How Yeast + Zinc Can Play A Role In HIDRADENITIS SUPPURATIVA | Steve Daveluy, MD

[@jenfugo]

Hope you enjoyed this episode! I'd love to hear what you thought. Leave your comments + questions below :) And if you want more information on this topic, check this out → Hidradenitis Suppurativa - www.skinterrupt.com/?s=hidradenitis

[@pilosmetrasek7904]

Hi Jeniffer. The reason, why you , me and millions others have this disease is HYPERINSULINIMIA - combination of insuline resistence and metabolic syndrom. You can prove it by testing yourself (fasting insuline and c-peptide level) , so then you will get a real medical proof. With all respect to doctor, he was really nice person, he kept repeating the same mantra over and over again. The key is limiting loads of types of food from your diet along with lapplying ow carb diet (50g /daily maximum), and intermitten fasting (5/19 hours cycle) due to empowering your insuline functioning. i Can provide you more information to share it - all for free - iam not seller (supplements, hygiene products, food to eat. etc. I improved my health condition from hurley stage 2 or 3 to stage 1.

[@anjijack5392]

I developed HS for the 1st time 2 years ago. I didn't need a Doctor diagnosis because after talking to my younger sister once, she mentioned she had had it for years. Fortunately, I usually only get one boil flare-up every year. They rupture 50% of the time. And I think you're onto something with the zinc thing. I've noticed that even during a flare-up, if I triple up my zinc intake it stops the progression & speeds up the healing. God bless all my fellow HS survivors / warriors. I'm going to look into eliminating dairy, too, even though I already do KETO w/ IF. 🙏🏻🙌🏼💯

[@shabanazaheer1819]

How is your younger sister now?

[@xxo5294]

I’m coming to terms with having HS as opposed to folliculitis. Looking back, laser hair removal I had years ago really significantly reduced this disease for me however it is coming back as my hair is growing back. I am going to try IPL at home to help hopefully. Also, yeast being a trigger makes sense. I’ve noticed bread is a trigger for me - especially white bread. Any baked goods really. I’m clear on keto and flare when I’m back on a regular diet. This disease affects my intimate life a lot. It makes me sad. I want to find a cure.

[@jenfugo]

I very much understand. You may want to consider if yeast is a trigger considering what's going on in your GI tract. Gut health and the microbiome balance can play a role in conditions like this.

[@YourzzTrulyy]

How many laser hair removal treatments did you have, and for how long did it keep it at bay for?

[@lLLLLLLLLLLLLL654]

@@YourzzTrulyy I have HS and I did laser hair removal, I did 24 sessions in a course of 2 years. And it improved a lot the occurrence of my HS boils. I only get every 6 months now. Laser hair removal works better if you are pale with dark hair (like me) and now we can choose through lots of hair removal options, please search which laser is the best option for HS. Mine was the diode laser :)

[@YourzzTrulyy]

​@@lLLLLLLLLLLLLL654 Glad to hear it was helpful for you. do you get flares every 6 months or laser hair removal every 6 months?

[@lLLLLLLLLLLLLL654]

@@YourzzTrulyy Flares every 6 months. My HS is in stage hurley 2 so I have scars.

[@lexie-d7190]

I’ve had this 45 years it’s a family curse. My paternal great grandfather, my grandfather and his brothers, my father and 3 of of us kids. I actually was a test rat for Acutane. Nothing helps really. Removing them causes them to come back of the scar tract.

[@jofla]

Hi Jennifer, I'm a 26 male, I'm not overweight and I have HS. I have been heartbroken these last couple of days, I will get a laser hair removal next Monday. I will try changing my diet and lowering my stress levels. Thanks for doing this

[@CrazyyyJayy]

How did you go?

[@MYHIDDENEMPIRE]

I have a question in regards to eliminating yeast from diet to help HS... wild yeast found in fruits like berries, apples, grapes, etc. is the yeast in these foods the same as brewer's yeast, nutritional yeast and baker's yeast? If we are trying to avoid yeast to help improve HS do we need to avoid forms of wild yeast as well?? If anyone might be able to provide more helpful information on this it would be so greatly appreciated. I have had HS for over 15 years now, it has been such a challenge.. seeing countless of doctors throughout the years who wouldn't even be able to tell me what it was, incisions, antibiotics, being prescribed Metformin... I literately was given the diagnosis of HS just last year. I am now looking for ways that I can take it on myself with diet changes by switching to a whole food plant based diet, working with a therapist to help manage stress and anxiety. I know there is no cure for HS but I am highly hopeful that I can get to the bottom of what my triggers are so that I can cause remission. Thank you for this great content and for anyone reading this that might be able to offer some help.

