Don't Buy These Watches ( You Will REGRET IT!)

[@jean-francoisloop2039]

Homage, fake, trending or expensive, you buy a watch for yourself. 97 % of the people around you don't care about what you wear on your wrist. Unless you interact with watchmakers every day. If you spend your time watching these KZbinrs a little frustration may set in for you If your budget doesn't allow you to buy a Rolex. Don't buy these, buy these! I would say, buy what you want.

[@omar1818]

But wait if I buy what I want because you told me to, did I buy what I wanted or what you told me to buy? So confused!

[@Metal0sopher]

Well said. I watch these videos more like an anthropologists. Human behavior is fascinating. As someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about watches, these watch people are definitely in a cult. No judgment. Just honest truth from an outside perspective. A watch is just an appliance, like any appliance, but the worship, the emotion, the expense, the waiting, the... all of it, is beyond anything other than; cult. A very expensive cult. And watchmakers are laughing all the way to the bank. A cpu circuit board is far more complex than a watch by 1000 fold, yet you can buy a powerful cpu for a few hundred dollars. Damn these watchmakers are price gouging these people into the grave. What a hustle. What a racket. Feeding on those with the most fragile egos. Taking them to the cleaners. Watchmakers, and dealers, are in the "cleaners" business. Amazing.

[@omar1818]

I agree with everything you said, and I share your anthropologist’s interest. Really glad to have someone who shares my point of view. My perspective is a little different though, as someone who has roots in the watch business. (One side of my family made watch components, the other retails watches). Also, I have worked on a number of smart watches. Here is a question: If it is so easy to take the money from watch enthusiasts, which brands succeed and which ones fail? Do you know the formula?

[@jean-francoisloop2039]

@@omar1818 :-) Your decision bro!

[@omar1818]

Nouveau Riche sounds like an insult from the Nepo Babies. Everyone wants to show status. Some people work hard and make deep sacrifices to succeed. They want something to mark their achievement. People who inherit their generational wealth have less need to compensate themselves for their sacrifices. They turn to connoisseurship as status symbol.

[@spirolinardakis5374]

I don’t see the Citizen Tsuyosa as an homage to the Rolex. There’s more to a watch than dial indices

[@mrparkx2]

I think it's a homage but what about it? What's so bad about it? As long as they don't act like it's the original, I don't see any wrong with it

[@jj1234346]

Spending 200-300 vs 4,000 is worth it… San Martin is cool … Pagani naw..

[@thebestoffools]

On the other hand, an hommage watch lets you test if the more expensive equivalent is the watch that is right for you. I thought I wanted an Aqua Terra but after having bought and worn an hommage AT for a few months, I just got bored of the style. The mistake would've been to splurge many thousand dollars on an Aqua Terra first. I don't regret not having bought an Aqua Terra and have moved on since. I'm just not interested in it anymore.

[@TheRealMafoo]

I did the same, with different results. I bought a homage to the Rolex Sub. After liking the size and weight, I then got the real thing. However, your story and mine, are not what she is talking about. For me anyway, I could have always gotten the real thing. I just used an inexpensive alternative to make sure I wanted it before I got it. It was not a thing I ever thought I would continue to wear if I liked it. She is talking about people who are thinking “If I get this, I won’t want the real one”, and that usually never happens.

[@samteks125]

​@@TheRealMafooThe latter applies to me though, because I love my hommage watch and will never throw $200,000 to 500,000 out the window for a vintage 6538.

[@JenniElle]

Good point!!

[@daleyfamily2179]

@@samteks125 How did you go from talking about buying a knock off, watch to throwing $500,000 at a watch. Your comment is total BS. IF you could spend $500k on a watch then you would have spent the $8k on the Omega. Good Lord SMH.

[@muhammadali.8170]

@@daleyfamily2179 are you sped my guy? all you had to do was look up how much 6538's sell for. they do in fact go for 200k to 500k bucks. theres homages made of that model such as the San Martin 5508. the point of buying the homage is you like the looks but your very much not likely going to be in a position to buy the real deal unless your fortunate enough, which at that point you wouldn't be watching this video to begin with

[@robertdeland3390]

Love my $65 (amazon) Invicta pro diver automatic 8976ob. OK, I'm waiting for the watch snobs to chime in with all kinds of negative responses. I've heard them chime in with all their negative glory on other sites. Homage, yes, fake, no. Lots of branding all over it, dial, case, bracelet, no chance of mistaking it for what it is. Best price possible for a Seiko NH35A movement. Watches costing up to $500 use this movement. Yes, I know the more expensive ones are regulated, But mine gains about 7 sec/day. Not bad, really.

