Candace's TRAUMATIC Childhood (Phineas and Ferb Theory)

[@chai8274]

Additonally, Candace completely accepts Lawrence as her dad. Its particularly clear in the father/daughter race they compete in and when he helps her with driving in its a mud mud mud mud world. There is no "you replaced my 'real' dad" Lawrence IS her dad in her eyes. And its pretty sweet that she has him now.

[@ucproductions5810]

That's definitely true, and Phineas seems to feel the same way about Lawrence.

[@somebodykares1]

We have to consider that its been a few years since Lawrence came into her life and when those episodes happen so it might have been different then than now but never know.

[@darkdragon7210]

@@ucproductions5810 Wasn't Phineas a Baby when Lawrence came into the picture?

[@funwithdollsandmore2426]

@@darkdragon7210 yah I think or he was a younger toddler

[@KatilynEButt]

Phineas and Ferb are twins so Ferb would notice stuff too about their dad

[@icycoolstudios]

In the episode where Candace dreams she busted them, she dreams that Phineas and Ferb get sent to a camp to remove their creativity. In a way this could have been her subconscious interpretation of how her father punished her for her creativity, and that ultimately despite how she wants to bust them, her true self doesn't want that for them.

[@redacted831]

Oh gods, this makes so much sense, i love this theory!

[@owlo_oowl]

@@redacted831 Same

[@wesleyhunt7599]

Except that was Perry's dream.

[@Neku628]

Her and Phineas' dad probably spanked Candace because she was "always up to something" and her ideas might have backfired. Her dad would just be Candace and just come out screeching and pulling at his hair like a madman because he knows he's going to have to pay for Candace's "screw-ups". Phineas and Ferb's plans usually work out while Candace's likely didn't. Her dad was an infinity times worst than Candace and he would always force Linda to see how Candace "screwed up" this time and how he's going to work extra hours just to pay for the damages of Candace's misadventures. I can see myself giving up on being creative with a dad like that, always threatening you with some unfounded punishment, always trying to drag his wife and whoever is near by just ridicule his daughter and rather than Candace being confronted. Candace would be told, "Candace, STOP WITH THE CROCODILE TEARS!" "YOU WON'T BE WATCHING TV FOR A MONTH BECAUSE I HAVE TO PAY FOR YOU DESTROYING OUR NEIGHBOR'S YARD WITH YOUR F$CKING ROCKET! wHAT THE Dickens were you thinking?! Oh, don't tell me! How we're going to embarrass dad once more and have me and your mom pay for your LITTLE..." *facepalms* "I can't even look at you right now!" "Linda, control your daughter! I'm off to work!" Candace's dad could be both creative and abusive, heck he might even mix the two in regards to whatever discipline he dishes out on Candace. For example, he could have invented a machine that spanks Candace by having a merry-go-round of boxer's gloves that would just rotate and spank Candace's behind.

[@ThatGuyCalledMyth9001]

yeah candace never dreamed that

[@Röllinburger]

Theory about Candace (and by extension Phineas) having an abusive biological father would further prove the fact that Dr. Doof really isn't that biological father (source: one of PaF's creators), because Dr. Doof would actually go miles to ensure his children's childhood won't be traumatic because he himself had so much traumatic experiences while being child himself.

[@dreamimgflowerd976]

Doofensmirtz is one of my fav characters. He is such a chad of a father to his daughter. He spent years looking for a rare doll his daughter wanted when she was like a kid and he didn't give up even when she had become a teenager he still wanted to fulfill that request of hers.

[@StillMemes]

Thank you for the statement Heinz,

[@jjnix9517]

Honestly I don't think anyone really thought he was.

[@Wailerman]

and that's not even a theory (Doof doing all he can for his kid/s), just look at how he treats Vanessa

[@DigiPen92]

I don’t think Dr. Doff is really the biological father of Phineas and Candace since he did mention that he hadn’t seen Phineas’s mother after the movie theater accident and the concert debut. I do think Vanessa is the only child of Dr. Doff.

[@rafaelaveralugo7626]

I think it's safe to say their biological father doesn't live in Danville anymore. Phineas and the rest of the gang know everybody in Danville personally, and considering how they never ran into their father...

[@gg_Talon]

I find it interesting that while Candace never mentions or seems to actively think about her dad and early childhood, Doof always talks about his. Comedic anecdotes aside, they were both traumatized in similar ways at a similar age, but what probably makes the difference for Candace is her new loving family, and the support she receives from both her parents and her brothers (despite being obsessed with busting them). It makes me think that though she definitely has unresolved issues from her childhood, Candace can definitely heal and have a much better experience in her adulthood :)

[@Jegcopo]

Love this thought so much!

[@NicklasZandeVGCP2001]

I can also see why Candace and Vanessa became friends. Because Vanessa actually understood what it was like to be in an abusive household, as she heard her father talk about how her grandparents were horrible people who skipped out on his birth and forced him to be a lawn gnome and losing the one thing that made him happy, and it's possible she met them and saw first hand how bad they were as human beings, seeing that Candace isn't too different from her father. Both people who want to be loved by the world and demand justice for how they were treated, but letting the abuse from their fathers getting to them.

[@ArtisticHH57]

So many people make dark theories about cartoons because they don’t understand the magic of creativity, but this one actually legit fits into the storyline. Good job with this one, dude!

[@ChrissaTodd]

well alex bale also says people make dark theories cause it's an interesting way to talk about that content

[@ArtisticHH57]

That makes a lot of sense actually

[@Jegcopo]

Glad to oblige and thanks :D

[@AromonChannel]

​@@Jegcopo yeah but there is one theory that maybe confirm that he is phineas dad. In the book of bills from gravitu falls, there is a question that ask to bill, the question is "are you phineas father?' And which bill refuse to give comment about it, So i guess bill cipher is phineas dad confirm?

[@santosic]

What convinced me that it fits really snugly with what we've seen is the bit about Ducky Momo. Like, yeah, that is an odd little detail about her character, a strange quirk; it really is like her obsession with it is because, in the middle of a hard childhood/upbringing because of her dad, she found the one thing that brought her joy: Ducky Momo, and latched on to it heavily. It fits with established lore, so it's definitely one of those theories that is highly plausible unlike most other ones of this nature I've seen!

