Jeffree Star CAUGHT in yet another LIE… are we shocked?

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Angelika Oles

Angelika Oles

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@eyecu382
@eyecu382 2 жыл бұрын
There was no ethical reason behind his vegan cruelty free make up line - he just knew it would sell better and make him more money. Also, don't care about him selling meat but just don't lie about it, its the dishonesty people don't like. x
@daddy4967
@daddy4967 2 жыл бұрын
There are many people, such as myself, who eat meat, but will only use vegan cosmetics/beauty products because of our ethics.
@daddy4967
@daddy4967 2 жыл бұрын
To add to my point, I really don’t understand why people (especially vegans 🥴) are mad at him for having a vegan cosmetic line? Like either way because it’s vegan it’s relatively more inclusive and helping to save many animals lives.
@AlexBbyCakes
@AlexBbyCakes 2 жыл бұрын
@@123blacksheep Ethical slaughter isn’t a thing. Neither is humane killing of an animal that doesn’t want to be killed.
@two8000
@two8000 2 жыл бұрын
@@daddy4967 pretty sure most ppl are mad at him for lying about it
@robynbrake2107
@robynbrake2107 2 жыл бұрын
@@123blacksheep but the point is he lied because he said he would not do this and wasn’t raising the yaks for profit (slaughtering them for their meat) and that they were family/pets. I’m not vegan either but that’s not ok it was a blatant lie to make people like him more and feel better
@madlymars
@madlymars 2 жыл бұрын
Him throwing in “womens rights” is just like when he threw out breonna Taylor. Deflect deflect deflect
@lucyan1032
@lucyan1032 2 жыл бұрын
tbh if he just started with this narrative from the beginning i don’t think this would be as big of a deal
@sonofthesea_x
@sonofthesea_x 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who was born and raised on a farm this is actually really common. We named a lot of the pigs we ended up butchering. You kinda become desensitized to it after a while.
@sacha3296
@sacha3296 2 жыл бұрын
but did you post them on instagram and prance them around?
@robynbrake2107
@robynbrake2107 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is he said he wouldn’t do so to make people feel better and like him more but he lied and proceeded to slaughter them for meat which is super low
@sonofthesea_x
@sonofthesea_x 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I'm not saying what he did wasn't shitty. I was just giving my own experience when it comes to that in general.
@Priceless_Paige
@Priceless_Paige 2 жыл бұрын
Also you can tell the people that have never been or heard of 4H.
@amy_dsc
@amy_dsc 2 жыл бұрын
I understand u 👀 to every person things are different..
@R83145
@R83145 2 жыл бұрын
Lying about pointless things. That's just Jeffree Star. We all know where meat comes from. No need to deny it.
@sophie265
@sophie265 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding GMO: from a biological standpoint there's nothing wrong or dangerous about GMO, it's essentially selective breeding, just faster. Now there's some ethical issues with companies selling GMO seeds that won't grow several years in a row making poor farmers pay the high price every year. But GMO is fantastic science that can save millions of lives and our enviroment if done correctly
@jades1363
@jades1363 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah went to the comments to say just this: GMOs are not dangerous to health at all - it’s just some marketing trick people use to make food sound healthier, just like how people used to say MSG isn’t good for you but nothings wrong with that either.
@kimrobbins3318
@kimrobbins3318 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has lived and worked on a farm, his behavior is actually pretty normal. I don’t eat meat because of health issues, but to be honest his behavior towards the animals was completely normal for farm kids. And to be completely honest, he has actually donated meat to some of the poor people in Wyoming. Now I get it but considering he has helped feed some of my family, I felt thankful. And I understand people being angry because they feel angry, and that is okay and I get it. But he has honestly been helping to feed a community struggling with feeding itself for decades. Now, he is wrong for lying, and it’s not all right. And as my family has been in this industry for generations I don’t find what he’s doing wrong, I even find it admirable, but he didn’t have to try to misdirect his fan base.
@CS-zb7hx
@CS-zb7hx 2 жыл бұрын
Right. I hate Jeffree but a lot of the commentary on this specific thing feels like 'city folk react to basic rancher/farmer behavior'.
@johno.b4718
@johno.b4718 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I don't agree with the criticism based on the "don't butcher the animal you play with like a pet" argument but this is very manipulative of him. he lied blatantly. I don't personally have any issues with him selling meat and having a cruelty free makeup brand. But he specifically said he won't do what he is currently doing and it was shady from the get go. His explanation back then wasn't convincing at all and I guess now we know why. you appreciate his service to the community. Awesome! love that! still his behaviour and statements are manipulative, full of lies, and he deserves to be dragged for this.
@JustAStump
@JustAStump 2 жыл бұрын
@@CS-zb7hx literally though
@satiricgames2129
@satiricgames2129 2 жыл бұрын
@@CS-zb7hx 100 , it's pretty fustrating
@marialauraverso
@marialauraverso 2 жыл бұрын
@@CS-zb7hxup. also indigenous raise/hunt animals and have a way deeper spiritual connection with the land and ways to honour the meat they eat. no shade at all to angelika, like you said pretty normal city folk behaviour, but it is really funny how some ppl who think eating animals is something inherently evil act when they learn farmers/ranchers etc care with affection to their animals opposing to the mass production and slaughter system they criticize (and rightly so). they don't want the animals to be "just a number" and "just food" and ppl to be aware of where their food comes from but when they do and know how the animals are cared for and etc is weird, cold, evil etc... i guess it's just a matter of actually learning how farming is done, specially locally and not eating up every greenwashed propaganda they feed us these days...