[@arinemiko]

Thank you for this episode. I just want to clarify for anyone in who wants to include zinc to possibly help their flares, high dose ZINC GLUCONATE was what was studied with good results. The type of zinc likely matters. But be careful, as high dose can have adverse effects on the digestive system - best to use normal dose or high dose only under a doc supervision. I haven’t used it myself, but am planning to.

[@yasmindawood5880]

Zinc gluconate works and bleach baths.

[@yasmindawood5880]

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[@adoramy2013]

Dandruff shampoo and diaper cream (both has zinc) helped calm down my flares. I plan to get my zinc levels checked as a DNA test I did showed that I had higher needs for zinc My journey managing this condition continues. All the best to everyone else

[@shestakenjones412]

I take zinc supplements. But I also treat my skin with Antibacterial soap and Witch Hazel. It calms down the irritation and bring the flare ups to a head.

[@jenfugo]

I have a few episodes on zinc. Here's one www.skinterrupt.com/zinc-important-skin/ And this one www.skinterrupt.com/zinc-cream-skin-rashes/

[@candysmith8724]

I use a liquid surgical cleanser as well on flared up areas.

[@adoramy2013]

@@candysmith8724 I agree. I have used chlorhexidine ocassionally when I have flares.

[@margueritebaca3921]

@@candysmith8724 Never heard of that. Where do you buy this cleanser.

[@margueritebaca3921]

Thank you Dr. Daveluy and Jennifer for this super informative and validating pod. It took incessant calls, given unnecessary, useless antibiotics, subjected to contrast fluid for a CT. I've been fiercely self advocating since 2020 to finally get a correct diagnosis just 2 months ago. I am used to being healthy, so I immediately investigate any oddball symptom. My derm prescribed a series of 4 steroid injections. She's defensive when I say that I'm seeking a cure. I'm grateful I discovered you. You prepared me to continue being proactive and informed. I did notice a flare up after consuming brie cheese. We're onto something.🌱💗🌱

[@jenfugo]

I'm so glad that you've been persistent and that you found this episode. HS is no fun and I think there's going to be a lot more coming down the road as more research is done

[@kimtruenorth8800]

So glad to be finding such good people as yourselves discussing H.S. I'm 62 years old and have been on and off with the issue since my early 20's. I have only been diagnosed 3 years ago. I'm so glad to have found Dr.Daveluy and yourself to give me hope. Thank you 🙏

[@richh4230]

@@kimtruenorth8800 what are some things you do to help with the pain when you get a flare up?

[@YourzzTrulyy]

How did the steroid shots work for you? I'm thinking about asking my derm for them. He prescribed topical and oral antibiotics, which didn't work for me. I had a bad flare and went to UC and got prescribed oral predsnisone. It put my hs into remission for several weeks but currently have a flare even on prednisone. I'm thinking about looking into laser hair removal for it

[@margueritebaca3921]

@@YourzzTrulyy I stopped the steroids after the prescribed 6 week series. The derm Dr. said I'd only need a series. The flaring cycles continued and I got adverse symptoms from the steroids, itchy, flakey, skin and lowered immune system. The doctor lied when I immediately asked if this was a cure and if there were side effects. She was angry and pushy when I shared my experience and I rejected further injections. She then tried to convince me that I needed injections for an entire year. She lost all credibility with her lying. I've discovered that after taking every action possible to be amongst, kind, level-headed people, my H.S. feels non-existant. Recently I was exposed to 2 moody people with chaos producing rages, I had an HS flare up. I completely avoid one of them, with a drama addiction, who doesn't want harmony. The other I was able to set clear communication boundaries with and we have understanding, mutual respect, and laughter. Calmness is my cure.

