Jehovah's Witnesses can now GROW BEARDS!! (wtf is going on??)

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@exjwpandatower
@exjwpandatower 10 ай бұрын
Guys please stop leaving mean comments about Stephen Lett 😢 I can’t like them all!
@nickijaycox7773
@nickijaycox7773 10 ай бұрын
LOL 😂
@stephencherry1387
@stephencherry1387 10 ай бұрын
Try your best. 😊😊
@WWZenaDo
@WWZenaDo 10 ай бұрын
Not to worry, we're upvoting them as fast as they show up... 🤣😝😂😂
@Markomarka3065
@Markomarka3065 10 ай бұрын
Others probably like.
@dogsdroolllquinavancepasre6756
@dogsdroolllquinavancepasre6756 10 ай бұрын
@@ibarramurda Keep your mouth shut don’t talk! Everything you say, will be used against you. You have a right to remain silent, plead the fifth. Why would you want to say anything to them? They absolutely will use whatever you say against you as though you were evil they pre-judge you so play dumb unless you want their consequences and you want them to be in control of you because you don’t know anything and they do. If you question anything you will be disfellowshipped. They do not reason they judge. That is their job.
@jimmyvincent123
@jimmyvincent123 10 ай бұрын
If God didn't want men to wear beard's, he wouldn't have put hair on their face. Duh???
@MrPoohman1981
@MrPoohman1981 10 ай бұрын
Same thing I said
@endersdragon34
@endersdragon34 9 ай бұрын
Though God gave us foreskins despite apparently hating them... so who knows.
@Gabby-er1sr
@Gabby-er1sr 8 ай бұрын
Eat a box of birth control pills , , problem solved !😊
@Gabby-er1sr
@Gabby-er1sr 8 ай бұрын
Laser removal cost effective over a lifetime
@FlickTheBrick
@FlickTheBrick 6 ай бұрын
Looks like the foreskin matter is settled, then.
@watchandjewelryloft4713
@watchandjewelryloft4713 9 ай бұрын
JW's: "We're no part of the world." Also JW's: "Let's follow the world's stigma of beards."
@stephstevens2
@stephstevens2 9 ай бұрын
Right??? I thought the same thing.
@curiositypiqued6573
@curiositypiqued6573 9 ай бұрын
It's like men moaning about periods...but breastfeeding is indecent exposure...noone wants to see Stephen lett and a twin feeding a baby...I mean it's like whipping out your manhood casually in a Cafe...but ofc it's personal choice but I've always hated tattoos personally
@daydream5120
@daydream5120 9 ай бұрын
I kept on repeating that over and over again while watching it
@CrankyB1tsch
@CrankyB1tsch 9 ай бұрын
what stigma???
@watchandjewelryloft4713
@watchandjewelryloft4713 9 ай бұрын
@@CrankyB1tsch That was their excuse for not allowing it for so long. Basically because of what "the world" associated beards with. Apparently it's ok to follow "the world," whenever they seem necessary.
@jake_edinburgh
@jake_edinburgh 10 ай бұрын
The hilarious bit about this organization is how they claim that they DON'T micromanage JW's lives.....& they have to tell followers whether to grow beards or not😂😂😂😂
@trashteamracing8262
@trashteamracing8262 Ай бұрын
On one hand, so many personal choices are a matter of conscious. On the other hand, you wouldn't want to 'stumble' your brothers, would you? It's a convenient way to suggest you have a choice, while also pushing the idea that God (the Organization/GB) will judge you for the wrong choice.
@tessab.5379
@tessab.5379 10 ай бұрын
Soooo the bullying and bitching my husband got for the past 10 years about his beard is now ok..... wtf, one of the many hypocritical reasons we left....go micromanage there own lives. We're out.
@mrgordy1980
@mrgordy1980 10 ай бұрын
10 years? Is that all. I heard the carry-on for 40 years non stop. The epitome of worldliness.. no watchtower reading privileges, no public talks, restrictions, can’t do microphone duties, can’t be an elder, won’t get to heaven.. I heard it all. But noteworthy, it was fine for Jesus
@robinkish-miller2990
@robinkish-miller2990 9 ай бұрын
Yes. Cant blame you one bit.
@Vicki_Benji
@Vicki_Benji 10 ай бұрын
I wish everyone could see this cult for what it is. I'm sick of people making excuses for them.
@neverperching1554
@neverperching1554 10 ай бұрын
The organisation does have some good attributes, for example they ...... umm......... like they um........ I'll get back to you.
@Vicki_Benji
@Vicki_Benji 10 ай бұрын
@@neverperching1554 😂
@jerudella8236
@jerudella8236 10 ай бұрын
​@@neverperching1554 You mean..." Let me do some research and I'll get back to you" Lol ​
@Siouxie2947
@Siouxie2947 10 ай бұрын
Yes!! How can people remain blind!
@neverperching1554
@neverperching1554 10 ай бұрын
@@jerudella8236 Yeah, like the return visit that you know is never going to happen.
@etieneko
@etieneko 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I live in Europe and know an elder who got disfellowshipped because he grew a beard and refused to shave it
@lavender4658
@lavender4658 9 ай бұрын
Where in Europe do you live? cuz both my parents used to live there, and they said it depends on what area/congregation you're in. Two different congregations could be meeting at the same kingdom hall, but they could have different views on the beard policy, which is wild if you really think about it. Also this took place somewhere in norway and england, I think.
