Jehovah's Witnesses and Sex

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stoptheshunning

stoptheshunning

Күн бұрын

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@whbowen
@whbowen 7 ай бұрын
Many years ago in a small congregation in Georgia a contrite young engaged couple confessed to the elders they were having "oral sex". The elders thought oral sex meant they were discussing sex before marriage. So they said there is nothing wrong with oral sex. You should have a l0t of oral sex before marriage so as to understand the wedding night. The young couple was thrilled to not have committed a sin before Jehovah. They went on with a lot of oral sex and had a huge wedding in the Kingdom Hall. So you see it is all in how men define matters in the organization.
@BunnyWatson-k1w
@BunnyWatson-k1w Күн бұрын
That is funny.
@cherrymnm04
@cherrymnm04 8 ай бұрын
7:42 Thank you for this video! I'd like to add, at the 2023 convention, I overheard my parents streaming the convention and there was a comment about how you shouldn't just marry about fellow JW but you also need to marry someone that is devout enough. I'm 38, never baptised, never been married, never even been in a relationship, and my PIMI parents have been trying to get me to go back to meetings to meet someone...but even if I did that (which I won't), I'd still need to be baptised before I could even court someone. That's a LOT of work to not be lonely anymore.
@mr.atheist8848
@mr.atheist8848 8 ай бұрын
Try to go out of your comfort zone. Since you’re a POMO now, try to find single women and establish a relationship. Plus you’re in your 30s, you’re in control of your life at that age
@Daurio4747
@Daurio4747 8 ай бұрын
In one congregation I was in. I was the talk coordinator. We had a public talk, #15. 'Gods view of sex and marriage' was the title. I could never get anyone to give the talk, because 10 minutes was dedicated to the gb bedroom rules. I certainly was not going to give a talk on what two people could, or could not do in their own bedroom. Or why the watchtower corporation condemned masterbation. Anyway, before I found myself excommunicado in 2013. They modified the talk. They took out the bedroom rules. Like Jon said in one of the videos. Watchtower is becoming more liberal to stop the bleeding. Great job Beth. 🙋
@sarahthomas8670
@sarahthomas8670 8 ай бұрын
That’s disgusting
@EmilySolem-Davis
@EmilySolem-Davis 8 ай бұрын
Oh so gross. 🤮
@mamajan99
@mamajan99 7 ай бұрын
Our Bethelite cousins had some really gross stories about what was going on in Brooklyn, especially after the failure of 1975's "end of the world". Recently elders have been getting off with children in the back rooms, asking for graphic sexual details. Anyone who is still a JW is a sharer in their gross, deadly sins. "Get out of her my people."
@kingofthedots3835
@kingofthedots3835 7 ай бұрын
Hi Joe .....don't be a stranger .....and I don't mean sex 😂😂😂
@Daurio4747
@Daurio4747 7 ай бұрын
@@kingofthedots3835,🙋
@marwatson7408
@marwatson7408 8 ай бұрын
I never understood their bedroom “ RULES” quite frankly it’s really nobody’s business what two people do behind closed doors especially in the bedroom. This was just another reason why I left this organization and never went back. Was disfellowshipped because I got pregnant out of wedlock and the elders asked me the most embarrassing and intimate questions I was in complete shock . 😳 😮I walked out the door and never stepped foot in the congregation again.
@Cfalconeri
@Cfalconeri 8 ай бұрын
So Sorry! They infringe on privacy and intimate acts that is between you, your mate, and God. The fact they have lied and manipulated them to believe they have to report everything to the elders is disgusting. I have heard so many similar stories! I will never go back
@morningglory9288
@morningglory9288 8 ай бұрын
I'd have walked out on the judicial meeting if questions got too heavy.
@mr.atheist8848
@mr.atheist8848 8 ай бұрын
I hate this micromanaging cult!
@muma6559
@muma6559 7 ай бұрын
@@morningglory9288 normal people don't ask such questions, perverts do
@robertedwards909
@robertedwards909 7 ай бұрын
Why do people who extol the bedroom should be private are the very ones yelling from the roof tops what they are doing paraded down the street
@nowandafter3258
@nowandafter3258 8 ай бұрын
JW 💯CULT💰
@MargaretRobinson-fj2eg
@MargaretRobinson-fj2eg 7 ай бұрын
You are wrong
@Daurio4747
@Daurio4747 8 ай бұрын
I was going to mow my lawn. But wait, hold on. 'Stop the Shunning' is on. The lawn can wait. Beth is on, and I need to hear what she has to say. 👏👏👏👏
@theredvelvetwitch
@theredvelvetwitch 8 ай бұрын
“Cobwebs growing on their reproductive organs” fucking SAVAGE!! Beth is an icon, truely 😂
@EmilySolem-Davis
@EmilySolem-Davis 8 ай бұрын
So glad you are bringing this up. Nobody should ever feel ashamed about sex.
@Gerhard2770
@Gerhard2770 7 ай бұрын
Speedofiles and grapepists?
