Inside Miami Condo Collapse Ring Camera Frame By Frame Analysis

[@michaelvandermarliere7820]

Talking too much, dragging this out way too far!

[@jeffostroff]

I think the issue here is your immature whining. I showed the entire 13 second video right at the beginning and then gave an analysis. So if you sat through it and didn't like it that's your fault this is on you there was a lot of people that really enjoyed the analysis and the frame by frame walkthrough. If you think that's just me loving to hear myself talk you're just plain clueless and you shouldn't be on KZbin

[@my12spoonswithrose43]

@@jeffostroff totally agree. This kind of thing is really interesting if you have more than half a brain.

[@SceneArtisan]

Many American (and Canadian) KZbinrs do it, it's unfortunately very common. Excessively telling unnecessary information.

[@jeffostroff]

@@SceneArtisan I guess you didn't see the part of the title that said frame by frame analysis or what would you expect?

[@tropisk.]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4fGaJ-ud7Z_la8

[@ldhawthorne]

I'd like to think that most people slept through this but I fear with the shaking, a lot of people were jolted awake but didn't have the time to get out. It's so incredibly sad!!

[@kiwikiwi2483]

Was about to say this. People act as if everyone just slept through this... Unfortunately I don't think so considering people could have been awakened by the pool deck collapse and then the main collapse itself

[@RetroCaptain]

If they could sleep in a similar situation as an Earthquake

[@HomeGypsy]

I was actually thinking that the woman in the unit w/the Ring camera might have had a harder time getting out since she was on a higher floor. So thankful she wasn’t there.

[@Mattribute]

I've slept through earthquakes so maybe.

[@hgbugalou]

There were at minimum a 3 minute warning with very load noises that would wake everyone up unless they are super deep sleepers or had ear plugs in. Sadly most people were probably awakened and confused before cutting to black.

[@kyleprocaccino4794]

I think what is most disturbing is how loud this was. So many people probably woke up to these loud noises and the building swaying only to be crushed a few seconds later.

[@electrictroy2010]

WATCH THE COLLAPSE VIDEO. Section 1 had three rooms with lights, so these people were awake. Section 2 was dark, but several lights turned-on, so those people woke up (then died ~10 seconds later) .

[@electrictroy2010]

JUST WATCHED an interview with a man who saw Residents walk to the balcony to see about the loud noises.. He yelled at them to evacuate the building, but nobody could hear. Then he watched them fall with the building ,

[@Deltaexe190]

@@electrictroy2010 link?

[@chrisogrady28]

​@@electrictroy2010WHAT IS GOING ON with your caps lock

[@shegeek5559]

That groan has to be the most horrifying sound I have ever heard.

[@SnickasBah]

Me too

[@EmilyLucille523]

I can’t imagine hearing that noise waking me up and then everything collapses on me in my bed!!! 😱😥

[@petosp]

Dead sound kind of...

[@EmetYAHU]

Sounds like heavy furniture sliding on wood floors.

[@myplaylist7007]

@@EmetYAHU That wasn't furniture moving it was the building.

[@thetrainwreck1469]

The ring doorbell recording is sick. The groaning of the building is horrifying. It's amazing this evidence was recorded and saved to give people a feel for what happened there in the moments before the collapse.

[@jeffostroff]

I wish it had a battery backup

[@Lizuma]

@@jeffostroff It wouldnt have mattered if it had been the internet cutting out

[@jeffostroff]

@@Lizuma yes makes sense

[@TheDowntown02]

@@jeffostroff For what reason.

[@winterbonnie7859]

@@TheDowntown02 clearly so it jept recording

[@LakeNipissing]

Two things I would point out: The view of the couch is likely distorted by the wide angle / fish lens. Even what the camera is resting on looks curved up at each end, but it is likely a straight, flat surface the camera is on. But a very important detail is the angle the debris is falling ! The camera is 'level' with the living room, but I don't think the floor of the living room is level with the ground anymore. Draw a straight line 'down' at the same angle as the falling debris at 0:36 in the video... this room is now tilted about 10 to 15 degrees down on the right side!! That would also explain why the QLED TV box tipped that way.

[@merrywalsh2809]

Yep, you are right!!

[@kathypriest95]

Yes. It happened before the camera is activated but doesn't move again. Maybe because by slightly collapsing it temporarily stabilizes until all the other pressure is too tight it smashes out and then no support for the bottom and then it all gives way ?

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

@@kathypriest95 Yes, it does move again. The empty TV box 'snaps' at 0:09 of the original video.

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

Watch the arch wall to the kitchen area, too. You can see how far it is leaning to the right indicating how unlevel things have become.

[@mikeg1433]

I think you’re exactly right. He keeps saying things are shifting left but it’s all leaning right. It did take my brain a while to understand that so I can see why one might just assume you must be leaning the opposite way relative to the direction the debris is falling.

[@melissajones1564]

I can’t imagine watching this and feel numb to know that if I had stayed home and wasn’t out of town, I wouldn’t be alive… thank god they were out of town!

[@williamhaynes7089]

especially when it came down in 20 seconds

[@m118lr]

Capitol “G”! Come on...SHOW some reverence IF youre going to include our Lord and Savior. It’s just laziness..and disrespect

[@shegeek5559]

@@m118lr - the Creator (if you believe in one) is likely less worried about grammar than they are about self-righteous judgy people, doncha think?

[@fleurdavril1465]

@Matthew Morycinski Thank you for your great comment😉

[@LethalLemonLime]

@@williamhaynes7089 People always mention that it came down in seconds but the building was banging and making noises before that. In this video he even mentions that the ceiling of the parking garage was most likely falling and that's the crashing noises she was hearing. Good thing she chose not to ignore that. I feel people should've known it wasn't construction. What construction happens after midnight? Not blaming them though. A building should always be structurally safe and sound. The lady who woke up heard and saw the building cracking before her eyes, changed out of her robe into clothes. Grabbed her purse, put on her shoes and escaped before it collapsed definitely had more than 20 seconds to get out. This is when it was cracking and moaning before the actual collapse. The building gave warnings.

[@JasonWardStudios]

Sorry if this has been stated already, but the Ring camera probably didn't run out of battery, but it likely stopped recording when the internet line (or the power to the router) it was using to stream the data was cut during the collapse.

[@randymillhouse791]

The Ring camera ran for its LIFE! It was found still running in Alaska.

[@derekskinner2347]

Ring cameras when triggered only record for so many seconds. And so often can be slow to trigger.

[@uxbman]

Likely timed out after sensing initial motion that triggered the recording.

[@notgreatnotterrible48years63]

My doorbell camera only records a few seconds when movement is detected. Like 10-15 seconds and then it times out

[@kef103]

Correct and there may be additional video if the camera had an SD card in it

[@michaelcaballero3865]

I’m a cctv expert including ring and nest. The increased Light when the ceiling debris started coming down in front of the camera is IR blowback. The increased matter from the collapse reflected back into the camera and illuminated the image. Really like what your doing with these videos it’s really great work!

[@1whocs486]

Thank you for your input 💔💯

[@horsewithnoname12345]

Thank you for sharing your expertise!

[@thewayxdawg]

What's your opinion on that jump in time at the beginning? I feel like there's more video before what's being shown. I have ring cameras and they will start to record when there's motion, then record for the time specified, then there's a brief break in the filming as that time of recording stops and the next "session" gets triggered by more motion. It's not one continous clip. Could be we're seeing the last "snapshot" capture before the video starts recording the motion. So the box is there against the wall in the snapshot, building moves, Ring picks up motion and starts recording and that's where we start with the box leaning in the video.