@etieneko
@etieneko 9 ай бұрын
@@lavender4658 South-West-Germany
@angelachristina
@angelachristina 6 ай бұрын
I remember my dad couldn't get a position in the congregation due to the fact he had a beard. But he wasn't actually bothered by that😅
@kamiingtv
@kamiingtv 21 күн бұрын
Wow what unity the JW organization ​@@lavender4658
@alans.wendelschafer6588
@alans.wendelschafer6588 10 ай бұрын
Grown men needing permission from other grown men to have a beard or not. As my formerly indoctrinated self would have said, "It gives a very bad Witness. Because it makes us look like fanatics."
@WheatDos
@WheatDos 7 ай бұрын
Or as the Internet would say: "That's cringe!" or "That's not skibbidy!"
@KaliqueClawthorne
@KaliqueClawthorne 6 ай бұрын
I mean I once heared a story that was a good reason But well this was because the dude was part of a competitive beard club so. ... Actually a good reason
@linda9081
@linda9081 5 ай бұрын
Grown men ( many of them seniors) excited about growing a beard!!! Teenage boys get excited about growing their first beard not much older men!! Also cannot imagine a grown man telling another grown man that they can grow a beard if they want. Also what's up with this dude in the video!!!
@thesnowmiser6728
@thesnowmiser6728 2 ай бұрын
​@@linda9081 you good??
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 10 ай бұрын
Many years ago a young dude was coming to meetings, wearing suits, giving comments, and one night he eagerly asked the school overseer if he could join. That elder didn't commend him, or explain how giving talks works, instead he pointed at the guy's soul patch and said that's gotta go. And i never saw that dude again.
@TierraLynn
@TierraLynn 10 ай бұрын
I left after a woman tried to give me a bunch of granny dresses because one night I went to the meeting and my shin was showing.
@enchantedzx
@enchantedzx 9 ай бұрын
@@TierraLynnoh my god how annoying im sorry that happened to u
@melonsg5596
@melonsg5596 5 ай бұрын
​@@TierraLynn yep a lady took me thrift shopping for long ugly dresses...
@TheImprovised
@TheImprovised 4 ай бұрын
That guy's soul patch literally saved his soul. 😂
@TheImprovised
@TheImprovised 4 ай бұрын
​@TierraLynn you should thank her. She saved you a lot of grief.
@nickijaycox7773
@nickijaycox7773 10 ай бұрын
At 5:27 l lost it. When he said VARIETY … (Cringe worthy indeed) I cannot stand the way Lett speaks to begin with. He speaks as if all the congregation are idiots… This just topped the cake!
@RevanMartinez
@RevanMartinez 10 ай бұрын
You'd have to be an idiot to believe this shit
@thomash.schwed3662
@thomash.schwed3662 9 ай бұрын
I can't help but suspect that Stephen Lett is the one behind the 2009 and 2016 Song Books, particularly the inclusion of that song "Listen, Obey and Be Blessed". All nine of the current members of the Governing Body are condescending, to be sure. But, he has to be the single most condescending member. That demonstrates unmitigated gall on his part, most notably against the backdrop of the discourse he delivered at the regional assembly mere months after his own nephew died.
@gradualdecay
@gradualdecay 15 күн бұрын
I also like how he dodged the word 'diversity' as probably being too 'worldly' for Watchtower, lol
@LookoutLance
@LookoutLance 10 ай бұрын
Haha, this is so funny. I remember driving to a meeting many years ago, my wife and I saw zero people on the journey and we concluded that Armagedon must have happened that night...but then we saw a bearded man mowing his lawn so we knew the end had not yet come. I laugh awkwardly at my former self 😅
@talk2s5061X
@talk2s5061X 10 ай бұрын
They are desperate for members it’s so obvious
@bibizolele
@bibizolele 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely, soon they will gas light us about the blood transfusion rule. Pure desperation and I love it.
@kanasas2
@kanasas2 10 ай бұрын
​@@bibizolelea person recently had a bloodless heart transplant 😂 I thought to myself if u can't take blood how would an organ be different
@thomash.schwed3662
@thomash.schwed3662 9 ай бұрын
​@@kanasas2Indeed! During the period 1967-80, in fact, the Society imposed a prohibition against organ transplantation on the laughable grounds that it is "cannibalism". Since the late '70's, the Society has regarded such as a matter for individual conscience. Amazingly, I never could find anything in the Society's publications equating organ transplantation with blood transfusions, even during the years of the transplant prohibition. (If the Society did make such an equation, particularly during those thirteen years, it was so weakly worded that it went unnoticed.)
@adventurouseddie9369
@adventurouseddie9369 9 ай бұрын
I can't wait for them to use gen alpha slang and tik tok terms to adapt to changing times and hop on the trends by making skibidi toilet Jehovah.
@1474mustang
@1474mustang 10 ай бұрын
Could it also be possible that the older generation of JWs are dying off and the younger generation cannot qualify and fill into those positions or actually refusing because they'll be forced to have a clean shave? Could this be the reason for the sudden change?