@negligible_reality
@negligible_reality 2 жыл бұрын
He could have just been honest about his intentions from the start and it wouldn't have been such a big deal lol. Like even if he truly didn't plan on selling meat at first and later on down the line changed his mind, he could have just been honest about it instead of attacking people online and trying to gaslight everyone. I have no problem with him selling meat, it is his farm after all and he can do whatever he likes with it. The problem is that he lied and got very angry and defensive when people called him out. That's just how he is though, and I don't see him changing any time soon lmao.
@katea.5013
@katea.5013 2 жыл бұрын
Naming animals on farms is actually pretty common, especially smaller farms, but marketing the yaks as anything but farm animals and being shady about his true purpose and witholding the real intentions about them being butchered is whats weird
@ImAmericanMade01
@ImAmericanMade01 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like Jeffery but that’s what ya do on a farm, raise animals and sell the meat, I don’t eat meat but it’s the circle of life for meat eaters I guess. But if he is not telling the truth it’s not shocking.
@ImAmericanMade01
@ImAmericanMade01 2 жыл бұрын
@@123blacksheep yesssss I wanted to say Something along those lines but I didn’t wanna be rude so thank you 😂
@thetalker221
@thetalker221 2 жыл бұрын
I just don’t like how he’s trying to make money off it also, it’s probably going to be expensive so not accessible to a lot of people. I think if he shared his personal journey with the benefits of self raised meat that would be one thing, but going into this field with his name as the face of the brand is a little off-putting to me. Gives me money laundering vibes
@beastlybellaten
@beastlybellaten 2 жыл бұрын
I guess
@ImAmericanMade01
@ImAmericanMade01 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetalker221 I just read somewhere where he was feeding people who couldn’t afford food allegedly so I don’t know if that’s true but if so good for him.
@joshuar7722
@joshuar7722 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up on a farm we used to name our cows and sheep and pigs, feed them, hang out with them, all knowing full well that eventually they would turn into meat on the table. I don’t see any issue with it.
@JustAStump
@JustAStump 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 🤦🏻‍♀️
@jrdnbly93
@jrdnbly93 2 жыл бұрын
The issue isn't that he's killing them. People assumed that's what he was going to do when he first showed off the yaks. But when people brought it up, he got defensive for no reason and started calling people crazy and liars. That's the issue
@pandoraskiesYT
@pandoraskiesYT 2 жыл бұрын
When he got that farm, I knew that's what he was going to do. How else is he going to turn a profit from petting yaks?
@sabrinacoccagna742
@sabrinacoccagna742 2 жыл бұрын
Why do we still give him attention? The best thing we can do is NOT TALK ABOUT HIM OR SUPPORT HIM
@jinnyweaver
@jinnyweaver 2 жыл бұрын
He'll become the new Bond villain if we aren't careful !
@audreygibson4780
@audreygibson4780 2 жыл бұрын
Making the makeup vegan just means more ppl will buy it. Business decision not personal conviction
@00Rav3n00
@00Rav3n00 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like people wouldn't have a problem with Jeffree's business if he was honest. All he had to do was say, "I'm raising some Yaks as pets, and some for profit." I think the real problem is the lying.
@daniefox8770
@daniefox8770 2 жыл бұрын
I eat meat and am working towards having a farm where I will at least have egg chickens (doing the farming one step at a time lol) The issue with Mr. Star is he lied, again, and was just a dick about it. He could have been open. jerky doesn't just one day happen, it takes planning, butchering, and drying, plus the whole business part of it. Have a farm and sell all the meat you want, just don't lie and gaslight ppl for no reason other than drama and the need to be right.
@flannerymcgovern4869
@flannerymcgovern4869 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up raising steers and we would name them and love them and then butcher them. I know that sounds very odd to people who only have had pets and didn’t grow up on a farm. But they had as good of a life as we could give them. It’s weird he lied about it, but from a farming perspective it’s pretty normal thing to do. From the outside it looks like the yaks are living a good life and that’s at least one good thing Jeffrey has done 🙄
@LAutobusbus
@LAutobusbus 2 жыл бұрын
in high school my friend had a pig, they raised him from baby to big boi, he would even go inside the house and shit. the goal was always to eat him initially, but I was concerned her little sister wouldn't understand that. then I learned that the little girl named the pig: Bacon.
@doodles1331
@doodles1331 2 жыл бұрын
@@LAutobusbus this caught me off guard 😂💀
@Novemberstruck
@Novemberstruck 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like Jeffree, but I've heard from a lot of people who have "pet" cows, chickens, etc. and separate animals that are meant for meat.
@denegwynn2869
@denegwynn2869 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, since you said you were interested: county bumpkin here raised in the ass end of New Zealand. We grew and slaughtered/butchered a lot of our own meat. Even with all those artificial flavours and growth hormones (not that there used much in my country anyways), store bought meat just can’t compete with a well feed happy cow or pig or sheep. We would name them and bottle feed a lot of the lambs and calves but we were just taught not to get emotionally attached pretty early in because they were gonna end up as dinner. Circle of life if you ask me.
@shelbynicole3386
@shelbynicole3386 2 жыл бұрын
he said he has separate farms! a personal one with the yaks he’s named, and one for production.