[@somebodykares1]

Maybe Linda's husband had issues with Linda because Linda was once a popstar known as Lindana. Linda did say she gave up being a popstar because of family but she also did say she still did tours so she was not fully out of being a popstar yet and maybe her husband was tired of her constantly accepting tours that took Linda away from home when they promised to start a family together. Plus when we see the flashback of her with Lawrence on their date Linda still kinda dresses like Lindana.

[@Neku628]

It could be that as well as Linda just being fed up with him always trying to get their daughter into trouble and dishing out some creative, but really, really unsettling punishments. Then, once Phineas came along and started inventing, he threw up his arms and settled on a divorce because "he couldn't do this anymore and that they're Linda's problem now. He's out!"

[@pixywings]

Huh... I was actually thinking she might have hooked up with her manager. Then he was super abusive rushing her all over the place for shows just trying to make money with no regard for her or the kid's welfare.

[@redherringoffshoot2341]

I’m gonna make an educated guess and say that her dad was an Elon Musk type, for sure

[@somebodykares1]

@@pixywings If it was her manager then they would not have been living together in a suburban house though would they? Unless it was Linda's parent's house prior. We do know that Linda seemed to have just gotten out of the Lindana phase by the time she remarried but she still kinda dressed a bit like her Lindana self as seen in a flashback with Lawrence. It's also possible that Linda was never actually married to Candace and Phineas's dad, they could have just been common-law which would be why Linda kept her surname for you technically not required to change the surname in common-law relations.

[@MarrvelFan123]

I kept misreading pop star as… something else

[@Jonathanest90s]

Based on Alex Hirsch’s Instagram Story a while back, it seems like Phineas and Candace’s father might be voiced by him and appearing in season 5 (revival). So we’ll see what happens next.

[@baguettegott3409]

What? Is this true? What did the Instagram Story say?

[@P.G.A._Official]

"Is it true you're the biological father of Phineas from Phineas and Ferb?" This interview is *OVER* ! -The Book of Bill.

[@SunnylandProds]

Of course they’ve said time and time again that they’ll never explore who Phineas and Candace’s bio dad or Ferb’s bio mom were because the whole point was to show a happy blended family, so any speculation on the subject is just that.

[@Helehache]

That's awful potential waste but eh

[@noorbohamad5796]

@@Helehache pretty much always sounded to me like total nonsense

[@ArtisticHH57]

@@SunnylandProds I’m with @SunnylandProds on this one. I don’t think it’s wasted potential. I actually really like the way it was done, and it kinda keeps the show’s worldbuilding more grounded, which works when so many episodes the of the show has so much of that glorious lighthearted sci-fi energy. Plus, it leaves the door open for so many potential creatively fun fanfics that if that question was answered, it would probably ruin some of our enjoyment of the show. Also, I have a hot take about how the new seasons should go about in the space below. The new seasons ABSOLUTELY do not need an overarching story. That’s why the show’s worldbuilding and continuity is so subtle. It’s also why they’re going to be focusing slightly more on characters that barely got the spotlight in the original show to keep things fresh. There can be interconnected/serialized elements, like Stacy knowing Perry’s secret and Monty and Vanessa’s romance, as well as dropping hints about potential future storylines, as well as the MEAP saga, but the whole point is that every day is a fresh start yet it’s a consistent timeline that keeps moving forward (pun intended), and not everything has to make perfect sense. That’s part of what makes it enjoyable for me. I love Gravity Falls, Amphibia, and The Owl House but I think we should keep an open mind to episodic shows like this one.

[@SunnylandProds]

@@Helehache what kind of show do you think this is?

[@Helehache]

@@SunnylandProds I'm not asking for seeing a deeply dramatic background, but that's a natural question

[@ieda18]

You gotta analyze Linda too. Haven't you noticed how "emotionless" she is? How she's always looking for new hobbies to fill her life? That's how a broken woman acts, know that well by looking at my own mother after my shit dad died. Also how she never believes Candace, since their "problem"(the father) is out of the picture and Candace does that due to trauma.

[@Jegcopo]

Hmmmm, a character analysis on her would be pretty darn cool, I'll surely keep that in mind!

[@matthewreynoso6904]

I never thought of how Phineas and Candace’s biological father left them, but him being abusive as heck makes total sense!

[@DoofenSpyroDragon16]

Pretty solid theory and a lot of it lines up. I also noticed that Doof and Candace both have unrealized focuses that they both get fixated on, and they both have had rough childhoods.

[@stardust948.]

Some more proof of this theory is the few times Phineas lost his cool and yelled angrily at Candance. She completely shut downed which was so unlike her.

[@Jegcopo]

Y E S, I like the way you think, she just goes completely silent when he yells at her, instead of talking back and arguing with him. It might be because he reminds her of their dad when he gets all angry

[@LaurenSherwood-n8i]

That also explains a lot about Phineas eases small moments of anger. Yes, everybody does get angry from time to time, especially when we get impatient of something, or someone, however, I do believe that Phineas himself has inherited some of his father’s anger the way that some people expressed their Feelings are a lot of the time passed down from one of their parents. Phineas gets angry one. Candace doesn’t want to do something like get on a bike, and he yells “get on the trike . “. Or the time when he instead of asking Candace politely to leave because Phineas and Ferb, and their friends got the superheroes he tears her picture up, and yells at her like she is doing something wrong. Luckily Phineas didn’t have to grow up in that kind of environment like Candace, unfortunately had to, but he’s definitely got his anger from his father. It’s a good thing that he is keeping it under control though.

[@yukishiro3287]

Wouldn't that technically trigger a trauma response from Candace? I haven't really exactly seen the show so idk how Candace reacts

[@xxcoffeemonsterxx1574]

@@yukishiro3287 I have seen it, and Candace actually gets scared. She got on the bike ratherly quickly like she was afraid to be yelled out or punished and when Candace seems really hurt during the marvel move.

