Jean learns how Marco died

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Benn

Benn

Күн бұрын

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@benn6086
@benn6086 Жыл бұрын
Stop subscribing. I'm never uploading again.
@mohdziyad9151
@mohdziyad9151 Жыл бұрын
Why
@twistedgale
@twistedgale Жыл бұрын
Good riddance
@TheDomino12121
@TheDomino12121 Жыл бұрын
you got to carry that weight. The weight of 212 subscribers
@benn6086
@benn6086 Жыл бұрын
This is is honestly depressing and an outrage. They just won't stop subbing.@@TheDomino12121
@johnpeters6147
@johnpeters6147 Жыл бұрын
Reverse psychology worked, subbed
@vanilla_gunpowder7275
@vanilla_gunpowder7275 Жыл бұрын
In most anime after a character dies, they grief for a moment and then they completely forget them and never mention them again. However in aot, you can see that death of side character from season 1 is still relevant even in the final episodes of the series. I love how human aot is.
@nxul
@nxul Жыл бұрын
What about the Levi squad that Annie killed?
@Distress.
@Distress. Жыл бұрын
​@@nxulthey appear multiple times as ghosts to levi.
@sehhmie5483
@sehhmie5483 Жыл бұрын
Wonder what kinda anime you watchin instead being scizophrenic and having imaginary
@rancor4513
@rancor4513 Жыл бұрын
​@nxul levi never forgave annie, but levi was always more to the stoic side so thats prob why he never confronted her, he also found reconciliation at the end when he saw the ghosts of his comrades
@KILLERMANGO-mi1cx
@KILLERMANGO-mi1cx Жыл бұрын
​@Distress. Not to mention, Levi never said goodbye to Annie in the port becuase he remembered what she did to them
@UltimateRavens_Fan
@UltimateRavens_Fan Жыл бұрын
Remember Jean found Marco’s dead body so he was extra traumatized
@dhoomed92
@dhoomed92 Жыл бұрын
Actually Jean and Marco is kind of close friend. So yes, Jean is very traumatized.
@sevendeadlysinsandfriends3581
@sevendeadlysinsandfriends3581 Жыл бұрын
@@dhoomed92 not only theyre close friend but marco is the first to acknowledge jean's judgement and leadership
@Akash-jz2vf
@Akash-jz2vf Жыл бұрын
Marco was also his best friend.
@TwelviSC
@TwelviSC Жыл бұрын
technically he only found half of it
@operez1990
@operez1990 Жыл бұрын
Clarification: He was the one to identify Marco.
@mrbrn20
@mrbrn20 Жыл бұрын
That's deep writing...even after hearing the truth from Reiner, Jean was able to swallow his anger and continue the process of reconciliation. But once Reiner began apologizing and wallowing in guilt, only then did Jean lose control of himself and fly into a rage
@LhLeo
@LhLeo Жыл бұрын
Even better because Reiner can heal and he basically wants the beat up himself, Jean did a big favor and that only ended up he’s the hurt one
@spardaa_
@spardaa_ Жыл бұрын
it's not that deep
@Karuiko
@Karuiko Жыл бұрын
I still don't quite understand Jean here. Did he hate the fact that Reiner felt bad?
@Siddios
@Siddios Жыл бұрын
@@Karuiko It's hard to put into words. He literally wanted nothing more of Reiner to hear, especially not how bad he felt for doing it because he (wrongly) interprets it as an attempt to rid himself of the guilt of killing Marco. For Reiner, it's a genuine confession and he wants to be punished. But for Jean, those reasons sound like cheap excuses.
@catsozen
@catsozen Жыл бұрын
​@@Karuiko​ Jean is basically saying "do you think you can get away with this by just saying you're sorry!?" He was already seething when Reiner started playing the victim, but that "I'm sorry" just sends him. To him, Reiner should own his actions and carry that burden of guilt, while redeeming himself by doing the right thing. Instead he just had to add that part about killing the titan that kills Marco as if it absolves his sin even for a bit, and then has the gall to ask for forgiveness from Jean. It was rock bottom pathetic for Reiner to act that way.
@ash.julie_
@ash.julie_ 2 жыл бұрын
Just by the small fight scene you could see how much Marcos death stuck with him 😭
@bluecrown8956
@bluecrown8956 Жыл бұрын
The Philippines would a Marcos death
@ryanlee9150
@ryanlee9150 Жыл бұрын
*stuck 😅
@ash.julie_
@ash.julie_ Жыл бұрын
@@ryanlee9150 HELP I JUST NOTICED THAT?
@eliteplayer3881
@eliteplayer3881 Жыл бұрын
​@@ash.julie_press the 3 dots at the top right of the comment, then press edit and fix that mistake
@Roga_Skits
@Roga_Skits Жыл бұрын
​@@eliteplayer3881I wish I knew what it originally said. Lol
@gigacanno750
@gigacanno750 Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised Jean held it together as long as he did
@rivaille5361
@rivaille5361 Жыл бұрын
even told reiner to shut the fuck up on multiple warnings but he kept going
@defaultname7685
@defaultname7685 Жыл бұрын
Natural born leader man
@SenukaChandivTennakoon-ti3ym
@SenukaChandivTennakoon-ti3ym 4 ай бұрын
Reiner gets karma in th end😂😂😂😂😂
@blacky8987
@blacky8987 4 ай бұрын
i would fkng blast rainer an annie for that fucc them eren is going to let us win so we dont need them
@nicholaskun604
@nicholaskun604 2 ай бұрын
@@SenukaChandivTennakoon-ti3ym Nothing funny about it
@metal6948
@metal6948 Жыл бұрын
I like how this show isn't afraid to look ugly. None of them look overly beautified, and their expressions aren't glamorous. The characters often show off a look of pure uninhibited rage, their face ugly, contorted, and harsh, how anger is supposed to look, not glorious or intriguing, just raw and animalistic rage and trauma portrayed in the most authentic way I've seen in an anime.
