I got no workable powder off the stone. In fact, all I did was impact the inkstone even more, and I couldn't get anymore ink out of that side even with water. I had to flip it over and grind the other side.

[@keevansixx4185]

@@lynnthomas8457 it's possible to resurface a bald slate inkstone with a heavy grit diamond sandpaper block, just extremely time/labor intensive as you have to sand against the bias of the stone. Have a small travel sized slate inkstone that went bald from use. took me a couple of hours with a diamond sandblock to get a proper grind surface back on the face of the stone. Works great on slate, a pain in the arse on the more harder stones....If i knew then what i know now, i'd skip all the ornamental hardstones and stick with a better slate inkstone that i know i can repair.

[@livewellwitheds6885]

I love that!

[@faus585]

The script is an ancient Chinese script, called the "seal script" （篆書）, that is 3,000 years old, popularized in the Qin （秦） dynasty. It reads ”五彩墨“, five-colored ink.

[@allison2897]

why do you know this... like how?

[@allison2897]

@Slavic Cheem I mean like yeah they do... But still tho

[@xdinogacha8561]

thats really cool! this needs more likes

[@allison2897]

@@dilucwithamustache true

[@faus585]

​@@xdinogacha8561 Thank you guys :D I'm so glad it is informative! I'm Chinese American so I do have an advantage loool

[@veronicaswanson5915]

I'd like to see Jazza try this again with all the advice from the comments.

[@teresahiggs4896]

But someone please send him a proper brush and some black ink sticks!

[@TheAngelArrow]

i don't

[@TheAngelArrow]

@Mister bruce the Mentally disbled bat cosplayer huh

[@累-b9o]

@Mister bruce the Mentally disbled bat cosplayer not always but clearly someone who learns it is more professional than someone who didn’t even research before trying 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Janka007]

That's what the text on his shirt means. He's a kinesthetic learner. Half-joke... He is trying to guess how to use mediums and checks afterwards if he was right. I understand the people who were not happy to see him ruining the ink stick, but this channel is about experimenting-entertaining.

[@ADCArtAttack]

Hey look! Its those things!!! The things even I didnt know what they were 🤭

[@jacobex5157]

I thought I might see you here!

[@musu8410]

Things

[@glitch9862]

Adc art attack you are amaaaaaaaaaaaaazing.🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@ADCArtAttack]

@@jacobex5157 I .... I need to get out more haha

[@shade1264]

hi

[@zylithh]

The words on the inksticks are chinese, "五彩墨" meaning Five colored ink for writing. However it was written in an ancient chinese font which may be kinda hard to recognise. Thanks ​@Blackmesh for correcting me I can't read 😂

[@BlackM3sh]

It's actually 五彩墨. I'm pretty confident the first character is 五, meaning «five», not 文. Probably because there are a total of five sticks.

[@Foxfire-chan]

That’s what I thought the only difference is I can’t read any Asian writing. I went only on appearance alone.

[@davidy22]

It's not a font, words were actually just straight up written different 2000 years ago

[@drsch]

Only hard to read to mainlanders.

[@drawbyyourselve]

If I recall correctly these characters are also used in japan (of course having taken them from china) and nowadays only for signatures

[@TheGoopiestGoopa]

Everyone's heart dropped when he destroyed that white ink stick

[@SomebodyThatYouDontKnow]

Nah not really.

[@VexChoccyMilk]

I enjoyed it, I hope he soaks the lot of them.

[@eviebraud1307]

I'm not the only one

[@sirmangees9090]

It hurt my soul when he put it in the water in the first place-

[@seankinch9989]

@@sirmangees9090 same

[@artninjitsu]

I wouldn't mind seeing more experiments with historic painting mediums. I'd love to see what you do with ancient Egyptian pigments/binders.

[@anoekterpstra2308]

Would be very interesting! But it would be a bit too hard for him i think, quite a lot of those pigments are now incredibly rare/expensive/unethical/toxic etc. Also the history people would never be satisfied😅

[@4uartaOnda]

@@anoekterpstra2308 why "unethical"? I rlly don't know...

[@anoekterpstra2308]

@@4uartaOnda well, dont know from the top of my head, but if you look at the immense unjust labour that went into some of those pigments, and the Harm people went through making Them back in the Day... (Arsenic green, lead White etc. , all more harmfull to the workers then the consumers) i cant Imagine the things that might still be going on today, considering such substances (not these specifically, i believe those are very illegal)

[@4uartaOnda]

@@anoekterpstra2308 oooh... mames sense

[@MoltenImaginings]

Please experiment with more historical mediums. Encaustic wax is originally ancient. But has been modernised and is really fun to try out

[@baasiix]

Instructions: *exist* Jazza:...Yall hear something?

[@mahnoorsalman876]

Jazza: imma pretend I didn't see that

[@bambirino9265]

Instructions: Does he not see us?

[@mahnoorsalman876]

@@bambirino9265 yup

[@hallo-vf2ww]

Everyone knows people should not read instructions So idk what you're talking about -.-

[@actuallycovid19isfake2]

ha this is funny I’m being sarcastic.

[@whlzzy1469]

The Chinese writing that he wrote is literally “ink”

[@vikaa6969]

I-

[@ARCOMEITHIA]

I have no words...

[@Msmc-pr4mr]

Welp, technically it's "colourful ink" since there's a 彩 there

[@Zenith_682]

“I used the ink to write ink”

[@Luc_ss]

Fax

[@dannydanizz6983]

When you subscribed to Jazza, you've unknowingly signed a contract to be okay with whatever expensive art supplies he ruins.

[@Bluetopazbeast]

I laughed so hard to this comment

[@notchs0son]

When you watch any KZbinr you eventually understand nothing you do will help and bliss is found in accepting it

[@Its_Jess00]

I cringed so hard when I saw him destroy the white ink stick 😅😂

[@dannydanizz6983]

@@Its_Jess00 i KNOW Right smh

[@Rabid_Nationalist]

Well yes but actually no

[@cyclingmaples6276]

The destruction of that white stick made me die a little in the inside

[@nekopoptart]

I know same I yelled no😅

[@johnnivek9653]

I use these. That made me really sad.

