Thanks Terry for also looking at products a little bit off the beaten path. So many interesting speakers, so little time!
@alm56933 жыл бұрын
In the US, the 4309's are the same price as the KLH 5. I'd love to hear them compared side by side.
@tomhirschel85243 жыл бұрын
JBL 4306 is closer to the 4309,in my humble opinion.The JBL 4367 is a great speaker for rock music. Great review. The comparison's were great.
@fletchermunson62253 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry. I love these mega comparisons. Due to some psycho COVID purchases and my inability to pass on an open box discount I decided to sell off some things. Dynaudios Evoke 20s consequently have left the building. Next on the chopping block are the JBL HDI 1600s and a tube amplifier. I have been running them together prior to the amp buyer picking up his purchase, and I continue to be impressed by the HDI 1600s. I may have to reconsider that parting of the ways. I'm sure you will ferret out all it's little foibles and shortcomings but they do it for me. I must not be alone. Before the Evokes were finally purchased, I had several people want to trade, confessing that already had three or four pair of speakers and just couldn't pull the trigger on another pair. heh.
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to reviewing the HDI1600
@harrisarp38413 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review Terry i think this is gonna be my next speakers or Axiom M5HP!!!! Take also into consideration (of course if its possible) a review for Axiom M5HP i heard a very nice things for these speakers!!!Are made in Canada!!
@ethimself50643 жыл бұрын
Energy Speakers are good and also made in Canada as are Bryston Audio which now make speakers
@crk1403 жыл бұрын
Try ascend acoustics Sierra 2ex. Fantastic speakers, available in made in the USA cabinets. They probably blow these away.
@ethimself50643 жыл бұрын
@@crk140 Check out the Bryston speakers and reviews - kinda expensive though
@harrisarp38413 жыл бұрын
@@crk140 these are amazing speakers but unfortunately i have to pay an extra serious amount for the customs too !! In the other hand the EU has an arrangement with Canada and we dont pay for customs for products that are made in Canada.But thank you for the recommendation!!!
@savagemako17 Жыл бұрын
According to the back info panel, sensitivity is 85 db. Good video, thank you.
@ericshutter53053 жыл бұрын
got 2 small LSR-305 5" monitors for my desk ... very nice (active) near field monitors 👍
@mr.george76873 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your review of the upcoming JBL L52 Classic. Their looks alone have me sold!
@SinusPrimus11 ай бұрын
4:28 Thank you for not having anechoic measurements. Greetz from 🇨🇭
@PursuitPerfectSystem11 ай бұрын
Yeah I dont have a chamber in my home :)
@SinusPrimus11 ай бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem You don`t have to own a anechoic chamber for anechoic measurements. Welcome 21th century. 😉
@PursuitPerfectSystem11 ай бұрын
@@SinusPrimus you kind do really I know some machines approximate it but of course it’s not exactly the same. The same as a chamber is not the same as something like Jupiter than Dynaudio have. Either way it’s all just tools that mean something but never everything
@SinusPrimus11 ай бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem no further questions, your honor. 😉
@PursuitPerfectSystem11 ай бұрын
@@SinusPrimus haha :)
@JNElectrics2 жыл бұрын
I like the speakers and Tweeter you're showing.
@Audfile3 жыл бұрын
How would these compare to something like an SVS Ultra bookshelf?
@asplmn3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Have you by chance heard the bigger brother, JBL 4367? Would love to hear your thoughts on that.
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
Not yet no sorry
@asplmn3 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem love the way you review things so I would be hyped if you got those in -- or the big heritage Klipsch!
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
@@asplmn same I would be hyped to look at them as well :) thanks for the kind words really appreciate it
@myself616073 жыл бұрын
I just sold my pair of JBL 4365s that were too large for our living room, large and extremely heavy. But I miss their sound.Which makes me very interested in this model. I happen to own a sub as well. But what’d be the ideal amp I wonder? The 4365 sounded great with an old Linn 2250.
@arobinson228333 жыл бұрын
Great review Terry. Have you or do you plan on reviewing Meridian Speakers? Thanks Anthony
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
Nothing at the moment sorry
@bobb.99173 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry…..I'm with you…give me more bass….and tone-down the brightness. Don't know what the sensitivity is on The JBL's, but maybe a 300B tube amp could tweak them into a more pleasant listening experience and less "monitor"-like.