[@pnwrider8346]

Most everyone needs a pair of black dress shoes, the sub's design is just a staple, iconic design. no one is thinking " oh, you want me to think that you're rich and wearing a Rolex"

Sorry purists, but from what I know, the Rolex Submariner is inspired by a watch from another brand. Therefore, it is also a homage watch

[@mrbrisvegas2]

@There nothing original in any usable watch design.

[@Mr_Paw_revised]

Everyone knows Invicta Pro Diver is not an amazing watch. But it’s decent. It has decent automatic movement from Seiko, it has 200m of water resistance and it is really cheap. On selected pieces the quality may vary, so it is recommended to buy the watch from a store, rather than online. If You want to have classic looking diver and don’t want to spend hundreds or thousands of $/€/£ it is a viable option. I also think there is a certain cool feeling about cheap, but functional watches. Some of them look really great and after years of use, you get this confirmation about it - It served me well, I wore it while swimming in seven seas and it was really affordable. Good choice.

[@genebigs]

I love my Invicta diver watch too. I also own a Rolex Datejust ii that I love just as much. Wear what you like is my motto!

[@Colonel.B.Sanders]

Avoid Fashion Brand Watches!!!

[@bngr_bngr]

Why?

[@Semper_Iratus]

@@bngr_bngr👈is that ego so fragile it needs 20k worth of affirmation?

[@warren_wuffett8349]

@@Semper_Iratusthis makes zero sense. Fashion watches are generally affordable.

[@lihanou]

No they are really cool and look good as long as they are not expensive

[@laurablockley1269]

@@bngr_bngr because you can get better micro brand watches which are more unique and way better value for money. When I see a watch sales person wearing an Armani I know that I know more than them!

[@FatherSonWatchTalk]

Jenni, I bought the Seiko tank as well and it helped me with my Cartier itch and….kept my bank account safer. Great video 🎉

[@timmanion7459]

I've collected for over 50yrs and have had to save for long periods of time just to buy 1 watch that I wanted . Would always save and take my time to buy what I want . I know I'd never be satisfied with anything else.

[@Mr_Paw_revised]

If I won’t win the lottery I probably will never be able to afford a Patek I really like. So it is just a watch I admire and will look for a different perpetual calendar or integrated bracelet model from a different brand.

[@ProfessorJaimeTollette]

I have watches with THE SAME QUALITY at the fraction of the $$$... Delivered to your door.. Ive tested EVERY watch i sell.. (Ive bought it to make sure theyre the best quality) Thank you..

[@bkwrm85]

What's the longest you ever had to wait while saving up for a watch you wanted?

[@timmanion7459]

​@@bkwrm85Probably 18 months - 2 yrs . I took extra side work on weekends and squirrled $ away until I had enough. Turned out I had that watch for a year , didn't wear it much and sold it .

[@almatt8310]

@@Mr_Paw_revisedTissot PRX 👍

[@ozzy1154]

Are you implying the Tsuyosa is an OP/Datejust homage? I don’t think that’s fair. Neither of those have integrated bracelets.

[@blippacg]

I bought the Timex GMT with Pepsi dial...I call it a Trolex. Won't spend $20k for a Rolex so I bought this instead. Love it. As an aside, I'm pleading with my Rolex AD for a Celebration.

[@angikarchmer5633]

Actually the Oris is a very attractive dive watch. Here in the United States tie dye shirts and the beach often go hand in hand and that Oris dial looks like a tie dye pattern. I remember tie dye shirts came into fashion in the 1960's but they are still popular on the beaches.

[@1SaG]

"don't buy homage watches"... Why not? You can still flip them if you do grow tired of them - I've flipped five Steinharts without much difficulty and without taking a huge financial hit on any of them. If the choices are having to sit on a waiting list/having to buy additional crap you don't really want to "qualify" for the watch you *do* want or having to pay 10 - 30 percent surcharge on the grey market ... or getting a well made homage right now and for thousands less, I'm not sure why I would choose options a or b. I mean: It's not like we're talking about spending a few hundred or even a couple of thousand more to get the real thing. If we're talking Rolex, it's often a difference in the five figure range. Plus if it's a faithful enough homage you can use it as a test-object to see if the real thing would work for you in daily wear. If it's uncomfortable or if you grow tired of how it looks on your wrist, you probably won't be happy with the real thing, either.