[@badwabbit]

I quit watching after that...I think those should have been decoration...

[@lightswitch2622]

@@badwabbit that’s sad

[@unlink1649]

:( this

[@susedianinso]

"No noise and no inkstone scratching indicates high-quality ink sticks" Jezza's setup: Inkstone Scratched AF and sounds like sandpaper grinding :D

[@SomebodyThatYouDontKnow]

The inkstones were not quality after all, but whatever it was just for the experiment.

[@Violianom]

@@SomebodyThatYouDontKnow No, you're supposed to grind the flat bottom on the stone because that's more surface area. He was using the edge so of course it's gonna sound awful

[@shadowtarius2402]

​@Violianom So True!! Also he treated it like water color not the ink it is.. grind more.. less water !!

[@trishsoren3445]

If I remember correctly, grinding the ink stones was to be "meditative", so the painter was in a calm, contemplative mood when starting to paint.

[@wotwott2319]

in all honesty, doing that for hours on end would just annoy me.

[@VixeyTeh]

Also because it is pure pigment, you can choose the medium you want to mix it with. Water, alcohol, oil or a combination.

[@WWTTFFBBBBQQ]

You can say it's meditative but why did rich people have dedicated people grinding the ink for them if it's a part of the art.

[@Marnige]

@@wotwott2319 isn't it really satisfying tho... I really love the little 'stream' where the ink flows down.

[@Lftarded]

​@@wotwott2319this comment is our proof that we have fucked our attention span by a ton. We literally got less than a fucking fish

[@バナナお爺さん]

Looking at this kinda hurts my Chinese soul, we use rice paper (宣纸), as it is more absorbent and thinner. I personally had learnt ink drawing for a year or two, using them on rice paper and normal paper is two different experience. Btw he needs to rub the stick more for more consistent and darker colour. You usually have a pool of really concentrated colour, water it down for lighter colour, adding a drop or two of black ink to make it darker, having that 5 sticks really is enough to draw a colourful drawing with sense of depth.

[@blueberrypawsome]

He didn’t know lol

[@バナナお爺さん]

@@blueberrypawsome that's why I'm here, duhh

[@KhanMann66]

No excuses!😠

[@バナナお爺さん]

@@KhanMann66 shut up dude, just... shut up. I'm not even gonna..

[@バナナお爺さん]

@@MDaggatt IKR, I saw him putting it in the cup of water and I just came here to comment and never watched the rest :')

[@ajhb17]

I’d like to see you revisit this medium after doing the proper research/getting rice paper

[@ulexite-tv]

Yes, please.

[@BradKandyCroftFamily]

I really enjoyed what he did and the respect he gave it and the joy he found in it. Especially the joy he found in something that's "thousands of years old" (his words). Apparently, you don't need research and rice paper to enjoy something beautiful. Good video.

[@ajhb17]

@@BradKandyCroftFamily ok where did I say it was a bad video? 🙄 I would just like to see what he can do with it’s full potential and see how it’s traditionally used

[@Michaelroni-n-cheese]

@@ajhb17 shhh

[@plainrocky4209]

He’s not gonna listen to y’all

[@drsch]

Yeah, we mess with those in school in Taiwan. It's very terrifying to walk into a room and find your kids playing with them and it's all over the walls.

[@thoughtfulwatcher]

This is strangely heart warming. Kids are the same no matter where they are in the world. I hope the ink wash off the walls easily.

[@SilverWolf_-cj4qn]

Question, was he grinding them right? I'm honestly curious.

[@niel3639]

現在小孩還知道這個嗎XD

[@lialeeCO]

@@niel3639 應該會知道啦(吧?)，但老師為了不要造成一團混亂都會要小孩直接帶墨汁就是了

[@lucist3098]

墨汁也还是会容易弄脏啊😂我之前学书法多少也会弄脏手，超难洗的。And black inks are very hard to wash off, I always wear old clothes when writing Chinese calligraphy. The Chinese black ink is similar with Japanese sumi ink but the contents in the inks are different. Chinese black inks have a slightly smell if it's not used for a long time.

[@hwchen39]

I immediately recognized those as Chinese ink sticks, though I feel that your friend should have sent you a black ink stick as well since that is a fundamental color! These are used in traditional Chinese ink painting and calligraphy though you traditionally use it with a máo bǐ 毛笔 or brush. They look similar to watercolor brushes but actually have a core inside which helps contain the ink. Moreover customarily you use xuan paper, a type of absorbent paper made of mulberry fiber. Grinding the ink was an important and meditative process for Chinese calligraphers and painters and was customarily done slowly. The art form of practicing ink and brush art still persists today in many East Asian families. My grandfather was a calligrapher and one of my great-aunts is a guohua painter.

[@princessaria]

So interesting, thank you for the info Holly!

[@TheSenseiAshinaga]

I love that your comment is instructional, helpful, and not just attacking his ignorance of the subject. I learned by watching and I learned from this comment. Thank you.

[@faithlmao5082]

Very well written and interesting! Thanks for the info :)

[@CGI_Andy]

As beautiful as the artwork was, he should try again but this time with some help from the comments and tutorials.

[@TheWaterMarbler]

I died inside a little when you mutilated that poor white ink stick for no reason.

[@minimongoose]

same

[@pickledfeet77]

hEs rAcIsTt

[@minimongoose]

@@pickledfeet77 If you think we're calling him racist when we are saying literally only that we're sad at wasted ink, then you have serious issues with projection. Might want to talk to someone about that

[@thebestel]

Yeah man. Made me wince so much!!

[@meedyy99]

@@minimongoose pretty sure they were being sarcastic, looking how they wrote :[

[@depressedcheeseburger3598]

Imagine holding an ink medium, older than your country.