[@yukishiro3287]

@@xxcoffeemonsterxx1574 I thought so. Due to childhood trauma, Candace would absolutely respond in the same way she'd felt when she was with her father out of instinct

[@mynameisreallycool1]

I've heard theories stating that Linda actually secretly knows about Phineas and Ferb's projects, and she pretends she has no idea about it, which I believe. But they also say that she does this to make Candace continue trying to bust her brothers, and then she writes about Candace being "crazy" in her blogs and gets money for it, or something like that, and which feels like a stretch. I agree that there's no way that Linda has no idea about it. She has to, because everyone else in the town knows about it, even her own current husband. I think, if Linda actually knows how her sons are doing, her reason for not stopping her kids is because she wants to give Phineas and Ferb the freedom of creativity that her first child never got the luxury of having. She doesn't want her son and step-son to suffer the way their older sister did. And maybe the reason she pretends to not know about it around Candace instead of just saying, "Oh, yeah, I know about that. It's fine." is because it would probably hurt Candace to see that while she wasn't allowed to do these things as a child, her mom willingly and knowingly allows her brothers to do so. Candace will think, "So I didn't get to do all of this, but they do? How's that fair?" So Linda tries to play the "oblivious parent" sort of role so she can let her kids do what they want while also not letting Candace feel like Linda is favoring the boys over her by giving them the freedom she never got (even though all of this was the father's fault, an argument could be made that Linda allowed it to happen).

[@CadenManley-w9u]

I can see that being true

[@aaronthomson3639]

New headcanon accepted!

[@Jegcopo]

Yeah, I guess I know the guy who made that video, he seems pretty awesome, not gonna lie

[@Witchmee]

I think she wants Phineas and Ferb to use the shenanigans they get up too to help Candace have fun and come out of her shell more. She knows it will probably take awhile but she thinks Candace will eventually give up and join her brothers adventures.

[@vivifoxysdaughterandchild544]

Let's be real, if Doofenshmirtz really was Candace and Phineas' biological father, he'd be involved in their lives the same way he's very involved with his actual bio kid, Vanessa. He is just canonically one of the best cartoon fathers and when you put into consideration his many over the top yet depressing backstories, he wouldn't want Candace and Phineas to feel abandoned the same way he did many times as a kid.

[@schris3]

That could explain why Phineas had a very well repressed anger, he might have been subjected to the abuse as a baby/toddler, and one of the coping mechanisms at a young age is to repress feelings. About Candace, the attention seeking, being egotistical are traits inherited from her mom, that's why Linda became a pop idol in the first place. But the abuse amplified Candace'a worst traits, and made her unstable that of course got worse in her teenage years. About supressing the creativity stuff, I believe as the dad got disenchanted on Linda's pop star lifestyle, he decided to suppress Candace's creativity as a way to avoid that she becomes like her mom, and the stuff she was doing to her brothers is a case of the abused perpetuating the abuse.

[@marikk00]

Also we can understand about Candace’s behavior for example she is too insecure, anxious and has an attitude that makes her get defensive for no reason. This can mean is that her biological dad had left her traumas

[@betsylightfoot971]

Candice has a panic room in Phinedroids and Ferbots.

[@doctorjay8673]

FUUUUC-

[@Mediaguy8000]

I think Phineas's real dad cheated on Linda with another woman and when she found out, it was so traumatic for her which made her divorce him and thus she refuses to have pictures and memory tapes of him existing (she burned them all), nor have his name mentioned again and more so, never to see him again.

[@milosstamenkovic5941]

Yeah in Star wars episode when Candace asks mom remaried what happen to dad and Phineas said oh yeah funny story he then the planet exploded after all they are all rescued that means there dad didnt die at all maybe he just leave there hot mom Linda for a hotter woman thats the reason Phineas laughs because he was too young too understand.

[@aynsleyyost5168]

Phineasus never met their father and Candace did so that explains why Phineas is happy most of the time and Candace is worried all the time

[@DeathWolf88888]

I do like how the recent movie gave Candace more screen time and showed more of her character. You see that she does want to have fun but tries to restrain herself

[@KeatonGraves]

I like to think that even if any of this didn’t happen(but all your points definitely make it VERY likely)that the reason Candace always tries to bust Phineas and Ferb is because she did something creative but it went wrong somehow and completely discouraged her. I really think this can explain why she is the way she is and maybe also explain what you said about her feeling like she needs to live up to peoples standards.

[@Jegcopo]

If all of this is true, then I bet that's the case!

[@eliheitland568]

I’ve always knew that Heinz couldn’t have been Phineas & Candace’s father. One major dealbreaker to this theory is: We know Heinz & Linda went only on 1 date. In order to have both Candace & Phineas, they’d need to have gone at least 2 dates. That alone kinda debunks that theory. Even if Povenmire hadn’t discredited that theory, I think we would’ve figured it out eventually.

[@somebodykares1]

The amount of dates is logical for standard relations, but some people do a different amount depending on how serious and dedicated they feel, though there is also the fact Heinz has a daughter thats older then Candance as well...

[@MerryGoldberry]

It really would have had to be second date, because Linda not only ended that date early (and Doofenshmirtz said he never saw her again after that), but she could not have had two kids of different ages from the one. Plus, there's also the fact that Phineas would at least have to have a little bit of a chin- Doof's head may be a triangle, but it is all chin!

[@byakuyatogami2905]

Candace and Vanessa are also around the same age so it would have implied he cheated on his wife (which isn't impossible but he just doesn't seem like that kind of guy/he got with Linda before she was Lindana, meaning odds are it was just before he met Charlene)

[@somebodykares1]

@@byakuyatogami2905 Heinz did say that she went onto become a popstar after the date, so Hienz was prior to Lindana. According to Linda she stopped being Lindana to have a family but being Lindana likely brought in allot of money... Common reasons for divorce other then abuse is finances or just lack of emotional communication. Maybe Linda's Husband was using the Lindana money for something and that bothered Linda, or maybe Linda's Popstar career bothered her Husband for it meant she was never really around to be a mother like she said she'd stop being a popstar for...

