FUTURE Motor Has ARRIVED!? - Dark Matter Raxial

Koenigsegg claims a new motor produces 800 horsepower and 922 lb-ft of torque @ 40 kg. Is it real?!
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[@Dr3v0]

id be skeptical if it was anyone else but koenig

[@CheekiScrubb]

koenig and koenigsegg are two different brands im just putting it out there

[@Copesthetic-Aesthetic]

They didn't invent it. A feller from England did 20 years ago. He tested it at the Isle of Mann TT race. "X01 electric Motorcycle"

[@nighthawk0077]

This is what happens when you actually innovate and develop new technology rather than using essentially an 80 yr old AC induction motor design.

[@Jameskelvin89]

That is because you don't understand technology. If you did you would have been asking why we were not using this way before this moment. You probably do more damage by being skeptical and leading others to not support future technology.

[@Notanotheryoutuberbot]

​@@CheekiScrubb😂

[@wompstopm123]

You can save even more mass and use less windings if you use a simple flux capacitor to enhance the flux capacitance

[@Cynthia_Cantrell]

Yes... but then you start running into serious problems once you reach 88 mph.

[@jweatherly26]

​@Cynthia_Cantrell if you calculate it correctly, you could close in on the coveted zero second quarter mile time.

[@driverjamescopeland]

Duty cycle at maximum advertised output: about 5 seconds Recovery time: AT LEAST 30 minutes

[@magellan35]

Source for this? Also, what can it output continuously/nominally?

[@Luxamor-8]

Recover from what?

[@driverjamescopeland]

@@Luxamor-8 - thermal load

[@Luxamor-8]

@driverjamescopeland water-cooled correct? Why would it then take 30mins to get back to safe operating temp?

[@driverjamescopeland]

@Phariseehunter - not necessarily safe operating temp... but full dissipate the thermals, without the help of ancillary cooling. I'm sure the motor is plumbed for the latter... but that's still a ton of power from a considerably small mass. I can't imagine it surviving many of those pulls in any reasonable succession with the copper windings they show in their video.

[@mikemcconnell2794]

As far as I understand it, one of the problems with an axial flux motor is that when you apply power to it it can turn in either direction. A radial flux motor on the other hand will turn in the direction that the power dictates. That's probably why the radial flux motor has been in production for these past 100-plus years. It's a very novel idea to incorporate the radial flux motor into the axial flux motor. That's also how their quark motor works. That motor is used in their Regera. I think it's about 330 hp. Sounds like dark matter is the big brother.

[@dagadagad]

Nope. You can dictate the direction in both.

[@DeLambada]

With the yokeless design windings are easier to manufacture but with the yoke design stator cores are much easier to produce (they can be wound as well).

[@ag135i]

Maybe axial flux motors can also work in flying machines improving performance and efficiency, we are surrounded by motors in mixer, blender, trimmers, washing machine, fans, coolers, AC's power windows, wipers, drilling machines, and many more.

[@ferrumignis]

Anything that reduces weight will help, but battery energy density is still the fundamental limiting problem for electric flight.

[@hansjmo]

You lost me at room temperature superconducting motor, I agree it is really cool, but I don't think it will happen in 30-50 years sadly, unless we get some insane software with quantum computers that can explore all possible crystals and probe their properties soon :D to be able to deal with the temperatures and the current densities, you would need a critical temperature at probably 100-200C above room temp. so Tc=400K-500K. :D At the moment it's still the cuprates that are leading the charge at about 150K without adding insane pressure in diamond anvills. it's a dreamy scenario, but Little has a theory of quasi-one-dimensional quasi-periodic metal chains that could be a clue to achieve room temperature, but at what practical use will a quasi-one-dimensional system have?

[@falcosparverius1]

High amps + small mass with no water cooling = useless burnt out windings in short order.

[@harolddeyoung8642]

Uhhh... then how or why did they use them in hypercars? Under continuous loads... ??

[@rand49er]

Simulating these various designs would seem to be a huge savings in money and time but a big effort on the design engineer's part. The manufacturing engineers would have to fully on board with it. A prototype would be proof of a design's capability. All in all a very exciting time to be a designer and to be an observer like me. Thanks for the video!

[@krakhedd]

I think axial flux hub kits for converting older cars to electric will be hugely popular, especially if they can replace the brake assemblies

[@drakemia4079]

I agree

[@UltimateTechGuru]

Slowly it will, and the brakes will move in place of the differential gearbox, ie., onboard & center as regenerative braking will do the most work.