[@yorkiedave9640]

Hi Jennifer firstly thank you so much for doing this Podcast and thank you to Steve who is amazing and I so wish he was my doctor and I had found anybody who could help me in the last 20 years . I went on the typical journey it was lymph nodes and then shaving and then acne etc etc after rounds and round of antibiotics and worse medication such as isotetronoin and nothing has worked. I finally discovered I have HS around 6 months ago . I'm awaiting a dermatology referral however waiting lists are long. This disease has destroyed my life and everything I ever loved about myself and I really want to beat it . I'm curious did Steve every say anything about nightshades? As I've seen contradicting things on these too . I'm currently just over a really awful outbreak and never want to suffer that again . I'm trying everything I can find to make this better . For anybody out there never give up. We are together in this ❤️

[@jenfugo]

No, he didn't mention anything about nightshades. I haven't clinically seen a correlation with nightshade being a trigger. I think to some degree, it's a personal experience BUT I do think that solely focusing on food as the main culprit is shortsighted as there tends to be gut dysbiosis as well (commonly fungal overgrowth)

[@yorkiedave9640]

@Jennifer Fugo thank you for responding, that's interesting I've read a few things on nightshades but nothing conclusive. Few people have mentioned it helped them but as we know it's a very individual disease . I'm really struggling at the moment with flare ups on the left side of my face and they just will not retreat! I'm trying to edit my diet but this does take time . Is there anything you could recommend? Interesting on the Gut Dysbiosis that's something I need to do more research in . My health care providers just aren't clued up about this and I'm struggling to get the help and support I need . So much so I'm going to start an awareness campaign for the UK because there is so little knowledge. I really enjoyed listening to this episode and it opened my eyes alot . Diet can't be the only focus and other factors must be considered too . Again thank you it's really reassuring to hear other people talk about this I always thought I was alone.

[@LisaMarie-mo5ec]

I’ve had this for years and I would get a them after a stressful day and especially when I’ve been standing all day from cutting hair and we don’t have a minute to take a break. It’s painful but I’m glad they have new medicine for now ❤❤

[@leerinbigham7565]

I’m a hairstylist too. Just diagnosed at 41 years old. Trying to put a smile on my face with clients while in pain is terrible. I’ve told a few of them but no ones heard of this so it’s so hard to explain.

[@mukainyengerai]

Can you get laser hair removal if you have HS lesions that don't close

[@suzyhazelwood9942]

I tried the yeast free diet and zinc when I was in my early 20's... sorry, that just did nothing at all. BUT... I did find a cure many suffering years later... YES IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE CURE for me.... eating parsnip soup four times a week. I discovered it by total accident because I had got into making vegetable soups. Parsnips were the last vegetable I tried because I never liked their flavour. Just out of curiosity I tried making a parsnip soup and added a little milk to tone down the strong flavour of parsnips and found it wasn't so bad after all. I then experimented with roasting parsnips before making the soup, that also tones down the strong parsnip flavour. Adding a small amount of potato, wholegrain rice or cashew nuts can also help smooth out the flavour. Once cooked I'd blend it smooth.... it seems more effective eaten as a blended smooth soup. I also learned to like parsnips more and ate them with some of my meals... especially roasted... they taste awesome!! It totally transformed my skin... no more abscesses, no more itchy skin (I had other dry skin conditions on my hands resulting in tiny blisters)... it all vanished within a few weeks. I also found using a shower hose and spraying cold water on the effected areas hugely helped in clearing an abscess up. The cold water closes the pores of the skin preventing bacteria getting through the skin and making everything worse. Avoiding touching the effected area also helps as any kind of touching the abscess just seemed to make it worse. Also I discovered all citrus fruits, tomatoes, food products with vinegar like ketchup and mayonnaise were a really bad irritant to my skin... seemed to encourage abscesses. Once I had healed, after six months I gradually introduced those foods back and found as long as I kept that parsnip soup going in my diet, I could eat them with no bad effects to my skin. Parsnips have a tremendous healing properties... totally underrated vegetable. Please give it a try and see if it might help you too.

[@ingridmcfarlane8348]

Hello Suzie. I hope you are for real. Bcz items you mention like potato and milk, seem extremely inflammatory to my daughter's flares. She is 16 and suffering. Plz respond if you have really had good results and more importantly, if you ever got a medical diagnosis, or did you self diagnose.

