Jeff Teague says being 3rd option is HARDER than 6th man in NBA | Club 520

[@PKA_HUB]

Shoutout to Chris Bosh

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

Chris Bosh is the unsung hero of those Miami championship teams. Not too many players in their prime are willing to sacrifice and Bosh sacrificed more than anyone on Miami

[@LeeBlancc]

Shout out Bosh, Beal, Thunder Harden there’s more but they come to mind first

[@YvadneMurriel]

I would say wade did. Especially that first yr. But CB4 definitely was right there too li,e 1a and 1b ​@Christo_Trismegistus

[@thehavokmann]

Bro became a role player at the brink of his prime. Go to the corner catch and shoot Chris!

[@kevindepina6210]

Shoutout Klay Thompson

[@Fymnuhuh3]

Aaron Gordon was that guy in Orlando, he went to Denver and was a key 3rd option during the championship run

[@Vichinsky-ox8px]

He wasn't a good number 1 option in Orlando he fit perfectly as a number 3 option

[@Fymnuhuh3]

@ sure he wasn’t a good number 1 but he was their only scorer, it’s prolly not a great example but I’m just saying some guys are able to go from a #1 to a #3 because they’re aware of the sacrifice to their game, and are willing to change for the betterment of the team. Beal is selfish in trying to be a scorer in a place where there’s already scorers

[@tiers8077]

@@Fymnuhuh3 Beal isnt selfish, hes just a scorer first. If you're a hooper then you know when he has the ball, the first thing that comes to his mind is whats the best place to score and not what the best play is. Its just hardwired into him since he averaged 30 as the number 1 option before.

[@aboutmillions]

Victor was “the guy” you clearly don’t watch games 😂😂😂

[@fearofsaturn]

did nikola vucevic not exist? lmao

[@Poetic_hoops11]

Jeff Teague is a thoughtful dude. Much more so than many of the ex-players with big T.V spots. Always love to hear his takes, both on the hoops side and on the human side, too.

[@sportsanalyst2024]

Great take. Definitely depends on the player and their ego. Manu Ginobili had the best of both worlds, 6th man but also the 3rd option.

[@waltjones6927]

He could also be a number 1 option. He was untouchable in 2005 that chip involved A LOT of his magic

[@12365elijah]

Stop it, Manu didn’t have the same situation as other third options. It was easy for him Under Pop

[@vibeinparadise9821]

@@12365elijahword it was easy when he won gold against team USA 🤡😭

[@riccardoferrazzo8283]

Also, Ginobili comes from FIBA basketball, that is more team oriented

[@Hargazer]

@@riccardoferrazzo8283which helps because pops prefers team oriented play too

[@Chuck-mr6iq]

James Harden started out as a sixth man.. So he's always had to adjust; Middleton wasn't a third option until Dame got there... Jrue Holiday has adjusted to being a 4th option

[@cheezit5001]

Jrue definitely 5th option scoring wise

[@Chuck-mr6iq]

@@cheezit5001 Porzingas is only playing 40 games a year... So I was giving Jrue the 4th option for 42 games...

[@cburr81]

That’s why Harden was able to do it flawlessly on the nets(when they were healthy) 6MOTY + MVP tings

[@Dustywhoads]

He getting 50 million a year he need to FIGURE IT OUT

[@4a_atm]

Most people won't remember this but that was a shot from Kent Bazemore to Bradley Beal specifically... when he played with the Warriors he got into it with him because he made a joke online about Steph Curry going crazy the last game of the season to make him the league leading scorer. Bradley Beal playing for the wizards obviously one of the scoring title for his legacy, because besides being an All-Star he's not really playing for much else when he was in Washington. So they had a brief little Internet beef once he made that joke and he probably couldn't wait for this to happen to him in Phoenix so he can continue to take shots at Bradley Beal.

[@redman6790]

Yep I remember the presser Bazemore got onto him. I believe it was BB wife who said some shady stuff. But yeah, BB has played losing ball for all his career (except those years with John Wall in mid-2010’s), so any level of expectation is an issue for him.

[@shinkibigami9]

I just wanna say the high school that Jeff played for and now coaches looks insane I just looked it up. My school was nowhere near that size!

[@Walkingbucket3]

The people who somewhat struggle (Brad Beal,Kevin love,Chris bosh) all were #1 options previously. Klay, Khris Middleton, cj McCollum all excel bc they know how & when to pick their spots

[@Walkingbucket3]

Without interfering with the #1 option

[@AMDoss93]

Bosh ain’t struggle.

[@thekidlivesnow]

@@AMDoss93he did change his game tho to be a better 3rd option for a reason. Bosh was a back to basket post big when he was younger. He became one of the first 3-d stretch bigs that actually led to winning.