[@Leonicles]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us!

[@jayspencer8893]

I love comments like this. Insightful, respectful, educational, the perfect length, and ends with a compliment. Faith in humanity restored a little bit.

[@fatedrivesyou7471]

The advice on donating to vetted victims sites only is a class act move...thank you sir

[@whiteeaglewarrior]

Yeah big 👍👍👍 Shame some sick individuals would try profit off the dead who have already died because of greed and profit. No wonder God will let this world destroy itself in order to start again

[@bguda209]

MAN I salute him for that.. you so correct ..🙏🏽🙏🏽💙💙😘

[@allurach1746]

Imagine if the Nir kids hadn’t joined their mother in the lobby. They are lucky.

[@myownbiz5461]

Yes, they were directly under that unit, 7 floors below..

[@tonytunnell9873]

There's gotta be a special place in hell for people who would take advantage of people who passed away in this tragedy.

[@iasciateognisperanza3267]

Yes, it is called Home !

[@rtoma1974]

I guess it's better than scamming people who are alive. The dead don't mind.

[@coonyankcompany582]

@@rtoma1974 for the thieves who did this it matters. They will suffer one day. Better believe this! God doesn’t sleep.

[@chasetonga]

@@rtoma1974 Their families do.

[@eddiebaker3267]

I believe regular hell is actually made for these individuals. It's horrific enough. Pray that they repent and turn to Jesus.

[@24sgabriel]

I just have to say Jeff, there are dozens of do called experts posting their best guesstimate on what happened how, when and why... YOU sir are the only one that talks about the disgusting scam sites where the absolute worst of man is trying to profit from this tragedy, and I just felt compelled to give you credit for taking the time on almost all your videos. That's really classy on your part.

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks Scott, glad to help

[@MaryMacElveen]

The groaning sounds really got to me. Those poor people who died. May the Rest in Peace. 😥🙏❤

[@claudiacanales2662]

Same here. I can’t even imagine the terror! God be with the loved ones and may the deceased rest in peace 💕

[@DLo-eh1ul]

This horrendous issue with this building and no architecture cared to say hey! Your building is in a seriously bad condition. The way it fell onto itself reminded me so much of 9/11. I'm so distraught over this and I live in NYC. Rest in Peace to all lives lost in this unforgivable catastrophic event.

[@fredb2022]

Exactly! It is a human tragedy normally associated with Third World

[@goodluckcharm2008]

Me too. I can’t even imagine.

[@stopthelies3973]

When was that? I didn’t hear it.

[@briannamiller8241]

The groaning an building sounds send me back to the calls from the twin towers where you could here the building failing.

[@johns8902]

Yea. Sounds like a train

[@Nikkiet100]

The second time the.building moaned, you could really see the entire unit shift back and forth. That must have been terrifying for those that were awake and those that woke up. It’s horrible to think that shysters are pulling scams using this tragedy. No conscience!

[@MrSouthofBoston]

I just realized that had someone had the chance to get out the doors would probably have not opened due to the shifting.

[@BreezyWinter]

that's what happened to a lot of people on the lower floors of the twin towers, the building buckled and locked them in their offices.

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

This is why I think apartments and condos can be really dangerous. Usually there is only one entrance/exit, so in an emergency if that entrance/exit is blocked off there's nowhere else to go. It's why I keep harping on my hubby to get one of those portable emergency fire ladders for our balcony because if we ever can't get out of the front door or front window, jumping off the balcony is our only other option. Yeah, I know, no one likes a nag, but I feel like my family's safety is worth being bitchy in this instance.

[@Hiker63]

@@-._.-KRiS-._.- Depending how hight up the ladder is a great idea.

[@Tika927]

@@-._.-KRiS-._.- That’s how it usually is when talking about safety. People don’t consider these disasters possible… until it happens to them. Its all “overkill” or “paranoia”… until you end up in a situation where you need that safety ladder, then he’d be thankful lol. It’s sad that so many of our safety precautions and regulations only come AFTER people lost their lives. Kudos to you for thinking ahead

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

@@-._.-KRiS-._.- Why don't you just order one, then?

[@TruthSeekerNC]

This just breaks my heart. I can't even begin to imagine what the people in that building were going through in the last few seconds of what would be the end of their lives. Lord, bring comfort to the families of those lost and everyone involved in the rescue efforts. Bless them for their service and bravery. In Jesus name Amen.

[@nikak4927]

Amen!!!!!!!

[@Hyp89]

Amen

[@jamesknudsen3057]

Amen although this should never had happened.. this is an example of owners or associates just caring about there pay on the 1st...

[@tonyradle8747]

Amen

[@m.struck6535]

Amen

[@takiradancy1788]

Sir, Your voice is so unique. Your voice reminds me of a story telling book or a narrator. Your voice is definitely a voice for movies or a cartoon character. ❤️ it!

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks!

[@Paranimal86]

@@jeffostroff you could host an Unsolved mystery like KZbin channel with your voice!

[@suetucker9264]

X22

[@daneen2fabulous]

Reminds me of Charlie Sheen!

[@sercelianbastard5806]

He should do ASMR. PART TIME

[@laneboyd6410]

I'm an engineer and I have an extremely cynical view of most KZbin commentators like yourself. However, I am incredibly impressed by your channel and really appreciate the work you are doing. I am also doing a deep dive and I find your videos incredibly helpful.

[@jeffostroff]

Thanks Lane!

[@Maya-yl7sj]

No beams, that's the reason the building collapsed.

[@dagwould]

So, thoughts about insufficient shear reinforcement around columns that was degraded by corrosion due to chloride ion ingress and carbonation facilitated by insufficient concrete cover?

[@Maya-yl7sj]

@@dagwould he explains all, in one video. Sorry Is in Spanish but only by seeing the explaination you'll understand. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHi4dqqgYrWca5Y

[@rollothecat2010]

Thank you for your comment. My nephew is a civil engineer. Most of his jobs have been work on hospitals. Rebuilding hospitals that were dated.

[@dorthyalice]

I was in a 5 story when the 2018 Alaska earthquake happened. Never wanted to live in an apartment building again

[@pcsplus2011]

Wow the guy that enhanced the image of the parking garage is an absolute freaking legend! Nice work!

[@bobfinucane]

At about 10:00 in this film the camera moves, i think

[@nebtheweb8885]

All he did was increase the gamma, and or the contrast.

[@Charliethesteakfans2024]

@fairlady z it’s really not that hard especially with a good editing app/software. My 5 year old who is obsessed with video editing/creating special effects could’ve done that.

[@jeffostroff]

Yes, Ken Lyons is awesome!

[@deedewald1707]

Well put & I like this comment !

[@MC2RD]

Ring cameras are a distorted "fish eye" view to view more with small lens.

[@mrbyamile6973]

Yes, I suspect that's why that couch looked wonky,

[@tony--james]

@ this video was released on news, fairly early, I kind of remember, the owner of the unit/footage who shared this footage, called it a Ring Camera

[@tomcorwine3091]

@ I don’t think it was a Ring brand camera since they brand video you export with the Ring logo. Whatever type of camera it is, the lack of Internet connection is surely what made the video stop. All we see is what got uploaded before its connection went dead.

[@MC2RD]

@ He knew it was a Ring camera, because the owner shared the footage. And it communicates with their phone.

[@MedMikeHawk]

Correct!