@thomash.schwed3662
@thomash.schwed3662 9 ай бұрын
That certainly is one reason. However, my initial reaction to the announcement was that this is merely part of another money grab by the Society. Sooner or later, the Society will send letters to the congregations stating that, since the brothers are saving so much in the way of "unrighteous riches" or "filthy lucre" due to no longer buying shaving supplies at least as often, it is "suggested" that they contribute that cash to the Society in order to support the "further expansion of the kingdom work". (This will be on top of the already-extant contributions including the recently adopted per-publisher head tax.) In effect, the pendulum will swing the other way with the Society effectively making beards a requirement and declaring such to be evidence of genuine "spirituality". In other words, no matter how one slices it, this announcement is not the Society becoming liberal or progressive on a given issue. It's calculated and deliberate in order both to fill the Society's coffers and to continue in its attempt at forestalling the appointment of sisters as servants. This is why, as a former witness who is progressive and who does not subscribe to any form of "spirituality", I do not celebrate this announcement. Granted, I personally see whiskers (let alone beards) as vestigial. The key word in that last sentence is "personally". As Panda Tower rightly observed in his narration, beards were never the issue. The issue is the Society taking control of personal matters away from the individual, thereby micromanaging the individual's life-from smoking cigarettes to endorsing the ERA to supporting civil rights to voting accordingly-right down to what is done or not done between consenting adults behind closed doors. Frankly, personal matters are "need to know" information-and the Society does not "need to know", its claims to the contrary notwithstanding.
@bibizolele
@bibizolele 10 ай бұрын
13:2 the fact that this direction also applies to brothers in bethel and other spiritual occupations proofs that beards were banned and looked down upon. An elder asked my brother, “what’s that nonsense on your face( referring to his beard)”. My brother responded: “Its a sign of manhood.”
@putnik805
@putnik805 10 ай бұрын
"So beards are not banned" but they are allowed now, yeah sure. 😬
@kanasas2
@kanasas2 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@john_carter8243
@john_carter8243 10 ай бұрын
years from now they will pull a 1975... "some independent-minded brothers were under the impression they couldn't have beards"
@bibizolele
@bibizolele 10 ай бұрын
You just wait and see. These people are capable of anythingz
@WakeingUp
@WakeingUp 10 ай бұрын
Fo Shure
@WWZenaDo
@WWZenaDo 10 ай бұрын
That's what they're doing, right now...
@junjunjamore7735
@junjunjamore7735 8 ай бұрын
What happened in 1975?
@WWZenaDo
@WWZenaDo 8 ай бұрын
@@junjunjamore7735 After the WT Society claimed for at least 10 years that "the end of 6,000 years of mankind's existence on earth" was coming in 1975 (aka "Armageddon", although the WT Society was too cagey to directly make that claim), NOTHING happened. Most hilarious one of their multiple 'Armageddon' failures, out of at least 3 - 5 false prophecies that they've made since they began. 😂
@xxxxyz854
@xxxxyz854 10 ай бұрын
These questions remain: Is it proper to grow a set of balls? Can a sister grow balls? What color balls are "APPROVED" ?
@Eric_01
@Eric_01 10 ай бұрын
No. No. White.
@xxxxyz854
@xxxxyz854 10 ай бұрын
@@Eric_01 Sam Herd must have passed inspection on a Wednesday morning.
@dancingnature
@dancingnature 10 ай бұрын
I’ve got a biology degree. Surprisingly the answer to whether a sister can grow balls is yes. Some intersex people have vaginas and undescended testes not ovaries ! Not all genetically XY people become male and some have actually become pregnant and given birth . There’s a KZbinr named Blume who is intersex . Sexuality in humans is more complex than laymen realize.
@xxxxyz854
@xxxxyz854 10 ай бұрын
@@dancingnature My teenaged American culture illusions have been totally eradicated by knowledge and a lack of testosterone driven blood; mostly by unenthusiastic hormone levels and ugly women.
@xxxxyz854
@xxxxyz854 9 ай бұрын
@@dancingnature Thanks for the information. Interesting.
@enchantedzx
@enchantedzx 9 ай бұрын
They say you have free will and then when u act on your free WILL you are so JUDGED
@michaelharden2929
@michaelharden2929 8 ай бұрын
When I started helping with the sound and microphones in my congregation years ago, I was counciled by an elder about my sideburns being too long. He said it may "stumble" others in the congregation
@sarahthomas8670
@sarahthomas8670 8 ай бұрын
That word “stumble” always used to get me mad😭😭😭💀
@johnrob6132
@johnrob6132 10 ай бұрын
My cringe moment was as soon as I saw Lett`s weird face .This man could win any gurning contest hands down. The only thing that makes it worse is when he starts spouting his ridiculous " messages from god" dreamt up by him and his eight other crazy cohorts. Sadly all his followers believe all this rubbish and continue to idolise these exploitative men.
@melonsg5596
@melonsg5596 5 ай бұрын
And the way he pronounces certain words😂
@matthewpocock4824
@matthewpocock4824 9 ай бұрын
"The Governing Body does not have an issue with men wearing beards." My father, a presiding overseer, grew a beard on a holiday and kept it. The other elders held a meeting that he ought to have been present for as the Presiding Overseer. They decided that he should shave his beard based on Jehovahs commands. Now Jehovah has changed his mind.
@kamiingtv
@kamiingtv 21 күн бұрын
Yes that non sens God don't change is perfect
@barrycharles4640
@barrycharles4640 10 ай бұрын
What a fiasco! One rule after another, and now "you are "allowed" to grow a beard". Who said that a man coundn't grow a beard before this? This organisation is a mess!
@BrianDrake-gs4zk
@BrianDrake-gs4zk 8 ай бұрын
Still fuming! That time the elders ate my ass out for not shaving one week!