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
These speakers are not bright the treble is spot on
@thomasedward22313 жыл бұрын
That doesn’t look like a 87 sensitive speaker with that horn. Great review as always.
@antonyalumkal15263 жыл бұрын
0:36 What is the 4th speaker from the left? Nice to see two of them have ribbon tweeters. Like I said earlier, I look forward to the Quad Z2 review (far left), which I own, and hearing how it compares to the others in its price range. It's designed by the same guy (Peter Comeau) responsible for the Wharfedale Evo 4.2, so I'm betting it finishes at or near the top of the group.
@Sool1013 жыл бұрын
Might be an Eve, which are people who worked for Adam before but broke up. Check out Adam A7 for starters. It's a very popular monitor.
@antonyalumkal15263 жыл бұрын
@@Sool101 Thanks.
@damayor623 жыл бұрын
Outstanding as always Terry. I can't wait to see the HDI-1600 review.
@ashneel3 жыл бұрын
based on spinorama measurements the hdi measures slightly better
@marcoserafino835 Жыл бұрын
hi Terry according to your opinion since you got to test them both better this Jbl 4309 or the Atc Scm11??
@themastroiannis2 жыл бұрын
excellent review! you mentioned how linear the jbl 4309 are, similar to the kef ls50 metas. trying to decide between those 2...perhaps the kef have a bit more of detail and offer a deeper, taller, wider soundstage?? or is it the other way around?
@seanb33033 жыл бұрын
Great review. Why do most speakers have dips in the crossover region? Is it to mask the problems inherent with overlapping drivers?
@deeplyclosetedindividual3 жыл бұрын
It could be due to the passive crossover components introducing phase issues.
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
I think it shows the challenge of building a passive crossover factoring in frequency level and phase and the balancing act between them small dips in the response you won't hear anyway so its not the end of the world
@davidrivera21653 жыл бұрын
Following Through on my commitment Terry, I've listen to the review, and was actually intrigued for first 8 minutes. Then, as I expected from a Studio (in this case passove) monitor speaker the sound as flat as in no depth and one dimensional imaging. Most studio monitors are designed to be near field listening, in order for the mastering engineer to get an accurate reproduction without room effects. As you masterfully explained, a flat curved doesn't necessarily translate into a 'Perfect speaker'. Thanks Terry.
@TheMrColak3 жыл бұрын
That´s actualy a complete bollock. Flat speaker sounds the best, no matter where you listen to it.
@FOH36633 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrColak Exactly Smoothness in freq wins everytime.
@pennfootball713 жыл бұрын
Great review! To get a little more low end out of them try a parasound amplifier...like a JC5! Hegel top H590 would work too but is overkill. Maybe a Naim Supernait 3 or some Audionet amps.
@TheMatsushitaMan3 жыл бұрын
Why not a PEQ?
@tweedpenguin7122 жыл бұрын
Amplifiers don’t change sound lol
@pennfootball712 жыл бұрын
@@tweedpenguin712 Oh yes they all sound different
@tweedpenguin7122 жыл бұрын
@@pennfootball71 their job is to produce a clean signal. It’s a myth just like break-in and burn-in.
@charlescowper Жыл бұрын
will they double duty as a hifi speaker? Many thanks.
@johnsweda29993 жыл бұрын
Studio monitors like that go on a desk are not designed to go too low because they are supported by bigger speakers behind or subwoofers
@Coneman33 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between studio monitors and hifi speakers?
@bryang92903 жыл бұрын
Studio monitors are supposed to be designed for flat response and near field analysis of your music mix downs and mastering. I find studio monitors also serve well as speakers although you might want an EQ or a subwoofer with them depending on the monitor.
@murraywebster12283 жыл бұрын
Linearity and dynamic range
@glennjones65743 жыл бұрын
Why not use magnetic grilles
@jackedkerouac44143 жыл бұрын
My Klipsch r51pm's have those. I love it I can practically throw the covers on
@jean-lucbattista24923 жыл бұрын
each speaker gets such a similar response curve up to 1k, means that we see more of the room and or other factors than the speaker
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
yes that is the power of the rooms influence, its the same in every room hence why I do something about it
@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc77483 жыл бұрын
But have you tried these JBL as matched LCR and tested with the rancor scene from return of the jedi.
