Full Independent Suspension Manco Dingo Go Kart Build Update

Big update on the independent suspension Manco Dingo go kart, the suspension is all done the engine is running and it's almost ready for a rip.

[@stephenc9173]

Looks like a cub cadet riding lawnmower steering wheel

[@JBRACINGinc]

You got it bud! If I start doing t shirts your getting the first one

[@johnsmithfakename8422]

These kind of karts are my favorite. Small size, with small displacement.

[@jimsec7344]

Small size with a 450cc banshee engine

[@kleincalahan]

Id love to see a picture of the rear hub assembly with the wheel unmounted. Your setup looks perfect from what i can see

[@BunkerBlog]

Been waiting for an update! Looking forward to see it moving.

[@BunkerBlog]

I'm sure you already know this, but if you want to eliminate bump steer the pivot points of the steering rack must be in line with the pivot points of your A-arms. Single A-arms don't "inherently" have bump steer; they have camber gain on compression (not necessarily bad for cornering, as camber is what you want). If you could find a way to mount that steering rack so its pivot points line up with your A-arms, your bump steer will be massively reduced to the point where it isn't even noticeable if not completely resolved. That being said, you're the first guy I've ever seen make single A-arm independent suspension all the way around. I'm very curious to see how it works out, because double A-arms all around are a lot more difficult. This could be a much easier way to go fully independent if it works! I may end up using your design for my own build down the line. And I've just gotta mention, it's awesome to see that this is based off of a Manco Dingo. I have one (much more stock than yours lol) and one of my biggest gripes is the lack of suspension!

[@JBRACINGinc]

Ya I was saying for my situation I was going to have bump steer because I don't have the room on the front of the kart to have it inline with the arms. I did drive it around for a little bit (before the homemade steering rack broke) and it handled great hardly noticed any bump steer. And suspension is a major improvement. I love the look of the dingo karts and I'm trying to keep it looking like one, I just don't want to have my spine compressed when I'm driving it, I sure you know what I'm talking about lol.

[@BunkerBlog]

@@JBRACINGinc I know all too well lol But hey good luck on the build, I'll be looking forward to watching.

[@manuelcruz9964]

It looks amazing can't wait to see how it runs..

[@luiggispeed4081]

Totally love your work Broh!!!

[@Jowey2010]

I find the shifter mechanism really cool. Ingenious !

[@JBRACINGinc]

I probably had more time thinking that up then I did on the suspension lol

[@roadboogalabuilds5318]

Kart progress looks good 👍🏻

[@PunkCoverMoose]

Looks awesome so far!

[@MIKEH.777]

So far it's a nice Go-Kart will dingo I like it and I'm watching these trying to get in preparation to build mine so thank you I love yours keep up the great work on the videos

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks Mike

[@M.TTT.]

That single rear arm seems pretty great and good enough for me with the balloon tires these carts run, this may have convinced me. Having reverse is pretty awesome, maybe if I come across a cheap enough quad someday.

[@JBRACINGinc]

Ya it’s cheap, simple and very effective

[@luiggispeed4081]

I had the same issue at first with bump steering in my prototype until I figured what you described: If you place the pivot points aligned and in the same plane the bump steering will approach zero the closer you get to perfection. ;)

[@BrianJMarsh]

Subscribed. This is 100% one of my dream builds 👌

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks bud

[@mgoody8782]

I’m currently building this model from scratch, but it’s a foot wider and longer with an 18hp. I think I’ll call it The Manco Mandingo

[@RobytheFlorentine]

WOW...thats soooo cool. Great job.... I want to do a version with pedals... I hope I can do it half so good you did. Regards from Florence

[@rickytejera6707]

That looks amazing

[@fernandoarroyo1378]

Lookin good man ! 🤙

[@demiproductions9902]

Very underated!! Great video!!