@tomaspabon2484
@tomaspabon2484 8 ай бұрын
I was surprised by how sloppy Jean's punches are, none of them land cleanly after the first two. His wrists are bent and the angles are awkward, some hammerfists thrown in. He's just battering Reiner. Very realistic.
@Evyy_draws
@Evyy_draws 6 ай бұрын
Honestly so true. I hate it when they have to make a literal scene of a guy pummeling the life out of a mentally unstable guy all perfect and flawless
@FuckYoutube-wf1wh
@FuckYoutube-wf1wh 2 ай бұрын
Damn you aot are straight retarded
@kiwiana6190
@kiwiana6190 Жыл бұрын
I understand why Jean snapped. It’s one thing someone killed your friend, it’s another thing someone killed your friend and then they feel guilty about it. Reiner doesn’t get to be sorry or feel guilty because he made that cruel decision. It was already bad enough that Marco was killed, but the fact that Reiner started feeling sorry for himself, he indirectly made the situation about himself instead of Marco, the actual victim. He took accountability but then turned around to self-loathe.
@Athrun82
@Athrun82 10 ай бұрын
And it wasn't the first time. When they took Eren through the forest Reiner started talking about what reward nhe might get until Eren snapped and yelled at him which made Reiner suddenly realize what he was doing which then led Eren to yell even more especially the "You two created the hell we are living in right now, you have no right to feel sorry for yourself!" then followed up by the ice cold "One day I am going to make you pay and it's gonna hurt"
@randomusername3873
@randomusername3873 8 ай бұрын
Reiner didn't kill marco Annie did Why is she getting away with it?
@AuroraBoost
@AuroraBoost 8 ай бұрын
​@randomusername3873 true, i find it baffling that people just forgive Annie like nothing but everytime someone mentions that the fans suddenly say "muh you just dont understand great writing!"
@MachinaOwl
@MachinaOwl 7 ай бұрын
@@AuroraBoost People forgive Annie? I don't see that very often lol. I think most of us know how cold she was in S2.
@Momoyue
@Momoyue 7 ай бұрын
@@MachinaOwl Really? I rarely see anyone blame Annie. Most are super forgiving and like to use the excuse that she was a victim of circumstance brought about by her father and Marley. While it not entirely untrue, Annie was far from just a helpless victim. She was pretty cold blooded and that's what made her such a great antagonist in the beginning. Reiner and Bertholdt's stories were done so well, but I'm disappointed that Annie basically got off with just a slap on the wrist. She never got any punishment for all the soldiers she killed. She appears like the regrets her actions, yet at the same she admitted that she didn't regret what she did. She got to reunite with her dad and even got a boyfriend out of the deal. I see some say that her time in the crystal was her punishment, but she was safe that whole time and even had Armin and Hitch talking to her. Reiner basically shouldered all of the blame. Annie should have at least had some punishment.
@CosmicTroubles
@CosmicTroubles 6 ай бұрын
Reiner: Don’t forgive me Also Reiner: I’m sorry No wonder Jean snapped
@Rahim103.5
@Rahim103.5 Ай бұрын
What episode is this?
@flaxercraft
@flaxercraft Ай бұрын
​@@Rahim103.5 Episode 84
@Leahhhh_makesmehappy
@Leahhhh_makesmehappy 12 күн бұрын
@@Rahim103.5season 4 part 2 episode 9
@jambott5520
@jambott5520 Жыл бұрын
One of the best things about attack on titan is that both jean and marco were nobodies. Nothing side characters that got as much screentime as a miriad of other side characters, expected to be fodder. Yet jean lived, jean became something. If the story went slightly differently, could the same not have happened with marco, or the rest of the side cast? The feeling of the world being apathetic towards who lives and who dies is something great about the show.
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and Jean lived and got with Mikasa ITS CANON I’ve should’ve realized this back in season 1 you have really beautiful long black hair lol
@sarubet8725
@sarubet8725 Жыл бұрын
wrong
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 Жыл бұрын
@@Smoothkiller358 not with my upcoming ending ASSHOLE heheh 😁
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003
@thatjrpganimefanplayerjusi8003 Жыл бұрын
@@Smoothkiller358 oh yeah and who fault is that hmm you E X M Mofos make me sick congratulations on destroying a well written have fun until the nukes come for all of ya I won’t feel bad for any of you 😁🔥
@kashrimu6148
@kashrimu6148 Жыл бұрын
@@sarubet8725jean could cook but eren can’t?
@MarcoAdventures
@MarcoAdventures Жыл бұрын
I cant believe Hajime Isayama would write such a good story that it makes me want to do what Jean did here, and many other things.
@t10n0hnjevkul4
@t10n0hnjevkul4 Жыл бұрын
Bro?
@agasueoeoepp
@agasueoeoepp Жыл бұрын
Real
@kittencomicslol
@kittencomicslol Жыл бұрын
Reall
@muslimgigachad1
@muslimgigachad1 Жыл бұрын
Real
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 Жыл бұрын
Thing is... I still have a soft spot for Reiner 😓
@dumdummcstupid2414
@dumdummcstupid2414 Жыл бұрын
Jean got pissed because Reiner acknowledged what he did was wrong and then instead of just letting it rest turned it into a personal pity party for how terrible of a person he was. He took a moment that should have been about mourning the senseless loss of Marco and *(intentionally or not)* made it about himself.