[@Slonge92]

If you place a grid overlay on the video, you can see how warped the room becomes. Thanks for doing this! You and one other channel, Building Integrity, are doing the most professional analysis of the tragedy.

[@KayInMaine]

I'm an artist and I put my paintbrush handle on the left side of the column near the entry way doors (kitchen on the other side) and it's scary how much that column is already tilting before the collapse. Also, the roof area in front of the double doors sinks a lot before the collapse.

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

There's also someone on Reddit who is doing a fantastic job of piecing everything together: www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/o7s500/room_711_actual_location_ring_camera_footage_is/

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

It's not the fisheye lens, though? It warps stuff. The column is really off, tho.

[@litchtheshinigami8936]

yep.. like not just the part near the kitchen but the entire apartment just twists to one side and then suddenly as if something else snapped loose collapses to the other side like a rubber band

[@melissapowell1841]

You and Building Integrity are the two channels I watch for this now. You both just want to teach us about architectural engineering, give us facts as far as you know them, and combat fraud, misinformation, and fear mongering. Thank you.

[@jeffostroff]

Thank you Melissa glad to help out

[@dorbie]

The angle of the falling dust suggests that the entire room is tilting increasingly to the right with the video ending at about 20 degrees of tilt. The camera is moving with the room so any translation is relative to the mounting point of the ring camera and therefore movement only shows deformation of the room. The deformed partition indicates shearing between floor and ceiling which seems to accelerate in the final frames. It would be an illuminating exercise to rotate the video over time to keep the falling dust vertical and give a more realistic impression of the room's changing orientation.

[@HomeGypsy]

I hadn’t even thought about that extreme tilt of the stuff falling down the other times I watched it. And now I’m like WTF??

[@Guernicasccs]

The particles are just very light and drifting. Take a freeze frame and tilt your phone. To make the debris vertical the furniture would have to be sliding and it's clearly not.

[@deedewald1707]

It's the outer wall being pulled right & the camera is coming with it !

[@dorbie]

@@Guernicasccs The particles follow a consistent and increasing pattern and they all fall in near parallel fashion. They are not drifting they are falling quite rapidly as the motion blur and bouncing off the sill shows. You can literally see the parabolic arc of individual particles after each bounce proving categorically that they are not drifting. You don't know what the angle of tilt required is to cause anything in that room to move would be.

[@dorbie]

@@deedewald1707 Correct, movement of the wall the camera is mounted on is part of the deformation although distinguishing anything other than relative motion of everything and the tilt from the apparent gravity vector is conjecture. You can clearly see the shear between floor and ceiling in the back of the room indicating a pronounced rhomboid deformation in that region.

[@madisonbadger9454]

Did they have security cameras in the parking garage? If so, shouldn’t the security guard have seen this destruction before the family warned him.

[@surf2257]

Security guard didnt even know the address of the building he was working in.

[@zalmaflash]

This was a wealthy place so security should be dominate. There has to be footage and the lawyers for the owner are sitting on it.

[@larrybe2900]

@@zalmaflash There is more than one owner as each condo owned a share of the building.

[@mssha1980]

It it’s multiple cameras probably not. I don’t think the security guard was only in the parking garage

[@brasilgirl2848]

In most garages they only have security cameras at the gates. I know this because in all buildings I have lived in it was this way. My 18 story condo built two and half years ago has more security cameras at the entrance, pool deck and garbage rooms than in the garage. I’d love to see better lit and secure garages in all these condos.

[@1whocs486]

That poor woman that saw the pool deck collapse an didn't leave... Dang if she'd only run TF out ... Just so close 😭... I feel so bad she didn't realize what was happening

[@travelnc2g]

Deer in the headlights

[@StephenStHill-si7en]

Would she have made it out in time? Would the exit doors have been jammed shut? Would she have been safer on the edge of the balcony? What would be her chances if she jumped? How many hours of hindsight and detailed engineering analysis will we use to guess a solution?

[@pma9739]

According to the husband who was on the phone with her, the pool deck collapse happened only seconds before the line cut off. She probably wouldn't have made it out in time

[@WoodysAR]

I keep thinking about her... If only he had taken her on his "business trip". You see any prt of youe building fail? *_GTFO!_*

[@WoodysAR]

@@pma9739 This guy says they had minutes to talk before she cut off..

[@paradisopaul]

8:51 Maybe the floor or the unit itself was indeed shifting because Iliana Monteagudo said that her balcony door opened itself and when she tried to close it she couldn't do it, it was stuck, and then she realized of the crack coming down from the ceiling that made her run out of there because she knew the building was going to collapse.

[@paradisopaul]

@Blue Flu I think she's on her 60's. It wasn't her day definitely, she didn't took the sleeping pills that day so she wasn't totally asleep and she said something waked her up. I'm impressed too how quickly she realized, but also survived because she took the ''wrong'' stairs because she didn't know she had another stairs just next to her apartment. Her apartment (and the stairs she didn't took) collapsed when she was going down the stairs in the 4th floor of the part that didn't collapsed, she heard the whole thing going down and thought that was the end for her.

[@julief634]

@Blue Flu I hear ya! I would have rather collect my pets first. I will take the risk of dying while finding my pets cause if I leave without them i will never forgive myself.

[@mixedupmenopausaladhd3999]

@Blue Flu I believe she said she noticed the crack quickly opening up - she identified a dynamic situation immediately.

[@kathypriest95]

@@paradisopaul omg!

[@kathypriest95]

@Blue Flu thank you sir, my son is a cop. We also participated in CERT, community Emergency response Team. It was great fun and excellent for the civilian in an emergency. I took my course thru the fire department, became a trainer. My son used to participate in the final. We did a mock up disaster with triage. I think you would be perfect for this. 🥰✌

[@harpergrace5846]

I had hoped people were asleep and didn’t know what happened but after seeing this makes me think most knew something was wrong horrible way to go

[@anniefranks6881]

I’m certain they thought it was an earthquake & thankfully it happened so quickly they didn’t have time to grasp what was happening...prayers up for all the victims & the loved ones left behind🙏🏼💔

[@bellaladonna]

Thank you for showing us where we can send legit donations. RIP Cassandra Stratton and everyone else affected from this tragedy.

[@jenniferlee1993]

I'm so glad they were not home. I bet they felt very lucky.

[@hothotheat3000]

I’d go buy a lottery ticket!

[@craigusselman546]

That video is so creepy im glad they were not home.

[@tony--james]

@@craigusselman546 whats also creepy is the fact the owner of the cam, probably watched on her phone, wherever she was, or when she played it back , she must have been freaking

[@claudiacanales2662]

Blessed!

[@bokhans]

Survivor often feel guilt that they survived when so many others died, it can be a lot of pain to survive too! I am sure many survivors are under a lot of stress now on top of everything else like loosing their home!

[@Jakilyn]

I'm surprised we haven't seen more ring, blink and other security cam footage that folks saved to the cloud. Seems like everyone has them these days

[@DavidJao]

There might be more footage belonging to the deceased which we can't access because nobody else has access to it :(

[@gwtwvivien]

@@NachoKitty Kitty....I have that question too but I think that those cameras are in Investigation. I cant believe that this is the ONLY camera that shows something!