[@eastblue42]

Took a bit. He doesn't develope that 3 it gets spooky for him ​@AMDoss93

[@lakime6315]

@@AMDoss93he went from averaging 23 and 11 to 15 and 7 he became a elite role player

[@paulwilliams7323]

Fucks with watching yall 3 bro. Yall topics are cool asf i fucks with it.

[@kimchiclashes2890]

Love this take n this is exactly y i dont wanna listen to nonathletes talking sports. U think non athletes can give the public takes like this? Instead they spew out their opinions as if we suppose to listen to it n think its wisdom

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

That fine. Don't wanna hear these athletes speak about anything but their sport

[@akajjdnsnd2118]

​@@BoosterGoldEarth6 shut yo corny ass up you the problem tf you mad he saying this for poop 💩

[@elklobotomy]

@@BoosterGoldEarth6 all you gotta do is not listen then, nobody needs to hear you bitch about it

[@channeltonytony]

Why r u listening to this podcast then ?? 😹😹

[@xman9190]

In my day, piling up numbers on a bad or mediocre team wasn't something to be proud of. It meant nothing if your TEAM didn't win.

[@1BookOfIsaiah]

Beal haven’t averaged 30 since 2020 though…:he averaged 23 his last 2 years with Washington….suns just made a bad trade trying to put 3 ball dominant players together

[@DA-su1rr]

he avg 31 in 21 too but go off

[@MuckNoya]

​@@DA-su1rreither way thats 3+ years ago so the fact still remains. But go off though

[@donekoburnside1546]

@@MuckNoya he’s been in phoenix 2 seasons now , and his last year in Washington he shared the all with a lot of other guys , Kuzma , dinwiddi , Montrez , porzingis

[@Nick-sr4fe]

The reason Beal struggles is because he doesn’t have any other skills besides scoring with ball in his hands. James Harden, Love, Bosh, Klay, etc all adjusted to their roles because they have other abilities that can help them on the court. Whether it’s playmaking, passing, off ball movement and shooting. Beal doesn’t have that if he doesn’t have the ball in his hands he is quite literally useless

[@sheabuttersymba]

I agree with that statement that 6th man is harder but also B hen had a great point. He should've thought of that before he agreed to go to Phoenix. Beal, KD and Booker are dynamic scorers who need to ball to create opportunities for themselves. He doesn't have the ability like Harden to transition into a playmaker.

[@Vichinsky-ox8px]

He had no where else to go

[@calebpayne2655]

Shoutout Kevin love

[@dandylawe8875]

It depends on what type of player you are and what position/style you play If its 3 stars that all like to dribble and iso score it's most likely not gonna work If it's 3 stars one likes to pass, one likes to score, one likes to catch and shoot it'll work Also a big 3 done well is getting a playmaking guard a SF that can play both ends and a Center that can Rebound and score/Defend well the reason these Big 3s be failing is because they all play the same position or style damn near and don't want or can't do much else

[@TEAM16-KANE]

The big 3 narrative is starting to expose the pressure it carries..you need 2 key stars and a team built around them

[@BlackSantana]

Chris Bosh Kevin Love Big numbers on mediocre at best teams....with no chance at a title Accepted the 3rd option to have a chance to win. They both deferred to better scores of the ball. Both are now champs Simple

[@sidsinahon]

People forget but klay went to no. 2 to no 3. when KD went to the warriors, it's a matter of you fitting in the role that the team needs you. Also the way the sixers roster are right now where their players stars and role players are in and out of the roster its hard to stablish a role for that.

[@krose0902]

Being a great 3rd depends on the players skill set. If you a third option you better be able to play off the ball efficiently if youre not the point guard, or be a really great defender if u wanna succeed. If you were ball dominant, chances are you’re gonna fail like how Westbrook failed with the Lakers

[@marcus1999mmbboy]

Cam got hit with the 3rd option curse at Duke👨🏽‍🦯

[@gabetwatson]

Facts!!!