[@edwincolon7782]

Too much weight will make the suspension suck but you can program it out with active suspension.

[@drakemia4079]

@@edwincolon7782 that’s a great think .

[@bismuth7730]

lol no it wont.

[@Dr.Cr0w]

I want the windless model. Where they use graphite "mounds" all over the same path as the copper. More surface area, more torque, less weight. Might work just a thought.

[@id104335409]

First: why has noone disected their motor yet? Is it unobtainable? Second: when are we going to finally see these new types of motors in real life? Yassa has been making them for years and only recently has been bought by Mercedes. But what? Noone else? No new vehicles using similar motors? Not even Tesla?

[@user-ue2xl1fd3b]

You mentioned at 5:15 that Unimelt 6K can 3D print but as far as I can tell it cant - its a technology for producing highly regular powder materials, very efficiently, for additive manufacturing and other applications

[@victoryfirst2878]

The part that I like is the is that technology moves forward. But I still recall that complexity does not necessarily mean mass production. Informative video Tech Planet !!!!

[@ddnn1142]

We are literally experiencing a revolution where internal combustion engines becoming horse carriages.

[@ct1762]

when batteries are so heavy and 3.5-4x less energy dense than liquid fuels, no lol. not even close. EV's are antiquated tech. the control systems on modern ICE engines are just as advanced as any EV.

[@bojanglesobrien6883]

@@ct1762are you keeping up with ongoing research and new proofs in the energy storage industry? We absolutely are going to see internal combustion become comparable to horse power.

[@ct1762]

@@bojanglesobrien6883yes i have been. and everything is "just around the corner". ask yourself this: is it really possible batteries can be nearly as energy dense as gasoline/fossil fuels? the answer, dictated by the laws of thermodynamics, say no not even close. 1000 lbs of battery can barley be equal to 200 lbs of fuel .

[@ct1762]

@@bojanglesobrien6883yes and again, the next hot battery has been just around the corner for 50 years. even if it gets 50% more power dense, you are still lugging a heavy battery around empty or full

[@zenyachty8999]

No

[@Chris-vx5kp]

I keep seeing this type motor talked about, yet I have yet to see one move a vehicle.

[@harolddeyoung8642]

A 100 hp axial flux motor might be light enough to be incorporated into a hub/wheel design. The issue of the "unsprung" weight, that is usually pointed to as a big issue... might be overcome by the ultra light weight design. Eliminating the axles, differential, etc. Also... the possibilities of incorporating this into the hybrid design... to do the heavy pulling /acceleration.. The market would go crazy for a 500 hp hybrid truck, that got 56 MPG. Ford / Chevy... are you listening?

[@sel7245]

Once had an RC boat with 2 TP motors (inrunners). They each put out 21,5 V x 270 A = 5800 W at peak power. At 715 G each. It would be equivalent to 323 Kw or 439 HP at 88 lbs..So 800 HP is insane. Especially if you consider that it needs to have a lifespan longer then a few hours.

[@Pyroteknikid]

Just a couple of steroid-pumped super hamsters on a wheel inside the case.

[@dra6o0n]

Whenever something new that revolutionizes tech, it's always set at a high price. New gadgets or tech, pharmaceutical that cures cancers, etc.

[@CSLFiero]

axial motors have low rpm thresholds which mean that compact size is offset by the typically necessary gearbox which radial motors simply don't need. I don't know what it means to be a "raxial" motor, but if it means an axial that can rev up to 20k without melting, then I'd say they've cracked the code.

[@Luxamor-8]

Why the need for 20k revs that would be approx 20:1 to wheels?

[@CSLFiero]

@@Luxamor-8 so you can achieve the torque people want without capping top speed to 60mph. that's why tesla uses radial motors and axial motors are more likely to be used as a torque-fill on a gasoline engine transmission, around where you would typically find the torque converter on an automatic trans.

[@Luxamor-8]

@CSLFiero thanks why not employ star/delta configurable in the inverter drive could give approx 1.7x electronic gearing, so dropping down revs at high speeds?

[@riqpate7122]

High tech motors are great but we're missing huge gains in efficiency by not applying basic mechanics to the loads. So long as loads are driven In-line whether it's car or tractor wheels, pumps or fans, we're missing whole unit reductions in required force.

[@maneatingduck]

Nice video, thanks :) Admittedly I don't follow electrical motor tech closely, but I haven't even heard of this approach. Fascinating!