[@mmaranta785]

Passwords were lost when they died maybe

[@ecas4315]

Or even just cell phone videos of the people who noticed something weird was going on

[@ms.craftycapricorn9475]

It’s sad that we only get to see this is because she wasn’t home. I’m sure she is still shaken up about it ☹️

[@snogglewort1]

It’s honestly terrifying that a building can just… fall down. Like, just sit and think about that for a moment. RIP all those who never stood a chance 😔

[@germansnowman]

I know what you’re saying, but fortunately (though not much consolation for those affected), it didn’t “just fall down”. This disaster was a consequence of 40 years of neglect and failure to address maintenance issues. I recommend also watching the Building Integrity channel, they have excellent forensic analysis videos from a structural engineer’s perspective.

[@AudieHolland]

Concrete near the sea tends to deteriorate a lot quicker over the years than concrete that is not near the sea. Remember Alcatraz? The reason those prisoners could escape was because they kept 'digging' out the ventilation openings because the concrete was brittle there too.

[@AskMiko]

@@germansnowman more like 15 or 20 years neglect. Forty years neglect would imply it was older than 1981. Impossible for a new building to be in neglect mode after its construction is completed. Like saying a new car is in neglect after driving it off the lot. Year 1995 or 2000 and major repairs were put off were mentioned in HOA notes. Got worse from there.

[@dustyflair]

@@AskMiko the year it is completed monies should start being setaside to maintain the building sir.

[@zmoore5555]

Nothing just ...happens. Cause and effect my friend.

[@tlt-ell1193]

Thank you for all the hard work on your videos, Jeff, they're great! However, I need to offer a minor correction about Cassie Stratton. She was living in #410 at the time of the collapse, not #412. She & her husband had lived in #412 at one time, but moved to #410 about a year or so ago. (The owner of #412, Miguel Pazos, was recovered along with adult daughter who was visiting from out of town)

[@WoodysAR]

It gets 'white' because night security cams have INFRARED LEDs emitting IR light. To the naked eye, this apartment was probably pitch dark. The camera sees the IR light it shoots out, bouncing around the room lighting it up in IR (which we can't see but the camera can, it shifts it to visible light during recording) SO: anything close to the camera, gets VERY LIGHTED UP because the IR LED's are meant to 'light up' a 30 square foot area... We have had IR emmiters and cameras for some 30-40 years...

[@Lizuma]

That's very neat, thanks for explaining

[@mandylange4603]

The "washing machines" seen in the gate is actually the letter C in the gate. There is a diamond shape on the gate with a letter C in the middle of the diamond. C for Champlain.

[@michaelwerkov3438]

im confused about what your saying? like a literally letter c? where and from where?

[@Sylvie67]

@@michaelwerkov3438 I think she means the gate has the letter C on it surrounded by a diamond shape.

[@Snickers_GLNY]

Regarding the angle of the couch... may be lens distortion resulting from a wide angle lens.

[@HomeGypsy]

I think I might look at those images in more detail. Someone I follow during hurricanes uses Ring cameras for remote recording of the most dangerous places. I’ve seen EVERYTHING you can throw at a Ring camera. Some things in the visual plane of that couch didn’t appear to me as bowed as the floor did.

[@Snickers_GLNY]

@@HomeGypsy Thanks. Very interesting content and reports. Great work.

[@deedewald1707]

Well put & is showing bending of that 'table' / 'shelf' !

[@kookietherapy9398]

Or, the couch was placed on an angle.

[@andyspark5192]

GIF combining the first frame and the last frame only res.cloudinary.com/engineering-com/image/upload/v1626105120/tips/Ring_video_before_after_dv6ixg.gif

[@elizabethwolfgang4017]

For those who don't hear the groan of the building, use head phones or ear buds. Its an unbelievable sound.

[@HomeGypsy]

That’s what I’ve been saying! It makes a HUGE difference.

[@karlalvsmissy9437]

Yes, I heard the groaning sound too but didn’t use earplugs. I held phone closest to my ears. Scary stuff.

[@brendagore1115]

My phone was not up high but it was loud enough so horrific to hear.

[@EmilyLucille523]

Scary 😟

[@mtm4a]

@@karlalvsmissy9437 I live in a 4th floor apartment in the south of Spain, and a couple of years ago we had a very minor earth tremor at about 4 a.m. one morning. But what woke me up was a really strange groaning sound, I think quite similar to what we are hearing in this video, followed shortly after by the sound of some cupboard doors etc. trembling for about 10 seconds, but there was no damage. But it seems that an initial groaning sound can be a forerunner to a tremor, earthquake or collapse. Even though what I experienced was extremely mild, it was nevertheless very unnerving, and I exited the building hastily, using the stairs.

[@stevebabiak6997]

When the falling debris starts to come down at an angle, since we assume gravity will have the particles fall vertical to the surface of the ground, you can in your mind rotate the footage clockwise to bring the lines from the debris to be vertical. Doing that shows that the section of the building in this footage would be leaning to the right as the collapse is occurring.

[@Littlething41]

It's mind blowing and scary how structurally sound the building looked on the outside. So inviting and safe.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

Condos aren't for me. Lol. Nobody can help you during a big problem. Plus, comittees aren't the way to go, either. Nothing gets done. As we can see.

[@fw_andre]

Except a Birds Eye view . Ok so looking at th top of the balcony’s the balcony’s looked horrible anyway, and the roof looked bad too, other than the other one this one was bad

[@MrKusty63]

Can you explain why we don’t hear any car alarms in the tourist video. You think if the garage roof was falling on cars in the parking garage it would trigger their alarms.

[@bibistvlife8732]

Following ….

[@winecrimesfoodandtime7119]

True?

[@zoeclearwater]

@tconlon251 my new Audi alarm goes off with vibration all the time here in Florida from just lightening storms.

[@MrKusty63]

tconlon251 In most cars,or the ones I’ve had at least, when a window breaks the alarm should go off. Ultra sonic sensors i think.

[@MrKusty63]

zoeclearwater yeah that’s what I thought. Don’t know why they don’t go off even when the cars drop on the parking deck above the garage.

[@algheroman6476]

The lens of the RING camera is a semi-wide angle lens, so the edges always look curved and distorted. The further from the center the more the distortion and curved effects.

[@darealbriznady]

Camera probably set to record motion only, so it isn't a constant stream.

[@lilys7431]

I just put some in my elderly moms home and you are correct. Default is 60 second recording after motion detected.

[@mariogarcia2254]

@@lilys7431 you can increase the recording time and highly suggest you do. Up until 120sec

[@jeffostroff]

Yes, I have Ring also, and it is triggered by motion

[@racecitypatriot5017]

These ring camera's film inside the house too??? I know nothing about them.

[@qerupasy]

@@racecitypatriot5017 I think Ring has cameras that are not attached to a doorbell. The doorbell camera is just what they're most known for.

[@sutekh54]

you state the particles are shifting to the right ! I don't think this is valid. the particles are falling straight down... it's the room--floor ,walls ,ceiling that is leaning and as the camera is a part of that it lacks perspective. if you rotate the image in the last frames you can tell the tilt of the room..IMO the right side is collapsing downward. if a photo of the front of the building can be matched to the angle of the room a time frame can be set for the start of the collapse at the start of the tape.possibly 8-10 seconds before. just a wild thought.. SUTEKH

[@creamyalmondz]

You can see the panel bending. Thank goodness this owner was not home! How can anyone sleep during all that noise? The residents had no chance especially the older and disabled residents! 😢 Thank you for this recap, I read about all of those stories and wondered where they were in the building. Which apartment was that vacationing family in?

[@jonathandehn9910]

FYI Rings are not full 30fps video, this presumably uploaded to the server before all was lost. You can tell that each frame covers a fair amount of time by the length of the traces when things fall from the ceiling. This is particularly true in night mode.