[@Dip-Star-1489]

Unless Candace and Phineas are half-siblings and Heinz is the father of only one of Linda’s biological children, though this overcomplicates things considering we would then be searching for Ferb’s biological mother and two separate fathers.

[@AmandasArtisticworld]

I've always wondered who was Phineas and Candace's dad and what happened to him. But I've never thought of him being an abusive father. I've actually done some theories, myself. The dad was never married to Linda, and she was dating him. But things started to fall apart when Linda started getting pregnant. After a few months after Phineas' birth, they had a huge fight, and they even still had arguments before Phineas. So he left, and he never came back. There might be thoughts that after he left, He probably left Danville, The Tri-state Area, maybe even fled the country. Neither he was ashamed of how he ditched his family or he just didn't care. But in this video, you're right. The guy left Before Phineas made his first memories. That's why he doesn't ask about him. But Linda and Candace However, there was some trauma Candace went through her early years and still goes through it to the current time of the show. And Linda probably vowed to never talk about it again. But There's a little more to it then that. Something I found on Google, and this is where his name gets involved. I was looking at "Ph" Names when I found "Phineas" and clicked on it. There was other information about the name, but the first thing I saw was The Character's Information box, and I was shocked. At the beginning of it, There was a full name that said "Phineas Gerald Flynn" and it was actually talking about Phineas! It might be a possibility but I actually saw it! So I looked up on my Computer "Phineas Flynn's middle name" and it said Phineas doesn't have one. Which didn't make any sense (considering I looked up the names on my phone) but nothing. Just nothing. This guy might be named "Gerald," But I guess we'll never know. The creators are just making this "Child Friendly" and I respect that.

[@AmandasArtisticworld]

Sorry for the long comment 😭

[@eeveefennecfox]

@AmandasArtisticworld you shouldn't have to say sorry for long comments,I loved your theories on this

[@ljubicavidanovic2702]

I read now that he died in car crash On some site and it was interesting

[@Neku628]

Can anyone see Linda always getting into an argument because she was just horrified by the punishments Candace gets thrown into by her dad, not to mention how he would try to drag Linda into seeing what their daughter did this time. Can you imagine a man like that? Wouldn't you get sick of a spouse/partner always tattling on your kid while no proof of the wrong is present, he unlike Candace, goes onto punish his daughter anyways, only to be called crazy by an enraged Linda?

[@tmntgirl4life]

My theory was that he was a scientist that did crazy experiments and that it ended his life. Candace saw this and her mom never believed her. And that’s why she was constantly trying to bust her brothers out of fear they would die like their dad

[@eeveefennecfox]

never actually thought about the possibility he could've been an abuser,so I guess he's ethier an abuser,or he died from his own inventions,I really want them to answer this in the show

[@Jegcopo]

I fear they never will, and honestly the idea of him dying while building a contraption of his - and Candace perhaps knowing about it, hence why she wants to stop Phineas and Ferb from ending up the same way - is actually pretty awesome and of course more wholesome compared to this theory, but I just can't help but see him as an abusive parent because of how they've erased him from their lives

[@elisiasettles5021]

​@Jegcopo maybe both are true? Like he was a horrible person but ALSO an inventor and she associates the inventions with his character and actions

[@Jegcopo]

@@elisiasettles5021 I guess he could have been both, although the idea of him dying while building something and all seems almost too wholesome if he was a terrible person xD But sure, I like to think he was both

[@El_gato-interestelar123]

Rick Astley. Linda was a singer around the time that Rick Astley was a star. Phineas say it was a funny story, this is because in his most recognized song, Rick says that he never gonna say goodbye, never gonna run around and desert you, never gonna make you cry, and never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.

[@eucalyptus_ribose]

i like your theory

[@MrPillowStudios]

NO way. Did you just rickroll me in the comments section?

[@evangeloevoxi]

Normally I LOVE being Rick rolled, it always makes my day. But not this time, not after you slandered Rick Astley!

[@endertyme207]

April 1st is in 3 and a half months

[@Nick041584]

If this theory is correct then we can assume that Ferb barely talks because of a lack of courage to speak up after a hard time with his biological mother.

[@SupremeBobb]

Y'all in too deep now

[@matineeman3038]

That is a giant leap we dont know that at all

[@mynameisreallycool1]

It's possible. We need more info about Ferb's childhood prior to Lawrence meeting Linda, I think, to confirm.

[@ethans9379]

For as little as we know about Candace and Phineas's biological father, we know even less about Ferb's biological mother

[@Jegcopo]

@ethans9379 Exactly it would be much trickier to do a theory on Ferb's mom, not impossible tho, I suppose x)

[@jaredslootweg6777]

Seriously, I've met many real life families like the ones that are described in Phineas and Ferb, and they often had a younger sibling that got away with everything, and if the older sibling did the same thing, they would get punished for other peoples' faults!

[@jaredslootweg6777]

Honestly... I think Dan and Swampy need to address the more serious issues. I mean, if Cartoon Network can get away with a kids' show like Regular Show or Steven Universe diving into a world full of serious topics, then I think this show can address some of the more abusive home lives of Phineas and Candace. Of course, with Dan and Jeff announcing that Candace was going back to her original busting ways and being even worse than ever this time, I was extremely pissed off about that. I actually really liked Candace Against The Universe, and thought that it was a great way to dive into more emotional pain and why Candace believed she was better off without Phineas and Ferb. That is still the saddest moment in the entire discography, and the fact that Dan's going to retcon that isn't really that smart of a move. Writers need to take more risks, and develop and flesh their characters out more, and as a big Candace fan, seeing her go through the amount of emotional agony and manipulation she did as a child probably proves her unhappiness to the rest of the world. We all need to focus more on our mental well-being, and the fact that Candace in the end made the right choice to not tattle on her mother to Phineas and Ferb proves she's grown as a character. The difference between Doof and Candace is a pretty subtle one, yet it still makes sense. Doof, despite having a pretty rough childhood, still turned to a life of villiany and still treated the danger and excitement like it was a game. Canadce, meanwhile, was so traumatized by her experience of her dad that she chose not to trust him in the first place, proving that Candace's dad was even worse than Doof's parents combined! She sees her stepdad, Lawerence Fletcher, as her real dad, and that makes the physical abuse all too clear and vivid. I think if the writers were willing to take more risks, this could be on par to some of the great Pixar or even Marvel villians out there!