@cyanidespaceman
@cyanidespaceman 7 ай бұрын
I think this helps add more depth to Reiner as well - having transitioned through a younger phase in my life where I acted like Reiner in that scene without realizing it, towards realizing it, towards realizing how to deal with people who are unaware of doing this with empathy. That potential for growth, and the understanding of the need for empathy, is shown through the accidentally kicking of Gabby, who is also guilty of terrible crimes, but is held with a more empathetic regard due to her age and gender. That juxtaposition lays bare the lack of difference - Yes, Reiner is currently fumbling about, but his guilt, and the awful circumstances that lead him to those actions, are entirely real, valid, and need to be dealt with. We're seeing him actively deal with them and try to be better - with limited, but real, success.
@claudiafilipa423
@claudiafilipa423 4 ай бұрын
​@@cyanidespacemanWhat do you mean by realising how to deal with people who are unaware of doing this with empathy?
@claudiafilipa423
@claudiafilipa423 4 ай бұрын
From what I've understood, Reiner tried to say that although he killed Marco, he didn't want to, he was forced to. Hence the guilt. Is it self pity?
@fighterdurden
@fighterdurden Ай бұрын
Exactly. He was being selfish about the matter.
@confusedhamster2826
@confusedhamster2826 Жыл бұрын
imagine what Levi felt in that situation knowing anie was also there.
@cloudy5115
@cloudy5115 Жыл бұрын
But annie isn’t one to talk much or maybe she would and say she sorry but Levi is an adult tho there’s big difference while she,Reiner& Jean are same gen so as former friends or war buddies ofc jean would reasonably be mad
@Atticus-Catnipp
@Atticus-Catnipp Жыл бұрын
​@@cloudy5115true, while I think Levi also would have something to say yet he as the older one held it back
@samwilson4597
@samwilson4597 Жыл бұрын
@@cloudy5115 One of the things I hate about the end is how they pretend like Annie didn't kill 100s of people. she deserves to get her ass beat more than Reiner, they letting her off the hook because she's a girl
@rebertosmith9524
@rebertosmith9524 Жыл бұрын
levi dint have a hint of anger, great writting btw
@VictorIV0310
@VictorIV0310 Жыл бұрын
The simple fact of the matter is that Levi is usually the most level headed person in the room. He wouldn't prioritize his own personal vendetta over getting the important shit done. In this case, even if he wasn't injured, what purpose would killing Annie serve? Avenging his comrades who died in battle? They were soldiers in a regiment where the vast majority usually die terribly. That was always a risk and Levi isn't naive enough to have not understood that. Annie was carrying out a mission, there was nothing personal involved. As wrathful as he was over his OG squad's deaths, he was out the second the objective was complete and we never heard him talk of revenge for his squad in the aftermath. Why would Levi then choose to make it personal, years later? That's childish and it usually isn't Levi. Annie is a highly skilled warrior, has the power of one of the Nine Titans and is currently their ally. What is the gain here? For all Levi's pragmatism, Zeke actually is a weak point for him. Zeke's flippant toying with the lives of others, lack of remorse for his heinous actions and the overall arrogance in which he brazenly presents himself opposes Levi on a fundamental level. Remember, Levi was devastated upon realizing that he, humanity's strongest soldier, had in fact been killing humans every time he slaughtered a titan. Zeke is his antithesis. Zeke couldn't be bothered to learn the name of the village that he titanized; Ragako being the hometown of one of Levi's immediate subordinates added even more fuel to that fire. Sure, we remember Annie yoyo-ing humans and stomping on them like insects. However, Levi was there to personally witness Zeke using Erwin and the other survey corps members as target practice; Zeke was gleefully enjoying murdering them in droves. He turned their tragic, heroic, desperate suicide charge into little more than a baseball game and was openly yipping like a cheerful child. It's not simply about fulfilling Erwin's final order, Levi genuinely hates Zeke Yaeger. Yet still Levi looks at the bigger picture and does not kill him. He knows how vital Zeke is, so he puts his own wants and, essentially, Erwin's last command on the backburner. He doesn't trust Zeke at all, he figures he'll eventually betray them but he wouldn't move unless Zeke proved him right. Him not killing Zeke was equivalent to letting his comrades' sacrifice, his best friend's sacrifice, go to waste. He still didn't do it. Zeke titanizing Levi's subordinates in the forest, reducing their lives to fodder and callously weaponizing the close bond Levi shared with them? Well. Everyone has a limit and that was Levi's. Zeke had just proven him correct in the worst way and, while he had the sense not to kill him, Levi prioritized his personal hatred of Zeke over his logical side. Torturing Zeke, setting up that reckless death trap was nothing more than an act of vengeance. His hatred toward Zeke was more than justified but him slicing off his legs, inch by inch, was for Levi and Levi only. He was pissed and he wanted revenge. He let his feelings cloud his better judgement for the first time; a rational Levi would not have set up the thunder spear trap that the vengeful Levi did. And what did he gain from this? Well, we all know the answer to that question. In summary, revenge is as petty and childish concept that has zero benefits beyond a fleeting catharsis. And comparing Levi's treatment of Zeke with his apparent lack of hatred towards Annie doesn't make sense. Levi abhors everything that Zeke stands for.
@niklas3595
@niklas3595 Жыл бұрын
Its not just the characters, the plot, the storytelling, dialogues, fight scenes, enemy design, complexity of it all or even the tramatising gore... The directional skills are simply amazing in this series.
@mibbucover2038
@mibbucover2038 Жыл бұрын
Marco was important to him. My heart is breaking...
@ezwan7656
@ezwan7656 4 ай бұрын
Jean's best friend. Of course he is important to him.