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks bud

[@drew9555]

BRO, i am going to pick this video apart prolly a hundred times in the coming weeks and months. I am going to build a little 2 seater offroad Kart here shortly, and your three videos have so much information in them. i really do appreciate it, i am sure you wonder if its worth it sometimes to do all of the work making these, just know that you atleast helped one dude all the way in Arizona. I can wait to see it all tied up, Thanks again

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks bud I appreciate the support, and if you have any questions when you build yours don't be afraid to ask

[@RandomPerson-ob1hk]

Did you ever do it @drew9555

[@drew9555]

@@RandomPerson-ob1hk I really wish I did. Weeks After this my wife was diagnosed with stage 3 metastatic breast cancer and lymphoma cancer. We/she fought hard for three years straight to get a handle on it, and she’s currently ok. Chemo did a number on her. I also had to have a fusion on my spine in 2019 and 21, and I just had knee surgery last week. Life is stomping all the good things that can happen into ashes. I genuinely hope you guys ever have to through this. 36 years old With 3 kids when it started…Its been rough. Ill make it though. prolly shouldnt of dumped all that here.

[@RandomPerson-ob1hk]

@@drew9555 God damn dude that sounds terrible but ain't nothing stopping you from building that MF go kart. Hope you get some energy to do stuff that sounds like a sucky time but think positive, you still got a wife and you still got a spine. Lotta people have neither lmao

[@RandomPerson-ob1hk]

@@drew9555 maybe you don't wanna do go karts any more but it obviously meant a lot to you before so maybe doing something similar and working on something will help you feel better

[@pwntagerz]

You have the most elegant yet simple rear IRS axle ive seen on youtube. Gonna try some Suzuki 4 wheeler cv joints that I have but you possibly have a better idea

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks, my plan was to keep it as simple as possible but it turned out looking pretty good too. Good luck on yours.

[@gregguiol2814]

@@JBRACINGinc what parts did u use

[@fatbuddycat]

Very nice kart! I'm honestly surprised you built this and know next to nothing about your motor! That said, I guess it doesn't matter because you can just change the engine out if it wears out. You did a lot of cool things and put a lot into this. Plus the fact you had parts made, shows how serious you are about the design lasting a long time. Just awesome my man!!

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks bud!

[@rcclassiccrawlers4368]

You may have problems bleeding that hyd brake caliper in that position. Bleed screw should always be on top

[@TintinMenonMotovlogger]

Amazing bud

[@fubarlife7776]

Sweet build! 👍

[@fubarlife7776]

I ride a recumbent three-wheel tricycle (KMX), two wheels up front and one in the rear, it's only way I can still pedal and ride.

[@nicolec7290]

They put those motor’s in everything

[@joshsprague7474]

Any way we could get a video from you with a full view of how you did your set up on the a arms in the back where are the shocks and axle bearings Mount to. Because I've been wanting to do a IRS set up a my buggy that I've been custom building / modifying from a yard cart over the last year using U joints like you did but I plan on using double A arms for the IRS but been trying to figure out the easiest way to make a wheel hub for the axle to slide through that connects to both a arms but may end up just doing single a arm like you did depending on how the video goes of you actually test riding it and how you went about making your setup for the IRS. P. S great videos on this build and breaking down how you Queen about making all this and not making it sound too complicated more or less and layman terms if you will LOL

[@JBRACINGinc]

My plan for the next video is going to be a reveal/driving, and then a build break down after that. The kart is done I just decided to redo the chain tensioner, then I'll knock those videos out. As for your IRS if you are using the u joints the same way I am you have to use single a arm. If you use a double a arm the axle shaft has to be able to get longer and shorter as the suspension travels. That's why a lot of double a arm suspensions have cv shafts, they allow the axle to slide in and out in the joint. PS the kart rips and I haven't had any issues with the suspension

[@MIKEH.777]

Your steering wheel is off a John Deere tractor 👍🏻👍🏻 nice car you built I love it keep up the great work 💯💪🏼🙏🙏

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks bud! The wheel came off a cub cadet but I'm sure they used it on others too.

[@mr.braapalicious]

Pretty cool build. The front spindles are straight if they had around 5 degrees of castor it would help tremendously in having the wheels not turn inward when you jump up and down on the front end. Love the buggy! Awesome.