[@Serkoid]

hearted

[@hotrod35gaming33]

50YEARS AGO WHAAAAT What a surprise I get more likes here duh everyone does like in replys

[@hotrod35gaming33]

Jk lol

[@hotrod35gaming33]

I’m dumb as

[@emre_d_luffy]

older than modern world man ahahahhss

[@ClokworkGremlin]

The use of ink sticks comes from actually a pretty simple principle: ink is an "expanding" type product, like Kool-Aid. Ink sticks could be manufactured in a workshop near the raw resources, and then boxed up and shipped en-masse to calligraphers, who already had a source of water nearby. So it makes sense to ship them dry, which also allows the ink to be shipped in relatively inexpensive and less durable packaging, and then allow the end-user to assemble the components into liquid ink. I've had an inkstone on my wishlist for the better part of 2 years, but haven't had the disposable funds to throw at it yet.

[@Sharie_mabari]

my Chinese teacher would have an aneurysm watching you grind that ink! She always taught me to make full, slow, neat circles hahaha I did calligraphy with these as part of my Chinese lessons! EDIT: to add to that, I think your ink was way too watery, Jazza! A little water goes a long way and makes a much more pigmented ink! Also try grinding with the ink stick tip flat against the stone, so that more pigment can rub off every time you circle around!

[@chefany01]

If only he had taken this more seriously! Like a comment I saw said, kinesthetic learning doesn't mean to learn without instruction.

[@user-pc7yj7pl6c]

ya still gotta admit the art was pretty good i see ur point tho

[@Sharie_mabari]

@@user-pc7yj7pl6c Oh absolutely. It was good! It was just frustrating to see him complain about how unpigmented/watery his ink was when that's now how it's really supposed to be.

[@Marnige]

@Withro Anime Edits yeah, you can't criticise something if you ain't doing it correctly. Like the comment above mine said, you can't blame the medium for not getting pigmented results if you're aren't doing it efficiently.

[@darthtaiter]

I was going to say almost the same things except for having a Chinese teacher, watching the ink stick abuse was painful, but his enthusiasm is great. :D

[@lislaiya3211]

These grinding sticks are a piecd of art themselves. The sticks and also the packaging are so pretty!

[@annekabrimhall1059]

It’s a really great way to store your pigment before tubes and plastic!

[@mb-uh3wr]

I like the fact that this was uploaded 4 days before Chinese new year/Lunar year

[@sirstrategery5693]

If they hold your interest enough Jazza, there's a Japanese take on ink sticks, in an art form called Sumi-e. It's focused on trying to capture the impression of something rather than the hard direct details, and discourages trying to fix mistakes. Consider looking into it!

[@matthewmcdonald1812]

Sick

[@fyttii]

I would like to see this as well! I have a calligraphy subject at uni and we just had a seminar with some japanese artists doing that art form and it is beautiful!

[@sawanna508]

My aunt dose Sumi-e. It's a very beautiful technique.

[@draconiusultamius]

Ohh yeah, I've played with these as a kid. I'm Chinese and I think I got a set from somewhere. Only black ink though, and I have no idea where my set is rn, but it's somewhere at home. I honestly don't mind someone experimenting with things like this because that's exactly what I did with mines, but at some point, it would be nice to see him try to use these in the way you're supposed to.

[@crystalzanic5056]

It’s supposed to be ground slowly, rhythmically and methodically. It is known to put one into a very meditative state. Expect to invest about 5 full minutes grinding before achieving the end result.

[@LuminantLion]

"A quality inkstick should not scratch or damage the ink stone." Jazza's ink stone: *is pale as a ghost after using*

[@HeadCannonPrime]

he was grinding it with too much force.

[@miaomiao1167]

It takes a lot of patience

[@BlackSaphire96]

Makes me wonder if the quality of the ink stones you use matter as well.

[@goon5971]

5:06 He was using too much force and as u can see here she/he was not using too much force

[@firstnamelastname6016]

The sticks usually need less pressure than expected. They dissolve really well, and people newer to the method might need to go through a few stones before they get it just right.

[@Ucceah]

if you enjoyed these already, you absolutely have to try out a decent quality traditional black ink stick sometimes. they are an absolte joy to use! PS: use the end as flat as it is, to keep grinding surface area flat. only use a few drops of water to grind up thick creamy black, and dilute it in the deep end of that stone.

[@J2Jgames]

Should we tell him that kinesthetic learning doesn't have to mean without instruction?

[@down_by_the_river]

Nah let's not ruin his fun but even if we did I doubt he'd listen to us😂

[@animationspace8550]

Let him have his moment. Nah tell him, he'll misinform the public, lol

[@archerstone6993]

🤣😂

[@ponygirl1115]

Nah let him have his fun

[@markangelquiatchon1219]

its just basically says, learning through experiencing it first hand, which i dont think he is wrong completely.

[@ubtpixielox]

I always struggled with making the black ink 😅 it’s on a black stone, so it’s really hard to tell if you’ve actually added any pigment to the ink or if it’s still just water 😂

[@MikuruChan123]

I know what you mean! Thank god for that liquid synthetic black ink.

[@TryinaD]

@@MikuruChan123 Mood, that's why I use the ones in a bottle, they're always the Thiccness I need.

[@seraphywang4638]

I put it in a small ink pot of sorts so its very visible

[@mahelaniarektbb]

With black ink, you have to judge it more on thickness rather than sight. And have a scrap piece of rice paper (or whatever type of paper you're using) to make a stroke to test it. That's what I do!

[@MikuruChan123]

@@mahelaniarektbb sometimes, when I was reaaaaally tired, it wouldn't be able to see how thick it was. But usually, if the end of my brush gets saturated, I know I'm getting somewhere

[@savannalewis1189]

I really think you could have used this as an opportunity to learn the cultural aspects of this medium and how to properly use it. Would have been a great educational experience for you and your viewers.

[@yemrots]

yes

[@SomebodyThatYouDontKnow]

That ruins the fun. He sees fun in finding out what the art supply is and how it works by himself, rather then spoiling the fun by searching it on Google.

[@kittypaws1946]

he did. he read us the basic history. this is a fun video, not an educational one. if you want a tutorial on how to use ink sticks, this isn’t the right place.

[@micheal2458]

would've possibly prevented him from referring to everything as "oriental," too 😬

[@huskyloverlilac]

Hhh..Ok. While I agree with this..just let people have fun. He meant no harm in what he was doing. This isn’t meant to be a fully educational channel, if you wanted a tutorial on how to use there look it up..not to be rude, but genuinely..he meant no cultural disrespect.

