Fantastic video Jeff. Next level manuals. I agree though, sub 15mph tech is where bikes like this shine. I'm also not a huge fan of coil forks on hardtails, and these long slack hardtails are a handful to jump. Excellent experiment, riding, and analysis as always.
@hillsidewoods3 жыл бұрын
How do you like this frame for a review?, patreon here saying hi
@JeffKendallWeed3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Steve! Ya in general I’m preferring air suspension , but glad I have given coil an honest effort! Hope to do more hard tail Vids this winter!
@hambo762 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late to the party (see what I did there?!) but I ride a Suntour Zeron coil fork on a Ragley Big Al and I love the feel. Granted I've never owned an air fork better than a Rockshox Recon but still, this rides much better than that! Most of my trails are slow and techy (Smithfield Cairns) but I do a fair bit of flow trail too.
@21armyn3 жыл бұрын
jeff can ride a huffy and still make a tripple black trail look blue. lol
@faithwalk59263 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😅😆👍
@watsonthedog2643 жыл бұрын
By “internet bike” I thought you were gonna bring out a 26 inch wheel hardtail, seems like people always come out of the woodwork to say that’s still the best bike
@stanner94743 жыл бұрын
In some ways it always will be. It's like driving a Mazda Miata, an Adult go-kart that isn't fast and it can't hang with a Porsche or 'vette in the curves but it's crazy fun in it's own right. Like that feeling you get every now and then when you're mellow inside and move to the far right to drive 55 while you totally relax watching the rest of the crazy stressed world fly by. There are times when slow, mellow, light, simple & highly-challenged are required for their own form of pure & simple enjoyment, different and probably much less than the present ''Normal'' but needed for the full appreciation of the new. Hey Jeff, Bruh - you better begin *_now_* to nip it in the bud, Bud, or you're going to be 55, sitting in your recliner, 65lbs overweight wondering what happened. I got there but now I'm on my way back. Now I take that full plate of delicious dinner, look at it for a few seconds realizing that's what's helping to keep me mid-section-plump, then take my fork and slide about 1/3 to 1/2 back into the pan, take more time between bites - and find I don't miss it/didn't need it, that other 1500 calories. Oh I still enjoy my Haagen-Dazs, but 1/2 as much, and I have kicked up the exercise level too, but I don't think you'd have to worry about *_that_* - lol
@joshoshannessy3 жыл бұрын
@@stanner9474 who has the time to write a comment that long
If you just watch the video and don't listen to Jeff's commentary, this looks like the best bike on the internet :)
@underbikedoverconfident11423 жыл бұрын
A chromag stylus with a bomber fork, industry nine wheels and PNW drip isn't the worst idea the internet has had by a country mile 😀
@seasonedsurfer233 жыл бұрын
Logan is an absolute unit sending those jumps in flip flops!!
@napoland96763 жыл бұрын
I have a Rootdown -- full 29er with a 150mm Lyrik. Great bike in the PNW tech stuff....not as great in the buffed bike parky stuff. But I think an air fork is the way to go on a HT frame for the extra pop. Just one man's opinion, however. Ride whatever makes you smile!
@frankthetankricard3 жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn't get to try out a lot of modern tech, your videos are really valuable in my purchasing decisions. You have excellent descriptions of the overall feel of a bike and how some part changes can affect it. You are also skilled enough that I don't doubt your word for a second.
@robertbrandt13813 жыл бұрын
Thanks Logan for filming!
@xnirvanaXnevermindx3 жыл бұрын
Huh, smaller hardtail, kinda like mine.. Huh, 150mm travel coil fork, just like mine.. HUH, mullet, just like mine 🤯 Just realized I've been doing whatever ppl suggest
@daneprice97733 жыл бұрын
I bought a rocky mountain growler from Jenson USA in December. It was set up perfectly and super happy with the purchase. I've always been impressed with Jenson.