@centralscrutinizer7374
@centralscrutinizer7374 7 ай бұрын
@@Gerhard2770. Learn what crimes are. There is a difference.
@Estee.Ar.6869
@Estee.Ar.6869 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Beth. JW/WT are so inappropriate. At times their public talks would be about "bedroom laws."
@robertgrey6101
@robertgrey6101 8 ай бұрын
@Estee Bedroom is a very personal area. CONSENTING adults DONT NEED geriatrics in New York State of America, to invade this private area of home or their lives. If health topics were on the agenda as a warning of health, physical and psychological problems which may come one day, then maybe with quotes from medical, psychological trained consultants would give better credence to their, Jehovah's Witnesses, discussion. CONSENTING is the operative word !!
@franceshemery5095
@franceshemery5095 8 ай бұрын
Never mind the bedroom....the park,the beach etc erc as onlg as it yr betrothed(that is not tro be disputed
@tomnenos9461
@tomnenos9461 7 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed your video. I have never been a JW, I enjoy learning about all the strange rules of the organization. I have never heard about the bedroom rules before. Thanks for discussing this on your channel. If JW’s would listen to your KZbin videos they would leave in masses. Their minds, thought, actions, lifestyles are totally controlled by the organization. How sad is that? Thanks for the information on the blue envelopes and the secret database of the organization. I only hope that some law enforcement agency cracks into their files and uncovers the thousands of sex offenders within the organization. Keep posting your videos. They are truly inspiring.
@BramptonAnglican
@BramptonAnglican 8 ай бұрын
Yay I’m so glad you are making videos also. I’m excited and have notifications turned on.
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers 7 ай бұрын
If you're excited, and turned on, you are doing something right.
@ExJwMJ
@ExJwMJ 8 ай бұрын
One more thing to note. The very first person you date, you are encouraged to have plans marrying, if not forced to marry that person. And once your engaged you have to quickly marry them.
@alans.wendelschafer6588
@alans.wendelschafer6588 8 ай бұрын
You can't break an engagement either. I mean, you "can" but there is a stigma behind it.
@mamajan99
@mamajan99 7 ай бұрын
perverts giving lessons....
@knowthyself8233
@knowthyself8233 7 ай бұрын
Yes that part.
@jays7761
@jays7761 7 ай бұрын
The part about being "forced" is just plain lies. And of course when you date, the ultimate goal is to find someone you want to spend your life with. The isn't unique to Jehovah's Witnesses... that's dating in general. If you are just looking for sex or friendships, that's not dating.
@2PastNeptune
@2PastNeptune 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate your point of view.
@BramptonAnglican
@BramptonAnglican 8 ай бұрын
Same. I always learn something new also.
@AgeOfNefarious_Deception
@AgeOfNefarious_Deception 8 ай бұрын
@@BramptonAnglican Well, good for you. 7 "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." 2 TIMOTHY 3:7
@mike7197
@mike7197 7 ай бұрын
Back in the 70's there were a few WT articles that came out dealing with what was termed 'inappropriate behavior' between married couples in their own bedrooms, namely oral sex, which they called porneia which is considered a grave sin. Many ignored the articles and went about their business, but many more had their marriages rocked to the core when one or the other took it seriously and loaded themselves up with guilt, prompting them to go before the elders and confess all the juicy details, not wanting to leave anything out so as not to hide anything. Ask me how I know.. She thoroughly enjoyed oral sex but couldn't handle her guilt feelings. I begged her not to take it to the elders but she was determined and did so on her own. I was humiliated. It was my young and attractive 20 yr old wife totally alone late one evening with three old men, asking her all kinds of questions about our sex life and listening to her sharing all the details. How often, was it every time, was it you or him that initiated it, etc. etc. I could only imagine them lying in bed later that night just thinking about it all. Ironically a few years later, we left the religion and in a complete turn around, she totally let go of all her sexual repression and inhibitions in ways that that would make your head spin. I've learned they've since relaxed their bedroom rules. With all their changes it's not even the same religion. True story.
@Denariusjay
@Denariusjay 8 ай бұрын
"staring at Margot Robbie" 😂😂
@jasontorres7756
@jasontorres7756 7 ай бұрын
I grew up a JW, got married to a fellow JW when we were both 24, but we had no chaperones while dating thank God. She was overseas and you bet I wasn't going to hold back when I visited, granted we didn't go all the way before marriage but we touched and grinded on a couple of occasions. Our marriage lasted 5 years and I left the organization, came back for a few years then left again. I do try to follow Bible principles to the best of my ability though and recognize there a lot JW's that are good people but yes they blindly follow imperfect men whom they hero worship at times.
@ChanHDR-v4b
@ChanHDR-v4b Күн бұрын
Bro. Huh, 24
@jq9807
@jq9807 8 ай бұрын
Knew a couple that got married young, as they always do. Turns out she didn't like sex, and that was that. He's an elder and she's a pioneer now, going on 20 yrs. I can't imagine that life
@kylekataryn3454
@kylekataryn3454 7 ай бұрын
i wonder how many are gay but don't realize it, or have OCD, for example.
