The John Coltrane Pentatonic Scale - Discoveries & Exercises!

[@sagarkapoor9892]

That also happens to be RAGA shivranjani in Hindustani Classical Music. You can hear the song: "Tere mere beech mein kaisa hai ye bandhan". It is based exactly on this raga/pentatonic scale. Thank you for sharing this lesson. Love your channel!!

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[@BHAKTIBROPHY]

Indeed! Just like Major Pentatonic scale is Bhupali Raga. 🙏🏻💜

[@AndrewBoydMusic]

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[@gregcarter8656]

To fellow commenters --- The interesting thing is not a pentatonic scale, per se, but rather, that Coltrane used it in some clever and crafty ways in relation to certain chord progressions. I think it's more about finding chord CHANGES that take advantage of (pentatonic) scales, than about finding (pentatonic) scales that work over a SINGLE chord. That "eternal" chord progression had the pentatonic shifting in thirds upwards (C-, E-, Ab-). Coltrane dug chords/keys shifting in thirds, like in Giant Steps. Even with My Favorite Things, you can find interesting ways to use various pentatonic scales shifting in thirds, or other intervals, to fit the chord changes. So, the name "Coltrane Pentatonic" sounds sexy to jazz players, but it's really about how Coltrane matched a particular pentatonic structure with particular chord changes. I have not seen the product being offered in the video, but I would guess that it's interesting and fun for jazz players who dig Coltrane.

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[@danypulido4886]

That scale is also known like "kumoi(Japan)" is like a minor pentatonic from the Dorian mode. Thanks for the video!

[@MrFree-vj8qj]

It would need the min7 to really sound dorian

[@clustercrash2995]

@@MrFree-vj8qj i think well, if you wanna be purist about it, yes, only the dorian scale sounds dorian, even dorian #4 is too far. But following the "rule" of just keeping the most characteristic notes of a mode... That be the tritone b3 maj6 But definitely you have a point as dorian is simetrical(palindromic) and pretty much sinonymous with quartal harmony sounds so is the m7 structure. But i mean, what else comes to your mind when b3 and maj6 are there? Other than diminished

[@nic_lofgren]

A pentatonic scale built from the dorian mode would still be the minor pentatonic scale - 1,3,4,5,7. But since it uses the natural/sharp 6th, the 6th could be used instead of the 7th. Not both though, because the 6th and the 7th clash. In the case of the “Coltrane pentatonic,” the 2nd and 3rd clash, so it doesn’t fulfill the same function as a typical pentatonic scale. Cool set of notes though.

[@thatpaulschofield]

@@MrFree-vj8qj the root, minor third and major 6 are sufficient to distinguish dorian from the other modes.

[@leomaster2918]

@@clustercrash2995 also the melodic minor scale has b3 and maj6, while having a maj7

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[@jurdevries7393]

For the guitar players: you can play this scale in Cm6 as Am pentatonic with a b5, so you can keep the 2 note per string figure, and take it to all 5 positions :)

[@SelfHealingGod]

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[@janisp999]

FOR THE GUITAR PLAYERS: I would think of it as EbMaj7#11 arpeggio (Eb G A D) - try to play all 4 positions. Sounds cool over A-7b5, C-7 etc. The sound will probably be a bit different because of the applications of the guitar. Let me know how does it sound !

[@azharaz4140]

Tq Sir, will try n workout this technical stuff..cheers..

[@voronOsphere]

I don't see how that would form the Coltrane Pentatonic. The Coltrane Pentatonic has two notes a half step apart in a row (2nd & 3rd degrees). An A minor Pentatonic with a flat 5 added gives you 3 notes in a row (a half step apart), which the Coltrane Pentatonic does not have, and is actually just an A Blues Scale (which the Coltrane Pentatonic definitely is not).

[@voronOsphere]

The Coltrane Pentatonic follows the Dorian Mode and the Melodic Minor Scale note for note, minus the 4th and the 7th in both cases. Not even close to a Blues Scale.

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[@Luciparkjazz]

Also called the "Japanese pentatonic scale" (in opposition with the "Chinese" pentatonic) in Mick Goodrick's book "the advancing guitarist". Beautiful color minor 6 also used in gypsy jazz... Great video, thank you for this beautiful work.

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[@stumpshot70]

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[@Fr_OE]

these exercises are even great for a violin warmup, much love

[@theinfamouscletusherringbo8134]

You just made my day. I can now use the Coltrane Pentatonic for my guitar playing. Thank you very much.

[@Kapiwolf123]

its just a fucking Major pentatonic

[@monkface]

@@Kapiwolf123 yeah I kinda wondered about that. You have to use some discernment in viewing these fancy videos.

[@chrisnewman9693]

@@Kapiwolf123 with a minor third

[@Kapiwolf123]

@@chrisnewman9693 yes i realized again later because the key signature was gone in the licks

[@gregcarter8656]

To the replyers here --- The interesting thing is not a pentatonic scale, per se, but rather, that Coltrane used it in some clever and crafty ways in relation to certain chord progressions. I think it's more about finding chord CHANGES that take advantage of (pentatonic) scales, than about finding (pentatonic) scales that work over a SINGLE chord. That "eternal" chord progression had the pentatonic shifting upward in thirds (C-, E-, Ab-). Coltrane dug chords/keys moving in thirds, like in Giant Steps. Even with My Favorite Things, you can find interesting ways to use various pentatonic scales shifting in thirds, or other intervals, to fit the chord changes. So, the name "Coltrane Pentatonic" sounds sexy to jazz players, but it's really about how Coltrane matched a particular pentatonic structure with particular chord changes. I have not seen the product being offered in the video, but I would guess that it's interesting and fun for jazz players who dig Coltrane.