@pieisawsome3
@pieisawsome3 2 жыл бұрын
This is worse
@JustAStump
@JustAStump 2 жыл бұрын
@@pieisawsome3 pretty normal actually 😅 thats just how alot of farms work
@pieisawsome3
@pieisawsome3 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustAStump normal doesn't mean it isn't messed up though. And I am aware how farms work
@JustAStump
@JustAStump 2 жыл бұрын
@@pieisawsome3 it's literally not messed up though. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Him lying was messed up. But thats the only thing wrong here.
@lydiaxof
@lydiaxof 2 жыл бұрын
i grew up on a farm & around farmers and still think this is weird 😭 i’m veggie now, but even when i wasn’t i always thought having a pet and eating/farming animals of the same species was SO bizarre
@tjockad
@tjockad 2 жыл бұрын
He never said he was never going to sell meat. He was saying that sh*t about loving them about a year or more ago, and at that time he was probably not doing those things. The yaks in the pictures might be ones he keeps as pets, we don't know. Changing your mind and evolving your business based on that change is not lying - it's just stupid. Jeffree is a strange and problematic person, we know that. I don't like him but this critique is sloppy. Naming an animal meant for slaughter is not uncommon. That's what's happening on those small scale farms you seem to like. They don't get names in a large-scale meat-factory. You can make one vegan product without being a vegan company. It's also very common. Please don't get into the whole GMO-debate. GMOs are not bad by default and genetic modofication has been done to every crop regardless if you grow it in your garden or if it's grown in an industrial setting. You claim to be uncomfortable with trying to influence other peoples ideologies but huge parts of this video is you being naive and talking about how some things feel right and some things feel wrong regardless of the facts behind your statements. You are ill-informed about so many things regarding agriculture, farming, animal husbandry etc and still that is largely where you seem to base your arguments. In ideological and subjective feelings about things you know very little about. You are good at discussing tea, and this is not tea. This is reaching in my mind.
@freyaalinaceleste
@freyaalinaceleste 2 жыл бұрын
This comment here is EXACTLY my point. I don’t like Jeffree myself, he is a problematic person, but having grown up on, and spent a lot of time on many a farm this is just how farming works. Most natural farmers treat their animals like pets, they care about them and want them to live a good life until their time comes. Even dairy cows often end up in the slaughter when they’re past it and go into animal food etc. That is just how it works. I can’t explicitly say, oh he didn’t lie, but have these people never had an idea after their original one? He trademarked every area, are they gonna cry when he starts selling yak wool ponchos? No. I think people just have a vehement need to hate everything he does. I understand the people that are anti-meat in the first place being upset, they’d be upset if it was any farmer, but how does everyone else think their meat comes to their plate..? Would they prefer if it was all factory farmed with no quality of life? At the end of the day, people are just heated because it’s Jeffree and it’s a hot topic. Had any other person opened a farm because they were interested in the animal, then later researched produce related to that animal and pursued one of these routes then no one would bat an eyelid. But it’s cool to hate for the sake of it.
@cccc7534
@cccc7534 2 жыл бұрын
I used to see his beautiful yaks on his snap story and then once i saw the meat i immediately felt sick to my stomach, how could he kill these beautiful innocent animals for money when he’s already super rich?! it’s just sick people like that will do any and everything for money not realizing money is not the key to happiness.
@1000colours
@1000colours 2 жыл бұрын
As a meat eater who's slowly switching to a mostly plant-based diet for health and ethical reasons, I'd honestly prefer to eat meat from a farm that treats the animals with respect and gives them love. Not something I could do as a job personally, but I think it's so much better than factory farming... what a bizarre thing to lie about though, when you already know you're going to sell the meat. As if no one would find out when you're publically selling your products 😂
@robynbrake2107
@robynbrake2107 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s so low because he lied and said they were family/pets to make people feel better and like him more when he planned on using them for profit and slaughtering them for their meat
@mylastduchess9998
@mylastduchess9998 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a vegetarian. This makes me sick and VERY angry. I was never a fan of Star but I AM a granddaughter of family farmers. We didn't name animals intended for slaughter. I grew up on family raised meats. I was so spoiled to the quality of fruits and vegetables I got as a kid I can't stand average grocery store stuff. It tastes totally different to me. It's so funny to me that now most of the people that eat really good quality fruits/veggies/meat where I live are upper middle class whereas I grew up poor. Imo my childhood was magical, outside with animals and plants and the sea. Sadly I'm disabled and I miss it terribly.
@vilteb4701
@vilteb4701 2 жыл бұрын
as another vegetarian, this seems weird to me as well, but then I remember my mom's stories of petting and playing with bunnies and then a few days after having them for dinner, granted this was the USSR and, you know, food was scarcer than it is now, but still probably a normal thing on farms and a weird one to people removed from it
@phoebejones9261
@phoebejones9261 2 жыл бұрын
I've commented this on another video about this, but for some vegans him having a meat company on the side will absolutely be a big deal and rule out his makeup company, even if it is vegan. Personally I don't care, but when I'm looking for vegan specific makeup that kind of this is make or break. Also either he was lying when he got the trademark, because thats when he would need to be getting yaks for pets and yaks for food and seperating them, or hes lying now about the ones that were slaughtered for meat were his pet and he only just realized how healthy it is, because it takes a while for them to be healthy enough to be slaughtered. I think either way isn't good at all. I'm pescatarian for health reasons but I think if he wants to do that kind of thing fine, but at least be honest with your audience, especially with a vegan and creulty free makeup company because at least if you're honest about it people may still buy your makeup.