@leroywilliams72103 жыл бұрын
Thank You! I have a Chromag Wideangle with a 170 fork and 2.6s cushcore in back and was seriously thinking of Mulleting it. Case closed! And yes the Hardtail w/ 170 fork is fun playful and “can” hit the local dirt jumps but I sure miss having a Fully in my stable…
@GoodTrails3 жыл бұрын
This was how a few of my buddies ran their hardtails in 2003. big front wheel, small back wheel and super high front end. Great for wheelie drops of picnic tables
@cederrowe69643 жыл бұрын
I use to run that setup!
@jacobg130productions3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has built up and owns a Stylus I can say that they are REALLY fun when done right.
@HotKooks3 жыл бұрын
9:21. Hope you snagged that Reishi! I've never seen one growing in the wild
@rob17473 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I was thinking about trying to make my stylus mullet setup just to get the stack slightly higher, but maybe I'll hold off. I agree that it feels at home at slower speeds on techy stuff. It's not the most compliant of hard tails, you can certainly feel it when you jump off curbs compared to other bikes.
@leroywilliams72103 жыл бұрын
Longer fork?
@Biking_with_Akiva3 жыл бұрын
Love the video 🤙🏾enjoyed the riding it blows my mind every time you wheelie halfway down the trail.
@bornreckless47883 жыл бұрын
Just went to 2.8’s on my San Quentin and it’s pretty awesome having the extra plushness for sure🤘🏼 great vid!!
@michaelurich77493 жыл бұрын
Love the shirt man! Thanks for repping Pittsburgh trails
@erickling40913 жыл бұрын
Thanks Logan!
@lagwall3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do a review of the Evil Insurgent. I was torn between the SC Bronson and Evil Insurgent and went Bronson for customer service and warranty reputation reasons. 2022 has both of them as Mullet bikes and I would love to see your review on either, both, or head to head.
@bjtj053 жыл бұрын
My Ripmo V2 Cascade Link just arrived.. you ought to come down to fall city next week and ride it.. it’s a medium..
@cschave3 жыл бұрын
Out of the Blue is a beast of a trail on full suspension. Good on ya!
@Parrskey773 жыл бұрын
dude you are nuts with those wheelies!!!
@insanebmxthomas3 жыл бұрын
completely agree with ya Jeff. This bike has it's place but its not jumps. MTB is splitting up in multiple disciplines. slack bikes for XC/Enduro, slacker bikes for DH, and then hardtails, less slack,, and shorter bikes for anyone who loves jumping.
@mountaingoat87883 жыл бұрын
LOVE My stylus ! Im 5ft11" Got a M/L Feels Prefect! she is in the Crimson tide color.. Just sucks Iv been off the Bike Most of the summer do to ankle Injury but Im getting close to 100% Hopefully for some good Fall riding..
@jimmyburchmtb76683 жыл бұрын
It was awesome meeting you at the civic jumps. It's always super interesting to see how different riders will change up their bikes to find the "perfect feel". fantastic production as always.
@richardjones16173 жыл бұрын
Awesome Trail Pittsburgh shirt Jeff!
@nick_john3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for wearing the Pittsburgh MTB shirt!
@jonarnar48953 жыл бұрын
So, what is the ultimate configuration for the Stylus???
@nogoodnames2223 жыл бұрын
We need more Logan guest segments on the channel
@bensun4323 жыл бұрын
Your videos always make me want to get out and shred!
@certainperfectratio3 жыл бұрын
Love the production in this one
@moonrabbitshuttles3 жыл бұрын
Cool video Jeff! 🍻
@saml81193 жыл бұрын
Love the t-shirt! All my local trails! Where the heck did you get that?? Also since you know the area I ride most… canyon spectral al 275, ibis ripmo af, or ripley af? I used to ride alot of downhill in my younger days but tamed down due to injuries
@JeffKendallWeed3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, I made a whole video about Trail Pittsburgh, and I'm doing those shirts to raise awareness and a few funds for the group- shopjkw.com/collections/advocacy-t-shirts/products/steel-city-trails-t-shirt. I brought my old Ripley V4 out to PGH and it was perfect! In that list, I'd prefer to ride the Ripley AF. I prefer the Ripley AF over the V4 these days!
@saml81193 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response Jeff! And thanks for supporting our area!