[@JBRACINGinc]

I put 10 degrees of castor in it and it handles pretty well hardly notice any bump steer.

[@mr.braapalicious]

@@JBRACINGinc I'm sorry it was hard to tell in the video. Really awesome job! Wow factor is next level.

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it

[@regtheveg]

Tastefully done, not over done. Some people start welding and dont stop till it weighs as much as a car & looks like a deformed monster truck 😂👏👏👏👏

[@JBRACINGinc]

I know what you mean lol.

[@hutchdw77]

If you raise the steering arm on the spindle to the same plane as the tie rods at the steering box you’ll correct your bump steer 100%.

[@Russellsperry]

I’m rebuilding my manco dingo right now, but I didn’t ever think about going as far as you. I’m turning in mine into a backup ranch trail rig. 20 years ago it used to go to 71 mph with a v-twin.

[@JBRACINGinc]

Lol I don’t think I’d feel very comfortable going 70 mph with mine

[@Russellsperry]

@@JBRACINGinc I did it on a really smooth road, and it was terrifying! That’s why I’m only putting in a 9 1/2 horse Briggs & Stratton with electric start this time.

[@ians1464]

Cool nice job.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

Given what you said about the current gearing and top speed, the new top speed should be 37.5 with a 14/48T sprocket combo. IMO, I'd go with 15/43 to get a nice 44-45mph top speed, that way you have some overhead and can cruise at 1/2-3/4 max rpm in 3rd gear and be between 22-33mph without wringing your engine to death. Plus you should still have plenty of torque, especially given how the Honda Grom is a similarly weighted vehicle at 125cc and is geared for a 65-ish mph top speed and scoots grown men around just fine (Grom's a 5-speed though).

[@jacksoncooper1283]

Love the build I’m working on one rn similar to yours and looking to put bigger front tires and curious what size you went with

[@JBRACINGinc]

So in that video they’re 16x8 on a 7 inch rim and I always thought they looked a little small so I have been making some changes on it lately and I put a 18x9 on a 8 inch rim on it and that looks perfect

[@user-bz3jg4wd3u]

Encerio necesito ver una prueba de manejo, es muy buen proyecto, felicidades!!

[@JBRACINGinc]

gracias, estoy trabajando para terminar el video de la unidad, tengo que hacer algunos cambios en mi tensor de cadena, esperando tener un video listo en un par de semanas

[@pacman5511]

@@JBRACINGinc nice did u ever update ?

[@jmachado6834]

Looks like a cub cadet lawnmower steering wheel!

[@stuartabbey5195]

I am picking up a dingo February 17th would be awesome to get some pointers from your build

[@ervina.7626]

I wish I had that monster its looks so good

[@goingbonzo5923]

Pretty rad dude! Just wondering if you would need a chain guide?

[@abels_04]

So damn cool.

[@scottraichel4128]

Absolutely awesome,👍, doing the same. I'm using Yamaha blaster front suspension. Like your idea for rear independent. The rear bearing at the wheel, what did you do there? What kinda of plate?Tried to screenshot your video. Thanks for the ideas!

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks, I used 1/4 inch plate and drilled holes in it so the axle bearing could be bolted to it, and made it wide enough so I could weld the a arm to it.

[@fpvtv2222]

Really cool build. Great video. Are you gonna make new content?

[@ciliar.c3425]

Thank you

[@JBRACINGinc]

No problem bud thanks for watching

[@austinm2032]

Great build, I Just picked up a dingo 388-15. What engine did you use again? Thanks

[@JBRACINGinc]

I used a pitster pro 140cc semi auto with reverse. It has plenty of power, it came with a 14 tooth sprocket on the engine and I put a 48 tooth on the axle and I had it up to 43mph

[@swervsmithers3225]

Can we see a close up of that shifter

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

The Chinese manufacturers lie that engine is most likely a 129 cc a lot of online sellers will claim there stuff is larger than it really is to hike up the price or give themselves an edge over the other sellers selling the same engine

[@synshenron798]