[@lebojay]

Agree. I have a clone GMT II. I am never, ever tempted to trade it for a Rolex costing 30x more.

[@GenericUser833]

@@lebojaySpoken like truly fake people. Good work. You missed the entire point of the video.

[@mema4922]

⁠@@lebojayaaah another loser comment. You can’t afford the Rolex, let’s not pretend otherwise.

[@rousseau327]

Pretty sure she answered the why not of it from her perspective. Doesn't sound like it clashes with your viewpoint.

[@TheRealMafoo]

She wasn't talking to you. She was talking to someone who wants the real thing but thinks settling or a homage will scratch that itch. You have no intertest in ever having the real thing.

[@johns1853]

I had my name on a list at a Rolex dealer for 3 years, i wanted to buy the Hulk as featured here. I ended up buying an excellent fake for $400 , the Rolex would have cost me about $15,000. People have commented on what a great watch it is, im quite happy and saved $14,600. Happy days!!!

[@jstoneracing]

Still fake

[@joshitheyoshi2533]

Hilarious I have the exact Citizen shown as a "homage". I also have a Seiko "Seitona" SSC813 that looks like a Daytona. I think homages are fine if it's (1) from a reputable brand like Citizen/Seiko and (2) you're never going to buy the real thing. And unless Daytonas start selling for under 10k - I'm sure I'll never choose to buy one.

[@kaunas888]

According to Jenni apparently the "watch that you REALLY want" always has to be the most expensive one. I have bought homage watches and am perfectly happy with them. I have no desire to overpay for a Rolex.

[@timetowatch_francois]

Love the passion on the piano!! 😂 Thanks for sharing your insight. Great list.

[@JenniElle]

🤣 thank you ❤

[@johnlockhart1272]

Amen Sister! I almost bought a watch last week that fit the first criteria. I didn't and am glad for it.

[@ekimandersom4478]

I buy a fake Rolex every year when i go to Thailand. I wear it the entire holiday and after coming back to Europe i give it away. Surprisingly good those fakes. After using the fake airking for a few weeks i actually bought the real one when i came back. That would never have happened if i didn’t try and enjoy the fake one first.

[@echo-909]

Quite sure that I saw a video of you not too long ago in which you explained how the Seiko Tank "scratched the itch" for the rectangualr dress watch for you and you don't really wanted a Cartier anymore...

[@namor637]

Why regret? We change taste and shouldn’t regret but see that my life is changing perspectives….. Most regrets happen when influencers manage to sow seeds of doubt in viewers or manage to persuade them. Better to throw more questions so they cam make up their own minds!

[@stevens1041]

I absolutely hate homages. I would rather own something with its own identity, like a G-Shock, or a Seiko. I bought exactly one homage in my life--an Orient that was a blatant homage to the Tag Heuer Monaco. Many years later, binned it in shame after the movement on it stopped working.

[@Paul_F_C]

I have learned and my own personal financial cost to only buy what you really want and you will look at the watch you bought and suffer with buyers remorse if you don’t get the watch you always wanted

[@AstroVanTribe]

I LOVE homage watches for many reasons, one being that I'm hard on them. I also like being able to afford many watches that are different that I don't have to worry about.... These days homage watches can often be pretty well made, reliable workhorse movements, sapphire crystals, SS cases - Why spend thousands on something you can get a decent "copy" of for $100....?

[@perosa99]

If you use a fake watch you are a fake! LOL. That is a bit harsh. Watch collectors have a lot of passion for their hobby. But the reality is it is just a watch and everyone may wear whatever they please if they paid for it. I wouldn’t wear a fake one but I don’t think I would judge someone who does. Like fake precious stones, I don’t care if they are original or replicas. Wear what you like

[@etebol]

I am a watchmaker enthusiast and enjoy dropping Sellita and ETA movements on homage cases. Voila I have Swiss performance that costs me under $500. I rather be fake, than be a sucker and pay $$$ for a watch.

[@watch_girl_life]

When the Sprite was released I went on the wait list. Then recently I received the “call”. As the wait was so long I fell out of love for it so I said no thanks. I am at peace that I walked away. And sure enough a couple of weeks later I received a “call” from the same AD for the watch I really wanted. Morel to the story, the AD will still call you if you say no thanks to a watch. Also wait for the one you really want. ✌🏼

[@JenniElle]

absolutely agree!!