@hendrikeinde6856
@hendrikeinde6856 7 ай бұрын
Can happen in a rc marriage too. Fear for more stillborns and more pregnancies (contraception artificial prohibited). And only theory of natural family planning. And after the division of ❤❤ divorce. Than how further?
@petervallejo5603
@petervallejo5603 7 ай бұрын
Those two are probably cheating very quietly on each other ... who knows!
@dannygjk
@dannygjk 6 ай бұрын
doesn't like sex is sometimes code for something. 🤐
@hendrikeinde6856
@hendrikeinde6856 6 ай бұрын
Yep. But I see that organizations of JW and Ronan Cath Church work the same. It is their imago and not well-being members that count 😢
@nerliep1121
@nerliep1121 8 ай бұрын
Welcome back Beth. We missed you and your wisdom around here. Glad to know that you 2 are doing well.
@philipatkins405
@philipatkins405 8 ай бұрын
It made me go mad with frustration I had a sister girl friend in the congregation it was a secret friendship when the elders found out they said against me I was not spiritual strong enough to the sister to finish with me it broke my heart that was in 1987 after that I got out my life today a lot better I went to college I got a degree got a o k job I traveled a lot now at 64 years old I am happy but carry the scars of that regulious cult
@MoreWaveLessParticle
@MoreWaveLessParticle 8 ай бұрын
Ohh! That sounds terrible! Ugh. 😡
@jmark7390
@jmark7390 7 ай бұрын
I am a 72 year old lesbian sister. I went to med school without anyones knowledge. I have been a Doctor for nearly 40 years. I have been very private about my life.
@alona644
@alona644 8 ай бұрын
I FORGOT ABOUT THE CHAPERONE 😂😂
@moniqueperrin1459
@moniqueperrin1459 8 ай бұрын
I 'm so happy your back Beth, always loved your videos. I was a JW🤢🤢🤢 for more than 40 years , the number of really "happy" mariage I witness (no pun intended) could fit on one hand . I don't know if it's only me, loved to have your opinion on this, but could that be the perfect evil master plan of Watchtower to purposly sabotage there members mariage right from the start, so they will all be so miserable ,so unhappy, and STUCK ( and good luck with the " till death do us part " if they both survived The End thing 🤬) That they would have no other choice to just numb themself slaving for the Cult for EVEEEER ! Man can just give 110% of there time to the cong. and women either go out in service , bags pushing zombies, or have some kids and raised them all by themself to make sure they will all become some good Watch. little helpers...
@stephenspreckley8219
@stephenspreckley8219 7 ай бұрын
Yaaaaaargh!! Why does this institution even exist?? Thanks for your insight dear lady !
@Easydoesit101
@Easydoesit101 5 ай бұрын
Excellent, we are out 35 years now, not our religion but our mothers. In the Late 1970 into mid 1980’s I sold New Ford’s, all my customers wanted to test drive cars, I was alway exploring with a metal Detector, I dated several several girls and never a Chaperone…Get out of this Cult, we did and we are happy and Retied in our early 70’s…married now 50 years….
@nicholasmccarthy8771
@nicholasmccarthy8771 7 ай бұрын
You are special. Why? Because you say it like it is! Love your honesty - and your clarity.
@janespitfire9884
@janespitfire9884 7 ай бұрын
I was a virgin first time got married But read some books once got married. It helped a lot.
@TheGulfcaptain
@TheGulfcaptain 7 ай бұрын
Alcohol, minor children and a "two witness policy" make for a pedophile paradise. All is kept behind closed doors. Obey your elders, wait on Jehovah, be humble, be patient.... Jehovah will judge them at Armageddon. Meanwhile the victim has to see the perp in the Hall all smiles and in good standing perhaps giving a talk on cleanliness.
@Manto-t9d
@Manto-t9d 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Beth for the video very informative more people need to know about the CSA, keep it up!!!!
@theblacksworde
@theblacksworde 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video on a difficult subject, rarely talked about. I grew up a JW in the UK and Iam still coming to terms with the psychological damage this caused.
@jessicacaldwell6262
@jessicacaldwell6262 8 ай бұрын
As a born in JW from the get go you’re told when you start Dating you have to have Marriage in mind… looks like you’re stuck with the first person you date …WT GB’s insane rules !!! 🤨
@jerryjohanan1940
@jerryjohanan1940 8 ай бұрын
Yep
@lawrencethornbury8081
@lawrencethornbury8081 7 ай бұрын
As a born in, I'm sure you were glad to find the outside world is not as bad as the Watchtower says it is.