[@frankielovejoy9928]

This doesn't seem like something Linda would do, but part of me wonders if, instead of having an abusive husband, Linda was very wild in her youth and got pregnant by two different guys, maybe as one-night stands. This would explain why Candace and Phineas have their mother's maiden name instead of her husband's name because she was never married to begin with. This would also explain that scene in the Little Brother's song when Candace flashbacks to when Phineas was first brought home. You'd think maybe a scene like that would have BOTH parents introducing her new little brother to her, or maybe even their father taking Candace to visit her mother while she was in the hospital after giving birth. But it's not. Linda being wild in her youth would also explain some of Candace's behavior outside of her just being a teenager (Because, let's be real, those years are not as fun as some people like to pretend they were). Linda might not have been providing Candance with a stable household with a responsible family. Maybe it wasn't until she had Phineas that Linda finally wised-up and went looking for a committed relationship that would benefit not just herself, but her kids as well. As this theory says, a lack of stability can mess with a kid's head, but that instability doesn't have to come from direct abuse, it can just come from a scatterbrained mother who got pregnant before she was ready to be a parent and took some time to work herself out.

[@AuroraPaintBrush4444]

It always bothered me that neither of the Bio Family, from Ferb's Mother/Phineas+Candace's Father's sides, ever got mentioned or showed up. 1) no Holiday cards/birthday cards. Multiple birthdays and Christmas specials 2) we see Phone calls/video calls with Ferbs cousins from his father's side. Heck the boys made Candace a cell phone that can teleport. And yet no communication? 3) "Parent holidays" We had a Father's Day episode, but no mention of Phineas+Candace bio dad? Sure, it could be depressing idea to bring up visiting a gravesite, but kids do sometimes visit grave sites of dead parents. Or get a call from Bio Grandfather? Maybe, for Ferb and his bio mom, it was a one night stand, and bio mom signed away parental rights to Lawrence, and thats why he could move on so fast. Ferb was probably 2-4 years old from my best guess from character designs.

[@saros_system]

This kind of adds up a bit too much. Great video, as always!

[@Jegcopo]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it :D

[@TheHuntMan121]

FINALLY THIS VIDEO IS OUT

[@Riditekh-Studios]

People speculate that his name is Thomas because of the unconfirmed "Thomas Flynn Arrives". Alternatively, this *could* be Phineas's son

[@blakdeth]

Since candace and Phineas both have their mom's last name it could be something as simple as linda went to a donor before meeting a man she actually wanted to be with.

[@jamesmunson385]

Well, who is Ferb's mom

[@Jegcopo]

I'll think about a theory for her too someday x)

[@PrincessaBea]

Some green haired chick. Maybe she was a British spy who abandoned the family.

[@Orange_Swirl]

Let's say she died in a car accident because I have a screwed-up sense of humor. (I don't actually have any evidence to prove it)

[@epicboyo4883]

My theory is that Ferb’s mom died somewhat traumatically, which is half the reason why Ferb rarely speaks

[@origo1165]

@@epicboyo4883 I think she might've had some sort of heart attack (or any other similar thing that could make you die on the spot if not cured on time) and maybe Ferb was the one to find her unconscious...That would surely have a traumatic effect on him :/

[@MrGabeanator]

Phineas&candices biological father sounds like he’s on the same level as Leland Hawkins in treasure planet make of that what you will but sending phineas&ferb to reform school sounds like something he do for reals

[@Neku628]

As well as coming up with some insane punishments and threats of punishments while also crytattling on his kids to whoever is close by. Candace might have gotten the tattling from him, but his was more extreme. Also, similar to Phineas and Ferb's plans, whatever misadventure Candace got up to would just disappear with no proof of any of his daughter's wrongdoings. I can see Candace and Ferb's dad being like Horrid Henry's parents. "Don't be crazy, Candace!"

[@MrGabeanator]

@@Neku628 wow

[@santosic]

Since we're on the subject, something I wish the show did more of was highlight the fact that Candace is just as creative as her brother, and has at least some of his intelligence too, which is a detail you noticed too :) The Best Lazy Day Ever hints at this since she DOES build the dinosaur water slide thing perfectly all on her own, meaning that if she actually did try, she *could* be just as much of a genius as her brothers. And perhaps the fact that she doesn't isn't just her losing her spark because she got older, but because her father stunted it with his horrible treatment of her, and probably punishing her for expressing that side of her as you said. Out of all the theories I've seen that are similar in type, (especially for this show alone), this is one that is the most plausible so far because it actually aligns very well with the establish lore and actually helps explain a lot of things!

[@Jegcopo]

Yes, exactly! And people don't talk about Candace's creatiive side enough, glad someone else cares about this side of her ahah So glad you enjoyed the theory, thanks! :D

[@jopera7798]

I hope there's more stuff related to this in season 5. Maybe we'll even get the answer to it.

[@Jegcopo]

I fear we won't the writers really want to send a message by not showing their bio dad, but it sure would be fascinating to know more about the guy- If they ever made an episode about him, it would EASILY become one of the show's most popular episodes, I'm sure

[@maria1460]

I always thought at least when I first started watching Phineas and Ferb, I thought Candace and Phineas birth father was a good guy but passed away due to a drunk driver colliding into his car, and his parents didn’t like Linda and wanted him to be with one of their friend’s daughters, but when he married Linda, he took her last name and had Candace and Phineas shortly after. After their father passed, his parents took his possessions including their photos which is why there’s no photos in their house. This doesn’t explain Candace’s behavior but I think it’s something to do with her paternal grandparents. Great video like always.