[@theweirdscape]

as a mix of southeast and East Asian living in SEA, it genuinely surprised me when you had no idea what the ink sticks were! goes to show how far the world has come in letting everyone share their cultures ✨

[@edzejandehaan9265]

Don't judge the world on the basis of what one individual knows or not knows. I am born and raised in the Netherlands, live in Iceland. I have known about this ink medium since I don't know when.

[@jordyreyes1246]

@@edzejandehaan9265 and i live in the US and can promise no body ik would know what those things are

[@jordyreyes1246]

@@edzejandehaan9265 including myself ofc

[@mixxuie]

@@jordyreyes1246 and I live in the US, have no Chinese heritage, and had a set of these in grade school lol.

[@doubtful_seer]

@@jordyreyes1246 I think you would be surprised what people around you know that you think they might not.

[@solkatships5286]

My old music teacher went to Asia (I can’t remember where exactly so I’m generalizing I’m so sorry) and had gotten over a hundred of these for us to use for our paper puppet play and watching you do this reminds me of helping her after hours for the week beforehand

[@nadaxx_]

Man thats cool!

[@AxxLAfriku]

GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear ss

[@sillydave5544]

@@AxxLAfriku Go away

[@joecheong1623]

@@AxxLAfriku stfu

[@corvinstory]

@@AxxLAfriku haha loser

[@kingvincent926]

I'm Chinese and this is a very confusing vid to watch THE WHITE STICK- OH MY HEART THE SACRIFICES FOR SCIENCE :')

[@afrodita2157]

How important is the white stick

[@afrodita2157]

Assuming the white stick is used at all

[@Jayden-uu8iw]

@@afrodita2157 Idk abt the specific ones he’s using but ink sticks are usually handmade and have hours of work put into them which is probably why a lot of ppl are saying this

[@1muichirosimp700]

@@afrodita2157 no it’s what they did to it…… thats not how you’re supposed to use it (putting it in water…. And then smushing it….) it hurts my soul……

[@O9naim]

Ancient chinese memes be like: Me: Finishes ink stick without losing it People: He is too dangerous to keep alive!

[@mahnoorsalman876]

Ah. I sifted through the comments for a memer like you

[@cactussenpai9625]

Lmaoo

[@hamzahaidar2084]

Lol

[@Oh_Low]

my record wasn’t even halfway...

[@creepycutiecrafty]

🤣🤣🤣

[@strawberrymilksamurai]

These are sumi ink sticks that are traditionally used in calligraphy (in both China and Japan), called shodou in Japanese (書道; the calligraphy is called "shodou", that is), and they're epic. I've used them to write traditional calligraphy on rice paper myself, in the traditional (and most effective) process, using a traditional brush (fude/筆 in Japanese) and they're the best combination in the world... peanut butter and jelly doesn't even compare. The ink is thick af and flows like a dream, and the brush holds the ink incredibly well. Also, it produces strokes that are impossible to produce with normal painting brushes. I've also tried to do calligraphy using and experimenting with other kinds of inks and brushes, but nothing came even close to what a duo of sumi ink and fude can do. I dream of buying someday a sumi ink tablet, ink stone, traditional rice paper and a set of different sizes of fude brushes (the calligraphies I wrote were in a few workshops held for Japanese language students like myself and they provided the materials) but they're hella expensive 😞

[@mellertid]

Oh no, now Jazza will try peanut butter and jelly art..!

[@wintersprite]

Peanut butter jelly time

[@lucist3098]

If you have the chance, try buying these supplies in China. They have stores that only sell calligraphy supplies, especially papers, they are cheap and they feel nice to write on. But ink types are different in China, they are more pigmented. But I would say the variety of brushes are much larger in China. Because shodou culture was introduced from China during the Tang dynasty.

[@lucist3098]

I learned Chinese calligraphy for about 6 years. But stopped learning after my mom passed away, because no one can take me to calligraphy classes. My skills may have degraded a bit because you really need a teacher to give comments on your writing so you can improve.

[@miaomiaochan]

@@lucist3098 My university (University of Florida) offered a Chinese calligraphy course, so check your local university or community college's continuing education course listings.

[@diGritz1]

Actually the act of making Sumi Ink is an important part of the process in creating calligraphy for special occasions like temple ceremonies. I always looked at it as a cross between something like the Japanese tea ceremony and the daily ritual of a cabinet maker sharpening their tools in the morning. Even the act of grinding took on meaning. In China they would grind in circular patterns on the flat end and in Japan they would grind at an angle on the edge in a straight line.

[@variantvirtue]

I wish you had done a little more research after the intial trial, I feel like there's a lot of interesting things you missed

[@ArcaneGinger]

I am a kinaesthetic learner too but it would have been nice if he actually looked up directions later at the end of the video just to see if maybe there were ways to improve it and use it better. Anyway this was a fun video for the coming up Lunar/Chinese New Year!! :) Happy New Year to all the Asian fans out there (And anyone else who celebrates it!) :D I Hope its full of many blessings!

[@donaldwirtz4731]

I didn't know what this was until now. I might be the same way... Or im just really at fucking shit up not sure witch

[@iicordii648]

It’s cool as shit but you definitely didn’t use enough of the “ink”. Add a tab bit of water and the ink stick. Don’t add more water afterwards, just keep grinding until it’s thick enough like an actual paint. I like your watercolor pic though

[@elijahfern.]

The best Jazza videos are the ones where doesn't know what the hell he's doing

[@grim_reaper_2151]

Be grateful he isn’t a doctor

[@LizGridleyArtist]

Need the reaction video from the artists who only use this medium! That would be so interesting

[@neok1yte494]

@@grim_reaper_2151 goes into a surgery, i should probably tell you im a kinesthetic learner :)

[@Pehmokettu]

Also KZbinrs who follow instructions exactly but still the thing does not work are often hilarious. :)

[@axeeye0953]

Very true

[@mew2o635]

Humans using this for the past 2600 years: 💪💪💪

[@navysart]

Yes 💪💪💪

[@christophe7723]

Well... Appart if you use it correctly

[@PPpeepi]

@@christophe7723 We dont know how to use it correctly. But the country they belong to know how to use it correctly...