[@threeismynickname980]

You can see the delema for a player like Jalen Williams, everybody say hes great but when hes playing bad he bad or he's not good or hes in a slump or smth, right now chet isn't playing so he is more a secondish option

[@Stephverry]

Just was talking bout this on Gil podcast bout Beal

[@troygardner822]

It’s because you have to play like prime Klay to be an effective 3rd option that’s still puts up all star numbers

[@84interstateful]

Carmelo in OKC PG13 in Philly

[@nikoenciso01]

Love was gonna have all the numbers in Minnesota

[@Vichinsky-ox8px]

He would have had all time stats

[@donekoburnside1546]

@@Vichinsky-ox8pxyes but he wanted to win so he left , he kept getting hurt and they never made the playoffs

[@Vichinsky-ox8px]

@@donekoburnside1546 There team wasn't good enough to make the playoffs

[@TheRealWayneSteven]

The reason they don’t think about this before they leave is because they are the generation who were raised by their moms so many of their statements are emotionally driven… Add the fact that they are millionaires and will quickly tell you “SMD get your money up” at the first sign of criticism they don’t want… They are “tweet and deleters” saying that to say “the moment you don’t make me happy, I’m telling everybody…” then they apologize and play victim… That’s why.

[@redman6790]

Best formula is the LeBron formula: - 2 Stars (ideally two ball handlers who can also play off ball when needed) - Surround with 3&D

[@lil5eezy]

U right

[@DemonKing-oi4jd]

He lost more than he won as the GOAT... Curry formula was better

[@HisRoyalFreshness163]

​@@DemonKing-oi4jdevery player not named Bill Russell lost more than they won, unless you're outing yourself as one of those morons who argue that losing in the playoffs is somehow better than losing in the finals.

[@BLee09]

Going from first to third is a major adjustment. Easily the hardest adjustment in the league.

[@thestylemind4922]

Klay Thompson was a spot up shooter. That’s the perfect role for a 3rd option because you don’t need the ball. Bradley Beal isn’t a spot up shooter.

[@chosen1brand635]

Which is crazy because at Florida and his days with John wall he was

[@jman1562001]

Beal is a combo guard with wiz.....he was off the ball but still got opportunities to play with ball one on one.

[@rjc9537]

Beil is better off being the 6th man and leading that 2nd team in scoring production! 💪💪💪

[@manqobafortune1853]

It depends on your team mates, Look at Denver & Boston every team mate is involved

[@jman1562001]

Most of the players complement each other and come to terms with their role. White and Holiday are willing to guard multiple guys at their size, shoot when guys double Tatum and brown, and make the hustle plays that go unacknowledged and willing to put the ego aside for the good of winning. Same with Aaron Gordon. MPJ is more of a spot up shooter but him and Gordon going to play D and do the little stuff.

[@Ken-ux5gc]

Well what did Bradley Beal think was going to happen when he went to Phoenix???????????

[@2kool4u71]

He not even a 3rd option at this point..Beal is washed. Looks like he has no explosiveness what so ever and he just not that no more

[@jman1562001]

He's 32 and the cracks were there in the Minnesota series. He's entering Ray Allen stage of his career arc. Difference is ray adjusted to be a spot up option either as the 3rd option or off the bench. You got embrace the new role or get cast off.

[@allanawanyo4966]

How much money do 3rd options make on aversge compared to 6th men

[@AshBashSneakers]

Never thought about that.. 6 man gets to go off like a starter.. 3rd option is a killer being neutered!

[@jman1562001]

Andrew Wiggins made it shake lol. And lowkey Andre igoudala made a second career being a third option 6th man.

[@zsanb.5893]

I never really understood the Love For Beal. At one time he was worst starting wing defender in the league while in Washington and was always a volume scorer on bad team.

[@meez35]

Harden literally averaged 25 & 10 his first half of season with BKN.. was top5 in MVP voting at one point

[@jeffreyhorton9584]

Dope

[@billydeedre]

At the end of the day, it's about the individual.

[@lil5eezy]

Teague kno wtf he talm bout 💯

[@KnowPhere]

Beal was scoring so much cause he was the #1 option in Washington. Wall was hurt half the time and no one remembers the rest, Beal was out there doing whatever which is why he could’ve got traded before but claimed “I want to win here” so he could get the bag. Idk why anyone expected him to be great in phoenix. He’s a decent shooter but can’t defend and isn’t as diverse as booker. Knew that was a bad trade at jump. Teams should realize you can’t have 3 ball dominate players on one team for success. Idk if Beal can even be put as a spot up shooter at this point in his career.

[@aboutmillions]

It’s hard being a 3rd option when you play with guys that dominate the ball. IE: Luka, JH, Kyrie, LeBron, Booker, etc So it’s not surprise that Beal is struggling. He’s a rhythm player who can’t catch his rhythm cus the ball is sticking w KD & Booker lol same goes for Porzingis w Luka. Luka is a generational ball hog that only passes for assists. He made Porzingis look average then he left and won a chip w Boston because they MOVE THE BALL.

[@andrebillups4079]

This facts

[@Pupasportwave98]

Clyde Drexler is the best Portland trailblazer

[@shakeiljones5184]

I agree especially when you use to being the guy

[@jonathanchan1365]

idk why i thought of scottie pippen

[@bmorekid94]

KD to the warriors he was the 3rd option right ?