See this is what i needed. Its not a build guide but its enough info that I can piece it together and do it the way I wanna do it. I bought a dingo and I LOVE the thing but I want the suspension to be better or even exist at all. Hitting a hill or chuck hole in michigan is hell on earth lemme tell ya. Its terrible. So I want to make this thing a crawler and have some speed to spare. Im putting a 420cc engine on it till I can find a cheapish engine with a gear box

[@JBRACINGinc]

Ya the ride quality can be improved upon for sure lol. I've been running mine and the ride now is amazing 100 times better. Good luck on yours

[@synshenron798]

@@JBRACINGinc thank you much I am having a good time with it as of right now, I just gotta save the money for the shocks and what not. Right now its just the dingo without a cage and a stage 1 predator 212 but hopefully itll be a caged dingo with a 420 and great suspension for a smooth ride

[@M.TTT.]

@@synshenron798 I picked up a dingo "high performance" that came with a factory honda gx390 13hp, can barely find any info on them, but it has good power stock. Few mods should help it, 420 should be awesome

[@kalebr2262]

I wanna build one now

[@kwatt-engineer796]

You could eliminate bump steer by using a solid beam front axle. Full independent double wish bone front suspension is complex and wonderful but has lots of parts to bend break and get out of alignment. Why not avoid all of that and use a simple solid axle with coil overs.

[@Mika-yk7dq]

Nice Video! I have one question though. Where do you get these tires from? I can't seem to find some for myself

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks bud! The back tires are made by wanda but I've had them for a while now so I don't know if they are in stock or not. The fronts are carlisle I got off bmi karts. But I'm also in the process of changing my front wheels to an 8 inch and putting 18x9.5 tires on them and I bought some hi-runs off eBay and they seem to be a good tire and are in stock.

[@nonsensewithjoosh3877]

I have this cart and I actually want to rebuild what you have made

[@ironwill04]

Do you have a video on making the roll bar?

[@shanehunt3936]

I have one that's stock frame. We're would I start adding suspension

[@kevfromnorwichUKGGKev]

niiice build Man... Where did you get the idler sprocket from please ? Peace.

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks bud. I got the idler off of eBay it's a 41 chain 10 tooth

[@scottraichel4128]

Another question, how did you hold your brake and chain sprocket to your small center section axle? Doesn't seem like a set screw or 2 would hold? And what sorta shocks did you use for the rear? Some off a snowmobile?

[@JBRACINGinc]

I used this type of hub for the brake and sprocket. www.bmikarts.com/Multi-Patterned-Aluminum-Sprocket-Hub-1-or-1-14-Bore_p_1389.html they work a lot better then the set screw type, they stay tight and don’t move. The rear shocks are from a zr500 snowmobile

[@ScuffedBoi]

I wish you had links in the description for we can buy the stuff Because I’m building a go kart similar to this and I would like to know what It had to make it easier

[@PunkCoverMoose]

Same. I’m trying to find the engine in pitster with no luck. Really interested in the reverse

[@bikescarsandmore6156]

I wanted to try this set up on my power wheels build, but I have some doubts on the rear, does the bearing on the hub side of the control arm wanna slide on the axel when the suspension compresses?

[@JBRACINGinc]

Good question but no.. as long as the control arm rod ends are in line (on the same axis) with the u joint (like how I showed it in the video) the axle and the arm move the same because they pivot on the same axis and the bearing slipping on the axle would not be possible. Now if you put the u joint ahead or behind the rod ends then they would pivot separately from each other and the the bearing would slip or bind. I hope this makes sense. The kart has taken a good beating and been in 2 wrecks and the suspension has been holding up and working perfectly

[@george_lesage1]

i know this is an old video, but this thing is sick and i’m wanting to do something similar, did you do any front end extensions to fit your feet better? also how tall are you? you seem to fit in it perfectly and was wondering if you lengthened the body to fit yourself

[@JBRACINGinc]

I am 6 feet tall and I definitely added to the frame to fit me better. I want to say it was almost 12 inches best way to do it is cut the frame and pull the front forward and sit it and see where it’s most comfortable for you

[@george_lesage1]

@@JBRACINGinc alright, thanks man!