[@Swissvistas-fz9ey]

Wearing an homage watch is a good idea in numerous cities these days, where expensive watch brands attract the attention of dodgy individuals: cut your losses! Beyond that consideration, and looking at the terribly bloated prices of prestige watch brands when looking at the actual inputs in terms of manufacturing costs (Rolex is a perfect example), a decent homage watch is in fact the better purchase from a financial point of view. I have a few of these, and happily wear them: why not? I don't care what others think. A well-made homage watch can be extremely reliable, and be more robust (for instance, 904 stainless steel used by Rolex scratches quite easily, as opposed to 316 stainless steel on the much cheaper homage and lower brand watches). Wanting the original version for the sake of a personal craving for overall perfection is understandable, but if all you really want is a similar external styling with generally surprisingly accurate internal clockwork, the homage version is fine, IMO. I would really like to have a Rolex "Daytona", but sticker shock made me settle for a Chinese-made "Parnis" Homage version: it's perfectly OK, is cheaper than a plastic Swatch, and sports a fun Seiko VK-63 auto-quartz movement. What more do you want? Don't get caught up in the money-draining status symbol trap, like most of the present day social media zombies out there. Last but not least, numerous upper market watches have most of their components "made in China" these days: that includes almost everything supposedly "Swiss Made" from Swatch Group.

[@alexsavutube]

Is not healthy to align your self worth to the image that corporations, by the use of marketing tools have constructed around industrial goods. A watch is a watch, it sais nothing about you. It is nice and can tell time, everything else is in your mind and is influenced by branding. If people assume things about you based on the brands you display, those are probably people not worth impressing anyway. I don't have any fake watches but I do own a nice reproduction of Le dejuner sur l'herbe by Eduard Manet, does that make me a fake person? I'm preaty sure Musee D'Orsey is quite atached by the original.

[@Mr_Paw_revised]

I disagree. Maybe not always, but sometimes a watch tells a lot about the person. Rolex, Apple Watch, Daniel Wellington, Tissot, Cartier, Richard Mille, Grand Seiko, Seiko SKX, Doxa Sub are just few examples from the top of my head. If You have the knowledge about watches, You can tell who are dealing with.

[@PatQuakernaat]

well I do not agree sometimes the hommage learns you the watch is just not what you thought I also found that my need to get a daytona was tempered because I loved my Seiko speedtimer soo much I actually grown a liking to Seiko.

[@Horologique]

The Citizen Tsuyosa is not a homage watch!

[@turbyoulance]

Which one of the 3 watches that you opened this video talking about is the one that you are saying is the one you will regret buying ? I am missing the point.

[@pnwrider8346]

I think it's the German logic filtered thru Scottish English Lessons, something's not quite on point.

[@gavinwhite9743]

Avoid homage brands all together, such as Tudor. £80 could get a watch that does everything luxury watches deliver, so you pay a lot for brand and heritage. This brand was founded as a cheaper version of Rolex. Awesome. A brand that still costs thousands to advertise you cannot afford the Rolex, so wear a Rolex homage. Get a watch with its own history, plenty around.

[@daleyfamily2179]

Bet you drive a KIA also too huh. lol Typically this is what people say when they cant afford something. They have justify to themselves the cheaper model is just as good. But we all know its not. You only live once, you are not coming back so why not wear the best. But have it rip off watches are your thing knock yourself. Tudor was started by Rolex. And I do love wearing my Rolex. Thanks .

[@DougFNJ]

This is such a great video, been there done that on all but the fake. I found I ended up spending more money to get to the watch I really wanted while trying similar watches to get there. Seiko Divers, Omega Seamasters, dive watches that were more obtainable to buy sell and trade them to ultimately purchase the Sub.

[@kenvance259]

Wow, a baby grand piano in a German house/apartment. In our current apartment, most of the furniture had to come in via the 2 OG window.

[@Deathignator]

Neighbors will be so pleased...

[@MHolt9999]

I was thinking of buying an Explorer 1 but thought I might get bored of it - so bought a £60 Chinese copy to live with (and did NOT pay the extra £20 to have Rolex on the dial). It STILL turned up with Rolex on the dial - I once got a comment about it being a nice watch - I had to smile and say "It's a copy". It took the heat out of wanting to buy an Explorer, and left me appreciating my genuine DateJust a bit more... BTW the copy is scary good and keeps excellent time - the only way you'd know is by the winding feel and hand setting direction - watch, dial, strap and clasp are excellent - v scary! Like Jenni mentions, if it ever breaks, it will be £60 down the drain, but having said that, it's 2 years old a been on plenty of holidays and nights out were wearing the real thing would be a risk.