@bethjono
@bethjono 2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow vegetarian this video was very funny to watch because I absolutely relate to the way you kept reminding people you don't judge them for eating meat but also it's not for you and what Jeffree did it gross. Big mood lol
@AngelikaOles
@AngelikaOles 2 жыл бұрын
i always feel like i have to overclarify 😭
@Amandamml1
@Amandamml1 2 жыл бұрын
He could’ve just said he changed his mind. We know he’s a lair, but he has to be so defensive and start with the “there are more important things in the world” that’s what makes it icky to me. I’m vegetarian but I also hate pushing my believes on other people. To each their own.
@AuthetnicEpicBoom
@AuthetnicEpicBoom 2 жыл бұрын
The truth is not in him! He loves to keep it messy!
@mfm8780
@mfm8780 2 жыл бұрын
I hate to admit that I see a fundamental flaw here: He can have 5 pet yaks and still butcher other yaks. Having a pet dog doesn’t mean every dog is your pet.
@Freccjjbb
@Freccjjbb 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff always does this. He HAS to comment about how important something else is and not to focus on his mess. It's giving me "How dare you talk about me using my yaks to rebrand myself but then just prove I haven't changed because I lied again, especially because people in the world are STRAVING. I'm just feeding them uwu"
@speai2215
@speai2215 2 жыл бұрын
I’m late to this video but I like how Angelica shares about her diet and how she doesn’t shame people who are just living their life for their diet if it’s different. It’s good to educate and not shame
@gin2943
@gin2943 2 жыл бұрын
i've been vegetarian/on-and-off vegan for ten years and the day i have my own chickens and know where my eggs come from is the day I'll stop feeling bad about eating them
@Fireprincess161
@Fireprincess161 2 жыл бұрын
I moved to a farming town when I became an adult, then moved away again. I regret leaving. The food was so good, and so fresh. They had literal farmers markets outside woolies and coles. Only reason I stepped foot into the bigger stores was to get boxed essentials.
@olivialorber3381
@olivialorber3381 2 жыл бұрын
this video was so entertaining 😂 phoebe is actually a yak angelika is just hiding it
@leahc5333
@leahc5333 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you respect the small farm “hustle” , personally we don’t sell what we harvest , we cut down majorly on our consumption of poorly sourced meet. It’s still hard but at least you know they live fantastic lives especially in comparison.
@sacha3296
@sacha3296 2 жыл бұрын
i’m not vegan but two family members are, so i eat a lot of vegan food. but i never really liked animal products all that much, except for tuna, salmon, chicken and eggs, but i can easily do without them. i don’t get why he lied, bc he is jefree star. he thinks things through ahead of time. also he claims the ones that are being brushed and stuff are not for consumption, which is either false or he has had a separate group of yaks since the beginning waiting to be butchered
@elizabethheyn5365
@elizabethheyn5365 2 жыл бұрын
My grandparents are farmers, so naming your animals, loving on them, and then butchering them is pretty normal. Naming makes sense, because pig 1, pig 2 etc is confusing and when you treat your animals well, it produces better products. I think chickens and fowl is a little harder to name, but I don’t farm.
@kingzlyAA
@kingzlyAA 2 жыл бұрын
He did go in to say that the ones he names and posts are his personal pet yaks while the ones off screen are the butchered ones.
@caitlinriley6563
@caitlinriley6563 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not vegetarian, but we don’t like processed meat. I found a local farmer and buying a butchered cow for the year has been a game changer!! My family feels better, healthier, and like we actually made a change in our community rather than buying mass produced meat. I always recommend finding a farmer and having all your food go straight from pasture to plate.
@paigemiller-landwehr2118
@paigemiller-landwehr2118 2 жыл бұрын
As a farmer in the midwest us. The trademarks make sense you don't want someone else taking the name and possibly passing themselves off as you or people doing bad things and slandering your name
@sophie265
@sophie265 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who eats meet and has volunteered on a farm I think it's nice to see that animals are loved and cared for whilst alive, but I think it's very disgusting of JS to lie about not using the yaks for meat. When you work with animals that are going to be food you have a tad bit different mindset than when you work with animals that aren't going to be food. You still love them (perhaps name them) and cuddle them, but you're mentally prepared that it's not going to live very long and it's going to taste good one day.
@Xraysinghell
@Xraysinghell 2 жыл бұрын
Normal for farmers is not normal for other people. They’re fine with dissociating with the living creatures and treating them like objects born to serve them. I’m from a farm area. Vegan. It always seemed so messed up to me how people treated animals and then just felt like it was normal and they had to kill them. Like no one’s forcing you. And I agree with you how it’s messed up.
@Xraysinghell
@Xraysinghell 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s hard to articulate my thoughts but what it comes down to is their ethical standards are different than us who feel scummy about animal slaughter and eating flesh.
@MrVlogerGuy
@MrVlogerGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Hun, this is what you do on a farm lol I don't know why this is a difficult concept for people to understand. This is not taking up for him, but as someone with friends who were farm kids, this is not out of the norm.