[@nicolec7290]

I want to see it run

[@supraender]

What kind of welding are you doing for the build? I'm just learning all this stuff and can't tell by looking at it.

[@JBRACINGinc]

I used a mig

[@keatonbeckham5214]

the steering wheel looks like its off a troy bilt riding mower. but most riding mowers are parts bin specials, so who knows how many it was on

[@JBRACINGinc]

Your probably right but it was guessed correctly already as a cub cadet steering wheel

[@SystemHacker23]

Did you use pipes or tubing for the frame?

[@JBRACINGinc]

3/4 inch schedule 40 pipe

[@cedricdeoan1214]

Nice build did you use a blueprint

[@JBRACINGinc]

Thanks.. I did not use a blueprint

[@hectorjauregui3404]

Like it a lot only gas tank get aluminum one would look better

[@Crappie.Fisherman]

Where did you buy the independent rear end axle assembly.

[@JBRACINGinc]

I made everything back there. Check out part one for all the info

[@Crappie.Fisherman]

Ok I will thanks

[@kmt1906]

can you make a list of everything I need to buy to build this? like all the resources

[@JBRACINGinc]

I'll try to get a list together and go over everything in a future vid

[@TheCuttingtorch]

Needs that ZR engine

[@JBRACINGinc]

I’d love to throw some more ponies at it but it’s a big enough death trap the way it is.

[@M.TTT.]

What kind of welder/wire size did you use and what tubing bender?

[@JBRACINGinc]

I have a Eastwood mp250i using .030 mig wire and I used a pipe bender from harbor freight and I have a vid on using that if you want more info

[@M.TTT.]

@@JBRACINGinc Ah nice, I have a hobart handler 140 I inherited with .030, so hopefully that can do the job and lol of course youtube recommends me the pipe bender video right before I see the comment. Appreciate it man, I'll get one of these or use a local shop if they let me.

[@keithdowney7083]

Hello, what are the u joint set ups from on your rear suspension? Thanks!

[@JBRACINGinc]

They are a 1 inch with a 1/4 key way you can find them at a tractor supply or just search "1 inch 1/4 key way u joint" on google if you want to buy them online

[@gregguiol2814]

@@JBRACINGinc how much are they at tractor supply

[@gijake1989]

Why not make it 2 feet longer in the front for a cargo box?

[@kalebr2262]

Did the steering wheel come off of a miata

[@JBRACINGinc]

Nope

[@OwenRozeboom]

This is amazing! Can I please have a link to this engine? The only one I could find was a 110cc. Unless that's what you have? Thanks.

[@JBRACINGinc]

Unfortunately I don’t think they offer that engine anymore

[@OwenRozeboom]

@@JBRACINGinc Ok. Thanks a lot. Are there other brands that would have similar engines?

[@JBRACINGinc]

I haven’t seen any with reverse that are bigger than 125cc. I would check out tboltusa.com they have a lot of engines like the one I got and they are really good to deal with

[@OwenRozeboom]

@@JBRACINGinc Awesome, thank you so much!

[@brandonbarabas4631]

Looks like a late 80s z24 cavalier steering wheel

[@JBRACINGinc]

Nope and it's been guessed correctly already as a cub cadet wheel

[@hectorcorrea8044]

So I plan on doing a suspension job like this .. But the front is something I don't think I would be able to do . would just doing the back be good enough ? I go off roading with a 2 seater streaker.

[@JBRACINGinc]

I'd put suspension on the front otherwise it's going to be a bumpy ride. I also see there's not a whole lot of room on the front of a streaker. So I would say your options are leave the front be or start cutting and make it work. I had a similar problem with my kart I just added the piece to the front of the kart then I had all sorts of room and a little longer wheel base

[@hectorcorrea8044]

@@JBRACINGinc do you have a Facebook or ig. ?

[@JBRACINGinc]

No I don't have anything set up for this channel yet

[@hectorcorrea8044]

@@JBRACINGinc is there a way you can private message me . I have a go kart shop and could use some of those techniques.