[@sachin265]

​@@ingridmcfarlane8348potato and milk would be a NO NO for sure. Dairy and carbs are the best friends for HS. I'm inclined to try the parsnip soup though. Sounds interesting

[@richh4230]

Is it still helping?

[@candacedries7882]

I am so curious about this… Following this. Please update….

[@sergeifitzgeraldfih1031]

Thank you for your help, unfortunately they are not available all year around

[@synspire2463]

I’ve been thinking about laser hair removal for this for a while now and you’re the first person I’ve heard mention it. I was diagnosed back in 2014 and I’ve only been offered clindamycin. I wasn’t trying to take antibiotics all the time so I went plant based in 2018 eventually which I think did help. For having it as long as I have I could’ve progressed it much further had I not made that change or quit smoking. I like a very active lifestyle though and have difficulty with managing stress which I noticed is a big trigger for it, so I still deal with it from time to time. trying to make headway with this has felt like living in a closet …with not much going on with new information on HS. Going to try the Zinc and talk to my doc about the antibodies. Doing my best to avoid and prevent more scaring in the future and super hopeful on laser hair removal.

[@jenfugo]

Yes, the laser hair removal was key for me. I'm really glad that I did it!

[@YourzzTrulyy]

​@jenfugo what type of hair removal and how many treatments before you saw improvements?

[@TheBr20042003]

I was diagnosed this year after 20 yrs of struggling with "boils." My primary was not helpful and just wanted to lance everything or should I say butcher me. 😢 I finally saw a video that said dermatologist were who I needed to see. Going on 2 yrs seeing a dermatologist had to switch to a female after getting them more in the groin and she finally said its HS. Now to find a regime or diet that will lessen the severity.

[@kayjuhas8416]

Thank you for sharing this information...I have been suffering for years with this...

[@London_pilla]

Hi Jennifer. I hope this message finds you well. At first I’m very thankful I found your videos. Coming to the HS I’m suffering it from 4years. It has never gone from that time. By your video I understand that I’m in stage 2. Doctors are recommending a surgery for me which I don’t want to go. I bleed too much blood from my HS wound. Rarely I’ll get pus, you can say 2%and remaining I bleed. What are your thoughts and I want to know your opinion on this. Thank you

[@London_pilla]

From almost 6months I’m bleeding everyday. Hardly I won’t see stains at the end of the day. It’s really depressing. I have used doxycycline 250 on and off from these 6months. I changed my doctor and she recommended Lymecyline 408mg for 6months.

[@jenfugo]

Hi! We are SO sorry you are dealing with HS. It's truly exhausting and can be so hard on mental health. Have you looked into these topics on the site?? Last resort, it may be worth it to book a consult with someone to get your gut health tested and see an integrative practitioner. Jen would love to be able to work with you, but you should do your research and pick someone who is able to handle your issue! +Hidradenitis Suppurativa - www.skinterrupt.com/?s=hidradenitis +Root cause - www.skinterrupt.com/?s=root+cause Let us know if you need anything else.... - Team JF

[@fiveelementhealing6332]

You are Indian right Have u ever heard about virechan the purgation therapy in Ayurveda U should definitely take that It’s the cure

[@socalfriend6985]

I read somewhere that folliculitis could prompt insurance to pay for laser hair removal. I will find out for sure!

[@anjijack5392]

Plus, HS is considered a disability and you could end up in disability.

[@MelanieCharlesMusic]

Amazing video! Thank you so much 🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@Lorob854]

Is it possible that this is a condition but they are never boils ?? Never a boil. But the groin is affected by that sweat feeling and it irritates the skin and when walking and chafing it blisters up. The blister can pop same day no problem at like a friction blister. But they come daily. And the sweat in the groin has to be extremely managed. And the whole skin in groin is irritated. Still seems like follicle issue but never a boil for 10 years.

[@mukainyengerai]

My HS calmed down when I was pregnant but since giving birth it has been wild and it gets specifically painful during my period....what do you guys recommend

[@livelongandprosper_x]

Girl, same... :/ I guess our hormones went crazy and have to calm down... It's been 16 months and I finally see some improvement in my armpits. I also take supplements for hormonal balance, like myo-inositol, holy basil, peppermint tea (strong).

[@vanessajean-jacques6997]

It does calm down after a while! The same happened to me

[@melissamolina4158]

Is there a specific zinc supplement that is recommended?