@jrdnbly93
@jrdnbly93 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you were under a rock when he told his fanbase that he wasn't killing the yaks and that he only had the trademark so nobody else could use it. Guess you also missed the part where he called people crazy and liars for claiming he was gonna kill them. Don't be stupid, everyone know what happens on farms. But for some odd reason, Jeffree went out of his way to lie about what he was doing on his
@CM38110
@CM38110 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the country growing our own vegetables and we have family that actively grows and sells cows and pigs. Side note on that, they are not named and to me that would be weird to name an animal just to butcher it. We do, however if we can, buy a cow and have it processed at a meat locker or processing facility (usually locally owned and small) so we have one on one conversations about the process and are involved in it. My mom also has chickens that we get eggs from. And the difference between those vegetables, meats, and eggs is night and day from buying it at a store as far as quality and taste. But I do realize that people in cities don't have access to that and i think it should be implemented to be more readily available such as having small farms in cities similar to community gardens where people can actively learn where their food comes from. Now, coming from an agricultural background, I can say a lot of smaller farms that focus primarily on raising animals for butcher or milk treat their animals very well due to the fact that if they aren't treated and raised well, they'd be throwing away a profit because investing in livestock and the equipment is biggggg bucks. And many, if not all of those farmers and livestock producers highly protest and stand against large corporate farms due to the fact that 1. It takes money away from smaller farmers 2. It gives the industry a bad reputation and all farmers and livestock producers get lumped into that and 3. They detest the mistreatment of animals in general.
@unamcmanamon9551
@unamcmanamon9551 2 жыл бұрын
My bf works on a dairy farm and the milk they produce is so good, no nasty stuff is added it’s just pure cows milk. Makes me wonder what else is added to the stuff we buy in the shops.
@Ughitswera
@Ughitswera 2 жыл бұрын
14:48 nah cuz this hits home this honestly makes my blood boil. Like ok Stephanie i get there's global warming but also the skin on my finger that got ripped off is annoying me and it hurts so allow me to deal with this
@katsumainu
@katsumainu 2 жыл бұрын
Angelika with the jumpscares at the start of the video 😫
@racheldoxey8728
@racheldoxey8728 2 жыл бұрын
So I was not raised on a farm but my mum in law was and then my boyfriend was.I have been there a few times.It's absolutely amazing .They now rescue chickens from factory farms .They eat the eggs which are laid completely naturally.They don't eat the chickens .They had cows growing up but now the don't .They had sheep that had lambs they had to bottle feed one They only ever shaved them which is good for there health .They have sadly passed away .They also have horses ,researchers used for anything other than riding .I have helped on the farm,feeding horses and putting the chickens away in there coops . It’s not a working farm anymore . They have now transformed there field into a camping field . The own a tent business called rent a tent south west. I really want to bring my kids up around the countryside . We hope to one day live there and raise more animals
@Lola-yq4kw
@Lola-yq4kw 2 жыл бұрын
So where I lived when I was young, we had a landlord who grew a bunch of things in the backyard. Peaches, pears, cherries, etc. And I will say, I have never had a peach as good as those homegrown peaches. That being said, I bought organic strawberries by mistake the other day and found a whole caterpillar IN my strawberry.
@caseyslezak6144
@caseyslezak6144 2 жыл бұрын
I mean OBVIOUSLY it’s not inherently wrong to eat meat - I’m a vegetarian, but I also understand that it is a privilege to be picky about what I eat. Eating meat to sustain your own body is the circle of life. HOWEVERRRR the issue here is the shady business practices and total dishonesty. Any business caught straight up lying to its clientele is subsequently looked down upon, and JS should be no exception. If anything he should be more accountable when he has promoted the opposite in the recent past (vegan cruelty free make up business, saying they’re only getting love no butchering etc) and continues to act innocent in his hypocrisy. While this is not a humanitarian crisis or world altering event, people with extreme wealth and influence should still be held accountable for their interactions with the general public. If you’re gonna pursue fame in our society, you gotta play nice with our society too.
@AlexBbyCakes
@AlexBbyCakes 2 жыл бұрын
Lol at calling the forceful breeding and slaughtering animals the “circle of life” 😂 If someone wants to eat meat, fine, but that’s far removed from the “circle of life”
@caseyslezak6144
@caseyslezak6144 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexBbyCakes did you miss the “to sustain your own body” part? that’s not factory farming - I’m talking about less developed countries where raising animals for food is the only reliable means of feeding yourself and your family, or ancient humans that hunted to survive. Again, t’s a privilege to be picky about what food you eat.
@AlexBbyCakes
@AlexBbyCakes 2 жыл бұрын
@@caseyslezak6144 No, I did not. It is not the “circle of life.” To “sustain your own body” is not indicative of any way of eating, be it hunting, farming, etc. Every single person eats to sustain their own body. What you said was not being specific to hunting and certainly not about “ancient humans.” Being vegan or vegetarian for ethical reasons is not being “picky” either 😂😂😂
@nathanscore
@nathanscore 2 жыл бұрын
raised in a family of farmers, grew my own vegetables growing up and all of that, but i don't buy jeffree learning "ethical farming" and having this sudden realization. my family members have a deep respect for the animals in their farms (mostly cows), but when buying the cows they knew exactly what they would make with them (some milk, some meat, and some raised for beauty contests). you don't buy a ranch innocently, say that these animals you bought are your pets, and all of a sudden 6 months later decide that you can make meat out of them. imo he wanted to do that from the start, another stream of income for him.
@Miss_korneliaaa
@Miss_korneliaaa 2 жыл бұрын
Why couldn’t he just use the yaks for other things and not killed them or at least don’t build a connection with them ?!
@patch3sth3cat4
@patch3sth3cat4 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not even kidding my boyfriend and I audibly gasped at that first photo of JS. I’m dead 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣
@lemonnickel
@lemonnickel 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair though, it says online that the farm has about 200 yaks. He could still be truthful about not butchering the ones he named. I'm sure he didn't name 200 yaks.