[@Copesthetic-Aesthetic]

Was actually invented 20 years ago. KZbin video...... "TTXGP - Agni XO1 electric Motorcycle - Isle of Mann TT" The feller that invented, and developed it is wearing a green sweatshirt, and flip flops.

[@cameraderie2328]

Not - to me - a very exciting drive mechanism, but now you've introduced a game changer - yoke less! I look forward to continuing updates on this fascinating technology! Well-done and nicely presented.

[@drakemia4079]

I agree

[@watchthe1369]

Axial flux in aviation, where power/weight is at a premium? How efficient is it, would the batteries feeding it in aviation drain faster, ruining the weight/power benefit?

[@ferrumignis]

Radial flux motors are already very efficient so there are little gains to be made here. Weight and space reduction are the primary benefits.

[@SirShameless]

The efficiency of a motor isn't the issue, electric motors are still far more efficient than any internal combustion engine. Your even if your best case scenario motor set up was magically 100% efficient, we don't have a battery pack available right now that can hold a candle to a petrol burning engine at 30-50% efficiency, simply due to the energy density of the fuel used. Even at that level of efficiency, we can pack more punch in liquid fuel for a longer duration than a battery pack for a comparable flight range. Our battery technology is nowhere near mature enough to be competitive.

[@Derpy1969]

“Many companies are going to a yokeless design. “ Name them.

[@phatmeow7764]

if i had to guess just like Quark, those are peak power/torque that it could output like over 30 seconds? what is its continuous power/torque rating?

[@mb-3faze]

The lower rpm of the axial flux motor makes sense for automotive applications. The early Tesla motors ran at 20,000+ rpm and they required gearing, obviously. The 9000rpm of the axial flux motor will make implementation somewhat easier (I assume).

[@larrysorenson4789]

Must be created simultaneously with battery technological breakthroughs. For instance will research prove that the battery or many smaller batteries can actually become components of the motor statir?

[@danfg7215]

Next up in hype-named innovations: the God Particle Motor

[@skywatcher369]

I see a very bright future with this new motor! I definitely need one for a future build

[@beachbarlouie]

Good information but the background music is distraction. You don't need it. Or partition KZbin to create a mute background button.

[@Copesthetic-Aesthetic]

Future motor actually arrived about 15 years ago. The gentleman who invented it, tested it at the Isle of Mann TT race. He had two of them mounted on a motorcycle.

[@BienestarMutuo]

Where we can find more information about that?

[@magellan35]

Are you thinking of the Agni motor? Motoczysz?

[@Copesthetic-Aesthetic]

@@BienestarMutuo KZbin video...... "TTXGP - Agni XO1 electric Motorcycle - Isle of Mann TT"

[@Copesthetic-Aesthetic]

@@magellan35 KZbin video...... "TTXGP - Agni XO1 electric Motorcycle - Isle of Mann TT"

[@magellan35]

@@Copesthetic-Aesthetic Yes, that motor was invented by Cedric Lynch and then manufactured in India by Agni. It was decent but was a brushed motor. Apparently they now have a brushless motor, but it's hard to get info about it.

[@josephfbuck]

I don't see why Koenigsegg didn't go ahead and simply implant that motor directly into the wheel hubs no cutting horsepower directly to the wheel no crankshaft no Center links to get that full 800 horses per wheel and that way they could focus more on getting the airfoil correctly breaking that speed barrier

[@mundymorningreport3137]

Thank you for the peek at what is being acted on with innovators of motor development. It still has not addressed the full potential of induction driven machines. With Tesla's bifilar induction windings, he introduced effective high amperage capacitors into his induction power production machines that effectively enabled the phase shifting of current/magnetism reactive power (self-commutating motors without Lens's law resistance) Naturally this is a designed resonance factor for both generators and motors, giving sweet-spot rpms that require less (even zero) input energy to run (eliminating the need for batteries and recharging: the bane of e-vehicles). This is not super expensive-exotic technology, but is economically disruptive as well as planetary-wide healing/life-saving easily migrated into AC motors of all kinds. It is the end of creating energy by burning matter (consumption). Eventually all the world governments will have to cooperate to save the planet from big-oil's destruction. Party on, be good to each other.

[@sadiqbatureshehu457]

This is great! Looking forward to more.