@blacky8987
@blacky8987 4 ай бұрын
bruh marco was a a brother to him thats why i cant see why the need to keep rainer and annie alive like fucc them anyways ere is going to let them win so they dont need them
@mibbucover2038
@mibbucover2038 4 ай бұрын
@@blacky8987 ok? I I just expressed my emotions, I knew it for a long time xD
@Momme211
@Momme211 Ай бұрын
@@blacky8987Because killing them wouldn't change anything, it's not like Marco is gonna come back to life again. In fact, it would just make it more difficult for the alliance to stop Eren since both Reiner and Annie has two of the nine titan powers and are powerful and strong warriors, so they would be great allies in battle.
@real_lampcap
@real_lampcap Жыл бұрын
Marco's words really stuck with Jean and helped him become the great leader he is. Marco was the biggest player in Jean changing from a selfish asshole who wanted to be MP for his own comfort and benefit, to being a fantastic soldier who helped put a stop to it all. Marco may not have lasted long in the story, but his impact was huge.
@Titangoboom99
@Titangoboom99 Жыл бұрын
I can't IMAGINE the tension of sitting down to a meal with the man who killed my friend. I can't even begin to imagine the rage that would be bubbling up under my face.
@Momme211
@Momme211 2 ай бұрын
Not to mention that you cannot even kill that person at the moment to avenge your friend because you both are on the same side to stop someone else. Jean could only beat up Reiner as a punishment but he could not even kill him like they did with Bertholdt which is sad. It must feel so frustrating and unfair to be in such position.
@thenightqueen0
@thenightqueen0 Жыл бұрын
“But at the very least. We’re talking now without trying to kill each other.” Speaking a bit too soon there Hanje 😅
@eckoratt
@eckoratt Жыл бұрын
Fun fact; Marco’s voice actor in AOT played Mark in JoJo, who died in the exact same f**king way.
@Razorcarl
@Razorcarl Жыл бұрын
Brutal
@youwantfood9586
@youwantfood9586 9 ай бұрын
Woah didnt know they had odm gear in JoJo
@calamityclash0018
@calamityclash0018 9 ай бұрын
@@youwantfood9586Missed the point entirely
@Jojels
@Jojels 9 ай бұрын
​@@calamityclash0018well tbf he said the exact same way
@youwantfood9586
@youwantfood9586 9 ай бұрын
@@calamityclash0018 it was a joke man
@LhLeo
@LhLeo Жыл бұрын
Reiner doesn’t want forgiveness but a beat up, Jean delivered both requests and he is the only one who ended up wounded cuz only Reiner can heal. Such a nice guy and this isn’t even for a joke
@vhjr283
@vhjr283 Жыл бұрын
Reiner was asking Eren to kill him. Eren refuses. This time, Reiner can’t die because he now has a purpose of stopping Eren. But he still needs a beat up and pleads for it. This time, his past comrade, Jean, delivers. And they become best friends.
@vortozan5395
@vortozan5395 Жыл бұрын
This is why children should never have to go to war. It’s fucking wrong on way too many levels.
@calamityclash0018
@calamityclash0018 9 ай бұрын
Tell that to the Ukrainians
@vortozan5395
@vortozan5395 9 ай бұрын
@@calamityclash0018 yeah, I heard about that.
@MachinaOwl
@MachinaOwl 7 ай бұрын
@@calamityclash0018 True, though reality isn't that simple like some cartoon where you can blame one side of a violent conflict. Ukraine didn't merrily decide to do things like that, they were PUSHED. Palestine as well. People talk about how HAMAS are all evil terrorists but they forget the reason that group even exists to begin with. Can't imagine living in a place categorized as an "open air" prison.
@fbiagent3998
@fbiagent3998 7 ай бұрын
There were a lot of adults in AOT who were in the military. The only reason they sent out children was because the rest of them were getting killed off so fast they had no other choice but to enlist teens.
@vortozan5395
@vortozan5395 7 ай бұрын
@@fbiagent3998 yeah I ain’t mad at the people in this story for putting the kids in the military. Their entire situation was messed up from the start.
@Sup-cq8tf
@Sup-cq8tf 11 ай бұрын
Bruh pieck really relaxing in the back like its a vacation💀
@wakeupthisisntreal8168
@wakeupthisisntreal8168 Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine how much anger and horror jean was feeling at the same time. The truth hit him so suddenly and he was also the one who found marcos body. Truly a traumatizing moment for him.
@Tommy-rf9sw
@Tommy-rf9sw Жыл бұрын
Marco reminds me of Maes Hughes from Fullmetal Alchemist. He basically could’ve been the one to unravel the mystery at the earliest stages of the story but had to died to prevent that.
@Moon-sr7zd
@Moon-sr7zd Жыл бұрын
The fact that jean understands there have been many marco in both paradis amd eldians in marley continent, amd there still are many and plenty of marco to be saved so he swallowed his anger and went with their alliance
@soaringdragon3972
@soaringdragon3972 9 ай бұрын
Amazing how relevant Marco is to the story, he looks like a typical background character ngl
@bluz1864
@bluz1864 6 ай бұрын
Similar to real life. Sometimes a person whose only been in your life for a while ends up having the most impact
@sayalint5155
@sayalint5155 4 ай бұрын
Marco is the reason I picked up SnK in the first place and dropped it immediately after he's confirmed dead
@BenGTheSun
@BenGTheSun Жыл бұрын
It's intresting to me how important Reiner ends up being to Jean in the end. Even after this at the final fight, Jean is the one who is most concerned about Reiner staying alive, even putting himself in the line of fire to save him. Now of course you can say its just because "Reiner is important to win the fight" but it does seem like Reiner is still important to him as a person, even after hearing this and telling him that he can never forgive him for it. Such complex characters Isayama wrote.
@Marcell2aG
@Marcell2aG Жыл бұрын
The best evidence for Jean still considering Reiner a friend is when he still counted him as a fellow Scout when they were inside Rumble-Eren.