[@riahcollins6558]

If you hold the stick straight up and down, not grinding only the edge like Jazza was, it's way easier. Moving the stick in a circle rather than back and forth helps too.

[@adampisarik6583]

didnt he say 12th century BC? so its 33 centuries so like 33 000 years right? My math is probably very wrong but its way more than 2600 years :)

[@RJelly-fi6hd]

I used these in my gifted class, about 36 years ago. I loved every minute of it, as we painted Chinese scripts on rice paper and we used bamboo paint brushes. This is the only lesson that I even remember learning about, in 5th grade!

[@SasukeUchiha723]

The teachers be like: you done with painting? Chinese modern student: I'm still working on producing color

[@gamingwithsalahuddingondal9401]

Lmao

[@lucist3098]

Actually in ancient China, the paintings are mostly black and white. So it's not that time consuming, and those who are able to draw are mostly rich ppl or scholars. They have someone to grind and produce black inks for them.

[@lucist3098]

Chinese calligraphy and painting are considered as skills for scholars.

[@meedyy99]

@@lucist3098 very true, but there are also heavily pigmented works that are drawn with such detail... its really astounding to me!

[@marshy_5406]

@@meedyy99 the more pigmented art works are a lot newer and rarer the farther back you go because pigments are rare and not as used compared to the common black which is used in writing and red ink used as official seals. Other pigments like blue and yellow are a lot newer because blue is an expensive ingredient to use. Modern calligraphy art is a lot more vibrant and and colorful compared to the older works

[@Little_Lemon_Arts]

I love how Jazza just doesn’t give af about doing stuff wrong, he just jumps right in and it somehow always ends up looking great 😆 my talentless ass could never

[@RestorerForer]

Haha yeah you probably suck lol. Don’t ever try doing anything with your life because talent is all that matters :3

[@gonzaga0715]

@@RestorerForer That's not nice :c

[@mahnoorsalman876]

I think he has got jk's power. If you know you know

[@mustacheboyo]

@@gonzaga0715 I think they're joking

[@FallenAngelHiroko]

@@mustacheboyo Hard to tell anymore. Hell, people were joking and making memes about JackSepticEye's dad dying. For such a lovable and sweet person, hearing him say "I fucking hate you" (to those people) was jarring.

[@OGLuckyBaozi]

I died a bit, seeing how he treated them... And he kept adding water...

[@joelg1318]

it wasn't even comedic

[@ulexite-tv]

I know, and then he kept saying it was like watercolours. UGH.

[@Truth_chan_studio]

He tried tho

[@Magenta_Crystal]

I remember a few years back, we had this extracurricular class that taught Chinese calligraphy at school (I’m Chinese), and we were each given a black ink stick and a tray. It’s very fun to make the ink yourself. and it’s nice to see people learning about different things in other cultures .

[@wordsinahandle]

What would happen if you didn't use water? Would powder come out or not much would happened or cause some damage?

[@Magenta_Crystal]

@@wordsinahandle nothing would happen, if it’s a good quality one. If it’s a bad one, I would most likely break.

[@denajaa]

it hurt my heart to see him destroy the white stick. it was so pretty before ㅠㅠ ㅠㅠ

[@pvic6959]

i like to watch him learn kinetically but this time it hurt _tiny_ bit because it felt like a whole culture was being ignored (even if he didnt mean any offense). ancient methods of things often had a "proper" way of doing things and um this probably wasnt it lol. fun video as usual though and im not really offended by anything lol. i guess i would have liked to see how this cool, ancient medium was meant to be used. I'll go find some other video for that though. jazza is about entertainment and he delivered :P

[@ayrachalarsen4945]

That's an understatement. I was yelling at the screen telling him to pull it out.

[@mahelaniarektbb]

When he started soaking it in water I was like noooooo you're going to ruin it. Then he took a knife to it. o_O

[@-bluemoon-]

tbh this whole video seems kinda poorly done/tone deaf. i get he wants to learn the medium “kinesthetically” but a lot of this was done just plain wrong and isn’t a very good representation of the medium at all. maybe take time to learn about the process and culture beforehand? bit disappointed to be honest

[@ash-is-napping]

Normally I feel like he does research stuff? I don’t know why he didn’t with this?

[@sethsolorzano6859]

Gosh I literally teared up when he started mutilating his poor white sumi stick. I've only done Calligraphy and Sumi-e for a little bit but watching this video I saw just about every rule broken in both art forms within the first three minutes. Nevertheless, I'm happy that Jazza enjoyed playing around with the sumi ink cause thats the real reason I started to do Sumi-e in the first place. So if he had fun than I see no real harm done. However, I think it would be interesting to see him try to do Sumi-e properly so he can see how difficult it is. even for an artist like him it would be difficult cause the strokes are so precise technically and yet still so simple in form. He would have to reevaluate everything he has learned as an artist which I think would make for an interesting video.

[@Nanancay]

I know this is a year old LOL but with all respect, these are Chinese ink sticks - you might just be mentioning that he can use these to do Japanese painting but for all intents and purposes this isn't Sumi- e.

[@monstergirlinc8707]

Finally, a medium i know about before jazza and i'm cringing at all of jazza's attempts to use them.

[@nothanks9980]

#cantrelate

[@SomebodyThatYouDontKnow]

He was just experimenting.

[@monstergirlinc8707]

@@SomebodyThatYouDontKnow im just having a moment like "wow! something i can do that jazza cant!" before he figures it out and does way better than i ever could.

[@izicle8391]

As a Chinese person, I am interested and happy that you did this! :D Thank you for expressing the culture!

[@alexkuhn5078]

So you've got three primary colors: Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails.

[@sriracha_sauce]

Traditional Chinese painting with these inks was actually the first art medium/style I learnt as a child and what got me into art! This is a throwback for me 😅

[@Forcommentingpurposes]

"I dont think I like that green" Kasey Golden would like to know your location

[@alyxjames833]

My thoughts exactly

[@changing22]

I thought of Kasey too!