[@gabbymedrano5256]

4:26 , Mr.krabs : Here lies Squidward hopes and dreams what a baby

[@Jegcopo]

Finally someone noticed ahaha

[@isaacengelking3259]

Idk why, but while watching this video I imagined a scenario where Candace and Phineas's dad got trapped outside of time, like they did in Last day of summer, and died there because he might have been the only thing that got sucked through the rift, leaving him to die of thirst and or starvation. It would fit, if only because Phineas and Ferb have meddled with time and space on multiple occasions. Even if this scenario did happen, it's still likely he was abusive. It would just give another explanation for why nobody talks about him; they can't remember that he ever existed. (In other words, what if he pulled a Gaster?)

[@Get_yotted]

I think this is a reach, it is more possible that he was an agent for OWCA, his cover got blown and he had to be erased from their lives but he arranged for Perry to become a part of their family. And for Candice's trauma it could be she still remembers the part of her father having gadgets and now she can't remember anything so she might be scared that Phineas and Ferbs creations would be what causes their disappearance.

[@royrampersaud]

i think candace is just over protective and dont want her brothers to be hurt

[@ozziefinale5184]

the dorito and candy cane line made me laugh so much it starts at 3:10 for context

[@libertybridger]

My theory: Doof Inator gone wrong.

[@josiahblair6413]

Phineas and Ferb tv show were amazing and great to watch when I was a kid. It is hard to believe that this show is only had 4 seasons.

[@bradythepokemaniac3675]

I just hope that in the revival series we finally get some explanation to what happened to Candace’s and Phineas’ biological father and Ferb’s biological mother.

[@Jonathanest90s]

It seems like we will.

[@SupportGamin2025]

Plot twist:Phineas and Candace father was an inventor(which explains where Phineas gets it from) and he left the family to persue his career

[@jaredslootweg6777]

10:39 I personally believe the former. He reminds me of Lotso from Toy Story 3. Someone who had a lot of sympathetic and tragic backstory, but decided to make the wrong choices at the end of the day!

[@redacted831]

Oh wow. Your videos are always so interesting! At this point you're genuinely in my top favorite channels ever, and definitely the top #1 in the PnF category! You bring so much new perspectives to this show. I love analyzing and searching for the details like these, and i truly adore the ways you do it, it's really awesome, your theories are always so thoughtful... I hope you never have to encounter that kind of people who disregard any dark analysis with "its a cartoon for kids, its not that deep!!", even i watch PnF just to chill most of the time, but i still really like thinking of something deeper in it that's hidden. You make me think of things i've never even considered, and that's amazing to me... I know you're a huge fan of Candace, and i think if she existed irl, she'd definitely be *your* huge fan!

[@Jegcopo]

Ahah thank you! Thank you for the support, it really means the world to me, I appreciate it :D Some of those people do comment under my videos at times, but I guess if they don't have a taste for drama and conspiracies then I guess it's a matter of personal taste. They have horrible taste, but I respect it nonetheless xD

[@MarrvelFan123]

Not to mention that creature that she sees. Clearly it’s her escaping from reality into imagination and she sees it even when she’s in the real workd

[@PURPLE_G0J0]

The reason Candice wants to bust her brothers is because Linda busted her ex-husband cheating

[@JamesJohnson-l5j]

I think that the dad was doing some really Sus stuff to Linda. In the episode where it shows a flashback of Linda dating Lawrence, she seemed really young. So either Linda was cheating on the dad, which would be very out of character, or it was one of those huge age gap things, where the dad was doing the Sus stuff to a teenage Linda. But, when phineas was born, Linda seemed like 30 something. So it’s all speculation.

[@zonelero420]

So basically what you’re saying is that Candace is in desperate need of a therapist

[@Jegcopo]

Yes, yes she is xD

[@Lunzatis_Palemoon]

It's possible that Phineas and Candace's father could have died from something like Cancer and told their Mom to find someone else to love her and take care of their children. My Uncle told my Aunt to find someone else to love and take care of her before he passed from Cancer. Also, a lot of these children's cartoon shows end up having major plotholes or things that aren't ever explained. This is probably one of them. The show's creators weren't even considering the possibility that anyone would ask about Phineas and Candace's father.

[@elimcdaniel44]

I just came up with a theory that would fit the show so well. The father was an evil scientist, but he wasn’t Doof. Instead of being a good guy trying to be bad (like Doof), he was a bad guy trying to be good. His creativity and inventions would get the attention of OWCA. He would try to be better for his family but revert back to his true evil state. The mom definitely knows what Phineas and Ferb are doing, but she is in denial and doesn’t want to entertain the idea that Phineas could be like his father. Maybe all Candace knows is that her dad’s creativity got him in trouble and caused danger to her family, so that’s why she try’s to bust Phineas and Ferb. It would be so cool if he was a partner to Doof but left because he knew Doof didn’t have what it takes to be a true villain. Also would explain why they don’t have pictures of him. Wouldn’t want to be associated with one of the most wanted villains ever.

[@NatalieHicks-Roark]

Well, at least that explains where Candace got her unique orange hair from and Phineas’s triangle head. Plus, maybe Candace really DID get her obsessive and slight antagonism from if her father really was abusive

[@theprecartoonworld]

7:20 Hmm, Now that you say that, this could be why Cadence is so focus on busting Phineas and Ferb all the time, because she didn’t get anything they had and got punished for no reason while Phineas and Ferb got to do everything when not getting punished. This makes a lot of sense!

[@Jegcopo]

Yes, yes it does

[@YLsanimations]

The trend of people making dark theories about cartoons will forever fascinate me

[@ChrissaTodd]

yeah but given dan povenmire said doof never saw linda again so he can't be phineas's dad so that theory is debunked especially cause it's implied phineas and candace have the same bio dad this theory fits a little more even if it's dark

[@YLsanimations]

@@ChrissaTodd Oh I know that one, I don’t agree with that theory either, frankly I’m just as fed up as Dan & Swampy

[@ernestorivas3764]

In the series there's no memorial of Phineas and Candace biological father left, as if Linda wanted to erase as much of his legacy as possible. This would heavily imply he's a bastard who should only be remembered by his name

[@matthewreynoso6904]

I’m with you there buddy!