@blazingdance3612
@blazingdance3612 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Jean was also thinking that Marco wouldn't have held a grudge against Reiner. All he wanted to do was talk but he never got the chance. Jean probably realized that Marco would want to release the possibility of a lifelong hatred and just move past it. That's what Jean did. Marco would be proud of him.
@MANJI-DRAGONFLY
@MANJI-DRAGONFLY 9 ай бұрын
In the manga you can see Reiner tearing up when he sees that Jean turned back to a human
@lZUNA7
@lZUNA7 Жыл бұрын
Jean and Marco were the best of friends they both encouraged each other when they were in trouble no wonder Jean reacted the way he did.
@Unnecessarilylongexplanations
@Unnecessarilylongexplanations Жыл бұрын
The switching scenes or the treetops is such a cool touch to a very tense conversation
@theilluminatibenefactor
@theilluminatibenefactor 4 ай бұрын
Man, Marco's demise was truly the turning point for Jean.
@mehdiackerman3352
@mehdiackerman3352 2 жыл бұрын
annie didn't move a finger lmao
@Fox.White.
@Fox.White. 2 жыл бұрын
She did in the manga she helped reiner
@karelrindo13
@karelrindo13 Жыл бұрын
in the manga she help
@diegovazquez8001
@diegovazquez8001 Жыл бұрын
She took off his odm
@Mr.Lil_Nut
@Mr.Lil_Nut Жыл бұрын
@@diegovazquez8001 bruh
@nikoryu-lungma
@nikoryu-lungma Жыл бұрын
I do not like Annie, at all. That b*** got away with pretty much everything. She should have been punished by death or something
@johnrie18
@johnrie18 Жыл бұрын
We all know that if Jean had wanted to kill Reiner, he would have taken his head off instead of beating the crap out of him knowing full well that Reiner can heal from such a beating.
@donnat3248
@donnat3248 9 ай бұрын
I don't think that was what crossed his mind when he was filled with rage
@ahnaflfc369
@ahnaflfc369 7 ай бұрын
How tf is he gonna take his head off with his hands? Plus he's not immature enough to pull out swords because of a petty vengeance
@hellfirdragon17
@hellfirdragon17 Жыл бұрын
This scene is very explicit about what I think is a core theme of the series. The inability to show the vulnerability required to cooperate, locks them all into a death spiral. Existential distrust between different groupings of people leading to genocide. Did Eren not enact a horrific genocide because he saw no peaceful path for his people to survive? The world had cornerned them and the human animal fought for it's life.
@syzan_
@syzan_ 11 ай бұрын
2:41 Love you Jean! 🤙🏻
@legendaryfrolox6285
@legendaryfrolox6285 Жыл бұрын
I call cap on the "we havent been trying to talk anything out" everytime the scouts tried to talk it out with reiner or Botorlo they actively avoided it and instead went straight to violence. Paradis gave marley and the world so many chances to talk it out and they just did not care
@zamasuaboveall
@zamasuaboveall Жыл бұрын
isayama really wrote himself into a corner and you can really see it here
@hillariat2147
@hillariat2147 Жыл бұрын
Marley didnt exactly give the kids a chance to talk it out. If they came back with nothing, they and their family would die. If they sided with paradis, who knows what kind of torture paradis had in store (remember the marley propaganda?)
@legendaryfrolox6285
@legendaryfrolox6285 Жыл бұрын
@@hillariat2147 the Marley propaganda wouldn't even make sense at this point since they had been there over 5 years. Hell even in season 3 bortululu told armin straight to his face "none of you have done anything wrong and you are not devils"
@SneakNationCEO
@SneakNationCEO 6 ай бұрын
All I ask from you is that you put yourself in the shoes of Reiner, Bertholdt or Annie. You should understand why it isn't so simple as you make it out to be.
@patkundesu
@patkundesu 4 ай бұрын
The fact that Reiner remembered what Marco said means that it was probably eating him up inside as well.
@jacobmacdonald9503
@jacobmacdonald9503 Жыл бұрын
The best moment that Jean just avenged Marco 😢
@FilthyFrankenjoyer
@FilthyFrankenjoyer Жыл бұрын
A few punches is not going to do anything, Marco is dead regardless. Jean could kill Reiner but how does that make him any better?
@joncarr1200
@joncarr1200 11 ай бұрын
​@FilthyFrankenjoyer This ain't about Marco anymore. It's about those two.
@meghnasingh1121
@meghnasingh1121 16 күн бұрын
The kick to gabi was satisfactory to be honest
@liam698
@liam698 Жыл бұрын
Marco 100% would have been sitting on that plane if he didn’t die there
@randolpgallardo8301
@randolpgallardo8301 20 күн бұрын
I'll never forgive reiner, annie and bertholdt for killing Marco
@angrynerd4178
@angrynerd4178 4 ай бұрын
It's so easy to forget that the memories they have of Marco, and even Bertholdt are when they were kids. Everyone grows up but those who died don't. You grow up and remember your best friend as they were. A kid
@oscarnator2324
@oscarnator2324 16 күн бұрын
Jean should still hate Reiner in the final. He murdered his close personal friend
@johann_el
@johann_el 9 ай бұрын
This may be a small scene but Marco's death has a great impact to Four of them, Jean, reiner, Berthold & Annie. Marco is the reason why he join survey corps to three of them, he's the first person & friend they betrayed even Annie cried on what she did, she even had a nightmare about him.
@guren2904
@guren2904 Жыл бұрын
i will never forgive those 3. good job jean
@OreoOreoCookie234
@OreoOreoCookie234 4 ай бұрын
He forgave them though
@asarigopur4783
@asarigopur4783 4 ай бұрын
​​@@OreoOreoCookie234 and because of that aot becoming fucking terrible in the end tbf...