[@aaronmiller7954]

As a kid, dry watercolors were a standard school supply and we would just wet the brush and mash it around in the colors. Everything turned out brown and it basically ruined the water colors. My first art lesson, after my grandma saw me ruining my watercolors,was her showing me how to actually use them. She showed me the lid had sections and she taught me to use those to mix in. You add your clean water in the lid compartments, use a wet brush to pick up a single color then proceed to color your water in each section,a different color. Use a clean brush each time you pick up a new color and it will keep the set clean and not turn ever color muddy. It was a priceless lesson that I still use to this day and I've taught countless other kids to use that technique as well. Thank you for the great art lessons ,grandma! I love you and miss you a ton. I wish I could sit with you and paint along to Bob Ross just once😢😊 no doubt you're in a better place now and in zero pain. See ya later gram😊

[@Self-Inflicted-Color]

In all honesty i would have never guessed i was using an inkstick as a lucky charm if i didn't watch this video

[@DaSunfish]

LMAO Well now you know XD

[@helenalin1493]

HAHAHHAH thank u for making me laugh, here’s a cookie for you kind soul 🍪

[@tyrantkekeke]

Ik from Mr.Queen K drama lol

[@rainydemigod]

Haha same I didn't know what it was so I just used mine as decor XD

[@TDSSDraws]

I was your 💯 th like ..be grateful

[@vern5317]

the fact that i didnt even know those existed was already mindblowing

[@FynitieLockheart]

The Chinese inside me screamed like a dying hyena when I saw the white ink stick came out from the glass of water. I used to help my dad grind these when I was young and he taught me calligraphy to draw for Chinese New Year decorations... *cries*..

[@quinnpuffer7901]

Also the Samurai in the picture 😬

[@Kate-hh8yi]

Awe, what a beautiful memory 💖

[@Octopetala]

Good for you

[@Zarola]

I cringed at the amount of water that was initially poured on the stone.

[@fuckyouyoutube7921]

Same

[@cellotinaa]

I did too, and I don’t even really paint

[@MCjossic]

So, apparently ancient China had laws on the number of toes you can give the dragons you draw. 3 for peasants/commoners, 4 for noblemen, and 5 toes were reserved for the emperor himself. Using too many toes was considered treason and was punishable by not only your death, but the death of your entire clan/extended family. Dunno how true this is, but it's funny, so I'll share it anyway.

[@kurotenshineko2453]

Actually depending on the reigning emperor having any dragon (with 5 toes) motif along with the use of yellow/gold was seen as a sign of treason/indicated a plan of usurping the current emperor. It could get your whole family executed

[@conscioussapphire6534]

@@kurotenshineko2453 considering how majority of chinese literature be it historical or modern, mention exterminating one's family upto 9 generations as some sort of punishment for even the smallest of reasons, I think theres a high chance that could be true.

[@CantharellusCibarius]

Watching you scrape and mangle the white ink stick broke my heart. If I were to do that back in my school's chinese calligraphy class, I would have been smacked so hard by my teacher.

[@iniyama2]

I remember doing calligraphy with ink stones in Chinese class some 15 years ago, now I wanna get some and try again 🙏🏾

[@jenny_t778]

These inksticks look soo fancy!!

[@everythingsfinett3903]

Bruh

[@jerriapproves]

Haha and good ones are so expensive too. I remember my Chinese painting teacher complaining about it all the time.

[@oliver-qv7qp]

Dear people that were offended in the comments, Constructive criticism is great! Just make sure you’re being kinda and respectful-I see a lot of comments saying “oh my god I nearly died when Jazz’s did x” or “jazza why would you ruin it by doing x”. Jazza, like myself and many others, have never heard nor seen this art medium-therefore have no. Idea. How. To. Properly. Use. It. So it’s great that you guys are helping out by telling us how-but please don’t be abrasive or rude about it. Also special note about the whole white ink stick-Jazza was doing an experiment on this new medium, it was meant to test the limits and gauge the composition of the materials. Please don’t be rude about that one either. Thank you, A Concerned Commenter

[@keara.ls3]

I really love how you took these really old, rare, and unique ink sticks and insisted on ABSOLUTELY DESTROYING THE WHITE ONE 😂😂🤦‍♀️

[@sevenmillionhobbies7840]

I have very fond memories of these! When I was a child, I would watch my grandma patiently grind these stones and I would take over! I remember she would tell me to stop bc I kept making more than necessary. It was a very relaxing process.

[@sasavlog03]

I almost cried as I watch this whole video. He did great studying the ink, and I'm not trying to bash. It's just as a Chinese-Korean who has their very traditional parents sending them to Chinese chaligraphy lessons, I really want to teach him how to use it.

[@eventfultable20]

I always get these notifications during online school!

[@hotrod35gaming33]

It’s 6:32 am

[@murilog.p.1383]

Same

[@unpolarizedtoast]

@@hotrod35gaming33 lol

[@murilog.p.1383]

@@hotrod35gaming33 here in my country its alredy 08:33

[@salwaaityaiz4139]

Me2 hah

[@lest6590]

"I can try calligraphy, and I could try art." Calligraphic artists: ; - ;

[@jsexychoc09]

I was definitely like bro, calligraphy is the epitome of an art form wtf lol

[@kotarodesu_23]

He definitely just worded it wrong, he meant art in the sense of drawings, calligraphy of course is also art.

[@jrsronwell]

@@kotarodesu_23 Yeah, wouldn't most people assume that art is drawing or painting rather than music or dancing or for this matter, calligraphy? It's that.

[@kotarodesu_23]

@@jrsronwell Especially if you look at Jazza's channel as a whole, being centered around drawing not calligraphy while he did do some videos on it.

[@Sparkitto]

I had a kid’s calligraphy kit when I was younger! I believe I bought it at a bookstore. It came with a tiny ink stone, a black ink stick, a few rolls of calligraphy paper, an itty bitty porcelain water dish the size of a bottle cap, and an instruction booklet with the animals of the zodiac.