@TheImprovised
@TheImprovised 4 ай бұрын
They did what?! 😮
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 10 ай бұрын
Are they suggesting this has been the GB stand all along? Like elders have been promoting no beards on their own? WOW WOW WOW
@WWZenaDo
@WWZenaDo 10 ай бұрын
Blame the lowest levels of management, so typical of the WT Society.
@SeekingTruth2023
@SeekingTruth2023 10 ай бұрын
22:31 There was no Governing Body... Actually, Lett makes me cringe, as soon as he speaks... how can he not hear himself making lies and contradictions?
@stoobpendous
@stoobpendous 10 ай бұрын
In the next congregation from mine the elders DID stop a man from getting baptized because of his beard.
@fadedglory1045
@fadedglory1045 10 ай бұрын
Oh ya. No baptism, no talks, no answering, no door to door... nope nothing unless you are always clean shaven. One brother had too much 5 o'clock shadow coming straight from work to give a student talk and he wasn't allowed to give it.. ya no they have no allowance for any divination.
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp 10 ай бұрын
There was a young dude who was coming to meetings, dressed in suits, giving answers at the Watchtower study, and eagerly asked the school overseer elder if he could join the theocratic school. The elder didn't tell him that was great, or explain how the school and giving talks works, he pointed at the guy's soul patch and said that's gotta go. Never saw that dude again.
@EmilySolem-Davis
@EmilySolem-Davis 10 ай бұрын
🤦‍♀️
@WWZenaDo
@WWZenaDo 10 ай бұрын
​@@cygnustsp That man had a close escape.
@YanSAA23
@YanSAA23 9 ай бұрын
If wearing beards are the greatest new light we get from God when we are living in a time where we’re at the brink of WWIII, then I don’t know what universe god is living in bc… 😩🤣
@user-qj4od3cy7p
@user-qj4od3cy7p 10 ай бұрын
It’ll be crazy in the future when they decide that “brothers” wearing Beards is gonna be a REQUIREMENT. And anyone who gets a Clean Shaven, will be DISCIPLINED. The cult rules will just be REVERSED 😂😂😂🤫🤫
@thomash.schwed3662
@thomash.schwed3662 9 ай бұрын
We laugh; but, the Society has proven itself more than capable of doing just such a thing. Sooner or later, the pendulum will swing and shaving will be prohibited with only certain rare exceptions. The Society will at some point officially regard these vestigial facial remains from our primate ancestors as an outward symbol of "spirituality". This cult is so far to the Right that even the term "paleoconservative" is too progressive a description. Sooner or later, the Society will officially want Jehovah's witnesses to go back to pre-hominid times and become more and more like our ape antecedents. This from a religious cult which openly denies evolution in favor of special creation! The hypocrisy is glaring!
@sarahthomas8670
@sarahthomas8670 8 ай бұрын
I’m not one anymore. But when I found out about this . I was like this is definitely a cult. You can’t just randomly decide that like ughhh they’re so weird. I remember an elder got defollowship bc he had a beard . So how would he feel seeing it now being allowed. Like what was the point kmt
@mikewayne6608
@mikewayne6608 5 ай бұрын
Kmt? Are you a Jamaican?
@victorc2869
@victorc2869 10 ай бұрын
17:35 by this logic, it should be perfectly acceptable to attend a meeting in jeans and clean shirt. No need for polyester suits for salvation!😂
@zappm
@zappm 10 ай бұрын
The last third of this video is what sets Panda apart - own thought and experience mixed with clear logic and compassion. Good bye little sheep!
@rickwilkerson3865
@rickwilkerson3865 10 ай бұрын
“For some years based on the conclusions of ‘some’ archeologists our publications portrayed Jesus as clean shaven.” They KNEW Jesus had a beard according to Scripture. What a lie. Their publications till the 1920’s had Jesus in a beard. It was in the 1930’s they started misrepresenting his image till 1968. Had him looking like a Roman in a tunic. I used to draw in his beard at the meetings 😂
@octtubeinc3129
@octtubeinc3129 29 күн бұрын
Growing up Pentecostal we had the same policy that we needed to be clean shaven to be in ministry. Can you react to some Pentecostal cults?
@exjwpandatower
@exjwpandatower 29 күн бұрын
Which cults in specific?
@HJtheHippie
@HJtheHippie 27 күн бұрын
The Church of God
@rakeanomander1
@rakeanomander1 10 ай бұрын
Is this how this oaf speaks all the time? He treats his audience like they are idiots.
@hyp77
@hyp77 10 ай бұрын
Imagine now how the governing body feels, when they see their grip loosening on the masses.
@lazerbrain8784
@lazerbrain8784 10 ай бұрын
A question will be 'what sort of beard will be acceptable? Just like hair length and style, the leadership will be enforcing a standard. Expect a secret Elders grooming manual.
@allhandlestaken
@allhandlestaken 6 ай бұрын
Whenever I watch Stephen Lett I can't help wondering how long it will be before his eyebrows go so high that they disappear over the top of his head as he speaks.
@TheImprovised
@TheImprovised 4 ай бұрын
😂
@richardcopperfield8978
@richardcopperfield8978 10 ай бұрын
In the congregation I grew up in, wearing gay colors like Stephen’s shirt and tie would mean a talk with the elders in a small back chamber. Only white shirts and blue ties.
@K-Fred
@K-Fred 10 ай бұрын
Do any other announcements by the GB include zero eye contact while explaining new light?