@blacky8987
@blacky8987 4 ай бұрын
fo real fucc them
@blacky8987
@blacky8987 4 ай бұрын
@@OreoOreoCookie234 thanks to that this anime lost the fnkg respect of literally all the old fans
@remsipstea
@remsipstea 3 ай бұрын
@@asarigopur4783what are you guys talking about? the ending was nowhere near terrible; the fact that jean had it in him to forgive reiner after everything was a demonstration of his character and who he is as a person i really don’t understand how yall r making it out to be like “how could they forgive them!!!!!!!! grrrr!!!!” even when they all acknowledge that annie, bertholdt and Reiner were brainwashed as children and forced to fight like come on. them joining up again is a beauiful thing imo, like them putting aside their differences to save humanity was insanely cool
@タムー-e5d
@タムー-e5d Жыл бұрын
ここでマルコの遺言のおかげで、マーレ側との対話が必要と気付かされてるの、切ないながら少しでも何か残せて良かったなぁ…てなる
@rakibulilamshuvo4149
@rakibulilamshuvo4149 Ай бұрын
A bunch of traitors who betrayed their homeland
@sanyamjain522
@sanyamjain522 Ай бұрын
Just imagine jean throwing his tray on Reiner face . How satisfied it would have looked.
@drdoom6798
@drdoom6798 Ай бұрын
0:34 Yeah, SECRET conversation 😂
@Idk_idk22268
@Idk_idk22268 Ай бұрын
They could choose a thousand building and houses there as a secret place of conversation, nobody would know, everyone was busy with titans, yet they chose to talk it over in the roof.
@elf9136
@elf9136 Ай бұрын
So secret they decide to discuss it in the open where anyone can just come along and overhear them
@ichigosakura988
@ichigosakura988 Жыл бұрын
Jean only knows that Marco protected him that's why he died but knowing the real truth behind Marco's death it was extremely hurtful.
@itachiff9203
@itachiff9203 Жыл бұрын
The way they kill marco was very brutal and enough brutal that it make me hate all of those three
@Natalie66796
@Natalie66796 Жыл бұрын
I miss Marco :(
@-kimmy.
@-kimmy. Жыл бұрын
Me too! 😢
@calamityclash0018
@calamityclash0018 9 ай бұрын
I half miss him
@proggornashibatorh
@proggornashibatorh Жыл бұрын
this scene is so awkward that we are shown branches instead of their faces to make it easier to watch
@Izh383
@Izh383 Жыл бұрын
They did that so people focus on the conversation
@afridisultana6448
@afridisultana6448 Жыл бұрын
I am glad that Jean didn’t forgive annie
@joncarr1200
@joncarr1200 10 ай бұрын
Onyakapon's face is like: "Damn. That is fucked."
@ileana2242
@ileana2242 9 ай бұрын
The way they just show us the branches of the trees while reiner explains the nitty gritty of it is so disturbing. We're not even allowed to see how the other are reacting to base our reactions off of, We're in the same spot as our characters here as we're suddenly just dropped this load of information and now have to process it.
@ileana2242
@ileana2242 9 ай бұрын
Ofc this has already been revealed to US but I'm sure the audience had been itching to wait for the reactions of the others when they eventually find out
@benn6086
@benn6086 9 ай бұрын
@@ileana2242 I agree, waiting for this scene in the anime was hard for a manga reader like me lol
@gabrieljohnson161
@gabrieljohnson161 11 ай бұрын
I watched the part when Marco overheard the conversation and got eaten alive just before this. And Reiner remembered everything Marco said and it seemed the whole scenario stuck with Reiner vividly.
@GxGNoir
@GxGNoir Жыл бұрын
They sure took their time getting him off Reiner lol
@christmasisawesome9348
@christmasisawesome9348 Жыл бұрын
I think they deemed it reasonable but they stopped it cuz it was probably too much of a beating.
@bluz1864
@bluz1864 6 ай бұрын
​@@christmasisawesome9348I agree. Personally, I would have let Jean have a couple of punches in. At least enough for Reiner to have some physical injury but I would have stopped him roughly around the same time too
@blacky8987
@blacky8987 4 ай бұрын
bruh the 90% of the guys there had marco as their most cool friend... ofcourse they where about to jump him too but jean was faster
@Snekgeck9
@Snekgeck9 Ай бұрын
Annie should not have gotten off so easy
@louiskim7325
@louiskim7325 7 ай бұрын
Jean inside his head "TF are you saying "sorry" to me for?! I said its enough already. You dont have the f-ing right to utter those words. SO SHUT THE F UP ALR".
@ENVT_Kitsu
@ENVT_Kitsu Жыл бұрын
This was the exact scene that showed me that there were no enemies. Just two opposing worldviews trying to reconcile
@DrOMr03
@DrOMr03 3 күн бұрын
What makes Marcos death more sad is that he died not knowing why.... he didn't exactly understand what Reiner and Berthold were talking about and he didn't know the truth about the world he was living ......at the end another innocent and ignorant soul punished because of King Fritzs terrible decisions .
@walterflores6712
@walterflores6712 3 ай бұрын
Yelena instigating the whole thing was beautiful
@davidpabon2668
@davidpabon2668 Жыл бұрын
0:05 i imagine in the manga that looked amazing
@AllenC1x
@AllenC1x 9 ай бұрын
this entire scene in the manga was heartbreaking
@fishconnoisseur
@fishconnoisseur Жыл бұрын
Reiner and Bertholdt Jean and Marco Levi and his squad.