[@jadetanner6551]

I love how you added some facts about the medium you’re using.

[@Mozgokepmusic]

Imagine trying that 2000 year old ink medium... With your 100 year old pen🤔

[@bluestblue435]

That'd be cool

[@thepuzzler317]

2.600 years old but the erth has only been around for 2,021 Just joking I know it’s been around for 4.543 billion years

[@paulherman5822]

Probably would work for a dip pen. However, fountain pens came out in regular use by the 1880s. Maybe would work for, say, a Moore's Safety Pen, but I'd be scared to use it for anything else. You can use some paints in a Moore's... As well as the anathema of fountain pens, India ink. Would love to see if it would work for a dip pen (or even a cheap throwaway fountain pen. 😁)

[@Mozgokepmusic]

@@paulherman5822 I was thinking more of Jazza's fountain pen he bought a few years back and it was a 100 year old atleast. So it would be fun to see him use that old pen with this traditional old af ink.

[@paulherman5822]

@@Mozgokepmusic Would be a risk. Fountain pen ink is really a different animal. Why I'd recommend a throwaway pen, at least at first. Though you never know. There's Japanese pigmented fountain pen inks that are not a problem, so it seems like if the pigment is finely ground enough... Being a "fountain pen guy," I'm scared about trying it out right away with something that old. I have one from the 1910s, and I struggled with using even a period correct iron gall ink in it (but I did. 😁 Very similar to the ink that the company made for it, and it's still not hurt it...) If it disassembles easy enough, might be worth a try. FYI: My pen is the same company. 😉

[@madswellejus]

Dear Jazza. I believe that I need to thank you. For about five years (on and off) 😀 I have found inspiration and good times in your posts. I can only imagine how hard it is to keep posting. But I know I speak for a lot of people when I say Thank you Jazza. Please keep doing what you do. Best wishes from DK

[@cyangoose]

It would be cool to see him go through a tutorial on how they’re traditionally used to see if he could come up with something entirely different.

[@HeadCannonPrime]

you mean he might actually learn to use them correctly and not mess them up.

[@YinBun]

This opened a core memory for me! I remember my art teacher having these (in black only) for an art session where we did trees, mountains, birds and even made puppets! It was such a cool experience and so fun to use.

[@iStepB]

Just recently I watched a traditional Japanese stamp maker use those ink sticks and you should take a look on his technique. He got incredibly good results out of just a few scraps on that board 😬👍🏼

[@augustusleo6704]

native Chinese here absolutely CRINGING at the techniques, jazza, *AM I A JOKE TO YOU?*

[@InsertMyChineseUsername]

Cringing so hard, my neck twisted too much and I became a spirit that can't pass over...

[@crystald3655]

Jazza didn't say in this video, but I'm sure he meant no offense to any person or culture. He's simply exploring a new to him medium in a way he finds is best for him.

[@InsertMyChineseUsername]

@@crystald3655 of course he probably didn't mean anything, it's just really cringe lmao

[@InsertMyChineseUsername]

@Withro Anime Edits he destroyed the poor white, didn't know how to grind it, used the wrong paper, etc

[@ostrich696]

@@crystald3655 9:45- *exploring a new medium go brrrr*

[@dragonhak]

Now let's make ADCArtAttack grind his cup of coffee

[@Acesco30]

He already ground all of those colored pencils, lol!

[@missanthropy5687]

"can these be used for art?" YES! look up sumi-e paintings :) my suggestion, having used them myself in the past, is to make a very saturated version of each color and place them in your palette, you can desaturate them by adding water :) its very fun!

[@hgdellinger]

I am speaking as an American, but from what I know, "Oriental" is an outdated and offensive term. Western European explorers used it to describe everything east of what they knew - think Marco Polo's times. What you're referring to, with the painting style and the cultures who use ink sticks, is East Asian. Specifically, it looked like you were going for a Chinese or Japanese style in your final piece. It's more modern and accurate to say "East Asian," especially since you're specifically looking at Chinese or Japanese language and art.

[@SesseTheWolf]

According to what I've previously read and now double checked, it is offensive in american english to say oriental when describing a person. There are art styles ("In art history, literature and cultural studies, Orientalism is the imitation or depiction of aspects in the Eastern world. These depictions are usually done by writers, designers, and artists from the West.") and other stuff that have oriental in the name, and in the uk people from specific parts of asia are called oriental and it isn't considered offensive - that's according to wikipedia anyways, I'm finnish and don't know the specifics.

[@cyrc9837]

@@SesseTheWolf “oriental” is an extremely vague term (it encompasses the near, middle and far east). even if you don’t think it’s offensive, it’s just not very useful. in this case, like op said, “east asian” would be the best term to use

[@SesseTheWolf]

@@cyrc9837 I'm not arguing for or against Jazza's wording or how efficient he should be. I just wanted to go read more about this after reading op's comment because I found it interesting how different places view the same word differently even in the same language (and the history of why), and to double check in case what I had been told before was wrong. Then I read about the british part which was even more of a different view so I came here to report my findings, to maybe get a response from someone british about their view on it. Also that article said nothing about australian english so I'd be interested in hearing about that too.

[@MrOgMonster]

@@SesseTheWolf Hi English person here, I was surprised a few years back or so to be told that the word Oriental was offensive, I was unaware of that fact then, and was pretty surprised. Perhaps the term has lingered here more than other places, a quick search on google maps shows my nearest take away is called "Oriental Gourmet", and in fact there are 7 restaurants and takeaways with "Oriental" in their name in my local vicinity, and one Super Market called "CMart Oriental Food". On the other hand I think it would be unusual in common vernacular to use "Oriental" to describe a person - more likely I think Asian, East Asian or more specific such as Chinese. I certainly wouldn't want to offend anyone in any case so I am careful to avoid the word.

[@MrOgMonster]

Further thoughts here, typically I would not have considered any negative cogitations associated with the word "Oriental" - to the contrary even it could be used to be almost be considered synonymous to "Exotic" or "Mysterious" and therefore to mean something desirable (hence the restaurant names). Consider though that I am but one data point and probably ignorant of many facts and of how otherwise the word is perceived.