[@JBRACINGinc]

Sorry ever since KZbin dropped private chat I don't have anyway to send private messages. If you have questions just ask me in the comments and I'll get back to you.

[@tebibyte2357]

Whatevers on the side of the bore is the ACTUAL size. so its a 150cc

[@chapocanal1727]

What kind of shocks did you use ????

[@JBRACINGinc]

Both are off snowmobiles the front are off an Indy 500 and the rears are arctic cat 550

[@TheSpecializedfsr]

Is the steering wheel from a riding lawn mower?

[@JBRACINGinc]

Yes it is off a cub cadet but someone guessed it before you

[@crazystuff3194]

Where did you get the motor from?

[@JBRACINGinc]

www.pitsterpro.com

[@brockwoodson338]

where did you get your chain tniser from

[@JBRACINGinc]

I just bought a idler sprocket and I made the rest of it.

[@stonepikachu2329]

Hey can I have the design and measurements so I can make the go kart it looks fun

[@duncanw6528]

how much would you estimate your whole suspension job would be

[@JBRACINGinc]

For all the materials and parts for the front and rear I would say around $600

[@joshluper2893]

What cv axles did you use.

[@JBRACINGinc]

I didn’t use cv axles, I used keyed u joints with keyed axle shaft.

[@JoseManuel-lj4dk]

What kind of engine?? cause I got a 150 cc that I would like to exchange the engine on it??

[@JBRACINGinc]

I got it off pitsterpro.com, it is a pitster pro 140 semi auto with reverse

[@friederichfpv2977]

Hi! What would you estimate the total weight of the gocart would be? (Wothout you in it)

[@JBRACINGinc]

I would guess 300 to 350 lbs

[@emangman._.9723]

Hey is there any way to get a blueprint or anything that can help me build that go kart?

[@JBRACINGinc]

Sorry bud I just built this off the top of my head didn’t use any plans.

[@jaredj631]

Steering wheel Is from a playground set

[@JBRACINGinc]

I’m better then that.. lol

[@rang0_5214]

What kind of Go Kart is that?

[@josecfish5297]

For the steering I would I got a used rack and pinion off a junk golf cart

[@forwardsrilanka8390]

You how to make reverse gear?

[@JBRACINGinc]

Reverse is in the engine. It's a pitster pro 140cc semi auto with 3 forward speeds and reverse

[@nicolec7290]

Rock crawler

[@phoenixarizona8441]

Have you taken it to any ATV Parks yet

[@JBRACINGinc]

During the winter I got it titled as a home built utv and where I live you can drive utvs on basically any road or in any city, so I put brake lights and turn signals on it and now I can drive it anywhere

[@phoenixarizona8441]

@@JBRACINGinc that's badass I want to do the same thing with my buggy I have a street legal Joyner Dirt Devil Rail Buggy

[@phoenixarizona8441]

@@JBRACINGinc check out our channel subscribe more videos coming soon

[@somerandomsmile7298]

What engine is this and where can I get it

[@JBRACINGinc]

It’s a pitster pro 140 I got it off pitster pro’s web site. I don’t know if they make them anymore

[@somerandomsmile7298]

@@JBRACINGinc thats a shame but thanks ill try to find one i love you build btw

[@zizonic960]

how necessary is suspension

[@JBRACINGinc]

Extremely

[@audenmaddocks2171]

This is kind of how I'm building mine except mine has a 18 vtwin

[@jesust9782]

already upload a video where you are using it please I am very cool

[@frontleverguy2216]

The tires look really flat

[@JBRACINGinc]

Looks can be deceiving...

[@Will_-oi3hp]

cub cadet lawn mower wheel i think only cuz i have one😂

[@lennym1273]

Front springs are too soft, just your weight was enough to bottom it, And front wheels are too short you want tall tires on the front for easier and better handling, just look at dirt bikes tall front wheel short rear wheel, it not a dragster after all...

[@danielnunez3518]

What ever happened to this thing?

[@RandomPerson-ob1hk]

Yeah I'm watching this video now and so many old comments and ideas 😢