[@joshuacaylor881]

Thought provoking. Manufacturing techniques are evolving so quickly

[@SushikiIIer]

axial flux motors have been around a while, there are a lot of 3d printing guys making them. The real issue with ALL high power electric motors isnt the mechanical engineering its the electrical engineering. Your talking about a minimum of 800V @ 750 amps to get your 800hp (about 600Kw) and thats assuming 100% efficiency which isnt really a thing (probably 90-97% + mechanichal linkage losses). What that means is that your driver board needs to deliver the equivelant energy of 331 household 120v/15amp (or about 82 240v/30amp) circut breakers at full load simultaneously...... so say hello to only the manufacturer being able to work on the vehicle & since the cell packs are almost always (assembelies including the pos sense & driver boards) say hello to a battery assembly half the cost of an average US home.

[@user-ec8jo2gx9d]

Very cool and powerful motors and everything, but energy storage like the battery's we have now still lag behind these motors for decades

[@user-cj2lk5pz4s]

don't forget maximum range of 5 miles at full battery.

[@user-zu3dh7lu9r]

I agree with you. You won't see this on a Toyota assembly line because Toyota wants to produce it's Hydrogen Combustion Engine.

[@incandescentwithrage]

You won't see it on any production line because it's not viable.

[@larry785]

What we need is a 20 horsepower motor that weighs 2 pounds.

[@tjkj-om9oi]

Castle Creations has there 2028 motors that are 2.75lbs and with the there matching XLX2 ESC on 8S lipo(33.6 volts) can max out at 20-25hp

[@rod3134]

This is all wonderful, but until the power source is developed in the same compact, robust, quick charging way, all else will be for naught. A Thorium battery may be the answer, as long as we can get past the ultra greenie kooks 😊

[@phoenixrising7047]

Hail Thorium!

[@oldfarthacks]

Now that's a thought, a room temp radial / axial motor. Fun

[@kr6dr]

Maybe Mike Patey will put one of these motors on a bush plane to set a new short take off and landing record.

[@busterhyman103]

Well Done: Clear, concise up to date interesting information. ( south Florida )

[@blakeuhl8731]

Do you think these come in a small block bolt pattern to go between my 5.3 and 4l60? I want to augment my gas mileage

[@vinylcabasse]

would love to see retrofit kits for things like this. for me, i'd love to add one to my toyota 86 to give the weak FA20 more power (but keep everything else stock, including the stick shift) without doing something to reduce reliability like forced induction would.

[@alexharvey9721]

Have thought about super conducting coils for a while but you're the first person I've seen mention it. It might seem elaborate, but superconducting materials are becoming cheaper and more available while also becoming more suited to these kind of commercial applications (higher temperature, more durable and shock resistant etc). It would mean the engine could be so small and power dense that it might even be able to be made for a reasonable price.

[@xilw3r]

Mate there are tons of people talking about it... Also google Festo SupraMotor

[@ickorling7328]

Impulse current of fast enough slew rate creates super conductivity in average conductors

[@ELECTRICMOTOCROSSMACHINE]

Higher volts, less amps, less heat= more power.

[@machdaddy6451]

Based on Koenigsegg's past success, I would trust his engineering choices.

[@stevendavis6157]

What success?

[@boostoshi]

I've been telling people about this design. It's revolutionary, and I hope it becomes mainstream.

[@Alfahippie]

The first cars were electric, imagine where we would be today if they had held on to that idea.

[@qno-oj3py]

There is a reason they disappeared.

[@Alfahippie]

@@qno-oj3py Yes, greedy oil companies. It’s not a very good reason.

[@lmedia5668]

I am really curious about the possibiity of using this concept for turbine generators instead of motors. Would it yield more energy or would it need more physical energy to rotate the blades?

[@Buran01]

Mercedes Benz already has axial motor prototypes and is planning tou use them in their cars. Chances are that over time it would be more used that the conventional ones, specially in high perfiormance cars.

[@gitfoad8032]

The future is the 2CV.

[@everettstormy]

Agreed

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

Did you know a horse can supply around 15 horsepower? A human can make one horsepower. Hrsprrs.

[@everettstormy]

@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n a pro cyclist can make around 1000 watts that's about 1.5 hrsprs

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

@@everettstormy Usain Bolt can generate just over 2600 watts (briefly) or 3.4 hrsprs

[@zudukaiKilo44]

what can we fill the copper tubes with to increase the conductivity?

[@davidhunternyc1]

I would love to put this motor in my 1968 Volkswagen Beetle.

[@user-nu6tp2cc5d]

Yeah right. Like so many other things that never get to the market.

