just find the intersection of circle and x axis put y=0 x^2+5x+4=0 -4 and -1 will be the roots and while writing it in argument it will be +1 and +4 and by some logic i easily figured whats alpha and beta
@dnyaneshkadu23627 ай бұрын
Please make a video on jee adv 2018's toughest question of circle
@vacationspecial31517 ай бұрын
Yes!
@adityaatiitg7 ай бұрын
normal people are solving by these methods but toppers just putting y=0 and find roots of quadratic
@rationale17347 ай бұрын
Nice
@TheJugx3 ай бұрын
nah they aint topper (i did the same and im not topper lmao)
@adityaatiitg3 ай бұрын
@@TheJugx if you solved it by yourself then you will become very soon
@khuranapranshuАй бұрын
y=0 se kaise aayega ??
@adityaatiitgАй бұрын
@@khuranapranshuBecause alpha, beta are real and lie on that circle So their imaginary part will be zero
@nihal67837 ай бұрын
My method was : Arg((x+a) +iy) /(x+B) +iy)=π/4 Then i multiplied numerator and denominator inside argument by the quantity which is present in denominator and hence we end up with the equation : Tan^-1((x^2+y^2+(a+B)x+aB+(B-a)yi)/(x^2+B^2+2Bx+y^2)) = π/4 Then split the numerator into two parts such that it forms the complex number : tan^-1((x^2+y^2+(a+B)x+aB)/(x^2+B^2+2Bx+y^2)) + ((B-a)y/(x^2+B^2+2Bx+y^2)))i) = π/4 Now as we know that argument of any complex number w=c+id is d/c So, the argument of above equation will be : (B-a)y / x^2+y^2+(a+B)x+aB = tan (π/4) =1 then cross multiply the terms and take all the terms to right hand side making left hand side zero. And the equation will be : x^2+y^2+(a+B)x-(B-a)y+aB=0 And by comparing above equation with equation of circle we will get two options correct : B and D
@NoName0697 ай бұрын
Arey bhai 😅
@rationale17347 ай бұрын
Bhaiya arc ki eqn lag....Pythagoras se eqn a gyi
@rawatutkarsh7 ай бұрын
Pretty easy question bhaiya Solved it by 1st method under 3 minutes
@sakshamsingh17787 ай бұрын
😂😂🤡
@rawatutkarsh7 ай бұрын
@@sakshamsingh1778 kya be
@krishgarg28067 ай бұрын
I did a mix of 2 and simpler approach. as alpha and beta are real, and they will be in the locus circle of z, I just put y = 0 in the circle eqn. from here we get -1 and -4. now the 2nd approach part, we know these will be -alpha and -beta, hence we get alpha beta = 1 and 4 deciding which is which, we can check using clockwise and anticlockwise rotations to see -alpha > -beta, hence alpha < beta we get alpha = 1, beta = 4 this looks lengthy but I was able to solve like this under a minute.
@ujjwalsinghpal82207 ай бұрын
Bro ye kese pta chala ki alpha beta locus pr h
@krishgarg28067 ай бұрын
@@ujjwalsinghpal8220 again rotation ke idea se, locus arc hoega with -alpha and -beta as end points of the arc. technically unhe include nhi karenge, but poora circle de rkha hai to usme included hoga hi
@annapurnasarangi99997 ай бұрын
I did 2 appr, 1 is coni method, and another one was radius equal.. in the 2nd method I got 2 values for a and B, but then I saw the options, and got tk that alpha and beta should be positive, then possible values are 1 and 4, then as both of them won't be the same, I got beta will 4
@apratimtewari42887 ай бұрын
rotation wale se sirf ye realise hojaye ki arg(z+a/z+b)= pi/4 represents major arc of circle. Eqn of circle is given. Also alpha and beta given as real so they are points where x^2+y^2+5x-3y+4=0 cuts x axis. Option se alpha aur beta ki values daalke dekhlo ya y=0 put kr quadratic solve karlo hogaya solve question.
@chiragsharma49686 ай бұрын
aaj hi rotation seekha tha, hogya...accha laga solve krke😅
@raytheboss46507 ай бұрын
for method 2 z should be -5/2 +3i/2 and z+alpha = i(z+beta)
@phantom_iitBHU7 ай бұрын
Just put x= iy and multiply conjugate of denominator on both numerator and den. Equating real and imaginary parts and comparing with the equation we easily get the values of alpha beta
@Mindblo7 ай бұрын
A more easy way would be just funding x intercepts of circle which will be alpha and beta it's will also come -1 and -4
@anjuomji7 ай бұрын
Meko ese question ni hota but solution dekhta hu to lagta h ki ye etna asan tha mere dimag me kiyu ni aya ye 😢kya kru?