[@mastaboog749]

If it breaks you can get the watch serviced. Just not by an AD trusted repairman. A whole bunch of watch makers out there gladly will fix a fake.

[@samteks125]

Scary good? Not if you know what you need to look for

[@daleyfamily2179]

So you are flexing on buying a fake Rolex! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@markh3279]

Good advice as I am torn over the watch I should wait a bit more

[@mastaboog749]

Wow that skydweller looks amazing. Im 6'2 i bet it will fit on me! *Goes out and doesn't listen to your advice and spends way too much on a watch i dont need right now*

[@JenniElle]

haha I AM SORRY!!

[@mastaboog749]

@@JenniElle my eyes are bigger than my wallet LMAO 🤣

[@arthurdub7901]

I’m guilty of this and do have regrets but at the same time I consider it growing pains. You refine your taste and start to find out which actual pricey watch you want to save up for! I just signed up a few weeks ago for a DJ41 Roman numerals azzurro blue 💙

[@MasterSam85]

wut ! First off thanks for the content, and I didnt know Kai was playing piano so well ! Does he publish videos playing classical pieces ? would love to listen to ! Cheers

[@JenniElle]

no, unfortunately not but I'll keep on pestering him about it ;-)!

[@rikoerlemans6715]

Two years ago I bought a Pagani Design Speedmaster clomage for a tenth of the price that it costs to get an original one serviced. So far I have no regrets. Would I pretend that it's a real one? Never.

[@mastaboog749]

Hey I say that's fair game, you got the look you wanted. Where it gets dirty is when people convince other people it's a real watch and then conveniently need to sell it at a "really good" price a couple months down the road. Buying to enjoy = good. Buying to use trickery to gain advantage or money = scum.

[@TheRealMafoo]

@@mastaboog749 I agree with this. However, I do have an issue with Pagani. There are two types of Homage watches. One is from a brand started by someone who loves the look of all the divers for example, and wants to make his own, where he borrows ideas from each, and maybe tweaks a few things... that's fine. You then have Pagani… where I imagine a cad designer is sitting there with a real watch in his hand, and knows any deviation from that design, is considered a failure. The goal is a 1 to 1 copy with a new logo. That to me, is really just a fake under the name of Homage.

[@samteks125]

​@@mastaboog749Is selling $50 AliX hommage watches at gen prices to gullible punters a thing? Even when the dials say Pagani, Cadisen, Parnis, Tandorio, Addiesdive etc.? Hard to believe, honestly

[@samteks125]

​@@mastaboog749Things that never happened 🙄

[@verynormalman]

T4YC: my advice is absolutely don't buy the "hot" watch. The herd get excited, and you get dragged in. A year or so, down the line, you have a watch that is just not "you"! FOMO is just an invention. You're being played. Buy the watch you love, And wear it with pride.

[@chiliprepper7678]

Always meet and then go together to have authenticated.

[@AndreaDoesYoga]

Thanks for the heads up, I'll be careful! 😊👍

[@marcusrawlinson5024]

If you only want a watch because of the styling or the "look" then an homage watch will be fine, if you want a watch for the engineering and quality an homage watch won't be fine and if you want a watch for the prestige, well, who cares.

[@JustMeTalking]

I have a small collection of watches, but try and make them interesting to me, colourful and maybe with a story to tell. - GShock MRG B5000B (Square) - GShock MRG B2000B - GShock MTG-B3000FR - Grand Seiko Tentagraph - Grand Seiko Snowflake - Omega Speedmaster Moonphase 18k Sedna Gold - Omega Seamaster 300 18k Sedna Gold Up next... - Rolex Rootbeer 126711CHNR - Grand Seiko Omiwatari - Cartier Tank Must Large - Omega Speedmaster X33 Marstimer Nothing worth more than £20,000 individually

[@George_Lewis]

I wanted an old Seiko dive watch, specifically the 1968-1970 vintage 6105-8000. I'm certainly not paying hundreds of dollars for a beat up franken-watch, as I wanted an authentic Seiko movement and I want the dings to be from when I fell off of a mountain, not someone else's dings. I bought a RDUNAE 6105-8000, aka slim turtle, and it's case measurements are identical to the old Seiko, right down to the 19mm lug width. It also has an upgraded sapphire crystal and improved screw-down crown. Months later and I'm still very happy with my purchase.

[@greghilinski6571]

The moon swatch is a total dumpster fire. All the hype and demand for a toy watch that the time is right two times a day. Total crap. Forget about it's inability to tell time, I have to go to an authorized swatch store to get the battery changed, service work, etc. Yeah go you NEW York city to get a battery changed. Flag on the play. I have a original seamaster that is great and want a real moon watch. thinking hard against it right now. Bad customer experience.