@jessicacaldwell6262
@jessicacaldwell6262 7 ай бұрын
@@lawrencethornbury8081 we’re lead to believe it was Evil Satans world and only living in WT organization Bubble was safe so much fear instilled into us as born in… I’m glad I’m not in it anymore 👍🏼😊👍🏼
@Jeron_Benton
@Jeron_Benton 8 ай бұрын
Great video ! When you said instead of watching this “ you could be doing laundry 🧺” I was literally throwing my washing into the dryers and started laughing historically lol but I love both you and your hubby content ! Keep it up
@ruthpocock7135
@ruthpocock7135 8 ай бұрын
So glad you're back, Beth. Missed your talented and insightful views. Will you and Jon be letting us know a little of what you’ve been up to and how you’ve grown while you were away? ❤
@stillnotathomeintheworld
@stillnotathomeintheworld 5 ай бұрын
Hi - in 80s / 90s Germany the rules were not that strict - never had to have a chaperone although wholesome group activities were encouraged to get to know other young people. In the big cities there were (and are) a lot of ‚cool‘ JWs, doing sports, attending gigs and clubbing occasionally. I suspect many found ways to bend the rules. Many however (such as I) would have been so deeply indoctrinated that they could not even contemplate accomodating the rules and ran straight into major problems that made their marriage awkward and stressful - vaginism, anyone? for at least one year after the wedding? Went to the doctor and remember how she looked at me trying to compute how someone at 26 who looked ok and was articulate could come to her with that problem for those reasons. Btw, very glad to have found your channel, your posts have the right lenghth and you speak concisely and without showing off in any way (obvs you don;t need to ..) Keep on doing the good work!
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 7 ай бұрын
I knew a sister, age over 60, who required a chaperone to date a brother who was older than her.
@Katiegirlluv
@Katiegirlluv 7 ай бұрын
😯
@BenjaminPadilla-d6q
@BenjaminPadilla-d6q 16 күн бұрын
That's a man made rule. I wouldn't abide by it if I were her or him. That's an insult and total B.S! What's the worse that can happen? They can't trust ppl to be adults?
@scottall71
@scottall71 8 ай бұрын
This is *THE* video that needed to be made! I had to leave the group [you probably can guess that means kicked out/DF] where the elders destroyed my family, but I walked out, disassociated, was repulsed by the hypocritical unscriptural activity. And it all stems from the long list of built-in problems you mentioned - a large piece of the problems are deeply rooted in sexual rules/confusion and absolute ignorance - that [I feel] is abusively imposed in the JW youth. Aside from not being taught a damn thing about sex itself, it's ingrained (aka brainwashed) that all matters of sex are DIRTY. Except missionary, 1ce per week. If using it for pro-creation (which most congregations FROWN upon having children ROFL - the layers just get better and better) Even though a woman must listen to her husband (that's a head trip all in itself, how sometimes it applies and sometimes not.) She [my ex] was born and raised. Which means she fully drank the kool aid. I joined the organization through the marriage. *And thank god for that because it would be impossible to navigate the 'dating' scene as a JW. I gave her all the things her dating pool could not. Gave her 3 kids. And - I'll cut the the end - after an 18yr marriage, the elders supported HER and her unscriptural activity in disloyalty - while working against me - and gave her explicit instructions [permission] to erode the marriage. The end of a marriage often takes years so yes I held on but those final years were a living hell. I hope I gave enough info here - the elders are not your friends. They (most of them) get off on meddling into sensitive sexual issues, interfering with marriages. The gastapo/nazis (what I liked to call them) use power, influence and many manipulation tactics to break up families. Great video - so many have difficulty discussing these subjects and identifying the MASSIVE problems, but you took out a huge chunk of it right here!!!
@brittany292
@brittany292 8 ай бұрын
I remember when i was dating before i married and i felt so bad for only letting him play with my boobs....and because we were not able to live together or have time alone i was not able to discern that he was abusive....
@mylife5237
@mylife5237 8 ай бұрын
Same goes to me. I didn't know wife would prefer to meet the requirements of the GB than meet my needs. Shocking to know after wedding day.
@Dealingwithidiotsonadailybasis
@Dealingwithidiotsonadailybasis 7 ай бұрын
Imagine buying a house or car and not seeing it or trying it before you buy? It is the stupidest dumbest idea ever and they wonder why marriages fail?
@Darth.Phaedrus
@Darth.Phaedrus 7 ай бұрын
People are animated by ideas.... it's entirely possible that he only became abusive becuase he was animated by abusive jw ideals... I know this is the case for many.
@petervallejo5603
@petervallejo5603 7 ай бұрын
I hope you exited the JW and got on to move forward with a real life and a real Christian Church.
@brittany292
@brittany292 7 ай бұрын
@@Darth.Phaedrus yes the religion is very narcissistic and draws that type of person to it....his mother used it to make her children feel like shit their whole lives and that transferred onto me....he always wanted to make me what he wanted me to be, and it would get abusive when I wouldn't live up to his ideal....he would punish me often by berating me and even went physical in my punishments sometimes
@michaeloshea5505
@michaeloshea5505 7 ай бұрын
I remember JWs coming around in the 70's saying the world was going to end soon "sometime in the 70s or 80s in fact". I don't think it happened!. Could you confirm we are still here! 🤔
@MichaelYoder1961
@MichaelYoder1961 8 ай бұрын
Love to see you online again, Beth! You are an articulate, thoughtful woman with a lot to say!