[@HomeGypsy]

I was wondering if it was in night mode. Makes sense. Also explains the over-brightening.

[@deedewald1707]

Recording when motion is detected !

[@sheepdog457]

It’s unfortunate that the background music overwhelms the noises so they aren’t as easily audible.

[@rammur1]

Who was they guy that drove into the basement ,late at night ,and said to have backed out, after seeing flooding water, I saw on the tube?

[@RestorationRanchHealing]

I have been curious about this also. He drove in- supposedly has no electric in the condo- so he left in a bicycle and got a hotel ? I don’t know how accurate this story is - but this is what I remember. The tourist across the street have the garage video - I’m curious if the cones were for people to not hit the pillars ? Why is there not more from this guy?

[@kyber7503]

Anyone got a link?

[@travelnc2g]

@@RestorationRanchHealing comes to keep others from stealing spaces?

[@elizabethwilson9686]

@@RestorationRanchHealing the cones are for larger vehicles, like suvs, most condo building garages down there have them for larger vehicles.

[@bibistvlife8732]

Following

[@katanyajason3316]

I think that the fact that most of the survivors came from the area that collapsed first was that they had more warning (groaning, creaking and things falling). Once that part of the building collapsed, the rest collapsed too quickly for anyone to make it out in time.

[@kyleprocaccino4794]

The way the building sways slightly left to right just before the feed cuts out is haunting.

[@thoughtful_criticiser]

This is very interesting from a public information availability aspect. I am over 3 years into watching the Grenfell Tower Public Inquiry and only now more than 4 years after the fire are we seeing some of the information that you have obtained in relation to Champlain. I have had to watch the hearings every day for my information.

[@coydog3389]

from the image at 13:56 Assuming that the dust raining down follow gravity that room was tilting at about 30 degree with the right part of the frame high. Why are the stools by the bar still in place were they nailed down to the floor ?

[@froter1]

Bar stools are usual fairly heavy .. especially the more expensive ones ... Just a guess

[@HorseLuver098]

Probably from the shift of where it’s coming from.

[@HomeGypsy]

I also think the camera’s moving. Tilting gradually to our right.

[@deedewald1707]

The outer wall was being pulled right along with the camera !

[@deedewald1707]

@@HomeGypsy I like your comment !

[@Rggabriel]

Thank you Sir for going live. You enunciate your words well. For a foreigner like me, a Filipino, I understood your explanations well. Please stay safe always. I'll be looking forward for your next videos.

[@kathypriest95]

❤✌

[@markstanich64]

Movement n shifting sensors should be installed on all highrises world wide.

[@hgbugalou]

Disagree. That's a huge waste of money. Perhaps for buildings older than XX years. A better plan is for engineers to design buildings that fail ductilely and have enough redundancy to allow people the time to escape. This has philosophy has been much more taught and accepted post 9/11, so many modern buildings are designed with it in mind. It's the ones older than 20 years that maybe an issue.

[@horsewithnoname12345]

High rises naturally move. It’s better to get regular structural inspections and perform structural repairs and maintenance AS NEEDED WHEN IT IS NEEDED. Not to wait until the 40 year inspection to wait to check and see what’s wrong with the building.

[@derekskinner2347]

La reina is right. In a large high rise.... NYC ,Chicago etc. A building may stay 2 or 3 ft in high winds. This is engineered into the construction plans. Without it the shear force put on the building would rip it apart.

[@mixedupmenopausaladhd3999]

There were so many tells in this case that such data likely would have been ignored anyway. Concrete talks. People either listen or fail to act.

[@dizzysfan]

I was thinking pulling the fire alarm if given the chance would’ve alerted more residents...but then again, there wasn’t time! I can’t stop thinking about this devastation...so sorry to all those affected...

[@FortyTwoAnswerToEverything]

In that video, that huge snap you hear halfway through, shakes the TV box. I wonder if that was a floor tile snapping underneath it?

[@lexuses3942]

Those snaps you hear are the rebar snapping like a toothpick. Scary

[@KayInMaine]

Yup, seems like the most likely origin of the sound.

[@novelist99]

To me it sounds like a giant switch being clicked or a gear being moved into place.

[@RickSmiley]

Thought the exact same when I first saw this video. And the box jumps midway during the vid.

[@momwithaphonekitties3248]

Can’t believe no cameras from outside yet

[@Hifive91]

Same i find it incredible

[@gwtwvivien]

Hiding something? Maybe?

[@williamhaynes7089]

there were cameras in the garage too, watching real estate videos you clearly see them

[@mssha1980]

They have it but it likely hasn’t been released

[@rubyoro0]

The way I see it…they cannot hide anything. I mean they have to get down to the truth because of other condos.

[@kfourom]

Jeff, could you ask around to find out what the crew was doing with concrete or grout on tuesday. They left a poorly finished concrete circle with what t looks like some rebar sticking out. They put a lot of man hours in on this work.

[@melissasue2465]

I am plugging in my headphones to hear the moan of the building... very important to know and study the sound... so if you ever hear it... you can start running to save your life. 🙏

[@HomeGypsy]

I got that idea from studying hurricanes. To hear the wind forcing itself through all the little itsy-tiny openings in the structure of a large hotel (fave place for hurricane chasers) is one of the most amazing experiences ever.

[@melissasue2465]

@@HomeGypsy Hurricanes fascinate me. Edit: Mother nature fascinates me!

[@HomeGypsy]

@@melissasue2465 Oh, me too! My dad was an original Hurricane Hunter. Now I know why!

[@Bloodgt3]

It interesting the bar stools don't move tho. You would think they would slide to the left. Must have been stout

[@mikelemoine4267]

I noticed that too but it's probably that the building was shifting from the area of the camera first as it was facing inward from the beach side. The kitchen was closer to the corridor where there were more dividing walls to stabilize the room up to the last seconds. Just my guess, I'm not sure we'll ever know the whole reason for the way things happened aside from the initial failure point.

[@andreab449]

Cassondra Stratton's sister was on friend of the family's small KZbin channel few days before they found Cassondra (definitely her sister, showed her face, she's been on the News) she was saying that Cassondra had to wear boots to get to her car because garage so wet would have ruined her shoes, changed shoes in car and put boots into a bag.

[@Jakilyn]

Can't believe she just dealt with that, for the price of those condos

[@andreab449]

@@JakilynRight, I'd be furious! I'm sure they complained to the relevant people, her husband Michael Stratton is quite well known and doesn't seem the type to take any nonsense. Bet there is a list of excuses and broken promises given. I'm sure the whole story will come out from him himself in time.

[@mvp1839]

Link to video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3OopYx8aLCNptU

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

@@Jakilyn They have to vote to accept the assessment and do the work. From some of the comments there were some folks who didn't want to spend to improve their homes and others who were angry at those who refused to authorize to pay for repairs.

[@winecrimesfoodandtime7119]

Wow! Big red flag

[@nancylpr]

Yeah, he definitely has a great voice. He could make a great living out of it.

[@DillyDabblez]

He legit Sounds like Lighting McQueen in Cars 🤣

[@DR-nh6oo]

Get your mind back on the subject, lol.

[@nancylpr]

@@DR-nh6oo , I wasn't the only one who noticed! 🤣

[@indianajones3315]

Ray Liotta narration voice in Goodfellas.