@themergen13 жыл бұрын
At about 0:37 to 0:40, what is the white speaker on the far left with the folded ribbon tweeter ?
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
Quad Z2
@jamband42303 жыл бұрын
I like the reviews without all the fluff. Enough information to continue researching the item but not those bloated audiophile words and going on an on about nonsense trying to describe a sound with subtle airy undertones and a slight crispness on the finish
@ashneel3 жыл бұрын
Hv you measured some Neumann kh310?
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
No sorry not looked at anything from Neumann. They popped up first when I did a Google search for studio monitor speaker that's only reason I used them as an example
@shaunjenkin59453 жыл бұрын
Hi what amps were you using in this review? Cheers
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
Leema Tucana II anniversary there is a review for it in the channel
@franciscoortiz69802 жыл бұрын
very good speaker. If you have the wallet for them. If not the JBL L52s are 1/4 the price and have ballpark sound including the High Freq trim.
@kenstephens29553 жыл бұрын
Hi Terry. It’s striking that all 3 speakers have exactly the same response curve up to 500Hz. Is that likely due to room response? With love, Ken
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
its from about 300hz that the room starts to dominate, they are not all exactly the same but close because the room dimensions and speaker placement matters 90%
@laika253 жыл бұрын
Price is each or pair?
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
Pair
@laika253 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks. (i had kind of guessed that, but these days, with speakers, you never know for sure) THANKS
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
@@laika25 always worth checking, made me go and check as well :)
@michaelmattson35153 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Voice of the Theater speakers only in way way smaller. They were PA speakers.
@Dr.Ignazio7 ай бұрын
And… what are you think in terms of sound comparing with the 4306? Did you hear it? Is there a significant difference? Thanks for your reply!
@krancan253 жыл бұрын
You are going to do the Ministra last aren't you :P
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
Haha no probably quad last as they are brand ew I think and will need running in a lot
@krancan253 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I agree, they need a looooong run in, in fact, you should run the other ones a bit more as well, just in case :)
@johncallaghan30973 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem If my Quad S2s are anything to go by, at least 100 hours!
@malibustacy36063 жыл бұрын
So how's the compression driver working out in a nearfield set up?
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
I didnt try nearfield sorry
@malibustacy36063 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks for the response, I don't think I've ever seen a compression driver used in a nearfield set up before.
@indignato4711 Жыл бұрын
Hi, what's the difference with the Klipsch Rp600M bass? Thank you
@alanl25503 жыл бұрын
Ribbed for your pleasure 😆😆
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
Glad someone got the joke :)
@stephenjon35023 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Yes Terry. The Mrs did. Told her they are on order. 😆
@murraywebster12283 жыл бұрын
You should be driving the JBL’s with a high current amplifier with at least 300 W RMS minimum, in my studio they would be driven by a professional power amplifier , LAB Gruppen probably, with 500w capability so that the amplifier is never stressed, in a studio the dynamics are extreme compared to finished mixed and mastered tracks.
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
They are rated to 150 watts at 4 ohms - the amp I used is rated to 150w at 8 ohms and 290 @ 4 - with 50 amps output current, its got plenty of minerals
@murraywebster12283 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem good amp then, best sign of a good amp for me is when the 4 ohm power rating is basically double the 8 ohm power rating
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
@@murraywebster1228 I think that is one factor that is a good sign too but not necessarily always for all amp designs
@garymcaleer61123 жыл бұрын
I trust my ears more than commentary.
@jeffkalina77273 жыл бұрын
Roadmap to a proper review. Good work. Others take notice please!
@GeoffParsons14693 жыл бұрын
you're very busy Terry :)......
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
Yes Geoff non stop mate 7 days a week
@GeoffParsons14693 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Keep up the great work mate, a lot of peoples "go to" hi-fi channel.