@flyingclint5893 жыл бұрын
Jeff, your videos are always incredible! And your riding, 🔥 So what major difference do you notice when riding the 45/50mm stem over the 40?
@chrisgarland93813 жыл бұрын
I love that you crack a manny every chance you get!
@jacobkaltz19583 жыл бұрын
I love the Trail Pittsburgh shirt!
@JeffKendallWeed3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jacob! I had forgotten about those TBH, but I have plenty still in stock! Since you mentioned the shirt, here's the webstore link: shopjkw.com/collections/advocacy-t-shirts/products/steel-city-trails-t-shirt
@jamlarna3 жыл бұрын
So everyone can laugh at my terrible hardtail skills 🤨Uuum I'd like just half the skill you have on any bike! You shred hard man!!!
@JohnDoe-zb7dz3 жыл бұрын
My requirements must be, in this order. Adjustable dropouts, thru-axles, and dropper seat post.
@youtubeviewer95233 жыл бұрын
I have never clicked so fast on a video lol
@lutumrisus76163 жыл бұрын
11:01 ''Well that sucked'' - I mean, like, what else can you say - lol - after landing on your ego that way. I hate to admit it but there's a certain hilarity about that sound Jeff made when he had his moment of Zen with the dirt. Even the *_best_* take a dive from time to time, and this proves it 🙃
@dctruckguy3 жыл бұрын
Love the shirt.
@Krukymonster133 жыл бұрын
my mans out here rocking flip flops hittin jumps and whatnot ctfu
@planeandsimple4313 жыл бұрын
I know this is overkill but, on the glove topic, I wear Fox Dirtpaws. I know they're motorcycle gloves but they're dirt cheap and mtb gloves don't offer any real protection- they're like spandex for your hands. I had a pair sitting at home when I went down super hard on asphalt and tore an adductor and flexor in my left hand- still affects my guitar playing, 4 years later. Never ride without them, now....🙄
@jasper66503 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video since you got the stylus
@mrupholsteryman3 жыл бұрын
And here I was all gung ho about a mullet myself. On a budget. Thanks for saving me (and others?)from making an extra expense that may not work out the way we have been sold on. And here I thought we could believe everything on the internet....
@michaelafflixio75273 жыл бұрын
I think you should do an ombré paint job that matches the frame!!
@chrisgoescross92523 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!
@fdequintana3 жыл бұрын
@Jeff Kendall-Weed you should try It with a 2.4 or 2.5 "regular" enduro tyre up front and a 2.6 on the rear. Sounds wrong but feels so right on a Mullet hardtail
@Coolcmsc3 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show, the best upgrade for a bike is a better rider… In this case Jeff, but for the rest of us (our bikes then), coaching🥳
@Anykine503 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh the Manual master comes through again.
@Njarbs3 жыл бұрын
Nobody’s gonna talk about him calling a manual a wheelie?
@jamsflemin32453 жыл бұрын
Was just about to comment
@nebulah333 жыл бұрын
Who cares
@NoToBigBro3 жыл бұрын
@@nebulah33 Really, who cares. His wheelie is insane.
@bobohunter17763 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much exchangeable.
@dadventuretv25382 жыл бұрын
Nah he’s Jeff. Besides I still call a bunny hop anytime you lift both wheels off the ground. Lol
@prostreet91493 жыл бұрын
I heard you say you will be danged, that to me is what's worth subscribing to 👈
@dadventuretv25382 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff- how about a 27.5 x 2.8, say Assegai, up front and a 27.5 x 2.3, say Aggressor out back. When I measured my 27.5 x 2.5 vs a 29 x 2.3 (both DHFs) there was only a half inch difference in diameter. So the wider tire with consequently higher sidewall made up 1 in out of a 1.5 inch difference in diameter. Link below. So 2.8 front vs 2.3 rear on same diameter rim should give you a decent height difference front to back, amazing front grip with a bit of a playful rearend, yet maybe not feel so unbalanced on jumps? Or a 2.6 front and 2.3 rear? This is in essence what we used to do back in the 80s on our bmx bikes with 20s. Also love to see you demo the new Santa Crus Bronson MX and Chameleon MX. Be great to get your thoughts on the MX set up on a bike designed specifically for it. Anyway, always a joy to watch you ride- you still ride like a 15 yo (by which I mean with just pure joy and fun) which is what Im still striving to continue doing at 50, albeit with a lot lesser skill. Lol. 🤙 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHi1hZ6PaZ6co7M
@dadbod4life3 жыл бұрын
I wish you lived in wisconsin, i need your manual lesson!