@TonyAlfaro2022
@TonyAlfaro2022 8 ай бұрын
great video, kudosd to you coming and talking about this
@lisaineurope
@lisaineurope 8 ай бұрын
Ah Beth great to see you back. I have missed you and your sense of humour. Best wishes from Lisa in the UK 🇬🇧
@DeadKoby
@DeadKoby 7 ай бұрын
I never was a JW.... and I never studied with them. It was always my Christian understanding that you saved sex for marriage... and that it was between the man and wife. Pornography was condemned because of what it can do to a mind... That's about it.
@BadViking1
@BadViking1 8 ай бұрын
I’m totally Asexual because of this cult I’ve lost all interest in sex and It’s causing me more loneliness The organisation has a way to mess with your sexuality I’m straight but I can’t find the urge to date But I want someone It’s confusing
@AndreiPopescu
@AndreiPopescu 7 ай бұрын
I think what you are is: heteroromantic asexual. It means you want to have someone of the opposite sex close to you, but you don't want to have sex together. If you manage to find another heteroromantic asexual you'll be better of than a lot of heterosexual couples because you won't have to worry about: no being sexually satisfied, not being able to sexually satisfy your partner, being tempted to cheat and your partner cheating on you.
@Christine-we8np
@Christine-we8np 8 ай бұрын
I just told my dad l wish that a guy who was a witness friend when l was younger was a cousin because l loved just spending time with him but l was always worried about "witness values" as soon as you start being good friends everyone has you getting married and l only wanted friendship with him. I feel l was deprived of that and actually we were both deprived of our friendship I catch up with him every few years and its just like talking to my brother
@Fishingfrancewitholiver
@Fishingfrancewitholiver 17 күн бұрын
Love your videos and how you make your point . ITS Rad 😂
@mommasuesue
@mommasuesue 8 ай бұрын
I completely agree 👍 ❤
@hanskneefel3767
@hanskneefel3767 8 ай бұрын
Sharp as ever, glad your back!
@AgeOfNefarious_Deception
@AgeOfNefarious_Deception 8 ай бұрын
Not as sharp as a two edged sword though.
@sarahthomas8670
@sarahthomas8670 8 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for you to make more vids !!
@kmm291
@kmm291 8 ай бұрын
There were WT questions from readers that said oral sex was wrong,then another saying it was up your conscience…..same ol changes from the org
@joez3706
@joez3706 7 ай бұрын
I thought it was a full no for oral..
@victorbenitez5685
@victorbenitez5685 7 ай бұрын
Very informative, so pleased this topic is being discussed candidly!
@robertbrunson6994
@robertbrunson6994 8 ай бұрын
I can not remember what book or verse says that when you marry, you may do as please with each other, and you sin not. Or something to that affect. Correct me if I'm wrong. 😊 🙏
@EXJWAnalyzer
@EXJWAnalyzer 8 ай бұрын
I can't remember what book or verse says that when you marry, you have to obey 9 old men in New York regarding what your sex life should be like. Care to point that out?
@crisscugnizzo
@crisscugnizzo 5 ай бұрын
Always love your contents , thanks.
@hotmail_2089
@hotmail_2089 8 ай бұрын
Hey, so many days! Glad to see you back.
@astralclub5964
@astralclub5964 8 ай бұрын
JW GB = Get hitched early and enjoy that vanilla forever!
@robertgrey6101
@robertgrey6101 8 ай бұрын
Cant "test drive" the csr before you buy it. I ❤ it.
@markochs2495
@markochs2495 5 ай бұрын
Who wants to buy a car that's been test ridden by anyone who walks through the parking lot?Id rather have a new one. Break it in. Then tune it correctly. So it screams and performs just the way I like it
@BoskiBear6969
@BoskiBear6969 7 ай бұрын
I'd rather stare at you. Forget Robbie. Glad your back!!
@nicosyiallouris1103
@nicosyiallouris1103 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Beth well come back!!
@timcue4958
@timcue4958 8 ай бұрын
As once being a part of that world, i can confirm all your all that you've stated is very true line of statements and they are very controlled oriented inregards what can and cannot be accepted as a Witness.
@ChanHDR-v4b
@ChanHDR-v4b Күн бұрын
Do you celebrate Halloween?
@andiepole2204
@andiepole2204 8 ай бұрын
That about sums it up! Great to see you again, Beth!
@GG-kv8vv
@GG-kv8vv 8 ай бұрын
LOL, this is an excellent video😂freaking loved it and hilarious, and serious.
@arkdark5554
@arkdark5554 7 ай бұрын
This superbly executed video got me subscribed in. Bravo!
@emilypetyt3948
@emilypetyt3948 7 ай бұрын
I am so happy to see you Beth. You are amazing, sending love
@stoptheshunning
@stoptheshunning 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kindness! xx
@typaul4859
@typaul4859 8 ай бұрын
Yay! You’re back!