[@meghand9685]

Sounds like Charlie Sheen for sure

[@jsm8149]

The couch is not slanted, it’s sitting slightly diagonal so the corner closest to the camera is closer to the outside wall and the other end is set back a little more. What you call lipping on the tile is probably a small rug.

[@dalewalker4614]

Agreed. I was a 3-D Draftsman back before CAD-CAM was born and did almost all 3-D mechanical drawings. If you look at the direction of the "lipping" of the floor tile and compare it to an imaginary line from the nearest leg on our left side of the couch to the nearest leg on the right side, you will see quite a pronounced difference in direction. The end of the couch on our right looks to be a couple of feet further away from the camera, creating a perspective on the right end of the couch that makes it appear to be elevated, although in reality it is not. The couch did slide to our left a few inches as the rebound in direction of the building occurred.

[@JubeProductions]

Also, the camera lens is fisheye, so things closer to the edges become more distorted.

[@kathypriest95]

There is an area rug but doesn't extend quite that far I think. Nothing else is "unsquare" except for that tile and the couch. But it seems to not mean anything. At first I thought the floor was buckled but it doesn't show how it all fell. There may be some more of it in the cloud 🤞and I hope more recording will surface

[@juliorodriguez9840]

Cassandra was in unit 410. She moved there in 2020. From 2017 to 2020 she lived in 412 but the unit belonged to Miguel Pazos and she had to move when the owner decided to live in his unit. Pazos and his daughter (412) died in the collapse.

[@danielreed5096]

Jeffostroff There is another video of the actual collapse that I wish you would analyze. Its a CBS News video called "Son shares how family survived Surfside condo building collapse" The footage of the collapse seems to be from a security camera on the oval building next door and is at 1:33 - 1:40 of the video.

[@Torturephile]

That's the demolition of the non-collapsed portion of the building.

[@marketrealist1221]

The black refrig (you see straight on) becomes very slanted in relation to the white counter-top with the 4 stools. Also the dark color box like item on the right side near the wall beam gets seemingly moved a little and tilted.

[@KayInMaine]

Yes. That whole wall from the double doors to the right is sinking. Stop the nest camera video right at the beginning and you can see that the thin white wall (between double doors & kitchen area) is straight and the ceiling area above the double doors is still high. Now go to near the end when the thin white beam/wall is leaning to the right....the ceiling area about the doors has sunk quite a bit!). Seems the hallway outside between the condos was the collapsing part???? Dunno.

[@melaniebuford]

Buildings collapsing in the middle of the night. Years of negligence and foundation issues. Condo phobia. And I would of loved to hear Cassondra Stratton’s story on what she saw. I hate that she did make it to tell her story. Life is short.

[@kineahora8736]

Wasn’t it a fictional character named “Cassandra” who is known for constant fear “the sky is falling”? Such tragic irony…

[@melaniebuford]

@@kineahora8736 except the fictional character is “Cassandra” each spelled differently.

[@coreym162]

Yeah :/ You'd think she and many others would have made it since that side was the last to go and the rest of the building would have broken that side's fall. The building was in terrible shape added by the initial collapse from what was already bad. Shame

[@kineahora8736]

@@melaniebuford what’s an O among friends?

[@melaniebuford]

@@kineahora8736 omg does it matter? The victim is named Cassondra. You spelled it “Cassandra.” Two different spelled names. It’s not ironic at all.

[@avi8r66]

Before the second frame that shows the blurry stuff raining down that looks like debris, maybe shattered safety glass, in the foreground. If so then the window or sliding door already flexed at that point and shattered out the glass.

[@ForeverMPH]

Yes, I think you're right. I noticed that, too. I think the building had already shifted enough to make the motion detecting camera start recording, and that's what shattered the glass and made the flooring uneven.

[@tyreevongsaly]

Praying for the Condo Collapse in Surfside, FL.

[@SewFloSewing]

the box didnt just move in one frame, the ring camera in the beginning is just a default view that kinda pops up before it updates to live view, so youre looking at something captured in the past, the video truly starts on the frame where the box has fallen over, thats when the camera was triggered, the couch is probably just distorted, our ring camera that is outside has similar warping around the edges due to the lens on it.

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

The TV box does pop at 0:09 when the recording was consistent.

[@SewFloSewing]

@@-._.-KRiS-._.- yeah its moving alittle during the clip but it seemed like he thought it fell over from the wall in the video and that it fell over real fast but I was just saying it was already tipped over when the video started so we missed it actually falling over since it takes a couple seconds for the camera to trigger.

[@kingoghearts1]

If they can fix hubble photos , they can fix these photos and eliminate the fish eye look

[@Alwaysinthegarden68]

8:35 is when you finally see the said video in title.

[@jeffostroff]

You are wrong. 0:26 is when you immediately see the full 13 seconds of the said video in the title. I showed the entire Ring video first, then did the frame by frame? How could you possibly miss that? If you're going to criticize a video, at least watch the video first and don't do a book report on a book you never read. Now you just trashed your credibility in front of everyone here. LOL, thanks for the good laugh though.

[@_D_E_N_N_I_S_]

@@jeffostroff damn dude chill. It’s not that deep lol

[@_D_E_N_N_I_S_]

@@jeffostroff also they are right. They time stamped when the frame by frame analysis starts, which is the title of the video.

[@danielaguilar6460]

I noticed that Champlain south has more balconies on floors 9, 10, and 11 middle of the building on the pool deck side. Champlain North does not have these balconies. I also noticed that those balconies are not in the original plans. Is it possible these were added later on? Possibly added more weight to the already weakened columns?

[@Zaphod964]

I was under the impression that the entire penthouse wasn't on the plans originally. The extra loads added up likely accelerated the time it took for the concrete to deteriorate.

[@myownbiz5461]

Originally, just like C-North, there were only 12 stories, with the 12th to be the PH. They decided to add a 13th floor with one massive PH and I suspect that the 12th floor balconies were also added to create some difference between that and the lower floors, as they were still billing them as PH units. There was a height restriction but the developers managed to get a waiver (for what, we might ask) to put this in. The PH was recently sold in May, I think and there are some jaw-dropping pictures if it's still in MLS. Granite, marble all over the place and..just like Jeff pointed out on the regular unit upgrades over years, that HAD to add a LOT of weight!

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

It failed from the front. There's 3 columns that were the issue. Please see Building Integrity.

[@Zaphod964]

@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 I'm not trying to dispute where the failure started. Simply discussing that with the extra loads added to the structure it possibly accelerated the time it took to decay.

[@808spicysushi]

I have a ring camera and it distorts the view. It’s circular. The edges go upward because the lens is round. So I believe the sofa is not tilting, nor are the walls.

[@jeffostroff]

The partition wall in the kitchen was vertical at the start of the video then it goes at an angle

[@missmoxie9188]

You’re right. The Ring camera is a ‘fish eye’ lens. The kitchen partition he keeps talking about wouldn’t be distorted by a fish eye lens though.

[@WistfulLioness]

I've been binge watching you and geeking out with your analysis. I really want to thank you for showing the media circus. I volunteered with the Red Cross in 97 and was involved in the flooding of the Red River of the North in Grand Forks, ND. It really changed my opinion of all the news stations.

[@stacey33030]

You have the most amazing gift of your voice and attention to detail. This is so painful to watch, but something about how delicately you explain in detail what most likely happened, almost brings a peace to the story!! Please make this a weekly or monthly thing! Maybe you can go back into history and find other structures that have collapsed and research it with us!! Or even in other countries. That would be so so amazing!!!