@kenwebster50533 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the off axis response because compression horns generally narrow the dispersion angle. Therefore, if the on axis response is balanced, the off axis can be expected to be extremely bass heavy. This can be a significant problem anywhere near walls. It's a design that is OK for open air PA because the dispersed bass just keeps radiating out side and away from the audience area. It isn't too bad in an auditorium because there is distance for dispersion and possibly room treatment as well. It's a pathetic design in a small untreated room though. It doesn't look at all like a studio monitor, but rather a typical PA design. You have to be careful with this type of design. I had a pair very much like that, designed to be used as either pole mounted mains or stage wedges. As stage wedges, without EQ they were OK for the performers who's ears were on axis, but most of the bass power radiated under, over and around them, only to bounce off the stage surfaces and out into the audience which meant that whenever they were loud enough to be useful to the performers, they completely destroyed the house sound with overwhelming muddy bass. The answer to the house sound problem was EQ but this made the stage sound tinny and metallic. So there was absolutely no solution but to replace them with something that had a more tonally balanced dispersion pattern. You might suggest stage treatment but that is not a solution, it's an after the horse has bolted Band-Aid. Once the sound is out there, you can't take it back, you can only reduce it through absorption or dispersion, which is not actually fixing the problem as it still exists. OK you haven't got that particular situation, I just use it as an example of how shit that type of design can be. Most people buying cheap speakers, would not have acoustically treated rooms, probably just common dry wall (which is poor). This is why I want to see if the off axis response, is as bad as the design suggests that it may well be? I've been in HiFi over 40 years, in PA over 30 years and never seen a good small room implementation of this type of design. The whole point of compression drivers is to get efficient high power transfer from the tweeter driver into the tiny mass of air in contact with it's small light weight diaphragm. While that is needed at the high power levels of PA, it is just not needed at domestic power levels. A dome tweeter is more than adequate and gives a much smoother dispersion pattern. One of the absolute best budget speakers in recent years is the Andrew Jones designed Elac Debut series. I don't own a pair & have no stake in them, just suggesting they would most likely be a better bet. Your measurement graph is not anechoic, so not a valid comparison with ones that are.
@ColocasiaCorm3 жыл бұрын
what is it with audiophiles and verbal diarrhea?
@kenwebster50533 жыл бұрын
@@ColocasiaCorm Not an Audiophile, I am nowhere near that kind of budget. I am speaking from 30 + years studying audio engineering texts and articles, managing and maintaining an auditorium PA, trying things out, measuring results & seeing what works and what doesn't. You know, the difference between a technician and an engineer is that the engineer does applied science. So, that means measuring and analysing data, to optimise systems. My training is as an analyst, that's what I do. So, your just plain jumping to wrong conclusions John.
@ColocasiaCorm3 жыл бұрын
@@kenwebster5053 have a good day Ken.
@danielgalvin63103 жыл бұрын
In the review, you asked 'what is a Studio Monitor?" While I agree with your assertion that one characteristic is a neutral and flat response. But as Mr. Rivera commented one of the critical features is near-field presentation. I'm somewhat surprised that JBL proposes a minimum spacing of 6'. Of course what part of a studio is important. Near the mixing board, there isn't room, in most studios, for 6' spacing, especially for multi-track review. In the usually separate reviewing space, a more 'consumer' system with more space and often different sets of speakers are utilized. This is still technically in the 'studio.' I still have a pair of L300s but my more than a dozen 45xx from the '60-70s are gone. I don't think that i'm in the market for them, but I'll go find some to listen to and who knows... Cheers. d - From San Francisco.
@lancekimmons94103 жыл бұрын
I think the 6 ft minimum is in regards to keeping them without toe in until they are further apart. This is likely due to time alignment with the horn. Most horns have a minimum distance required for alignment. If you listen to them without toe in you can be closer. The “ideal” near field spacing is regularly stated as 67.5” in a studio environment, with the listener in slightly closer than 67.5”
@PlaybackMansion3 жыл бұрын
Haych, gets me everytime
@uncleted39613 жыл бұрын
It’s unlistenable for me!
@frankvee3 жыл бұрын
Ribbed for your pleasure... I see what you did there, and I like how you think. 🤣😂🤟
@alexander_mmm3 жыл бұрын
The bass driver is so unproportionally small for this box. Looks quite weird with grills off
@billd96672 жыл бұрын
Omg, JBL needs a new webmaster. Try searching for these (or even the Classic). Good luck.