@deeasztalos2520
@deeasztalos2520 7 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you're back! I love your videos.
@timistrue
@timistrue 8 ай бұрын
Facetious master you are! If it feels good, Do It! My bedroom, is my business. Appreciate you!
@josecalderon6516
@josecalderon6516 7 ай бұрын
In my opinion, I never seen more Sadie's people than JWS and NO, congregations are more divided than ever. The hypocrisy that exists is huge.
@Queenolgi1
@Queenolgi1 7 ай бұрын
I was so so lonely as a JW. All I wanted was a boyfriend. I never wanted a marriage! They forced me to believe I want a marriage, when I NEVER EVER wanted one! I was so active and interacted with everyone, but I was the loneliest person on earth.
@megagatvol
@megagatvol 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your insight into the JW Organisation. This situation almost tore our family apart. My youngest sister got involved with a very nice guy and coincidentally my late dad happened to know his mother and also knew that she was a JW.. When my dad asked him about his association with the JW’s he insisted that he wasn’t connected with the organisation at all. Within no time my sister go engaged to him and then suddenly they decided to marry and then the cat was out of the bag….they said that they were getting married under the auspices of the JW Organisation… next thing my dad accused him of being untruthful and a liar. My dad was hoping to walk his only daughter down the aisle. Eventually my dad kicked her out of the house and forbade her future husband to stay away from our house. My family are staunch Pentecostal… No one in our family knew much about the JW’s but knew enough that they denied the deity of Jesus. I could go on and on but finally my dad was diagnosed with terminal cancer and that’s when my brother-in-law came into play… He suddenly came over to the house and insisted he helped my dad with my dad’s various needs. This is when my dad apologised to him and finally told me that my brother in law was a good and decent person ( which he was )..I then reminded him that he was working on his own agenda for scoring points with God and this was his motive and not my dad’s welfare. Cheers Hendry ( following you from Britain)
@trilithon108
@trilithon108 7 ай бұрын
The suppression of sex and overly sexual-control leads to frustration, and porn is often an outlet. In other cases that frustration can become csa. 😢
@stoptheshunning
@stoptheshunning 7 ай бұрын
So true.
@josecalderon6516
@josecalderon6516 7 ай бұрын
I just love the way you describe sex according to JWS. Thank you
@fredo994
@fredo994 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. Keep up the good work!
@baggypipestv
@baggypipestv Күн бұрын
Read Raymond Franz’s book Crisis of Conscience. When he was on the governing body, he describes how JW’s would write in and tell them everything they’d been doing in bed to get clarity on whether or not it was acceptable in Jehovah’s eyes. The reality was that most of the time they didn’t know how to respond and just made it up as they went along. It’s absolutely disgusting that people would be expected to share those sorts of details with anybody else.
@Lukronius
@Lukronius 8 ай бұрын
Whoa, what an awesome thing to find at the top of my suggestions this morning!! Great to have you back!! 🎉❤
@Felicia-ch3hd
@Felicia-ch3hd 7 ай бұрын
Hi, Beth. I love your authenticity, and the way you break things down. But, the things that you mentioned about sex I absolutely agree with especially the chaperoning idea when you're dating in the organization. It's like something out of the 40s or 50s. The things that you mentioned about being The sovereign of your own body is something that's more applicable for those who are actually studying to become a JW. Because things like sex etcetera, or studied before you joined the organization. Climbing the right not to have sex out of marriage is something that a JW agrees to before baptism and they use the scriptures about not to commit fornication which they already know about before they joined and then agree. But if you're part of the organization already, you've essentially agreed not to commit any sexual encounter as a witness and I think it's the organization book that tells you all the things they practice before you join, or before they allow you to join. But after you become a part of this cult... Good luck and trying to have sex out of the marriage, or marrying a person who is not a JW. Because once you join and agree to these kinds of teachings in order to be baptized; you've already put yourself in their yolk of control and repression.. but, no one has the right to control you or your body but you.
@Felicia-ch3hd
@Felicia-ch3hd 7 ай бұрын
I apologize for the typos love your video!
@gregoryrapier3021
@gregoryrapier3021 7 ай бұрын
I use to have them come by. I was glad to talk to them about their cult. After they found that I know the Bible and the history of JW. Then they stop coming by. I have seen them visit homes near by and walk by my door.
@TonyAlfaro2022
@TonyAlfaro2022 8 ай бұрын
Friends all this is done with one thing on mind : Control, perpetual Trauma that creates fanaticism
@extraterrestrial4287
@extraterrestrial4287 7 ай бұрын
They need people to be in a constant state of guilt
@tomakerfeldt3782
@tomakerfeldt3782 7 ай бұрын
Hey from Sweden! I just wanted to tell you how well formulated you are, not to mention the sound of your voice. You should work in radio! I grow up in another cult, but found my way out by my 20’s. Lots of love
@BCDanno63
@BCDanno63 7 ай бұрын
The one thing you never mention is where you stand with the word of God!!! Faith in the bible isn’t a menu in a cafeteria… There ‘s tremendous freedom of choice granted … but there are admonitions of simple self control .. the Witnesses are a totally narcissistic collective mind set and they actually perverted the bible for their own purposes…… But your seeming swing into an anything goes mentality is concerning as to your motives and speaks volumes as to your anger about faith in general… Can you address that???