[@rosegirl3220]

Candace's behavior could also be oldest daughter syndrome the take did a video about how they are often treated like another parent instead of a kid

[@NotMalachi]

I always had a mental thought that somehow Doof was Phineas’ uncle and Phineas’ dad is Doofs brother. 🧍🏾‍♂️ Similar child hood by the parents- Phineas, dad learned from their parents to be mean all the time, so growing up he treated Doof like dookie and that slowly caused him to become evil. Phineas’ dad still grew up to be a bad parent. Even Candice and Vanessa kinda look like they could be cousins. I only get this theory bc of the shows back then. ESPECIALLY KND When Numbah One found out Father was actually his uncle

[@chocolatesugar-lovage9678]

Is it just me or in one of the episodes when the family went to Linda's parents' place and they didn't say hi to Ferb or acknowledge him the whole episode even though Phineas and him were together as usual? Because I remember Lawrence's parents acknowledge Candace and Phineas in another episode. Someone please let me know if I'm wrong because I love the series and would hate to misremember something like this

[@Unicorngal-th1ks]

They say your brain is a sponge from born to age 12 and everything you endured or had to deal with back when you were just a child or a toddler I can understand why you would stick with her to teen or adulthood that is very sad if the theory is true. Not just dad issues but also abandonment issues if they did happen to there’s a lot of mental trauma.

[@TsukiKageTora]

It could be that they were more stressed with Candace as their first child and less so with Phineas and Ferb and she is resentful over that.

[@theresivy]

i would wanna say theres a chance they were also just from a sperm donor, but it doesnt make sense to me cus that would mean linda was fairly young, maybe late teens when she had candace cus her flashback where she first met lawrence seems to be in her early 20s

[@dylanhudec979]

I do hope this theory isn’t true not saying that it’s a bad theory I think you cooked with this one I just hope he doesn’t turn out to be abusive I just hope they’re biological dad turns out to be just a chill guy because there is a lot of good theories out there proving their father could have been a chill guy and that died due to one of his experiments gone wrong and Candace saw the whole thing and wants to bust her brothers as a fear of losing them by an experiment gone wrong just like her dad but this theory is too great and it sadly could be confirmed true but we should remember this is just a theory and we could be so wrong on this

[@CharmainDesrosiers-qf4mn]

candid is like meg griffin in the sense that she is unlucky. like Candice depends all day every day to bust here Brothers but yet she never does. idk why I mention it it's just a quincidence.

[@TheGreenJ50Teen58]

I’m generally surprised that nobody at comic con asked the creators about what happened to Phineas and Candace‘s biological dad nor Ferb’s biological mom

[@sussyfreddy]

I thought his dad was bill cipher

[@BubbleBassThyFishCorysClan]

Bag Of Doritos Is More Likely! Just Look At The Seasoning And The Kid's Hair

[@Kyranyoutubevids]

I thought his dad was Dick Dastardly from Wacky Races.

[@enderanniepost1132]

May you please do a video on Ferb? I'm only asking because Ferb doesn't speak much and I would love to know why that is.

[@eeveefennecfox]

maybe that ties with his own biological mother,maybe something happened and it made him talk less,some characters have a reason for not wanting to talk maybe due to past trauma,maybe his biological mother didn't like when he spoke his mind

[@MerryGoldberry]

I have always figured he just didn't prefer to talk and let his words stay in his mind unless they were important. There's an episode that implies this, I don't remember which it is but Isabella finishes earning her 24 hours of silence patch and tells Ferb she can see why he likes it, as she did a lot of really interesting thinking. Ferb then says, "Welcome to Ferb-land!" and we get a glimpse inside the world of Ferb's mind.

[@Jegcopo]

Noted x)

[@rolandswift4311]

Another possibility worth considering: are we sure it's Candace's AND Phineas's dad? Could many of these issues also not be explained by Linda's two biological children being from two different father's? It's not impossible that Linda was married twice before Lawrance, or married once with one child out of wedlock. This would explain her continuing to use her maiden name, as she didn't want to open a can of worms by choosing one of their dad's last names over the other. It could also be that neither of their dads were in their lives for long enough after they were born for her children to actually bond with the, and that she didn't keep memorabilia from either because she didn't want to accidentally foster a sense of disconnect between her children. It's also possible that at least one of the two died due to an accident that they caused themselves, which could've A) fostered a paranoid overprotectiveness in Candace towards her brothers due to her not wanting to loose them in the same way, B) triggered an "overprotective phase" in Linda at a pivotal point in Candace's life that could've instilled her views that she would've gotten in trouble for doing what they do, C) made talking about the dead father a taboo topic due how they handeled their own grief and/or trama and/or due to some combination of misguided senses of obligation to protect Phineas from sharing their trama and grief and/or prevent Phineas from following in his footsteps and getting himself hurt.

[@BenjaminGray-zz4py]

I've got a BANGER of a theory for you: "How did Isabella get her crush on Phineas and how did they met in the first place?"

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

Phineas & Candace’s biological father, could’ve had the worst traits of them. He could’ve loved busting people as Candace, while also being a genius inventor as Phineas.

[@richieosborn2639]

I did have a theory that Candace was only hallucinating her two brothers who died in a roller coaster accident, but this theory is so much more layered!

[@OnizukaAllMighty]

Head vise Phineas is definitely Doof's 😂

[@sheeniebeanie2597]

Phineas and Candace's last name is Flynn while Ferb's last name is Fletcher. Linda's last name is hyphenated as Flynn-Fletcher, and her grandparents are also called Betty Jo and Clyde Flynn so the most plausible theory is that this is her maiden name because she was never married to Phineas and Candace's dad before (or, less likely, Linda and her ex-husband had the same last name). That could explain a lot as to why they accepted Lawrence as their father.

[@rjshadow4321]

the fact no picture, bringing him up when talking about the past or even his name is ever done means either he's gone in a very bad way or their mom hates him so much she erased every trace of him.