@dogsdroolllquinavancepasre6756
@dogsdroolllquinavancepasre6756 10 ай бұрын
“If I only had a brain.” 🎶 ~Scarecrow 🧙🏽 from Wizard of Oz
@heimirjosefsson510
@heimirjosefsson510 10 ай бұрын
What a theatrical guy! This is like a bad audition for Broadway.
@javen_raven
@javen_raven 10 ай бұрын
Did the same, grew a beard got rid of it. Knowing that I made both decisions gave me more back than I thought. Only people out of control would try and control something that has no effect on them.
@freespirit3891
@freespirit3891 10 ай бұрын
A beard is a natural. Why would God give it to you in the first place if he only wanted you to shave it off? They show Jesus and crew with full beards up in Heaven. So either God is confused or the organization is very confused. They can't have it both ways.
@Eric_01
@Eric_01 10 ай бұрын
@@freespirit3891 Some might ask the same about their foreskins...
@freespirit3891
@freespirit3891 10 ай бұрын
​@@Eric_01 EXACTLY.
@CarlStJohn-x9w
@CarlStJohn-x9w 10 ай бұрын
How can anybody be taken in by Mr Stephen Lett as your spiritual advisor? 😮
@SomeDudeSomewhereOverThere
@SomeDudeSomewhereOverThere 10 ай бұрын
Brothers to bearded me before announcement" I think you need a shepherding call to encourage you spiritually." Brothers to bearded me after the announcement "We think you're doing a fine job. You're going to be appointed a servant next time around."
@HansBergh
@HansBergh 8 ай бұрын
the minute the dude opened his mouth. he speaks in such a condescending manner
@Chillipowww
@Chillipowww 8 ай бұрын
Finally, someone to talk about how GODAWFUL his voice is. No idea if it’s cuz he’s old, or his accent, or a way to make himself seem better, BUT WHY DOES HE DRAG ON. I cannot explain it any other way than he spends too much time on words. His voice is just., I CANT.
@talk2s5061X
@talk2s5061X 10 ай бұрын
I might go back, you can grow a beard now, dont have to go on ministry 😂😂
@TallKulWmn1
@TallKulWmn1 10 ай бұрын
Nah, not yet. Let’s see what’s behind door #3 of general human rights thru the eyes of WT 😉 Voting? Gambling? Both are allowed in the secret elders book🤐
@talk2s5061X
@talk2s5061X 10 ай бұрын
@@TallKulWmn1😂😂😂 whats next fornication
@sirwilliamclickclack7492
@sirwilliamclickclack7492 9 ай бұрын
Ikr😂😂😂😂
@c-styl3
@c-styl3 10 ай бұрын
Next legalizing of Marijuana 🎉🎉
@etieneko
@etieneko 10 ай бұрын
Actually the elderly book says it would be legal under some circumstances but of course nobody knows this
@c-styl3
@c-styl3 10 ай бұрын
@@etieneko love it! 👌
@Eric_01
@Eric_01 10 ай бұрын
@@etieneko LOL. Yeah, there is no way any rank and file have a clue about that. That you can just download that damn Shepherding book online is so poetic.
@dennmmmy
@dennmmmy 10 ай бұрын
Relax soldier lolololololololol
@c-styl3
@c-styl3 10 ай бұрын
@@dennmmmy 🤣
@rocklandrhodes5320
@rocklandrhodes5320 9 ай бұрын
I love your You Tubes. Please keep up the good work and the fantastic narration. I know a few JWs. A neighbor helped one deal with the mental anguish he experienced by leaving. His entire family shunned him. He is doing well now. Good luck to all exiting the cult. I live in the Hudson Valley of New York. The JWs are a major presence in the area.
@84durango
@84durango 10 ай бұрын
The irony of them saying it's acceptable for people having beards in "worldy" business and government so now its ok for jw's is hilarious
@davidjarvie9546
@davidjarvie9546 10 ай бұрын
If God didn't want us to look scruffy why oh why did he make us with a beard??? Totally man made bullshit...even the Lord had a beard...and is it only the tribal nations who don't have facial hair belong to God? JW governing body is total mind control. Thanks Panda...you make me laugh every video..🇬🇧👍🙏🙏🙏
@Eric_01
@Eric_01 10 ай бұрын
What's funny, my observance since the '80's, is the number of "brothers" that would grow their beard or shave a goatee during EVERY out-of-town vacation. Or, would ONLY shave on a regular basis on the day of a meeting. Those two things say a lot about "principle" vs. "rules".
@lieblingmike
@lieblingmike 6 ай бұрын
Haha, yes, I remember that. Holiday from work, holiday from slavery to the GB.
@kenkensson
@kenkensson 10 ай бұрын
Those from the Instagram picture belong to the congregation i belonged to. Beard have always been a hot topic there. It was known to be ok to have a beard there even if it was not ok in other congregations in Sweden. When the Watchtower magazine about beard came the elders took it as It was fully ok to have beards. Next time the CO came to visit he was shocked how many brothers had beards the elders had to counsel a couple of us that had started to grow beards😂
@kanasas2
@kanasas2 10 ай бұрын
I remember arguing this . I said the greatest man who ever lived...a book about Jesus everybody had beards 😂😂. I also said if Jehovah didn't want me to have a beard why would he make hair grow out of my face 😂.