@carcarzela1
@carcarzela1 5 ай бұрын
This happened to me, married within the organization because that’s what I was doctrínate to only marry same faith. I meet a sister and sure we got intimate before marriage abut got married and after six months we were not compatible! It was difficult living with someone not sharing same goals and beliefs that was not spiritual goals. Only reason we both got married was because of Sex so we didn’t get DF but end up getting cheated since she no longer wanted to be stuck in a marriage. At that moment when I decided to leave the org, I dedicated all my life to this org and did my best to follow their rule on marriage but ended in a divorce, even after divorce no one single Witness call me or visit me! I knew this could not be Gods Organization.
@lawrencestoll6287
@lawrencestoll6287 8 ай бұрын
The governing body knows how to tame the beast 😂
@wilfredoortiz5284
@wilfredoortiz5284 8 ай бұрын
I've stopped going to the doom meeting a few years ago my wife still believe the lies of this organization and yes sex is very challenging, me as a man, it's very hard to be loving or romantic with 9 men in my bedroom, she will never cheat on me, but dose with her believe system that's goes before me.
@NANCYDOMSTAD
@NANCYDOMSTAD 10 күн бұрын
thank you greatly for the truth(the real truth, not the mantra lie of the witnesses. when i was a witness i was condemned of being a single mother after i left my babys father who was abusive and unknown to me in the beginning an addict. the elder females would come to my home, check my home to make sure it met their standard of cleanliness, that i had control of my child at home as well as at meetings, then came the next control from them, that as a single mother i was not abusing my child and was not masturbating as well. i was also being followed by they and their men to make sure i was not breaking the rules and control they had. when i made friends with an older woman who had been clinically depressed for her 40 years as a witness. i was soft shunned by other members. my abusive mother made friends with an elder witness her age and spread lies about me that went everywhere in the congregation and other congregations so that wherever i visited i was ignored. also my now 25 year old daughter is bi-racial. not only was my mother racist but the congregation members while each denying -actions speak loudly. there was child sex abuse being practiced for generations. as soon as i saw the bullying, sex abuse of women and children i never left her alone with any church members, especially men. i was constantly criticized for raising my precious daughter as the gift Jesus showed all who believed His words and actions. i asked too many questions and would not obey the control and brainwashing. i secretly planned the escape of my daughter and myself. i was very careful not to tell my mother or sister or anyone in the congregations anywhere because either of these would have ratted on me making an escape dangerous. i simply behaved as normally but was not believed, because nothing was obvious to them i was able to silently escape. my mother and sister continued to be watchful but could not believe i could escape because i had experienced the same abuse as was the norm in the witnesses. i am most grateful to Jesus for giving me the strength to leave and allow those He sent to free my daughter and myself from both. there were those sent in the congregation to befriend me so that they could continue their control. so dangerous was my so called mother who said i needed to get out of the organization and behind that was encouraging her friend to report me to the elders knowing full well what punishment i would face, making her happy. i no longer go to any religion as the word of God itself is clear that all religions are man made and not of God, are human traditions. i have also witnessed at some of the meetings 2 things--women being beaten by their witness husbands and non witness men, going to meetings, being surrounded by women who gleefully encouraged them to continue to take abuse because they were bringing glory to jehovah. i then witnessed the bullying and sexual abuse of girls who when reporting it to the elders, were subjected to extensive detailed interrogations that traumatized them even further. then they were told they had caused it all and now must be shunned for their sin while the abuser was never disciplined and always turned their own evil to the victim to discredit them. sound familiar, i am sure. please wake up out there, have courage i know you will have when you see the truth, lies and manipulations behind this cult. remember the words of Jesus himself--the truth shall set you free. i know that from personal life experience. please be careful while in it and if you decide to break free. with much love to you..
@Lyle_918
@Lyle_918 7 ай бұрын
Coworker from the 70's drank the JW Kool aide, for years he often suggested I go to their meetings, as soon they were of age his kids bailed, unmarried daughter got tattoos & got pregnant. He moved three states away then about seven years ago he stopped e-mailing, didn't reply to messages. Questioning if still alive I searched and found he had been arrested, seen his mugshot, from what I found he went across state lines to meet (what he thought) underage for sex. Oddly everything on the internet has been scrubbed not only the charges but it's as if he never existed.
@johnporopat6366
@johnporopat6366 7 ай бұрын
Much kindness to you.