@fawzye22 Жыл бұрын
We had a 1st gen Echo in our master bathroom for listening to music in the morning kzbin.infoUgkxABghAEkaIDGZfHRBH3D3rBrlraNmnC71 and while in the shower. I didn't realize how tinny and awful the sound output on the original Echo was until we replaced it with the Studio. It was a sonic upgrade far beyond what I was expecting. Just wow. I love it because it's like having speakers IN the shower. My friend likes it because the music is so loud that she can no longer hear me singing. So that's a win-win.
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
Move them away from the wall if your getting too much bass
@ivabigbotty94373 жыл бұрын
The cabinet dimensions are being dictated by that "bossy" compression driver's wave guide, and those woofers are going to feel so small they're going need counselling for an inferiority complex from a certified psychologist
@bolsesolheim74693 жыл бұрын
Schtudio ?
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
You know what I meant right? Why be pedantic
@paulcha99393 жыл бұрын
you forgot about tannoy...
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
maybe they forgot about me Paul 😇
@ProfessorJohnSmith3 жыл бұрын
Not being funny but if you want a flat response or something other than that, why not just use an EQ?
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
I think thats missing the point
@joaquinbarreto93982 жыл бұрын
These speakers give you what you feed them. Extremely accurate and neutral as a Studio Monitor should be. I personally believe they are the best because I want sound to be reproduced as it was intended. I think HIFI has gone in all kinds of directions.One reason is because not many have seen this caliber of accurate reproduction and the other reason is because everyone wants a different flavor of sound.
@tweedpenguin7122 жыл бұрын
There’s no such thing as intended lol
@tweedpenguin7122 жыл бұрын
Studio monitors that are flat are like that so you can make the sound better than they sound on studio monitors. It’s to get all the levels right.
@andrefortune82783 жыл бұрын
Arendal look like winners for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@darrylduck63563 жыл бұрын
Shows that nearly all of the speaker dips and troughs in your measurements are room created.
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
Only in the bass and that is the same situation as every room - except no-one shows you those measurements - the truth. Even with the rooms effects being prominent there are still clear differences.
@Rhythmattica3 жыл бұрын
I reckon EVERY speaker should HIDE imperfections..... we'd all be happy.... Cost us all a lot less... Conundrum! (Not active? Sure there's crap designs due to internal amp designs, but so can be crap external amps too.... Conundrum! $1700 ?? 6.5"? lol)
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
😅
@zjzozn3 жыл бұрын
👍
@patrikbjorling43913 жыл бұрын
You said KLIPSCH in a condescending way...yes you did😂 But why...
@downersup22 жыл бұрын
I want to get some new speakers for a 2 channel stereo setup. I was considering the newly released classic JBL L100 12" floor standing or would you suggest that the 4309 which are part of the synthesis line would be a better fit? Thanks so much!
@frankvee Жыл бұрын
Ribbed for your pleasure… Hmmm… I see what you did there. 😂
@PursuitPerfectSystem Жыл бұрын
I always feel better when at least one person gets my humour 😂
@JonHunter802 жыл бұрын
nice review, well done, too bad the darn things are $2k, clearly JBL is jacking up the $$$ in hopes that the name will help in ripping off anyone dumb enough to actually buy bookshelf's for the same price that anyone could get great towers for, hmmm noooo thanks! jbl, smh
@thomasschafer72683 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 7900€ never heard the big bang.
@richardsaila80733 жыл бұрын
"Schtudio"... like the German pronunciation. 😂
@PursuitPerfectSystem3 жыл бұрын
I struggle to say some words on camera another one is digital which is a pain as I have to say it a lot
@richardsaila80733 жыл бұрын
@@PursuitPerfectSystem No problem at all. I really liked it. 👍 Greetings from Frankfurt Area.
@ronfrancois3 жыл бұрын
You ..very funny man. Ribbed..
@crk1403 жыл бұрын
Just my opinion, but I'm not paying 2 grand for any speaker manufactured in China.
@HansDelbruck532 жыл бұрын
The way Brits pronounce the letter H always amuses me.
@fredfungalspore2 жыл бұрын
Appearance wise I am sorry to say Typically JBL look cheap as chips shinny plastic horn and two lower ports cheap black plastic frequency adjustment knob and lastly the speaker terminals rubbish..JBL stands for Just Buy a Lemon 🍋