[@calvinwong7406]

Thanks for your video 👍✨✨. Nice information

[@user-fc8rt5cz6w]

Hello I would like to change my car into hybrid car so how a price to pay for 2 motor 13 inch

[@wompstopm123]

axial flux motors done wrong are induction smelters

[@Kwago1]

You guys should really stick to the traditional torque to weight ratio. It will alleviate heat emissions if you have an aerodynamic interior dispension body design. And I will ride for years.

[@flyinfilm90]

Koenig is unsuppressing suppressed tech... Its that simple

[@jeffbertuleit5848]

That much power, to good to be true or for how many seconds?

[@Revengilate]

I wonder if koenig would sell this separately for tuners

[@Dis-Emboweled]

Well, freevalve was a smashing success! 🤣🤪

[@catchnkill]

The Gemera car has not been in production yet. The company claimed in PR material that it will start production at late 2024. The car will reach customer in 2025! It is not a smashing sucess. I smell failure here. Delay after delay after delay ...

[@professormadlad7773]

With me I do like Hybrid Cars better then Fully Electric Cars.

[@DailyFrankPeter]

And it's clearly designed by the same mad person as the Event Horizon.

[@mrlarrybobjr]

Cool but with the batteries we have wouldn’t that make the range of a vehicle like 4 miles?

[@russelljohnson6243]

Dark matter motor huh... Such a dubious statement indeed.

[@JustinCrediblename]

great video. thank you for doing this research

[@frankaudi00]

Dark matter motor? Really? This world aggregates me more and more each day

[@mikeshramko8331]

Were can I purchase the kit you mentioned at 1:45?

[@richardbonn3882]

Ok , The energy source, IS what is most important ! ?

[@stupitdog9686]

Perhaps you could do this again in "layman" ............

[@densleyodigie7542]

where can you buy that kit?

[@Telencephelon]

Please demonstrate stuff. A bit like actionlab. That would be so cool. I like your channel. None of the videclips and AI script high throughput BS videos of which there are so many on YT

[@Tech_Planet]

Thanks, I do a little bit, actually actionlab borrowed my ferrofluid/superconductor experiment heh, but I don't mind, I get ideas from him as well.

[@metalsteel5631]

looks like it will cost a fortune to fix

[@KarasCyborg]

How many hours will the motor last. That needs to be discussed first front and center.

[@Tech_Planet]

This is true, power density is not incorporating time intervals or heat dissipation.

[@Ozzy3333333]

Awesome, thanks for sharing.

[@Japanimepop]

will be interesting to see how it will be implemented

[@hallep9]

So its a cedric lynch motor,forgotten hero.

[@toi_techno]

Automobiles will all have in-wheel motors eventually It's ridiculous that this evolution is being resisted at the moment and we are still wasting resources making pointless drive trains

[@sumofbitch]

Circular limitations. Liner ray guns go boom. What's the problem?

[@Kx0195]

Imagine an electric scooter with one of these. Maybe even 2 🤣😭 go kart would be insane

[@merouchecharaf7177]

oui se nouveau moteur pour voiture peut fonctionner

[@donkramer8848]

I want one in a go kart

[@user-sg4pp7oh9g]

tem como campo mágico repelir aspterides

[@nick0lasj0nes73]

I invented this 15 years ago. Shoulda, woulda coulda.... sigh

[@residuejunkie4321]

*Do a search for '300hp ambient heat free energy engine'. It has one moving part, a flywheel which turns at 30,000+rpm and can run on the heat from a road or roof of a house. They are having workshops for helping people build them.*

[@relicboxing]

That's fake af

[@veteran687]

I often wonder about the marrying of the axial motor to the axial generator and someone much smarter than I make them power themselves and produce extra energy ?

[@Cynthia_Cantrell]

No. You can't break the laws of physics and make a perpetual motion machine.

[@tomrogers9467]

@@Cynthia_Cantrell. Wrong. You’ve never heard my wife chew me out.

[@appv12]

couldnt you stack multiple on a common shaft?

[@XDrippingxXBlood]

I wanna put this in a gokart!!!

[@kurtdobson]

Just add another 1200 lbs for a battery...

[@joebrenner4428]

Got YBCO?

[@jbchoc]

I love this channel.

[@pieteri.duplessis]

Exciting, to say the least.

[@mrhassell]

there is a voice in there somewhere...

[@markblackman2542]

Petrol smells better tho

[@priyah.jain11]

Bro, Aren't you 6 months late in reporting this.