@somepepperonyoutube8374
@somepepperonyoutube8374 Жыл бұрын
Jean, keep kicking For the sake of the audience
@Omega-jg4oq
@Omega-jg4oq Жыл бұрын
she is a victim just like everyone else, you wouldn't hate her that much if she killed some random person instead of Sasha
@somepepperonyoutube8374
@somepepperonyoutube8374 Жыл бұрын
​@@Omega-jg4oq that is infact ONE of the reasons
@Omega-jg4oq
@Omega-jg4oq Жыл бұрын
@@somepepperonyoutube8374 You do realize that Iseyama wanted to Kill Sasha since S2 the moment she saved Kaya and fought that Titan, she was supposed to die there..
@metro-v8
@metro-v8 Жыл бұрын
@@Omega-jg4oq and that is why i will shit in isayamas onsen. for 10 years at least
@HadeTheReal
@HadeTheReal Жыл бұрын
you people's ideology is what this whole show criticises Which is the cycle of hatred In the aot story
@taiall
@taiall Жыл бұрын
We can all agree Reiner deserved it. Brainwashing or no Brainwashing
@bluz1864
@bluz1864 6 ай бұрын
That's why they let Jean get a couple of punches in.
@remsipstea
@remsipstea 3 ай бұрын
he deserved it and he wanted to get beat up imo but that’s my fucking goat his character only kept developing more and more after this scene 🙏 he’s such a complex dude i love him
@blueberrytoast5528
@blueberrytoast5528 3 ай бұрын
Marco had saved Jeans life by distracting the titan when he was trying to remove the odm gear. Then Jean found him after Eren sealed up the whole. He always felt in debt with Marco for that.
@Raze9110
@Raze9110 Ай бұрын
Direction is amazing in this episode
@GoofyGoober_lala
@GoofyGoober_lala 7 ай бұрын
Reiner was genuinely TWEAKING throughout the whole show💀🤦🏽‍♀️
@mihaicovaciu6634
@mihaicovaciu6634 9 ай бұрын
Alternate title: Reiner learns his place beacuse of Jean.
@benn6086
@benn6086 9 ай бұрын
I will change the title for a day if you subscribe 😏
@Limrasson
@Limrasson 5 ай бұрын
The extra spice in this scene is both the responsible parties, like Commander Magath and the fresh brainwashees like Gabi being present.
@blacksamurai1373
@blacksamurai1373 9 ай бұрын
Jean is just right. Reiner deserves more than this.
@somerandomguy9156
@somerandomguy9156 8 ай бұрын
Yeah! Eren will nott force to commit massive genocide if it weren't for him.
@randomusername3873
@randomusername3873 8 ай бұрын
And Annie got the D instead, amazing writing, how deep
@Thundeclap
@Thundeclap 7 ай бұрын
​@@randomusername3873You really lack any iq dont you
@HadilAyyad
@HadilAyyad 6 ай бұрын
@@somerandomguy9156did you watch the finale? Eren admitted he wanted to do the Rumbling, it had nothing to do with his mom.
@ThatMe-c2k
@ThatMe-c2k Жыл бұрын
I love the part where they showed a bunch of branches and sticks
@rayleigh8
@rayleigh8 Жыл бұрын
Eren is right. These people wanted to kill them all. Eren’s only mistake was to go after everybody nation outside the walls, he just should have killed the nations that attacked paradis.
@benn6086
@benn6086 Жыл бұрын
Would have been a more peaceful path but he would also become a public enemy and an even greater threat to outside nations. Therefore being more prone to hate, and attack.
@BananaSoupProjects
@BananaSoupProjects Жыл бұрын
eldians were looked down on in all nations
@Omega-jg4oq
@Omega-jg4oq Жыл бұрын
@@benn6086 he could have manipulated all the Eldians outside the walls and change their memories like Tybur family and Willy tybur and erase that hatred towards Paradise mindset, the problem is Marley and half of the world
@Yeagerbomb77
@Yeagerbomb77 Жыл бұрын
​​@@Omega-jg4oq nah f*** the eldians outside of Paradis as well. All of them are more than willing to sacrifice their own people, even doing it themselves, just to be a bit more "free" in Marley. They would have never sided with Paradis, they're beyond brainwashed as we can see with these pathetic self hating fools in the clown alliance. And honestly, the fact that it got SO bad is on them as well. Not a single one of them fled to Paradis to seek refuge and help in a century. Just Grisha. Only one single person did that. Mindblowing. They're too far gone and they had to go, too.
@wartortle577
@wartortle577 Жыл бұрын
did you completely skip the declaration of war episode? it's literally about uniting the world to get rid of paradis.
@kamentrainerhorn2073
@kamentrainerhorn2073 23 күн бұрын
Everyone: Jean! Don't do it! Jean: *WHY NOT? HE'S LITERALLY ASKED FOR IT!*
@Jayshiver
@Jayshiver Жыл бұрын
The fact that Annie and Pieck just let Reiner get the shit beaten out of him… I’m starting to think that the Survey Corps members still like Reiner more than the other warriors like him, even after everything he’s done to them
@jskxidn5301
@jskxidn5301 Жыл бұрын
annie got into a fight with reiner before. but they are still comrades. weird how pieck and annie dont care
@eduardor-o4884
@eduardor-o4884 9 ай бұрын
In the manga annie tended to Reiner after jean attacked him, she gently Reiner's head and placed something under his head i think. In the anime it was cut from the episode.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 8 ай бұрын
1:38. That did not last long.
@noanything8993
@noanything8993 2 ай бұрын
Lmao
@hydeeharrington4681
@hydeeharrington4681 10 ай бұрын
marco's death is the first betrayal in story. it open up another hurtful moment and betrayal.
@SickSilckMan
@SickSilckMan 4 ай бұрын
Even at the end, Marco still hung over them.
@Scrappy_ill_fold_ya_Doo
@Scrappy_ill_fold_ya_Doo Жыл бұрын
Anie did a bunch of fucked up things. Killed a lot of innocent people that was trying to defend Eren.