@bigslacker6663 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the DJ park I knew it was gonna flop, haha! Mullet and MTB geo on those steep jumps was destined to suck. It's shocking how easy those kind of jumps feel on a real DJ bike vs an MTB, so much less work.
@Gab3.H073 жыл бұрын
Yo I have the same grips handle bars and tires just in a different color that’s awesome
@alexsanier48473 жыл бұрын
You manual superbly I just subscribed
@johnnnewmex2 жыл бұрын
LOL...loved "the internet loves...."
@lindsaymitchell45583 жыл бұрын
Coolest Shirt Ever!
@nathancouse35963 жыл бұрын
Reduce fork travel to 140 run 2.4 or 2.5 front and rear. Cush core rear. Or what id rather have is no mullet. 150 front 29er, no need to have that much travel up front. Just my 2 cents, and that's only bc I ride hardtails (:
@tomnaylor14913 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the longer travel with the 27.5 front and a 26 rear
@adinbaird20763 жыл бұрын
Bedrocks on the jumps! Love to see it
@marko28063 жыл бұрын
i think, it would be interresting with 26 inch wheels , i would love to try that . because on the website it says it fits with 26x3.0 , never seen one
@danielholman34362 жыл бұрын
I’ve thought about 26inch mainly because I could run wider rear tires AND a mullet type set up with a 27.5 front and 26 rear wheel would be interesting.
@stanner94743 жыл бұрын
OURY grips!
@Adam-vm8kp3 жыл бұрын
Surely xtr would be the ultimate groupset option.
@mw71173 жыл бұрын
Have you had any issues with the Chromag inner yokel getting excessively chipped/scratched up after rides? Mine has and I'm wondering why, I'm going to stick some 3m tape on the inside to try and remedy the issue. Just curious if anyone else is having this issue.
@ronaldlenllanera29923 жыл бұрын
Cool bike. But looks sick with the trust fork.😁 is trust forks available to buy somewhere?
@323johnnybravo3 жыл бұрын
You and Wyn Masters wheelie contest ???
@davidblackman31273 жыл бұрын
Next you need to try a titanium chromag
@JCintheBCC3 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this video 56 seconds it was posted, and it has a downvote. Who clicks on a video that fast and immediately dislikes it? Who is *that* excited to dislike something?
@MTBinKY3 жыл бұрын
Someone from the internet?
@ShavingPeggy3 жыл бұрын
@@MTBinKY The sad truth nowadays are BOTS
@streetbeast70783 жыл бұрын
I’ve got 2.8 front and back on mine
@claytonjessup61633 жыл бұрын
Very good to know , I have considered replacing my Santacruz chameleon frame with a chromag root down. Is the chromag worth it ?
@edgardacanay84603 жыл бұрын
Chromags (I have a 2021 Rootdown) have a rather heavy duty chainstay/seatstay, stiff like a dirt jumper. If compliance is what you are looking for, the Chromag Rootdown is not for you.
@claytonjessup61633 жыл бұрын
@@edgardacanay8460 does the chromag RootDown not very compliant?
@edgardacanay84603 жыл бұрын
@@claytonjessup6163 It is pretty stiff compared to the Chameleon AL and overbuilt considering it is designed of like hardtail freeride/DH/BP bike or a potential forever bike. Not for weight weenies. If you want more compliance as well as bling, there is a Rootdown Ti frame you can buy for about $3k.
@claytonjessup61633 жыл бұрын
@@edgardacanay8460 the main reason I was looking at as a long term , All Mountain/ Enduro Hardtail build. Is the main reason I have considered the root down .
@kylecavitt66963 жыл бұрын
What gloves do you use? Most comfortable and best performing? I've been having problems with my left hand going numb bad and some in my right but not as bad as my left. My pinky stops wanting to work after a ride.....