[@Rabdom50]

When people talk about walking green flags, Lawrence is definitely one of the people, fictional or otherwise, that usually comes to my mind 😂

[@barneybrown2092]

This is a good theory because I've always felt as if I was missing something on the show. Like the show was hiding something or something was going over my head that I just wasn't getting.

[@ghostthelizard]

At first i didnt think this theory would work but tbh the more i listen and the more i think about it, maybe its true. In Ferb's case its very possible his mom died, possibly before Ferb was even old enough to remember, and thus his dad chooses not to bring her up, plus i think it might be weird to have pictures of you and your ex hanging in a house when youre married to somebody else. There could be a similar thing with Linda's ex, but also while phineas might not remember him, Candace would remember her dad

[@PelafinaLievre]

Maybe he got Goodbye Earl’d, if you know what I mean. I mean, that throwaway Star Wars line could imply death.

[@lerneanlion]

I do not know why and how the notification did not alert me of your video until a day later. But I have this to say: What you said made a lot of sense. But there is one thing that is on my mind. If Linda did not get marry to the biological father of Candace and Phineas, does this make them illegitimate children? If that is the case, do they have rights for the inheritances from both sides of their families? Sure, their maternal grandparents recognized them, so it will be relatively easy. But when it comes to the one from the father's side, I have no idea for real.

[@WilliamX5000]

Honestly, I would've loved to see the birth father of Candace and Phineas so fans that hate the bastard could berate his ass to next week, month or year, maybe even out of existence.

[@80swhattheheck82]

Phineas father look like postal dude give a black sunglass and lether coat you got youreself THE POSTAL DUDE

[@j0beldude216]

yeah, he almost look like postal dude tho

[@Jegcopo]

I had no idea who that guy was, I just checked and - you're right damn it ahahahah

[@80swhattheheck82]

@@Jegcopo pls make a funny theory about is phineas father a postal dude ?

[@Andrew-dc1wt]

If he really was that bad and Phineas got his engineering skills from him, could he have been a major player for the Villain Society or whatever they're called? The guy might have been an asshole to them because he was living a double life as an Evil Engineer or Contractor.?

[@Caistrophytum8048]

Linda protecting Candace from their father makes a lot of sense of how Candace never manages to bust them - their mom is simply letting them be creative!

[@youdontknowsponge6218]

I like the theory they are just playing with toys and it being real is in Candace's head. They just simply put the toys away at the end of the episode. Candace created her own fantasy world. Most of these inventions would take a long time to build.

[@SupremeBobb]

Oh look, it's the umpteenth video on Phineas and Ferb's biological parents. Jokes aside and even though I find it difficult to take this seriously at times, you did a great job, infinitely better than most videos on this topic. And of course, I like the fact that you mentioned Nerds of a Feather and the Star Wars special and that you didn't entertain the Doof "theory" for too long. Alsoooo, you are very close to 50k, whoo!

[@Jegcopo]

I love how supportive you are of me, hon 😍 For real tho ahah 🫶 I knew you would have appreciated the mention to Nerds of a Feather, I can assure you, when I was writing the Ducky Momo I was thinking about you 😌 Yaaay thanks :D Would you look at that, after 10 years and 2 months of doing KZbin I might just have reached a significant amount of subs ahaha

[@SirCipher45]

I Believe Bill Cipher is Phineas real dad if you read the Book of Bill from Gravity Falls XD

[@dukeslytalker1192]

The mean camp guy is her father!

[@Brony459]

Before I I clicked on this video I thought “that might explain Ducky MoMo quite a bit if this is true”. Glad I wasn’t the only one that thought of that.

[@carterblake-x3b]

i hope the revival well show something about phineas and candace's bio father and i do think their father is creatve like phineas

[@ethbeatthem4836]

So when it comes to the missing pass partners I see this as the most likely, Ferb birth mother likely died at child birth, sad thing that does happen but explain why Lawrence moved to America to get away from the town he lost someone dear in. Well Linda ex/late husband is a more mysterious but do to Candace not getting a supportive family until her mom got remarried it’s clear there was something wrong with the relationship. You made the idea that Linda blamed Candace for her Career never going off but that doesn’t seem true, her ex/late husband might of been the real reason, hitting her up after her one hit single causing Linda to choose family or a career, and likely forced a marriage with Linda so he could have Candace but maybe not for the right reasons. Maybe Linda hate the few things that Candace do that her first husband did and want her to grow past them. Just ideas and thinking.

[@Ravongesreal]

This makes sense. But could it be thought, Candace is envious and seeks attention because her mom prioritized Phineas, and the dad simply left, leading to Candace and Lynda hating him for leaving them.

[@elimcdaniel44]

I just came up with a theory that would fit the show so well. The father was an evil scientist, but he wasn’t Doof. Instead of being a good guy trying to be bad (like Doof), he was a bad guy trying to be good. His creativity and inventions would get the attention of OWCA. He would try to be better for his family but revert back to his true evil state. The mom definitely knows what Phineas and Ferb are doing, but she is in denial and doesn’t want to entertain the idea that Phineas could be like his father. Maybe all Candace knows is that her dad’s creativity got him in trouble and caused danger to her family, so that’s why she try’s to bust Phineas and Ferb. It would be so cool if he was a partner to Doof but left because he knew Doof didn’t have what it takes to be a true villain.

[@hyenafur]

I would like to propose an alternate theory which is based on real life examples; Linda was never married and was a single mom.

[@ashhikari626]

Honestly way I see it is that doctor d and Lawrence is that both will be winning father of the year awards because of how amazing fathers they both are since Doc D made sure his daughter didn’t grow up in a similar situation like he did and Lawrence was there when Candice and phineas needed him and I can see that before Linda and Lawrence got married Lawrence spent a kraanging good amount of time bonding with Candice and phineas and became the stepfather who stepped up and honestly not only did Candice and Lawrence enter that parent/child day event but whenever Candice gets married Lawrence would be the best choice to walk her down the aisle every day of the week and twice on Sunday (and that’s regardless of what happened to Candice’s blood father because Lawrence is her bonded father)