@jorgemunoz19
@jorgemunoz19 8 ай бұрын
Do you still believe in God (the christian god or any other kind of god) after your experience with the JW's? 🤔
@nigelbews3335
@nigelbews3335 8 ай бұрын
Well done!you hit a lot of points that plague me right throughout my married life …yeah oral sex! is like a swear word to them!
@rhuxley5130
@rhuxley5130 7 ай бұрын
I haven't watched apostate stuff in a decade but this was an authentic and swell video 🧔🏻👍🏻
@rafikgl
@rafikgl 6 күн бұрын
You are free to have sex outside of marriage the same as you are free to lie, steal, or kill. But when you get punished, disrespected, divorced, or get an STD for doing any of this don't complain. p.s. I am not a JW
@linda9497
@linda9497 19 күн бұрын
I love it, love it, love it-you have sovereignty over your own body. Yes, it's true. We own our bodies, no one else does.
@KeithBryantOfficial
@KeithBryantOfficial 7 ай бұрын
7:54 As a pimo introvert, everytime they bring up this topic let alone "dating", I always thought whats the point of dating anyways (As a 22 year old) since two reasons: 1.) Never any people my age because there are so many old people in every corner when being told to "marry in the lord (Just Jws)" 2.)Makes me rather to more and more introverted and lonely ever to avoid "association" from them when they tell me to "make friends and marry a fellow believer"
@davidshatusky8755
@davidshatusky8755 7 ай бұрын
Becoming engaged is a serious matter, break it off and you will be looked down upon. Or try to divorce and you will be sitting in front of a committee. I am a baptized 54 yr old not currently active publisher.
@danieliglesias1669
@danieliglesias1669 8 ай бұрын
Hey I was JW many moons ago…….and of course I got married when I was 18 because it was the only way we could have sex……Howewer….. are you implying that JW couples can only have sex in the missionary position? I know that was severely implied back in the 80s (I think) and after a while they sort off stopped talking about the subject and also strongly then implied that it was a matter of “conscience “. Are you saying that Watchtower is again implying that only missionary sex is ok among married witnesses. Thanks for the work you do. 🤔🇨🇺🇺🇸
@youareherediversity7321
@youareherediversity7321 7 ай бұрын
How old were you when you were pushed through the embarrassment of ‘the youth book’ or ‘young people ask’. I was about 10. I was mortified and very confused.
@stoptheshunning
@stoptheshunning 7 ай бұрын
Geez. Around the same age.
@Eric_01
@Eric_01 7 ай бұрын
Probably the same age for me, around 10. That's also when I started hiding Playboy under my bed. My teen years were very anxious.
@SavageGTI
@SavageGTI 8 ай бұрын
Just about everything said in this video explains my path to insanity with no answers. Almost getting emotional because of how true this all is. It took me getting DF to finally wake up, get answers and build a healthy sex life. I'll always be upset for missing the girlfriends I could've had that could've been my perfect wife but had to give them up because some guys said so.
@jobaecker9752
@jobaecker9752 8 ай бұрын
Never religious person here. Help me understand, especially in a 'religion' where only a select few make it into the highest level of the afterlife (yay), why is there such a need for control? Why wouldn't the founders just say "Do these things and you're in...otherwise too bad for you!"?
@mr.atheist8848
@mr.atheist8848 8 ай бұрын
They became a micromanaging cult because during the 20th century, the Governing Body believed the religion as “The Truth” and they have the right to micromanage the members. Which led to Crisis of Conscience book by former GB, Raymond Franz
@MelinaBarriere
@MelinaBarriere 5 ай бұрын
I wish I had access to that kind of content back in the days, that is 20 ya. But there wasnt any testimony of any kind on the internet back then. They broke me "from the crib", and now the 36 yo woman I am is still broken. Thank you for sharing this and creating a communitity support thru ur videos, you might be saving more lives than you think; BTW, does anyone here knows any shrink specialized in ex jehovah's, based in Paris or France ?
@cain2655
@cain2655 2 ай бұрын
You have a damn good speaking voice and really good information to share. You are always right on the money and on another note Margot Robbie has nothing on you.❤😊
@percubit10
@percubit10 7 ай бұрын
I was around these people and they gave me the cringe., These people are the major cringe. Sex is Natural part of human experience.
@djmandolivechicago2844
@djmandolivechicago2844 7 ай бұрын
Pressure cooker ( Hilarious 😂 😅😅😅😅) nailed it
@mardi63
@mardi63 8 ай бұрын
Fabulous video thank you !! 🩷
@NunyaNomi
@NunyaNomi 11 күн бұрын
Raised Catholic, same thing. All it did was make me more curious.
@gbbologna5357
@gbbologna5357 7 ай бұрын
So true! I went through the chaperoning BS! I still resent that shit. I feel it is nobody’s business what spouses do in the bedroom. My husband and I did not follow all the repressive bedroom rules and I have a strong suspicion that many others didn’t either.
@deanhendrix3179
@deanhendrix3179 7 ай бұрын
Something about her strength makes her desirable and attractive.
@stoptheshunning
@stoptheshunning 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kindness.
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