@evancathey39683 жыл бұрын
It sounds like gloves aren't the only problem going on. I think you should try moving your controls on your handlebars to allow your wrists to be straighter while riding to allow more bloodflow. Also experiment with moving the shifter and brakes farther inboard away from your grips.
@johnsonjay603 жыл бұрын
Chromag fo life
@stephenjackson96 Жыл бұрын
Dude... just landed on this video. where did you get that shirt??
@14DAVEYO2 жыл бұрын
Where do you ride? These trails are unbelievable!
@chrzzzzz3 жыл бұрын
How does the cromag compare to a cove stiffee?
@Friedman6173 жыл бұрын
This bike is wheelie happ’in!
@NickyNicest3 жыл бұрын
Nothing necessarily wrong with mullets but it’s just a trend. People have been riding them for a while now it’s just that marketing needs something new to convince you you need a new bike. Again nothing wrong with them but I doubt it will last.
@casestudymtb3 жыл бұрын
For that title alone I want to give this ALL the likes
@pt.mtb23893 жыл бұрын
Haha holy hell! My first time hitting out of the blue in darrington was on my aggressive hardtail marin san quentin! I loved it, but when I went back on my full suspension I could hit that trail so much better (though I progressed so much as a rider in that year timeframe) Edit: I also wanted to see what was on the other side of that big root and had to awkwardly step off/had a light crash as well lol
@dereks_mtbadventure63283 жыл бұрын
I did the same style of crash on darrington on that same kinda weird drop that honestly made me laugh
@JeffKendallWeed3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my plan was to send it then I just hesitated when I couldn’t see if there was a landing!
@dereks_mtbadventure63283 жыл бұрын
@@JeffKendallWeed same here and i hesitated and hit my bottom tube and bam ass over tea kettle
@faithwalk59263 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I could ride halve as good as you
@docobb13 жыл бұрын
Luna sandals best cycling sandals?? haha
@DeejayRach0 Жыл бұрын
3:42 what did you put in your water?
@shopvice3 жыл бұрын
Missed the "I'm your huckleberry" opportunity.
@devon080593 жыл бұрын
27.5 front and back with 2.5 tires.
@valentinowolk15643 жыл бұрын
top ride...top cut...nice...rock it...☠🌲🤙
@netposerx3 жыл бұрын
"The Internet" = the smartest people and the stupidest people at a pool party and all are having the time of their lives.
@jasper_of_puppets3 жыл бұрын
A cesspool party
@drtydawg732 жыл бұрын
i thought marzocchi went bust and werent making forks any more???
@yeldawg9073 жыл бұрын
Oh look, Bellingham
@getsaucedon93133 жыл бұрын
pls try dvo and cane creek sus I never see those suspension companies on utube even tho they are top tier, great vid too
@FelixT3703 жыл бұрын
dvo is terrible cane creek is good
@BigBoy-tm5lf3 жыл бұрын
Make a trail bike that’s still good at dirt jumping
@SStarwind3 жыл бұрын
It seems like a really ideal bike in theory but in practice we all know that the ultimate bike is the Evil Calling. UuU
@nunyabiznes323 жыл бұрын
My back hurts just watching this video.
@mannyswan3 жыл бұрын
Ditch the cushcore unless it's real Steep and there's a chairlift handy running 24/7. Did you know rotational weight is worth 1.67? You know mathematically with Theory. But physically that extra extra weight in your wheels will kill your fun every time. Surprised people are still shoving stuff that inside their tires LOL just do a comparison test with and without. If you have a second set of identical Wheels do it that way and you will crack up immediately Knight and Day. Have fun
@Yoda-em5mt3 жыл бұрын
JKW law of the trail i must manual wheelie every bridge i come across i abide buy this law just starting to get manuals over ten feet yay only took me fifty years ha ha . Have you tried the doctor hawk Jeff. Pity about the press fitt bb on all cromags .
@brianrand71913 жыл бұрын
“This bike kinda ended up not being great.. link in the description to build yourself one” 😃