@jimmyvincent123
@jimmyvincent123 10 ай бұрын
The stepford organisation!!👎👎
@JimParvin-o9e
@JimParvin-o9e 10 ай бұрын
Will they have a beard buster to go around telling them that their beards getting out of hand, like ZZ TOP beards?
@hotmilo
@hotmilo 6 ай бұрын
I grew up in the Old Apostolic Church (South Africa) and there were very strict rules. Children have to be baptized at 16, where they will then become a 'Brother' or 'Sister'. Men have to wear suits and no beards. Women have to wear long dresses with their shoulders covered and a hat or cloth on their head. Women aren't allowed to preach. Men aren't allowed to have long hair. Women have to wear high heels. There is a patriarchal structure that consists of 9 levels of authority. When you see a member of the church you HAVE TO greet them by shaking their hand, at the church or in public. When you do, you have to call them by their position (for example "Good morning Priest", "Good morning Brother") . The levels are Brother/Sister, Priest, Deacon and Elder. Those 4 have to be present at every church. There is then the higher 4 which rules over a set area. They are the Prophet, Overseer, and some other 2 (I can't remember). Lastly, there is the Apostle that manages a large amount of churches. Imagine the Old Apostolic Church as an organisation (which it kind of is) that has branches and offices all across South Africa. The town I live in has two churches. There is a service every year that's like 3 hours long, where the souls that are gathered throughout the year, and then they possess a body and go to heaven. Each family has a priest. Members have to write down the dreams they had when they slept because it apparently has signs of the future, or something. God is seen as a spirit. The apostle can change the weather and bring people back to life. Communion is taken every first and second Sunday of every month. Members have to go knock on people's doors to preach. Members are expected to sing in the choir. The choir practice is held on Tuesday evenings. The youth has to attend a youth service on Thursday evenings. I had to play the organ, which means that I had to go practice every Wednesday. At that point in time (I was 15) I had to go to school, was a chair person of an outreach club, a manager of the cultural club, a member of the school newspaper, part of the entrepreneurs in, played chess and debates. This also means that I had to deal with all of that, go to church from Tuesday to Thursday and attend the Sunday service. I am now 20. My dad invited two priests to our house and expected me to sit with them and listen to their preaching so as to convince me that their god is real. I told them no, because I have priorities. I went back to my room and studied for my college exams. Before they left the one priest called me and asked if he can take one of my plants, to which I said no. A few months later I saw that the plant was gone.
@arcellgreen4754
@arcellgreen4754 10 ай бұрын
Why is the Truth always changing J.W.🤔
@RippleE.M.P
@RippleE.M.P 8 ай бұрын
8 million? what happened to the nine million?
@proud2bpagan
@proud2bpagan 8 ай бұрын
@expandatower the JW knocking how informal the Swedish brothers look in their photo reminds me of my mom saying that when local schools instituted a policy requiring uniforms to try and cut down on bullying was that it wouldn't, bullies would just find something else to mock about someone.
@josepheridu3322
@josepheridu3322 9 ай бұрын
Why do they make such an insignificant issue for the faith, so big?
@mikewayne6608
@mikewayne6608 5 ай бұрын
Control!
@jonsoto8233
@jonsoto8233 6 ай бұрын
It's ironic that they ignore the fact that John the Baptist looked like a homeless hobo according to modern standards of dress.
@Radrook353
@Radrook353 10 ай бұрын
Their glib excuse is now: "Yow can't be dogmatic!:" That excuse is going to facilitate the unceremonious discontinuation of many a sacred requirement..
@TallKulWmn1
@TallKulWmn1 10 ай бұрын
As a female JW I knew the repression of autonomy. I envied the brothers that could seemingly do as they please. Within reason of course😏 I asked the new unbaptized publishers why they had shaved. I was 13 with a crush on one. Then he shaved too 😑 Responses varied from beards are scratchy to the sisters wanted clean shaven men. No one admitted the ultimatum was the real incentive. I was a born in. I couldn’t imagine that not one brother wanted a beard. But, being the Happiest People on Earth, I just accepted that it was not my concern. Even tho it felt like Twilight Zone… What I’m realizing is the brothers were under scrutiny too. They didn’t dare complain about imposed ideas. To all of you brothers I envied I’m feeling empathy I wish I’d have known back then. For me it wasn’t about the beard, it was about individuality of personality. These worldly guys would come to the KH full of life & potential. In six months time they’d go thru the cookie cutter of putting on the new personality for all the world to see. Thank you Caleb for all you do. Your perspective is valuable to deconstructing the borg 🫶
@Eric_01
@Eric_01 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, being a "brother" sucked as far as repression went. Couldn't grow your hair past your collar, couldn't have bangs that were too long or hair over your ears. You could grow sideburns, but limited. You could grow a mustache, but limited. You had to wear a suit coat if you were on the platform, period. Ties were a rule if you wanted any privileges at all. My dad got kicked out of working at the magazine counter because he would wear a tie and sweater, but not a jacket. We didn't have the "tight pants" issue back in my day, but that can be piled on. If you were into physical fitness, you'd be reminded to keep it toned down. By all means, NOBODY was allowed to be sexy without getting a stern finger wag. And on top of it, brothers were all expected to be ministerial servant material or else you weren't even a reasonable candidate for a wife. But, with all that, I'd take it over being a female in a congregation. That was way worse.