[@believer8662]

Awwwwww. Noises were heard, it seems, up to 40 minutes before the collapse. I understand that it was not thought of as an emergency because no one knew what they were hearing, but still heart-breaking.

[@tomk1974]

I feel offended by the comments implying that the victims were stupid for not doing things differently. Who hears some noises, sees something outside collapse, and automatically thinks the whole building they are in to collapse also?

[@seriouscat2231]

@@tomk1974, true, not many. It's also called confirmation bias. It makes one to assume that whatever happens is limited to the pool deck.

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

I'm paranoid. I split like a banana early on. Lol

[@mikerequadt9661]

Hi Jeff I've watch a few of the video's showing the collapse, a lot have shown the Architectural drawings (A); haven't seen any structural drawing (S), on the structural details you'll see how the reinforcing rod is composed tied into the columns and slabs, just offhand it looks like the middle support columns are too small. For a building that size you would expect something in the order of 1 meter wide columns with heaps of rebar in it, there would be also good size beams too, tieing into the columns. Can you get a hold of the a complete set of structural drawings? I was a Quantity Surveyor, having done literally thousands of quotes, and things just don't look right, you'd know more once you see the structural drawings. Good reporting job, more through than most.

[@wendyannh]

Jeff has shown them in prior videos, and has spoken at length about the problems with the size of a number of the columns.

[@kineahora8736]

I believe I only saw one of these prior videos and in it, Jeff mentioned the columns in the part of the building still standing were visibly wider than the rest of the columns and immediately questioned why the columns in the collapsed part of the building looked to him like “pencils”. It seems to me with the structural science we have achieved in the last century, it only served to teach us how cheap and skimpy we can make a structure and still have it barely enough to stand for a limited time while saving lots of $$ to big developers on cost = $$ profits. Meanwhile there are buildings from 1920 in New York that look solid as a rock, and of course we have buildings from the ROMAN FRICKIN’ EMPIRE that are still largely standing-just by not knowing how skimpy they could make them…

[@williamhaynes7089]

@@kineahora8736 - the pool deck columns didn't have 12 floors above them so I don't think being smaller is an issue

[@kineahora8736]

@@williamhaynes7089 Jeff correctly noticed that not just pool deck columns but *all* the columns in the collapsed part of the building were significantly narrower than the columns in the portion of the towers that still stands, including columns that supported the collapsed part of the building. I think the columns that supported only the pool deck and not the collapsed portion of the building were yet thinner still… I think architecturally these square-profile support structures when attached to walls are more accurately termed pilasters…

[@douglasuhde799]

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN STATE/COUNTY BUILDING INSPECTORS TAKE PAYOFFS TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY WHEN CONTRACTORS ARE CUTTING CORNERS ON WORKMANSHIP AND MATERIALS! THE FAULT LIES WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTORS!

[@franknosko6215]

Possible but the building stood for 40 years Doug. Poor maintenance and an improperly installed paver system appears to be the cause. Water on the pool deck seeped through the cracks to the water proofing under the pavers. This soaked the slab and the columns that resulted in their deterioration. Jeff showed pictures of water intrusion in the garage ceiling deck. Having been a mechanical contractor in the Miami the inspections were done by private engineers on the buildings we were involved with. They were very detailed driven and picky.

[@dmhendricks]

LOUD NOISES!

[@loladennler571]

Ask the HOA how many times they were informed of the damage/decay of this building. Should have been condemned though.

[@Superbluegirl1991]

I just noticed that at the VERY end of the video, that edge immediately to the left of the camera's view suddenly compresses inward right before it goes black. It's very hard to see at first, but slowing it down to 0.25 made me gasp. Terrifying. EDIT: I forgot to add that it's a lot easier to see in the original video (the exposure/light is too high for it to be noticed in this video). Original: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4G6i2tog75ngM0

[@M_Baker9ersFan]

Good catch. I just noticed it watching the original video again

[@Iconoclasher]

Where the box against the wall suddenly moves, I think the camera stopped recording momentarily and restarted. There's no way that box could move that fast between frames without flying across the room.

[@abstractaspect]

Alot of security cameras don't capture at high frame rates, usually less than 30 fps for cheaper cameras.. which this appears to be (definitely not a Ring camera like the title says). So if it happened very very fast, the camera would appear to lag slightly, enough to show such a jump.

[@Iconoclasher]

@@abstractaspect It's crazy isn't it? HD cameras are so cheap nowadays I can't understand security cameras generating videos with the resolution of a 1927 mechanical television. That camera in that unit isn't good enough to recognize a burglar.

[@stevesims2243]

could it be missing frames?

[@Iconoclasher]

@@stevesims2243 I doubt that. There's no purpose in removing frames. That room is holding no secrets as to the cause of the collapse.

[@Lizuma]

The groaning is absolutely terrifying. I already get nervous of any unfamiliar noises I hear at night...but I cant imagine this...

[@ncc1701chris]

I don't know if you noticed but in that ring camera Photo if you look at the bar or counter in the background just before the shot ends you'll see the bar is higher on the right that is the left when I say bar I mean that bar or counter object in the background with the 4 stools in front of it. It seems its getting lower on the left by the wall that's shifting towards the entry way.

[@gracieg7601]

Thsts groan the building makes gives me the creeps. It sounds like when I had a collapse I was in one time. Ptsd I guess.

[@kathypriest95]

✌🙏 you survived. Take care

[@chairmanofrussia]

I don’t want to make you relive it, but if you’re willing, do you think you could maybe tell us what it looks like from the inside when a building goes down like that during the collapse?

[@gracieg7601]

@@kathypriest95 if your talking to me , yes, my spine was broken in three places. It was nothing as serious as this I promise. But I had no idea I even had any memory if it. But when I heard that noise groan sound it was like oh Gosh. That made me get chills. I even told my son. He was like oh mom. Wow. It was when i was 21 yrs old. Even before he was even born. Lol it still gives me a chill to hear that groan.

[@horsewithnoname12345]

It might have been a car backing into a column, or scraping an already weakened column bad enough some time earlier during the day or even week or more. It could have been the proverbial drop with already severely weakened columns. Do I think that’s what happened? Probably not, but one needs to keep an open mind. Perhaps security footage may tell us more in the future. It is extremely common for people to scrape and hit the columns in such parking garages. It happens constantly in my building. (They do maintain them well, they’re wrapped in quake wrap and a few months ago they x rayed them all to check on them).

[@juliecornwell4731]

I wondered, too, if someone could have ran into columns.

[@seriouscat2231]

When everything started coming down it was because the slab had separated from the columns. The interface between the slab and the columns was the problem. There's where the structural integrity had disappeared due to rebar separating from the concrete because there was no functional waterproofing to begin with. It would have come down anyway without an actual triggering event.

[@juliecornwell4731]

I hope they will in time be able to do a thorough investigation and make determinations of what exactly happened, but right now they have to worry about those who passed, their belongings that could be retrieved, the survivors, etc. People trying to put their lives back together.

[@gailgrove]

I cannot see a car causing enough force to damage a column, at least not at typical parking garage speeds...

[@horsewithnoname12345]

@@gailgrove you’re assuming people drive slowly. Many people drive pretty fast and back out quickly. If a column already presents spalling, damaged worn out concrete etc, then yet another scrape or bang can be just the proverbial drop in the bucket to have it collapse. It doesn’t have to collapse immediately, it could just weaken it so much that at some point it just couldn’t keep up anymore.