@offroadgamer97057 ай бұрын
Solve karr bass aur kuch option nahi haii
@LokeshSuryawanshi2647 ай бұрын
Tum akele nahi ho 😅
@droyprimechoudhary18027 ай бұрын
Bhai summary banao sab chapters ka tabhi sab concepts yaad rahege.Nahi to yehi sab hoga.
Done it with second approach , alpha beta me perpendicular lines ka slope wala lagake kardiyan❤❤❤
@annapurnasarangi99997 ай бұрын
Bhaiya the conplex number for the centre shouldnt it be -5/2 + 3/2i ? And also, the coni method, it should be z+a = i(z+B)
@team_07187 ай бұрын
Bhaiya mujhe confidence mai provlem hori mujhe adhe simplification mai lagta hai ki galat hora hai par voh sahi hota he😢
@yatharth24637 ай бұрын
Was expecting you to use rotation, easily hojate h aise ques usse
@satvikyadav74697 ай бұрын
Finally first time mera koi question under 2 min hua thanku bhaiya(advance question)
@sakshamsingh17787 ай бұрын
(Please do not delete my comment) 2:12 pe aapne jo likha hai na ki argument of a complex number a+ib is tan inv b/a This is not always true Let's say -1-i ek complex number hai ye third quadrant me kahi hai par iska tan inv (-1/-1) kroge na to wo π/4 aata h indicating that this thing is not true. So your first solution is not quite rigorous
@krishgarg28067 ай бұрын
well it is also true that the entire circle is not the locus of z. only part of the circle. as we are looking for more general possible locus, it is a fair lead to go with just tan-1
@Ayush-yj5qv7 ай бұрын
We can assume and solve rigorously also it's not very hard
@srikarm9857 ай бұрын
Maine is paper ko as a mock diya tha pichle Sunday ko, and karte time is equation mein substitute karke solve karne ka try kiya but hua nhi. Uske baad expand karne ka socha, in the way you did, but time nhi bacha...
@ignonane7 ай бұрын
SIR easy sawaal tha😂❤
@Raj-xt4fk7 ай бұрын
Its not said that a and b lie on that circle. So how will rotation method work?
@mryash25657 ай бұрын
Standard question hai saare teachers kara dete hai ye wala
@adityajha28897 ай бұрын
103 seconds Method:- argument ke andar hi denominator k conjugate se upar nihe multiply karo Denominator me jo bhi aaye(kyoki wo numerator k real aur imaginary part k liye common hoga) But numerator me jo aega uska real aur imaginary barabar krke ek circle bana lo fir compare krdo 103 seconds bhi isliye lag gye kyoki stopwatch mil nhi rhi thi😂
@Shivang85457 ай бұрын
Bhaiya isko arc Wale se bhi kr skte h -alpha aur -beta uss given circle PR lie krenge aur dono real h toh dono ka imaginary part 0 krke alpha aur beta nikal skte h itna calculation bhi ni krna padega
@anwita57 ай бұрын
Sir can u tell in 5:46 ,how 2+beta ,answer is not coming?
@adityajha28897 ай бұрын
Z likhna chahte the bhai Mujhe ye batao ki z =-5/2+3/2i hona chahiye na
@anwita57 ай бұрын
Yes ,you are right ,
@jodplays34257 ай бұрын
Bhaiya Maine 11th Ka Syllabus Khatam Krliya Mere Teacher ne To Ye Brute Force Method nhi sikhaya Tan-¹ wala
@itzSiddhxrth7 ай бұрын
School mein nhi sikhate bhai ye sab. Jee ke coaching mein sikhaya jaata he
@temporaryname99147 ай бұрын
complex number skip kar sakte hai kya??
@Bald1147 ай бұрын
Since a and B are real cant we just put y=0 and solve the quadratic ??
@naitikagarwal96547 ай бұрын
Merko toh keval second wala hi aata hai ... Kafi easy ho jata hai rotation se every question
@prahladkumar71207 ай бұрын
bhaiya aise hi physics aur chemistry ke questions daala karo
@AryanKatiyar2897 ай бұрын
2-2:30min observe krne me aur 30 sec solve krne me graphical method se
@PranavSinghJEE20257 ай бұрын
Bhaiya rotation se krne me question todha lamba jyega but comparitively easy hoga 😅