@mexicanson
@mexicanson 9 ай бұрын
​@@Eric_01Fuck me! I remember all these rules. The one that bothers me till this day is the unspoken rule where Brothers had to be a Ministerial Servant or higher to even be considered to get married. I hated that shit.
@munchiechiemunch3475
@munchiechiemunch3475 5 ай бұрын
I remember an elder had a facial condition that got worse if he shaved and he had to write to the governing body for permission to keep his beard
@mikewayne6608
@mikewayne6608 5 ай бұрын
Very sad, getting permission to grow facial hair regardless of the reason.
@1991LMR
@1991LMR 10 ай бұрын
"You peanut"😂 your insults never fail to make me laugh
@davidfitnesstech
@davidfitnesstech 10 ай бұрын
It's maddening how people will always think these *edicts and mandates* come from a supposed *unknowable, undescribable 'supreme entity,'* when in fact, there is *only evidence* that these decisions come from a *group of mere men trying to coalesce their *varying interpretations* of their 'holy book'. Just the fact that in all religion, a *'supreme God'* always has to use *'middlemen' or 'proxies'* to communicate with the rest of his "children", makes the entire concept of religion easily *corruptible and perverted* and the people and process easily *manipulated by these obligatory, inevitable so-called "Prophets".* (That actually *claim to speak for God)* A simple, mortal man; the *Pope,* is the perfect example of one of these *unquestioned, compulsory proxies.* Yet people flock to him as if he is second only to Jesus. Sadly, many people will say that he is :-/ These *religious institutions probably wouldn't even exist* if people weren't made to feel *as if they needed them* and *could not have a full life without them.*
@thomash.schwed3662
@thomash.schwed3662 9 ай бұрын
To put it quite bluntly: Man created God in his own image and likeness.
@freespirit3891
@freespirit3891 10 ай бұрын
22:30 "to be obedient and submissive to gods organization ". So we get df'd if we aren't submissive because of policy, but then years later they change the policy that we got df'd for, no apologies just ' you were running ahead of gods chariot' bs. Why is it many of us read and understand a whole lot more than the GB? Could it be because they don't have the Holy Spirit that they actually put in print? That's one of the best reasons I i can think of to leave this cult. Please people. WAKE UP!!!
@murph8411
@murph8411 10 ай бұрын
lol in harmony with romans 14:4 but Lett doesn’t actually mention what it says because then they might have to stop judging people altogether! No mention of beards there but judging people in general. That might mean they can’t complain about tight trousers, not wearing suits or wearing your hair however you want as well. I like how he also uses the fact that people in positions of power in governments or business now wear beards as if that’s a good reason for the J.Ws to follow suit. Aren’t they always saying how bad worldly people are and that they’re different? Shouldn’t beards being worn by people in power who are looked upon as under satan’s control be a reason to avoid them?
@thomash.schwed3662
@thomash.schwed3662 9 ай бұрын
I understand your point. However, the context of that verse is dealing whether or not to eat meat and whether or not to celebrate holidays. The specific tenor is: "Don't look down on me over the fact that I choose to eat meat and to celebrate holidays." Yet, ironically, the Society does look down upon those who make an informed decision to observe certain holidays, directly in violation of Romans chapter fourteen. I say "informed" because such individuals are well aware of the origins and the fact that such origins no longer figure in the festivities and they decide to celebrate anyway. In other words, they celebrate for personal-not religious-reasons. Again, the hypocrisy on the part of the Society is both tangible and palpable and it knows no bounds.
@floptaxie68
@floptaxie68 9 ай бұрын
The gaslighting is wild☠
@dstarkspp
@dstarkspp 10 ай бұрын
Oh my this is crazy!
@liv328
@liv328 10 ай бұрын
I have a very honest question to religious believers. If god is all knowing, why does he keep changing his mind?
@Eric_01
@Eric_01 10 ай бұрын
It'll be tough finding an actual believer in here.
@mikewayne6608
@mikewayne6608 5 ай бұрын
That's easy, the organization is their god. With that being so, men are fallible.
@smallestmikenike9261
@smallestmikenike9261 6 ай бұрын
The cult alert bit is really funny but that used to be my alarm sound so I feel bad every time it plays
@wurstbrat.
@wurstbrat. 8 ай бұрын
I love him accidentally admitting there was an extant policy. Absolute garbage.
@kartyl1wielki
@kartyl1wielki 2 ай бұрын
That stadium at 1:33 is the home field of my local football team xD
@nova_crystalis
@nova_crystalis 6 ай бұрын
i love how stephen talks to the audience like their fucking regarded
@exjwpandatower
@exjwpandatower 10 ай бұрын
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@Ken-h9r
@Ken-h9r 5 ай бұрын
Even as a kid JW, I always wondered why we weren't allowed to have beards just like Jesus Christ
@user-cg7gd5pw5b
@user-cg7gd5pw5b 3 ай бұрын
6:07 LMAO I got an ad for the remake of 50 shades of grey
@penguinpolo
@penguinpolo 4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@brianking9424
@brianking9424 10 ай бұрын
Guys….. we asked them to talk about grooming, and they went beards when we were talking about covering up CSA…. And I thought they were not supposed to follow men??? Now that those men have beards and prominent jobs it’s ok?
@Jaggededge112
@Jaggededge112 10 ай бұрын
Next time we see the gb they’ll have duck dynasty beards lmao.