[@mamabanana88]

Oh god, this gives me war flashbacks from grade school when my chinese teacher would critique me harshly for my brush calligraphy. "A chicken steps on the ink and runs across the paper, and it would look better than your writing!" She was a hard ass. To be fair though, my calligraphy sucked. 🤷‍♀️

[@Riroraruro]

My English teacher told me my handwriting resembled that of a dead chicken. I was seventeen. I feel your pain.

[@cynthiabrogan9215]

The modern version of this is “okay students, you can type your paper if you need too”

[@shaeellis3633]

That's the prettiest piece I've seen you do. That is beautiful!

[@Megan-bw5zh]

I feel like even if he wanted to learn it kinetically, he should at least check and explain the proper way of doing it at the end of the video. I mean this "no instructions" videos are fun, but it would be more educational and a little more respectful of he checked what he got right or wrong and tried to learn the right way after his "experimenting".

[@orchdork775]

Yes. It's frustrating to watch haha

[@johnbuck8241]

Or a guy could just do his thing and not run every iota of what he does through the "will this offend/satisfy every single person who ever watches this video" filter.

[@madladdie7069]

@@johnbuck8241 that's not what they're saying. looking into how it's used after experimenting is honestly still fun. just saying that if he checked he'd probably have figured out he was diluting it too much

[@arianamcentee4690]

He did research...

[@TheBlondiekitten]

I agree

[@ilovebirds2094]

In Chinese class that my friends and i take, we learned that the dragon was scared away by loud noises and red. If the dragon is also red, wouldn’t a mirror work instead? No rhyme intended lol

[@lumino7501]

The current mirror we use is different from how it was before, it wasn't so clean you could see yourself

[@LinfangWhatever]

Dragons aren't scared of loud noises and red, that would be the 年 monster (literally 'year') which the myth say it used to come to eat children every year for the chinese new year until they learned they could scare him away, which is why traditionally there's a lot of firecrackers red during new year.

[@crumiee]

all of this information i've been taking in from these comments is very interesting, i'm glad people are sharing

[@jennali9800]

@@LinfangWhatever can confirm

[@jennali9800]

i meant that as "can confirm that is what the Chinese myth says" not "can confirm I am a 年 monster"

[@Jin-ek5ll]

Would really love it if you tried these inks on Xuan paper, which is the medium they’re made to be used on!

[@weirdo_landz0679]

Why do the ink stick look like they taste good

[@MyNameIsMirror]

me want bite :)

[@FlameRat_YehLon]

The main components are animal glue and mineral pigment. So in a way it is technically stone jello.

[@MyNameIsMirror]

@@FlameRat_YehLon that's the best kind of jello!

[@diewald024]

@@FlameRat_YehLon Forbidden jello

[@sophiaduty6104]

@@FlameRat_YehLon MC (xxxxxxx xofoxxox

[@Salmon2121_]

In my brush painting class, I was told that you are supposed to grind the ink to a thick paste (almost a syrup-like consistency), then use your brush to pick up the ink and deposit the ink into each tray(?) on the color mixer. Then you use your brush to dip into the water reservoir to pick up the amount of water you needed for each tray.

[@DesolateLavender]

I'd like to see this done again, considering all the advice that has been given to you. Not that what you did here is bad or anything, but I think you could make something BEAUTIFUL with all of this new knowledge! Although, I know you're a kinaesthetic learner, so do what you want. Just a suggestion.

[@olly5573]

These ink sticks ar Chinese and the letters were also Chinese, your Chinese handwriting is very nice, love ur vids, keep it up !!!:):):):):):):)

[@cheesepleese_]

Ok you can be a kinesthetic learner and still look up how to do stuff.

[@Jayde419]

Sure. That doesn't mean he wants to. He has more fun figuring it out or failing to figure it out than he would looking it up.

[@GuiSmith]

Being told how to do something and actually figuring out how to use those instructions are also two *very* different things.

[@Shiskabobber1]

Seems like a big waste of time if you start off in the wrong direction 🤔

[@deanolium]

Also the whole thing of people being a particular type of learner is pretty much discredited. Instead people learn best with a range of different styles no matter who they are.

[@khaxjc1]

What bother me isnt the experimentation. Its that he acts like at the end he has it all figured out. Have your fun, try things out, then do a bit of research to see if you were on the right path or you missed something. Would love to see him do a version for fun and exploration then do the research and make a second version more properly and compare THEN give a review. Its like seeing someone review a cookbook when they didn't actually follow the recipes and it drives me nuts.

[@jeongbalsancat]

so Korea has this too. called Mok. It's my primary medium and I use it from shading with a brush to using pen nibs to draw line art. I did inktober with only Mok.

[@The_Narration]

Jazza savagely insulting all calligraphers: "first imma do calligraphy and then i'll do art"

[@Kt-cn2rq]

Right...with most languages writing is hard when don't know which stroke you have so first similar to those from Asian countries learning English writing.

[@sarumatsu3698]

get this to the top

[@The_Narration]

@@Kt-cn2rq Since the number of brain cells you've got clearly don't surpass the minimal amount needed to achieve a greater number than how many syllables I have in my name: I'll correct my intentional and obvious usage of widley known slang across the internet for you and present to you... "kAliGruPhy fIrzt tHen i"Ll du ArD!" No wait, I messed up, that was the defintion of irony...

[@The_Narration]

@@sarumatsu3698 I thank you, my friend

[@jenny_t778]

I would be waaay to impatient to do this. After making the colour I'd loose motivation to even start drawing... So props to you

[@lollylolly8186]

You can now buy the ink in bottles. And he’s adding to much water. But it’s an art.

[@everlasting9292]

I feel like ink grinding would be so soothing and satisfying

[@s.sunhaloo]

The simpler he makes something, the better it gets.

[@6root91]

Jazza being so proud of kinasthetically learning to literally grind two rocks into each other. lol

[@pinesoot1051]

I’m showing this video to any of my ink sticks that are acting up, thanks Jazza!

[@jacobvizard1873]

My man just put the Japanese flag in the middle of his Chinese inspired painting