Jean-François Lyotard: Why Philosophize?

[@mervijaakola1749]

I really hope you get healthy , wishing you speedy and full recovery 🙏 Thank you for this interesting video! The last quote especially caught my attention. Subconscious tries to message us what changes are already on their way. I don't know if this has anything to do with the video, but when you talked about "the truth", it made me think of very basic everyday things. The world is dissociated in my opinion: verbal communication is very old, words are very old and words have developed long time ago. In history, peoples's life was simple. I assume they collected food , built shelters and other important things. That's when language described those simple things. On the other hand, these days we do work in order to earn a permission to exist: we pay taxes, we have to buy everything and nothing is free. But that does not contribute to survival at all. We still have to do the real work which is: to get food, to cook food, find a shelter where to stay and to do other things necessary for life itself. So, actually these days we have two jobs. We use old words but the behaviour is new. There is big dissociation between old words and new behaviour. They do not match. It is a kind of sleight of hand -trick. But this is just my opinion. World is so absurd and words do not mean what they originally did.

[@DavoodGozli]

Thanks a lot for your well wishes. I think your description can fit into the discussion. We should, of course, be careful not to idealize the so-called “primitive” forms of life. Moreover, your point brings to mind the idea of cultural evolution and the evolution of language. You seem to suggest that language may not evolve beyond a certain point to match our forms of life. Interesting thought!

[@mervijaakola1749]

@@DavoodGozli thank you for the reply! Yes , definitely I don't want to idealize the primitive!! I really do not know if languages matches our life style. That is what is really wonder. I know nothing about philosophy, so maybe my thoughts are overly simplistic.

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

In some sense, the threads must be connected together through language association and (teaching/learning)... I guess even if it isn't explicitly assembled or labeled as such. The master slave dialectic for lack of better terms...

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

The child mind first creates its own "system" of interpretation while being imprinted by the surrounding culture. Then, that internal "language" begins to take shape as experience allows some semblance of order to come to connecting the child mind to the imprinted culture (material dialectic). Finally, through hard work and the trade-off of certain opportunities, the child mind can be dismantled and replaced with a modern adult mind. But you can't dismantle the child mind without using the child mind to create the framework of the new adult mind. This is the beginning of self, not the end. The transition point. But the opposite of the hard work of becoming is self coddling. The slipping back into the safety of the languageless identityless emotional state of the early child mind. This, in my opinion, is the beginning of existentialism, and therfore spirituality and religion, or even radicalism. One group seeks to alleviate not knowing, and the other group seeks to alleviate having to know. Both tend towards seeking and dogmatic behaviors. However, behavioralism, as in rigorous standardization, should not be thought of as dogma and shouldn't be worshipped like a higher power either. It is merely the language that we know we can be in agreement over. The beginning of the conversation, not the end-all-be-all. The knowing that must exist to understand how to impart useful learning upon others without a confident way of knowing how to tell that you have succeeded, other than by checking in real world opportunity, is... It's probably rare... What is lacking is that understanding.

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

If materialism is all that matters, why did Marx spend his time doing philosophy... unless he imagined his ideas would create some material difference in the future??? Meaning ideas do matter.

[@TAiCkIne-TOrESIve]

Because of suffering.

[@lilymulugeta6824]

Awww get better dear

[@DavoodGozli]

Thank you-I appreciate your concern :-)