[@Not1ofDem857]

I’m surprised KD went to Phoenix. He tried the same thing in Brooklyn with James and Kyrie. If they didn’t work ion know what made him think doing it again with Book and Beal Would be different. You can’t just load a team with offensive ⭐️s and think your Good. Defense is how Boston won a Ring.

[@X02Overdose]

It would’ve worked had it not been for injuries

[@showboat92]

6th man you will get more shots and you are playing against the second unit of the other team so its probably easier then third option especially if you were a first option before.

[@thenameskavell]

Sometimes 3rd that’s a 6th man is better

[@shawnb9589]

Kevin love and Chris bosh were both the guy on their teams averaging 25 and 15 in their sleep... it's different because this was more of a team build of older guys who all wanted to win but look at dirks run... dirk was the guy in Dallas and a bunch of vets who had all been the main or 2nd guy guy somewhere else came to dallas to win together, they all took smaller roles. J kidd, Jason Terry, shawn Marion, even Caron butler although he was hurt in the pllayoffs... all those guys were the number one or 2 on a previous team.

[@newheat4.043]

Yes the person in the starting line up is more important and has a harder role than the 6th man off the bench lmao

[@Justin-ih3vj]

right i think the title should read “ 3rd option is less preferred than 6th man”

[@pokeninja97]

We get it from an Xs and Os stand point, but they take 50 mill a year as a 3rd option you are gunna be scrutinized harder.

[@williamgrierson4133]

Man up for 50 million

[@sog4eternity]

damn didn’t know pg was the third man 😂😂😂

[@Gokuslays]

Jt became what we thought pg would be

[@blahhh...8369]

Yeah idk bro I swear pg try’s to play too smooth jt has a bag but he chooses to shoot from specific spots that he can practice over and over.. I swear pg just be doing too much

[@LukaGremory90]

Imo isnt about being 3rd option is hard, the transision between the change from being 1st to 3rd is hard for star player play in stack squad. Like wb n dlo is la before, now beal. Wb in denver is working bcz their suppose to be pg star seem dont like hold the ball and wb is ball hog so its work for the team.

[@coreyeatmon5101]

Your shots are capped no matter what

[@michaelrice9163]

Draymond is a natural 3rd option on any decent team.

[@jman1562001]

Draymond not a scorer tho. He basically plays the point forward role in the warriors offense while being able to guard multiple players.

[@coledaynhell]

It was a bad comparison bruh. Like lets be real here, Beal isn't washed his but on a team with Booker. Unless the rotation isn't adjusted, the Suns and especially Beal will not flourish. Your third options on a team usually a the 6th man unless its on a superteam. Klay, Beal, Harden, Bosh and etc. Idk what player has gone from 3rd option/6th man to a 3 & D guy. Bazegaze sped had compared Danny Green to Brandon Roy.

[@HitchProductionz1837]

Paul George Hall of Famer is wild stuff. The Hall is becoming less and less prestigious by the day. Good player but no chance.

[@rhenzokuken]

Bet your life, too.

[@Valorant_Dem0n97]

It DEPENDS. Two way players, 3D, stretch 4s THRIVE as a 3rd option. Wiggins, Aaron Gordon, Klay, Klove...

[@WatchingLakersBasketball]

Ask Ginobli he was 3rd and 6th

[@begreat2038]

Melo became the third option from NYK to OKC

[@iguesss]

KD should go to Miami for Jimmy

[@HibachiSmith-n5s]

Suns was doing good everything was good they doing bad now it’s time to break em up got Beal coming off the bench is diabolical fr ppl need to check em ego’s at the door

[@miketdarnell]

James Worthy Chauncey Billups

[@jig1056]

I get what you’re saying that you go from averaging Gotti numbers to just being a third option I think people get sick and tired of being on losing teams. These dudes are competitors you wanna win and you’re on a team that starts out three and 20 year after year after year that shit get old as hell

[@jman1562001]

Beal took that max money 💰 in Washington after they traded John wall and russ left. Yeah he got paid but hard to build a roster when you making all the money. Their is trade offs.

[@thapupfather]

beal wanted that ez chip & da mission failed

[@davidbg1696]

Walton and Drexler are greater Blazers than Dame

[@davontebrown4491]

Bruh the NBA throw anybody in the Hall of Fame Teague said Paul George is a hall of famer like WTF, how bruh???

[@rhenzokuken]

Bet your life.