@stevie111ify
@stevie111ify 2 жыл бұрын
That photo of JS at the start of the video made me jump! Jeez 😂
@HaidebugCreates
@HaidebugCreates 2 жыл бұрын
As a person that does eat meat this also makes me upset not only because he lied, but because he also pretended to have them as pets then he just kills them? Whether he had some as pets and some as food, it’s still pretty soulless to do that.
@funkystab3706
@funkystab3706 2 жыл бұрын
tbh i have more of an issue with how he reacts and handles things. I don't know if he lied or changed his mind, and I don't particularly care? They're his animals, on his land, and he has every right to farm them and produce whatever animal products he wants, and he seems to be treating them well. In my country the standards for animal products/welfare are quite high, so I've never had the issue that Americans seem to have. I may be biased as someone studying agriculture/animal science as part of their degree, and someone who eats meat, I don't think he's doing anything wrong or whatever. He's done plenty of shitty things, this isn't really one of them
@ladythorofmuffins
@ladythorofmuffins 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t grow up on a farm but I have family in the cow business and you want to give them a good life when they are here. Naming them helps with making sure they are treated well so you have a good product. If you know the end purpose is them being killed, it is hard at first but you get use to/ desensitized by it.
@ohtam5598
@ohtam5598 2 жыл бұрын
Oles yak farm when!!! 😂
@Dvnie
@Dvnie 2 жыл бұрын
As someone raised near farming areas and had family who worked on farms, I think it’s very legitimate to change your mind on selling meat after education on the farming industry.
@Dvnie
@Dvnie 2 жыл бұрын
Like it’s very common for 4H clubs to have children raise animals as their pets and show them in competitions then sell them for butchering, etc.
@taralgasarah
@taralgasarah 2 жыл бұрын
I was actually raised on a farm and was vegetarian for the longest time because i had such a hard time separating the little lambs we raised and then eating other lambs
@odear6087
@odear6087 2 жыл бұрын
I posted this in a thread of comments, and I will post it separately here too as it might be a controversial opinion on the topic. I kind of disagree about the vegan & cruelty-free makeup being a contradiction to selling yak meat (or any meat in general) *IF THE MEAT IS ETHICALLY SOURCED*. Ethical sourcing is necessary of course. Let's consider: why is vegan & cruelty-free makeup a necessity for many in the beauty community? It's due to some makeup being tested unethically on animals; the make-up isn't meant to be vegan in the sense that "no animals or animal byproducts are used" usually. I understand that does include it being vegan in general, but the heart of this issue is to protect unjust testing on animals (hence "cruelty-free"). It's literally a marketing point. And again, if the makeup issue was SOLELY about it being vegan in the sense that "no animals or animal byproducts are used," how can you justify ANY make-up influencer, brand person, etc NOT being vegan but selling vegan makeup? Almost everyone in this community be eating non-vegan food and fast food on the regular. And no judgement, I'm not vegan myself. I think eating meat (personally) is okay. But that's my point: most people think so as well; yet we support and call for vegan and cruelty-free makeup to not support brands that test on and otherwise harm animals. So if we're okay to eat animals or animal byproducts, and if we care about that makeup issue to just protect animals, then animals raised well &ethically used for meat should pose no real issue or hypocrisy. Now, if it turns out he's mistreating the animals, or if he turns any of his actual pets into food, that is wrong. It is also wrong that he lied for really no reason other than to seem noble. Like I said, what he is claiming to do now is not really morally wrong necessarily, so why did he lie? Maybe to cover up a darker truth; I wouldn't put it past him with his track record. But as the information we have stands, I don't think anything here but the lying was bad.
@LAutobusbus
@LAutobusbus 2 жыл бұрын
i have to comment to expose myself there... i grew up in a farm... and i didn't know (and found out at my middle school cafeteria) that you could buy eggs in supermarket... i just... never thought of people who dont have chicken and just go outside to find an egg TT-TT also i cant describe the absolute joy on my baby niece's face when shes walking around the garden surrounded by cats, dogs, chicken a random pidgeon... its like in snow white ahahah
@Charmynox
@Charmynox 2 жыл бұрын
I was raised on a farm. We had beefalo. I would go out into the pasture, climb into their hay container, and give all the cows (beefalo) kisses and snuggles and stuff when they surrounded their hay container to eat. I once tried the meat that came from them but hated it because at that point, I was so used to the beef from grocery stores that had all that added stuff in it so I never ate the animals we raised. I did name some though. I got to name two calves, Tobi and Arabella. As for my diet... Meat tends to make me feel icky. Especially red meats. Like sometimes I'll eat it and just get sick after. But unfortunately, I am borderline anemic so I was told by a doctor that at least like twice a week I have to have a meal that involves red meat because of the iron in it. But on top of that I do have two conflicting EDs as well as depression so trying to make an actual meal with meat, or just a meal in general, is a struggle for me. Then to add to all that I'm diabetic. So basically, food/meat and I have a horrible relationship, thanks to my adoptive mom putting me on weight watcher's as well as diet pills at 14 years old. :D
@anikasmucker3208
@anikasmucker3208 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has grown up on a farm I agree that it's cruel to befriend the animals then butcher them. We have beef cows and I know if I ever befriend them I would want to keep the cows so I don't try to tame them. Also yes, living on a farm is amazing. During a meal my mom will often say ”everything on this table is grown from our garden”. Just walking out and picking fresh fruits and veggies for lunch is the best thing ever, and you will never properly understand what carrots, peas, or corn actually taste like unless you try it fresh. It will change your life.