@wholesome_masochist4113
@wholesome_masochist4113 Жыл бұрын
That's just it. Sure Annie did a lot of fucked up things, but almost everyone did seriously screwed up stuff. Annie, Bertholt, and Reiner were all just older versions of Gabbie, hell none of them were much older than her at the start of the series either. The biggest theme of AoT is that everyone is morally grey as hell.
@TheStrawberryCloud
@TheStrawberryCloud 7 ай бұрын
​@@wholesome_masochist4113 Except she ended up getting a free pass for it, that's the difference.
@wholesome_masochist4113
@wholesome_masochist4113 7 ай бұрын
@@TheStrawberryCloud Yes Gabi absolutely did get a free pass with all her bullshit. Annie actually got consequences for her actions, even if they weren't followed through on later due to needing her to stop the rumbling, and with the gang knowing the full circumstances of the warrior trio and their angle by that point? Gabi got off Scott free for literally everything she did, while Annie at least did not
@MachinaOwl
@MachinaOwl 7 ай бұрын
@@TheStrawberryCloud Annie was trapped in a personal hell for 4 years where she could only think. She definitely didn't get a pass in this show lmao. And the reason people weren't upset with her in this scene? She owns up to everything she does and she keeps her mouth shut.
@TheStrawberryCloud
@TheStrawberryCloud 7 ай бұрын
@@MachinaOwl Except it was a hell of her own making, nobody forced her to encase herself in crystal for all those years, she chose that herself, so how is that punishment exactly??
@socomusnavyseals1113
@socomusnavyseals1113 Жыл бұрын
1:04 bro even Magat is horified
@HadilAyyad
@HadilAyyad 6 ай бұрын
I’m sure he’s thinking about the fact he trained literal children to commit atrocities towards others. I’m glad they gave Magath a way to try to redeem himself. I didn’t shed a single tear watching most of aot but his and Shadis’ final scene made me cry like a little girl 😭 felt especially bad for Shadis bc no one knew he was on the ship with Magath :(
@thinhsuynhuoc
@thinhsuynhuoc 2 ай бұрын
I love how reiner copes. He didnt cry or just simply felt bad. I felt so guilty that he went into a rage and killed that titan that killed marco. Asking himself why marco is being eaten. Denial and violent rage is such a real way to cope for those in situations like this. He even proped jean to beat him up so he can feel like hes earned his grief.
@fliegendertitanfliegendert8691
@fliegendertitanfliegendert8691 Жыл бұрын
I love this scene where Reiner is getten beaten up
@xdami...
@xdami... Жыл бұрын
Best Jean moment
@officialtjtrev8910
@officialtjtrev8910 3 ай бұрын
Im rewatching aot and just finished that episode where he found marcos body
@benn6086
@benn6086 3 ай бұрын
@@officialtjtrev8910 It’s an experience watching everyone develop during the story
@raminatazade5376
@raminatazade5376 5 ай бұрын
Marco was my favorite character..
@rae-rae8005
@rae-rae8005 Жыл бұрын
2:20 AS YOU SHOULD DO JEAN!
@JJchi834
@JJchi834 Жыл бұрын
That's why the mission failed so miserably, because Reiner was leading it instead of Marcel 😅
@HadilAyyad
@HadilAyyad 6 ай бұрын
Why are you so confident Marcel wouldn’t have failed lol the scouts weren’t going to lay over and die
@Somerandompokemon
@Somerandompokemon 9 ай бұрын
jean has every right to be furious… they are the reason his best friend.. is dead
@shalikakellman
@shalikakellman Жыл бұрын
Damn jean want not playing around he really beats that ass😂
@minutemenhunter
@minutemenhunter 7 ай бұрын
I love the visual decisions to while they talk. As Annie and reiner tell the truth the tree zooms and focuses on the branches as if we're getting to the root of the conversation
@failorrise7093
@failorrise7093 Ай бұрын
Poor Reiner. I get why eldians on paradise hate him. But his life was so cruel. He should have joined them. They all should have become volunteers.
@bdsgamer7090
@bdsgamer7090 9 ай бұрын
Jean went apesh!t on Reiner
@greendino5388
@greendino5388 6 ай бұрын
Marco: I am I joke to you?
@Rosalinesurvived
@Rosalinesurvived 3 ай бұрын
I think its so clever having Gabi getting caught up and hurt in the crossfire. No matter how much people assume violence won’t spill out, it always ends up hurting everyone, whether they were involved or not involved, especially children.
@injamhossan
@injamhossan 5 ай бұрын
Me to Reiner and whole warrior unit:You cannot always do bad things and feel bad about yourself
@iamthereforeitrytothink
@iamthereforeitrytothink 2 ай бұрын
I despise the main parts of post-TS AOT esp cause of the poop ending, but these smaller bits are obviously done well.
@LUKEHUNTER-od3ww
@LUKEHUNTER-od3ww 7 ай бұрын
But one thing for certain marco was absolutely right they should have had the chance to talk the secret through with him so riener doesn't have any excuse asspecially for the fact that he destroyed erens home.😡 WHO'S WITH ME ON THIS CAUSE IT'S REALLY UPSETTING?!
@batzz898
@batzz898 6 ай бұрын
Just my thoughts,but I really like the shots of the trees and random things, it’s like Jean is actively listening, but at the same time looking around at everything else except for the person talking. And when Jean snaps it focuses right on Reiner. Just my thoughts.
@sayalint5155
@sayalint5155 4 ай бұрын
Yeah this is why i still haven't forgiven that titan trio.
@Jooders
@Jooders 21 күн бұрын
Crazy how a freakin side character from season 1 still has affect in it’s series final episodes….
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