[@sachin265]

Try Zinc Gluconate by Natural Essentials. Please check it out with your personal doctor. Good luck

[@DeirdreMFox]

2 yrs ago HS had me in the hospital for 8 days , 3 operations on it, shingles attacked it on top of it, wound pump for 4 months. The back of my shoulder looks like I was bitten by a shark.

[@jenfugo]

I'm so sorry that happened 😢 Are you still dealing with HS now? Or has it gone into remission

[@synspire2463]

I had shingles really young multiple times aswell… I’m wondering if these two are connected and if these disease has more to do with stress/Dysbiosis

[@DeirdreMFox]

Its an overactive autoimmune response the the hair follicle, stress and diet are defiantly linked. Zoster is in Hepatic many strains@@synspire2463

[@melissamolina4158]

I'm so sorry to hear how bad it jas gotten for you😢. My son has it and I would give anything to find a cure or even something that would calm it down.

[@DeirdreMFox]

What I had done on my back needs to be done again. The scar keeps leaking at times and there is still a big bump there. I also suffer them in my groin, armpits, breast area smaller ones. Im 62 and it started when I was 13. I gave up gluten that seems to have helped. I follow Medical Medium protocol for MS and making the changes with that to my diet has helped. @@jenfugo

[@philippaswallow5206]

Do you suggest not to have any probiotics , i was wondering if the bad gut bactiera and bad yest within the gut vould cause a flare up, Would it be useful to have good gut bactirea ie probiotic and a good yeast supplement. This is a very helpful video thankyou

[@jenfugo]

If a probiotic makes sense for your case and doesn't cause any symptoms, it would be fine, but I don't recommend adding in a yeast supplement

[@chinadoll4794]

Hello, I was wondering what you think about birth control and HS. I have been doing some research about it . Some people say it can make your hormones be high and cost HS and some people said birth control can help. I think they was talking about progestin that is in it.

[@melissamolina4158]

Does at home IPL help HS?

[@elitaspence5792]

What are the lasers he recommends?

[@jenfugo]

They're typically yag lasers that are used with HS from reading the literature. You'd need to speak with your derm about what options they have. I was in an early enough stage that laser hair removal in the area stopped the process

[@Waizardt]

Man here 24y old in my country i cant find someone to do laser on my groin. Should i buy home laser?

[@Bobhrin]

​@@jenfugocan you guide me, I am in a similar stage that you were in, would really appreciate any help that I can get

[@jenfugo]

@@Bobhrin you'd need to speak with your dermatologist. Only they can tell you if the laser would potentially work

[@Kevin-xj8sh]

Cureent on doxy, what all food type shoulfld i elimintate?

[@erinkellie4078]

Try avoiding night shades. Tomatoes, potatoes, peppers etc. Look into it! It worked for me. I'm one year three months without a single flare. Nothing! Good luck💚

[@mikyahalbena-yasharal3387]

How do you determine HS, versus mersa?

[@jenfugo]

They're totally different. HS form these painful swollen, initially enclosed (what feel like) lumps under the skin. MRSA would be a skin rash infection ON the skin that can form pustules which may be why you're thinking they are the same, but the pustules look like whiteheads. So, they're not at all similar nor easily confused

[@April-f9q]

Would a Zinc pill help the HS

[@candysmith8724]

PCOS is connected with HS too. I use Butt Paste and liquid surgical cleanser to keep things at bay.

[@angelocean5556]

What's the butt paste? Long term HS sufferer here 😢

[@ellen9925]

​@@angelocean5556diaper rash cream

[@shirleyhardy891]

You cant laser open wounds

[@ReeseCupp29]

for me it’s like soy. I love Natto but it always breaks me out.

[@jenfugo]

Due to it being a fermented food which can hide yeast, that may explain why natto is an issue

[@AbhiSinghThakur]

Ayurvedic is the solution

[@Bobhrin]

Any recommendations?

[@sachin265]

Please batao Thakur ji What do you recommend? Thanks 🙏

[@AbhiSinghThakur]

@@sachin265 take ayurvedic medication under any good ayurvedic doctor and go VEGAN

[@allison471]

@AbhiSinghThakur Please, what Ayurvedic treatment do you recommend?!