@ariahanna9775
@ariahanna9775 2 жыл бұрын
My friend sheep farms on a small farm in NI and she names all her lambs ect but she also sells them for meat. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I couldn't do that personally but its very common for farmers to do. I don't know why he lied about it though he should have just been up front about it
@MikeilaMadden
@MikeilaMadden 2 жыл бұрын
I swear every time he gets called out for shady shit he deflects and invalidates people’s opinions by saying “something really big is going on right now how are you focused on me”. Like he doesn’t care about these issues he’s just using them to deflect and guilt trip
@jinnyweaver
@jinnyweaver 2 жыл бұрын
I was raised on a farm and during the summer we grew every vegetable we could, and traded with other farmers in the area for veggies they grew that we didn't. Now that I live in the city, I still have a small garden but my parents are my main supply for veggies hahah. Of course we still have to buy from stores a lot of the time because we can only freeze so much produce. As for meat, we never owned cattle but would buy chickens from our neighbours who raised and butchered them. Our chickens were only laying hens, we didn't kill them. I don't have it in my heart to butcher animals and my parents were the same way. They both grew up farmers and will die farmers but they HATE killing animals. Its very typical for farmers to hunt for deer and moose but my dad didn't have it in his heart to do so. Still bought meat from the stores but I wouldn't have him any other way!
@rachellaity4276
@rachellaity4276 2 жыл бұрын
I love your take on meat and veganism/vegetarianism! You're not pushing anything, I totally hear what you're saying!
@katsumainu
@katsumainu 2 жыл бұрын
He could've just sold yarn but ig that's not profitable enough 🙄
@MadHatta555
@MadHatta555 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard simplynailogical talk about copyrights and thought it was a bit fishy to get copyrights for an entire catagory. That's a lot of money just to protect a name and honestly Jeffree has enough money behind him to block a copyright that would be in the same catagory.
@Soozelove
@Soozelove 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about this! I knew he was lying when he posted that he was trademarking it to protect his brand....pft
@nataliepavlova14bg14
@nataliepavlova14bg14 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest - I'm not surprised at all. Great video btw 😊 Lots of love from your fans from Bulgaria
@aliceolivia2419
@aliceolivia2419 2 жыл бұрын
I’m vegetarian and tbh this has made me really angry. I rather someone was honest (even if I don’t agree with their believes) rather than pretend to be “all for the animals” then kill them. We need people who are animal activists not trying to support the meat industry. I’ve still been supporting jeffree throughout all of the past things but this has really done it for me. The whole “evolving and changing” is never going to happen if high profile people like him publicly LIE about the way he treats his animals which will only result in people replicating him. I don’t believe he “changed his mind”. If you think of anything you consider your pet then someone comes up to you and tells you why they think you should give them up to die and be turned into food, how would you react? Now, compare your answer to what jeffree said. Welcome to my brain😌
@jahnig5327
@jahnig5327 2 жыл бұрын
Star: yaks are friends not food Also stat: jk
@LifeOfTheAngels
@LifeOfTheAngels 2 жыл бұрын
Also, I’m not vegan, but I’ve made the conscious to not consume as much meat as I used too, it wasn’t doing me any favors, I mostly eat chicken and seafood, there was actually point in time where I didn’t eat meat for a whole month and it was pretty refreshing, I wanna try doing that again
@CWazBroadwayBandGeek
@CWazBroadwayBandGeek 2 жыл бұрын
First and foremost I DO NOT support Jeffree Star. However…I see no problem with him selling meat. As soon as he bought the ranch. I had a feeling his business was going in that direction. That is the purpose of most live stock farms and people need to stop over reacting about that because that’s what most farms do in the west and Mid-West. And frankly he never claimed to be vegan, so the uproar is unwarned. And to add on, to give benefit of the doubt, I HIGHLY doubt he would ever kill the Yaks he named. He treats them as well as he treats his dogs. He has some Yaks that were specifically for meat, like he said in his story. As long as he’s doing it humanly, I see no qualms. Good for him if he wants to source healthy products and live healthier.
@b.oconnor3745
@b.oconnor3745 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a vegetarian for over 12 years and would personally never eat meat, but, if you are going to eat meat i think eating meat from animals that were given a comparably good life if the way to go. But that’s not the issue. The issue isn’t that Jeffree is raising meat. Who cares. It’s just that he lied about it and is trying to cover his ass. That’s what’s gross here. If he, from when the butchering trade mark stuff came out, was like “yeah I’m working on creating a holistic farm that produces meat in an ethical way” it’d been fine w me 🤷‍♀️
@thalinamarie2377
@thalinamarie2377 2 жыл бұрын
He specifically said in a video that he wasn’t butchering any of his animals that have been shown online. He has a place in the very back fields for them, as far as I know they’re cared for but aren’t loved on the same. He said that himself.