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This is so great. Thank you so much. It came just as I had been doing some marathon Coltrane listening the past few weeks. The PDF and mp3s are SO helpful. It's amazing how much valuable information you put to it. This will keep me busy for quite a while. :-)

[@Monkeygroover]

1 2 b3 5 6 : Thats a Kumoi pentatonic (Japanese) I came across that in a bass book written in the seventies, I think, by Rick Laird. There’s some other ones too wich are interesting.

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[@stackofiasco5591]

I read and now practice using a b6 penta but played off the 5th of your ACE formula. So....D E F# A Bb etc.

[@LarrySiden]

@@stackofiasco5591 That will sound like major with a b6.

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Great, Gerry Bergonzi in his book Pentatonics, written ages ago, presents different formulas of Pentatonics to be used with minor six Pentatonics. Another great resource.

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Excellent video and KZbin channel! These particular intervals of 1 2 b3 5 6 8ve are also the notes in Raag Shivranjani found in Indian Classical music but now aka the coltrane pentatonic, brilliant!

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[@rekindled3624]

Thank you for this! I was never quite able to capture and understand what gave that spiritual texture to his solo on Wise One Aside from the fact that it was John Coltrane's interpretation of the notes he was playing, of course

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I learn from you and I've been following Coltrane's music for almost 50 years.

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[@fomofreddy7306]

I really enjoyed this, I’m not shredding like Coltrane just yet, but I can feel I’m almost there.

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[@zimk5555]

Thanks for pointing out this beautiful scale. !!!In the last few weeks and because of this post from "Jazz Duets" people has been calling "coltrane pentatonic" to this scale on the video. I think is a misuse of this name . The "coltrane pentatonic" is refered in literature as 1 2 3 5 b7 pentatonic. The one in the video is refered by different names :"pentatonic 3b " or in some books "Kumoi" but never as Coltrane pentatonic. Nor Bergonzi nor Ramon Ricker mention that scale on their seminal books about pentatonics , Strange isn't it specially if it was soo related to Trane in order to be called by his name. The scale on the video is mentioned by Gary Campbell ("Extensions") as pentatonic b3, by Bert Ligon , as b3 , by Rich Cochrane as kumoi and by Rawlins ("Jazzlology" ) also as kumoi. NO ONE (that I know) (other than "Jazz Duets") calls that the Coltrane pentatonic.. Of course you can call it what you want. The only thing important is HOW IT SOUNDS. But it was so nice (and beneficial to students and teachers) to call same things by the same names in order to avoid confusion. Best

[@stackofiasco5591]

I believe you’re correct. Thank you. Can you help us out with that b2? 🤔

[@jeffdevlugt4784]

zimk do you also have this breakdown for scales by Ornette Coleman?

[@zimk5555]

@@jeffdevlugt4784 Scales by Ornette Coleman ? No I don't.

[@allrockirwin23]

Saludos desde Buenos Aires Nick! Amazing video as always, just wanted to put my two chips in and add that this is also the Japanese Kumoi pentatonic.There's also the Hirahoshi with the flat 6, and the Pelog with the flat 6 and 2. Abrazo enorme!

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[@TracyKimMusic]

I have been calling this the Sweet Georgia Brown Pentatonic to my students for all these years! It is the second phrase (measures 5-8) as played over a dominant chord. Basically, you just flat the 3rd of the major pentatonic scale(measures 1-4). Check out Sweet Georgia Brown! However, it is used quite a lot in Gypsy Jazz because Django favored the minor 6/9 chord flavor so much. Whatever you want to call it, great video! Cheers

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[@gawoca]

Better check out" Expansions" by Gary Campbell, published 1988. Been teaching this (in a more comprehensive form) for 30 years.

[@aadrianogamino]

Just checked, it's really good, thanks

[@dillpickle1960]

I bought expansions 30 years ago. It is the best pentatonic treatise and the foundation of the Bergonzi method.

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A great book everyone should have! Bought mine years ago. Also, beautiful video!

[@seriousoldman8997]

Great book Gary! Loved identifying this over other chords too with Joe Henderson,Woody Shaw and Michael Brecker. Still using your book now.

[@elgabytrastornado5993]

Thanks!! Extraordinary video!! I would like to mention, F minor pentatonic over a E7 altered chord, there are a "wrong" note (eb), but... Its like a "passing" note!!! Hugs, great máster lesson and great video!!! Hugs!!! 🎸 🎼 🤓

[@patshep68]

F-G-Ab-D-E is this version of a pentatonic.... flat 9, sharp9 3rd, 7, 1.... where are the wrong notes? lol

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@@patshep68 Eb

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[@chinua000]

Clarity, Simplicity, feels like doors being thrown wide open. its such an exciting feeling, gaining transparency and resolution on how simple patterns are underneath the genius. Love your videos! A tasty algorithm that you can apply to many situations is here. Heres what I saw. It was hard not to notice your minor 251 example at 7:10 used key centers that magically spell out a minor triad. In Dm 251 you used G Coltrane Pentatonic Bb Coltrane Pentatonic and finally resolved to D with the same pattern. Noticing that means that anytime you are in a minor key, you can mentally trace a minor triad from your root note, and prepare to play those Coltrane Pentatonic scales over the 251. See it? For Example, Cm 251 ( Dmb5, G7alt, Cm) means you can start from C and imagine a minor triad that ends on the tonic, which is Fm of course. So play F Coltrane Pentatonic over the 2, Ab over the Galt and C over the C. Magic.

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Fantastic presentation. Thanks Nick....