[@davontebrown4491]

@ explain why he a hall a famer

[@rhenzokuken]

Grant Hill -7x All Star -1x All NBA First Team -4x All NBA Second Team -Rookie of the Year -Gold Medalist -2x NCAA Champion Vince Carter -8x All Star -1x All NBA Second Team -1x All NBA Third Team -Rookie of the Year -Gold Medalist Reggie Miller -5x All Star -3x All NBA Third Team -1x 50-40-90 Club -Gold Medalist Paul George -9x All Star -1x All NBA First Team -5x All NBA Third Team -2x All Defensive First Team -2x All Defensive Second Team -Most Improved Player -1x Steals Leader -Gold Medalist

[@davontebrown4491]

@@rhenzokuken NONE of those names should be in the same hall of fame with a Kobe, Shaq, Jordan, Tim Duncan, & Lebron Thats my point

[@rhenzokuken]

@@davontebrown4491 then make your own.

[@Tiy51]

Dame over Clyde ? Idk about that bro Clyde was nice w it and actually got them to the finals

[@nolaboycap]

Twice at that !

[@comptonrick]

Bro mentioning Klay , he's a katch and shoot so it LOOKED eventually on paper you realize it wasn't tht good for em

[@bobbybrown6]

This just common sense

[@nicovelz87]

Bruh this goofy read a post from Kent Bazemore? When was Kent ever second option in the NBA? God bless America anybody can have a podcast!!

[@anthonybanks1948]

Prime example is Russ he was the Franchise in OKC he played great in WAS HOU & the LAC but now he was just a piece of

[@X02Overdose]

He playing great next to Jokic

[@kaliquerobertson1712]

So we not gonna talk about Russ

[@speakeasytartarsauce6371]

Brandon Roy over Dame

[@Shotter]

Paul George is a Hall of Famer tho? IDK about that

[@noahfencemedia22]

Man easily imo

[@goat-s9m]

@@noahfencemedia22 how lmfao

[@Geeandrezzi]

⁠@@noahfencemedia22 easily? 🤔

[@Vichinsky-ox8px]

​@@GeeandrezziIt's easy to get in the basketball hall of fame.

[@Geeandrezzi]

@@Vichinsky-ox8px it ain’t that easy lol. PG13 has never had a run in his career where he was a top 5 player. You can make that claim for players like Tmac, D-Rose and Grant Hill before the injuries hit them hard

[@sammontana74]

3rd option get paid more

[@michaelrice9163]

Draymond

[@ShaunWallace-72]

A 3rd option wasnt even a thing till Boston 😂 Lebron thought that was cool and relegated Chris Bosch. 3rd options are irrelevant in the league

[@Wix1306]

Bradley Beal was HIGHLY overrated. He was averaging 30 points on a team he never had anywhere near playoff contention in the eastern conference 😂

[@deareion]

It depend on playstyle and ego

[@manewhat901]

Is PG really a HOFer?

[@stevenwhiters8928]

Reality is ideal of pg13… and his skillset differs from his production. Anybody knows who watch him every night knows he streaky as hell. No rim pressure and overrated defense

[@adams.gestwicki5292]

Could say the same about Porter with the Nuggets until recently. Knowing how to execute and make the most of your touches isn't an easy game to play.

[@ou8428]

Bradley Beal was absolutely empty calories on an awful team for YEARS. He wasn't a playmaker. He was one of the worst defenders in the history of the league. Stop trying to give too much credit to dudes who shoot the ball 20+ times and get less than 50 wins a season...

[@djmack52]

No Lamar Odom love

[@allanawanyo4966]

Tell Reaves this nonsense

[@ReelNigba]

Embiid has been hurt so George not even a third option now he just washed

[@KAye633]

B-Hen think he know more than Jeff about basketball and the nba, you didn’t play in the league. Relax. 😂

[@redman6790]

You can have an opinion and comment without having played professionally i.e. what mostly all sports journalism is about

[@vibeinparadise9821]

MANU

[@zod548]

How did Kevin love become the third option? I was a kid back then , but looking back at it wasn’t he better than Kyrie? Arguably could say he peaked higher than Kyrie till this day. How did it go that everyone accepted he was the third option and not a tag team of him and Bron

[@SwuadeTV]

Cuz kyrie ran the point

[@zod548]

@ yeah that’s what I was thinking , but if it’s just that it makes sense

[@xman9190]

In my day, piling up numbers on a bad or mediocre team wasn't something to be proud of. It meant nothing if your TEAM didn't win.

[@Tomfrom_woods]

No they just bad

[@NBKG_JBlack]

Respectfully Tyrese is the 3rd option not pg

[@allanawanyo4966]

A 3rd option will always be given a bigger contract than a 6th man dont even compare