@EmilySolem-Davis
@EmilySolem-Davis 10 ай бұрын
😂
@vadinandez
@vadinandez 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@KaliqueClawthorne
@KaliqueClawthorne 6 ай бұрын
"jesus was portrayed with a well groomed beard" yeah ... Tooootally
@blindovision
@blindovision 10 ай бұрын
This makes me sad. I've grown a beard since I've left over 20 years ago. I just wanted to make sure that any JW hadn't seen me in a while new for a fact that I wasn't a JW. Now I'm actually going to have to say it to them. Lol
@Fede_uyz
@Fede_uyz 7 ай бұрын
Face tatt
@stoicsavage509
@stoicsavage509 7 ай бұрын
Or maybe just get on with your life... Why are you so hung up after 20 years on what cult members think
@Fede_uyz
@Fede_uyz 7 ай бұрын
@@stoicsavage509 because compassion to those still brainwashed is a good thing.
@stoicsavage509
@stoicsavage509 7 ай бұрын
@@Fede_uyz comparison to others is the death of joy.... Live your life
@Fede_uyz
@Fede_uyz 7 ай бұрын
@@stoicsavage509 its not comparison, its pitty and compassion.
@specter2k
@specter2k 10 ай бұрын
Lett with the black dyed beard and yelling makes him look like Scott Steiner.
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 10 ай бұрын
Dont forget Scott Steiner math! Big Poppa Pump!
@specter2k
@specter2k 10 ай бұрын
@@violinfanatickamraz1403 you only got a 33 1/3 chance of making it to heaven, while he's got a 141 2/3 percent chance of making it to heaven!
@violinfanatickamraz1403
@violinfanatickamraz1403 10 ай бұрын
@@specter2k lol! Ive heard from others that the math actually works. And here I thought Scott and Rick were just dumb jocks.
@antoniorigoni5648
@antoniorigoni5648 10 ай бұрын
Grazie del video. Ciao dall'Italia
@justmadeit2
@justmadeit2 7 күн бұрын
Is this new light? 😀
@Simon-rm7pi
@Simon-rm7pi 9 ай бұрын
I knew many "brothers" that had beards and were elders as i was growing up in the uk .
@ClovisPoint
@ClovisPoint 6 ай бұрын
depends who you are and if they like you
@charlescourtney4402
@charlescourtney4402 6 ай бұрын
Every time I watch Stephen Lett speak, he reminds me of a bobblehead doll.
@Hol_u11
@Hol_u11 10 ай бұрын
I noticed the "No more suit and ties in hawaii" comment 😮 wow!
@EASgirl25
@EASgirl25 10 ай бұрын
Y’know, the Bible does say to abstain from blood. I wonder if the JW’s will ban periods next. 😂😂
@enchantedzx
@enchantedzx 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@BeavisMcThe
@BeavisMcThe 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@j.m.3235
@j.m.3235 9 ай бұрын
So when do women get the go ahead to wear pants?
@sarahthomas8670
@sarahthomas8670 8 ай бұрын
OMG TY SM. I always thought this was weird. One time I wanted to wear trousers in the meeting and they said no. I felt uncomfortable in a skirt. And I see other boys my age getting to wear it….
@1234Расслабьтесь
@1234Расслабьтесь 6 ай бұрын
Lol, how did you predict that 🤯
@georgecollura5053
@georgecollura5053 10 ай бұрын
Bullshit Farting, is it you or the Governing Body? In other words, does the Governing Body take responsibility for their mistakes, or do they blame you for the misunderstanding?
@damonrandall9844
@damonrandall9844 10 ай бұрын
I agree Panda. Lett is all about theater. And when the scene of the world changes again, he will allow higher education. As long as it is Clown College!😄
@migdaliafuentes1618
@migdaliafuentes1618 9 ай бұрын
Replace “woman can use pants” when he mentions beards in the talk and it will apply to women using pants. Or replace it with tattoos! They were worldly but now accepted by respectful “worldly” people and it’s a question of personal decision and fashion! 😂 And like I always say: DOWN WITH THE TOWERRR!
@carltonbanks2865
@carltonbanks2865 6 ай бұрын
Aged well, now they can lmao
@Asukasnumber1fan
@Asukasnumber1fan 7 ай бұрын
1:36 my country was mentioned yippee ( Ireland )
@scotwm1789
@scotwm1789 10 ай бұрын
At 11:12, Stephen Lett says, "The Governing Body has asked me to read the following announcement." What!?! Isn't Lett a member of the Governing Body? Did he forget to attend the latesy Governing Body meeting when this divinely-inspired new light regarding beards was revealed? I guess Lett just does what he's told to do -- unlike Ant Mo III.
@mahirmarcus5092
@mahirmarcus5092 10 ай бұрын
My little brother made me shave my beard to be In his wedding because he didn’t want people to know I wasn’t a witness. I was also placed in a segregated section filled with everyone who wasn’t a witness
@danielecolla5767
@danielecolla5767 10 ай бұрын
Let historical and biblical conclusions are real joke. A show of true IGNORANCE .
@dyza5595
@dyza5595 18 күн бұрын
Everytime I rewatch this types of videos I always hear him saying "Ladies and gentelmen of the Juraaaay, my grandmotha was a simple woman-"
@AntiMonitor52
@AntiMonitor52 9 ай бұрын
So ends the Shave Class of Watchtower…
@WWZenaDo
@WWZenaDo 10 ай бұрын
So in 1968 the Watchtower leaders finally read their bibles and learned that NOT having a beard was considered "pagan" and "worldly"...🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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