[@darenyoung1872]

I still say that the pool deck was weak and could not take the weight over the years of neglect of proper maintenance and probably improper drainage of the pool deck. The weight of all those planters in that specific area the pool deck couldn't take it any more. That dose look like a planter in the parking garage in that video

[@elizabethwilson9686]

The drain at the entrance ramp was also leaking, you can see the cracks from it in the video of the garage, the water was leaking down into the slab. I'm willing to bet under the pool deck and the garage slab, there was a void under it all from water from various things, the planters, the ramp drain, the pool deck, no water proofing, and high tide waters coming in, all creating erosion creating a void, this building didn't have a chance, it's clear the punch shearing is also another factor due to water erosion.

[@darenyoung1872]

@@elizabethwilson9686 yes I agree very bad workmanship and bad maintenance of the building. I was also looking at the roof the roof was very dirty compared to its sister building which is clean

[@brasilgirl2848]

I don’t know about the workmanship as it was a forty year old building that was not kept up. They were just starting to work on the roof before the collapse. The other buildings were probably better maintained.

[@rickh5088]

Also if you look at pictures from the building towards the pool there are some pictures that show a long line of a depression up against the perimeter wall. Not between the pool and the wall, but pretty much as the pool ends and extending down maybe 15-20 feet away from the pool (so it would be moving from the pool to the right from the angle of the building). I can't remember exactly which video had the pictures, but it was one of this channel's earlier analysis of the collapse. The one (or one of the ones) talking about the pictures from the guy checking over the pool maintenance area. It was pretty obvious if you were looking in the right area, but easy to miss if you are focused on the pool itself. It is easier to see if you are focusing on the perimeter wall and then it becomes obvious. Not sure the reason for it or if it had even the slightest bit to do with the collapse, but worth pointing out at least.

[@yayayarelis]

That’s the planter box! 😯 and the moaning of the building is HAUNTING

[@johnd9031]

Designing a structure so if one part fails the entire structure comes down. Poor engineering.

[@williamhaynes7089]

1981 for ya, and you can talk to the developer he died in 2014

[@ssoffshore5111]

Had everything been in good condition, a single failure likely would not have caused this much damage. But we know there was significant concrete and rebar damage all around at least one area of the building and pool deck. They will likely find multiple failures which caused this... many, if not all, could've been avoided with proper inspection and maintenance.

[@ocsrc]

These apartments were soooo expensive. I don't know how anybody could have afford to live there if they were not multi millionaires. They must have been rich. Average people making 15.00 an hour can't even afford an efficiency apartment in any city You need to be making 30.00 an hour to be able to afford a basic one bedroom apartment in most cities. Seeing every single family house in every state selling for 500k and up, usually over a million, and they all are selling for 150% of asking price and ALL for CASH the listings all day CASH ONLY 1 day sale I mean, who has 2 million dollars in cash ??!! Seriously And they are all selling like that I do searches and the buyers own dozens of multi million dollar homes I don't understand why people would buy a 3 million dollar house and have it sit empty 11 months out of the year. SERIOUSLY, I AM NOT KIDDING THESE HOUSES ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THEY SIT EMPTY EXCEPT FOR 3 OR 4 WEEKS OUT OF THE YEAR, WHEN THEY COME ON VACATION OR WHATEVER. Housing is impossible to get and they are buying " vacation homes " Just sick

[@jeffostroff]

Many people lived there 10+ years, bought when they were priced $200,000

[@JohnD-JohnD]

Google drove by that parking garage entrance in January. Maybe compare what it looked like before to what it looked like when 7 minutes prior to collapse?? (Google street view) And those circles people think are laundry units.. Are the logo on the gate.

[@cashette]

Jeff, I think your ring video is missing a second at the end where the frame violently shakes before going dark. The camera appears to slide to the left.

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

Nope, that's the end of the feed. The image that shows up at the end is the still image the camera took before it started recording. You can tell its an earlier image because the archway to the kitchen is still in an upright position.

[@photographicswoman3538]

Jeff, as a professional photographer I can help you with a few issues regarding this video. To begin with, please know I have watched the Ring footage quite a few times outside of your video. Ring cameras use a wide angle lens (a lens which is less than 35mm on a camera with interchangeable lenses) which is why the image appears the be bowed towards the viewer, and why the furniture on the right seems to be on an incline. At the point in the video where everything goes white, the Ring camera is slightly shifted from its original position, giving the viewer a slightly different vantage point. This video provides invaluable data, however it’s necessary to understand the issues I’ve addressed when analyzing the footage. On a different note, I want to thank you for all of your hard work concerning the videos you’ve published concerning the late Champlain Towers South. Having once worked for an engineering firm, I know it is an extremely technical field and not easy to understand. You have a wonderful way of breaking down complex information so those of us who are not engineers can understand. You and Building Integrity are the only two KZbin channels I watch in an attempt to understand this catastrophe. Thank you for your time and expertise, and please know I greatly appreciate all of your hard work.

[@hotdog31227]

For a split second at the end of the clip at the beginning, you can definitely see lots of shaking

[@MrJhofree]

Pretend you are sleeping, close your eyes and listen to the part of the video when the building does all the noise. I did it in my room, dark and alone and freaked me out, I bet that’s how all those poor people experienced it before seeing their whole rooms collapsed on them. 😞. Most of them likely woke up to the initial noises and shaking and a couple seconds later saw everything coming down on them. 😢

[@A83-A83]

It's sad to think that maybe more could have made it out had ONE person of pulled the fire alarm.

[@paullyrenee]

That building went down so fast it would have been impossible.

[@jsm8149]

There are a lot of “if’s” in this tragedy.

[@CDurham1]

I live in a high rise building in a northern state....have been here 17 years.. built the same year as champlain towers.. I am honestly appalled at what must have seemed like normal and accepted noise from the building to the people who lived in it. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to noise than most people but the ring video here was enough to make me say WTF.. that being said I've also had the opportunity to inspect our building up close.. if not for that I wouldn't feel safe here.

[@DarkLightHuntress]

Didn't see any cracks, but the wall to the left looked like it was bulging out at the end

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

Good catch. I didn't notice that until you said something.

[@ajwhitehill6368]

@jeffostroff I enhanced the entire video clip, do you have an public email I can send the link to?

[@Chronically_JBoo]

Rewatching everything close to the 1 year anniversary and not only is it sick n messed up that 98 humans lost their lives but I now realized a lot of pets also passed away. I'm hugging my kitties tightly rn. The ring video about that family being out at the time reminds me of my sisters husband was supposed to start work in the WTC not sure which tower but he slept in and missed the whole thing

[@steffenk2094]

Looking at the original video on twitter without the high brightness, you actually can see the building is moving all the time. The shadow on the wall next to the TV is constantly moving...first slowly, then faster towards the end of the video... Also the wall/column on the left curved more and more to left during the video. The last frame of the inside footage shows that the building actually collapses. The wall/column on the left is breaking at the top third of the image and additional cracks appear at the ceiling right next to it. Also the immediate pic after the initial frame looks like the wall is that tilted so that the TV box already fell :O This could mean the building was tilted already including the camera itself.

[@wendyannh]

Could you post a link to that copy of the video?

[@easyteh4getperson]

i agree and i also watched the original video from twitter. its so shocking how the building moves so fast.

[@robinandhismom]

Can you post Twitter link to the original video?

[@toobraider]

Search "miami collapse security" under the video tab on Twitter

[@arnoldomarin411]

@@wendyannh kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4G6i2tog75ngM0&feature=share this is the link from KZbin