@thalinamarie2377
@thalinamarie2377 2 жыл бұрын
This video is wrong. He loves on his yaks that are his animals yes. They get brushed, layed on etc. not the ones he’s selling for meat 🙄
@bantumangcu6770
@bantumangcu6770 2 жыл бұрын
the energy of this video, i LOVE IT 😭❤️
@mafthew1813
@mafthew1813 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think there is anything wrong with the butchering but I only care that he lied because that just doesn’t make him look good
@Demmyj
@Demmyj 2 жыл бұрын
the few times I got shit for being vegetarian my instant reply was "that means more meat for you!" and got some surprised looks but once they realized I wasn't going to try and convert them we just ate our food. I'm the friend that will get a traditional breakfast plate, and give you my bacon peices
@BowTiesareCool12
@BowTiesareCool12 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t grow up on a farm, but my dad did for a while. I know it’s not uncommon to name the animals and then slaughter them when it’s time to. My mom still talks about a time when she and my dad were dating and there was one of their cows named Stanley that she really liked, she was invited over for a cookout and my dad’s family was like “haha these are Stanley burgers”. You just kinda accept that the animals have their purpose to the “ecosystem” of the farm and that they aren’t the same as having pets. They did definitely get attached to certain animals though (my grandma still has Stanley’s hide as a rug lmao). But it’s a lot more ethical to raise animals “farm to table” vs them going to the slaughterhouse. I’m not necessarily a fan of JS, but I do think he’s allowed to change his mind. I don’t see it as lying, so much as he had his opinions changed, doesn’t help him though to have so strongly made a point of saying they were all strictly pets. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@amy_dsc
@amy_dsc 2 жыл бұрын
But his free to do watever he wants with his things, he can do bussiness with everything as long as its legal.. I get his a complicated person but doesnt mean everything he does is bad..
@linecrochets
@linecrochets 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who eats meat, I think personally it is disgusting that he names his animals and then uses them to sell or eat the meat after... I've always find that weird. And also that he said he wasn't gonna do it and trying to shame people into thinking he was (since he trademarked it) but then 1 year later does it and again shames people for pointing it out.. He definitely can't take any criticism or own up to his mistakes..
@alexandraburley15
@alexandraburley15 2 жыл бұрын
My grandparents had a hobby farm, where they raised 5-10 cows at a time. All of my cousins got to name one and got to interact with them regularly. My grandparents never told us we were raising beef cattle, but at a certain age we understood that these animals were to become food, and that we were raising them for that purpose. We gave our cows lots of love and affection. Their lives were better because we cared for them, and they provided food for our community. Jeffrey Star sucks, but this is just bougie farming
@renee5930
@renee5930 2 жыл бұрын
idk it’s kinda weird, like lots of people keep chickens for eggs and love them like pets, but also buy chicken at the grocery store to eat so, yknow
@lengyelgabriella6125
@lengyelgabriella6125 2 жыл бұрын
I hated the takes: IF you are non-vegan you shouldn't have a problem with this. Like no, ppl can be bothered by lies, and hypocrisy. Tbf it's also crossed my mind that how long can you keep meat in those packages, since his meat line is coming out this month, next month, meat goes bad really fast, if he is adding something to them, than what is the point... I hope it's going to be tested, so noone get's sick and stuff.
@TheMunchkinita2509
@TheMunchkinita2509 2 жыл бұрын
Meh, as much as I hate the guy, he's said that the ones he's killing aren't the ones he's named. As long as that's true this is really a non issue. It's his shit, he can do whatever he wants to with it. Better he be upfront about changing his mind than to try and hide it.. which is what I feel like he would've done before. For the record, I don't think he's "changed" per se, I just think he's better at playing the game after everything that's happened.
@ElleEasternSuburbsMum
@ElleEasternSuburbsMum 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it’s not remotely factory farming and I’d rather the yaks live a good life and get loved on and roam around freely before being ☠️
@ericaca88
@ericaca88 2 жыл бұрын
I literally heard him say he was gonna sell meat before this though.... And also with vegan makeup he probably wanted to give everyone the option because that's whats most wanted..idc about him & he does lie, but because people hate him, they make things put out nothing sometimes
@crescentartdesigns
@crescentartdesigns 2 жыл бұрын
I'm vegan too cause eating meat hurts my body so bad I ended up hospitalized and I was revealed to be irritation of leaking.
@beckylemm3smash44
@beckylemm3smash44 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up on a farm and you tend not to name the animals however not everyone is the same and also you sometimes have a few seperate eg milk cows etc
@xfreyawatson
@xfreyawatson 2 жыл бұрын
I’m vegan and tbh I don’t think that there is an ethical way to mass produce meat or even dairy and eggs- even free range can be not much better
@karlajackson4232
@karlajackson4232 2 жыл бұрын
not me binging the last ten videos cuz i havent had time to sit down and watch these
@lifewithava9958
@lifewithava9958 2 жыл бұрын
I’m an ag kid who raised pigs that ultimately became meet. We raise those pigs with love and respect but at the end of the day their lives are meant to become food. That being said, lying about it is what’s wrong. We go into showing season knowing that the pigs will ultimately be sold, don’t lie abt it to fans and followers
@Lando.alyssa
@Lando.alyssa 2 жыл бұрын
He literally has a small flock for butchering that are separated but are still kept very well and another much larger flock of yaks that he keeps as pets and will not be butchered I have no idea why people act like meat doesn’t come from animals on farms.
@absolutely_catastrophic_
@absolutely_catastrophic_ 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not vegan or vegetarian cause it's just not something my family can afford, but I still think what he did is super weird and messed up- like i have a feeling selling meat was always in his plan and he was just blatantly lying to everyone's faces so there wouldn't be as much drama drummed up before it launched. Grosses me out man. And keeping some as pets but not the others?? Weird. Ik that some farmers do similar, like have a few cow's that they keep as pets and not the others, but at least they don't lie about it😭
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