[@MrTw2009]

I have no idea what you said here

[@paddyj7690]

Currently on the arbitrary wait list for a Rolex Yacht-Master 40, Rhodium dial. Tried it on a few months ago and fell in love. Word is tge wait is about 12 months... We'll see. It's ok if it's longer. Although I do have the money for it, it gives me the chance to save up the whole price for it which will keep me from digging into my savings. I reckon it's worth the wait and the patience will pay off.

[@ba5tard]

I finally bought my panerai after much savings! I'm so in love with it although it's not really high end compared to others! But i really love it!

[@laurablockley1269]

So much to say about this video… 1) great advice.. (the human race always has to work on delayed gratification now and with watches it is so important) 2) I had the blue transparent Casioak but I found the strap a bit uncomfortable so why now do I want the clear one just because you were wearing it? 😂🧐 3) Kai’s trousers and piano playing were awesome 4) great idea for outtakes of you and Kai as I’m sure a lot of people love the videos you do together as I do.

[@glennburnett6071]

I would say an accurate sized homage is a good way to test run a future luxury purchase to see if it in general works for you and your lifestyle.

[@richdubbya]

You only buy a hommage if the watch it pays hommage to either no longer exists or is a watch that is INSANELY expensive. I bought the Crepas after wanting a Longines Frogman. These Longines have been long gone or in a museum. A WW2 relic. Besides, the Crepas has its own pluses like a 1900m water resistance and built FAR better than the original. Or a Rolex MilSub hommage $80k. Get the hommage in that case.

[@beetlefang]

Awesome piano at the end!

[@tizombie]

So … I bought a Moon Swatch Mission to the Moon, then I bought an Omega Speedmaster Professional Moon Watch. Then I bought two Scuba Fifty Fathoms (Antarctica and Ocean of Storms) so of course I bought a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Do I regret buying the Swatch collaborations? No, they encouraged me to buy the genuine articles. Sometimes buying the teaser can end well. 😊

[@michaelriera6277]

Cut it out, none of this happened. You neither have a Speedy nor a Fifty Fathoms. Enjoy your swatches.

[@daleyfamily2179]

@@michaelriera6277 DAMN lol. Fact.

[@GroomsJk]

Excellent topic. I bought a new 36mm (35.4mm) Rolex Explorer 124270 off the grey market and right away noticed how small it looked on my 19cm wrist and in proportion to my 195cm/95kg body. But I kept telling myself that I would get use to it and watching YT vids that validated this mindset. Instead of returning the watch, I decided to keep it and ended up selling it a few months later at a significant loss. I recently bought a 40mm Sea Dweller that I love. It is the perfect Rolex sport watch size IMOP - especially for bigger guys.

[@Mr_Paw_revised]

Yeah, my problem as well. 36mm is too small for me. 38mm is the absolute minimum.

[@DR_927]

Love the rectangular Seiko and have 2

[@snake91172]

The least expensive watch in my collection gets the most compliments. Go figure. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@anthonystevens8683]

Nice one Jenni, that outro would have been great for winding an automatic watch. Seriously some good advice though. I think most of us have fallen into at least one of the situations you describe. I've definitely done the same watch with a different dials but I have no regrets on those purchases but yes maybe that money might have been better saved or spent for some other different watch. Oddly I was looking to get a new cheap older battery powered classic G-Shock square for the last six months or so on a well known internet site and when the price dropped I bought it. It arrived but was slightly different to the advertised watch photos and the box information. Anyway it's a later version that I didn't know about and it's perfect so far and I have no intent on returning it as it was from the US and for the price to return it isn't worth doing. It ticks all of the boxes but it isn't the one that I was hunting down but I'm more than happy with it. Has it killed that original itch though..... we shall see.

[@DawnPeterson-l8h]

It always amazes me how much beauty and precision are added to the parts of amzwatch's watch 99% of people will never see.

[@MarkTosh-u7o]

I just got a deepsea JC. It's gorgeous, and I love it. It's thick, and everyone told me my wrist is too small. But it's comfortable. Should I return it?

[@paperback10]

Great advice.. I need to quit buying the same watch over and over etc etc !

[@DirectorsGarage]

I will spend $200 on an homage to see if I like it enough to buy the real thing later. $200 vs. $10,000 is an easy entry. Companies like Cronos make nice watches. I have an Explorer and Pepsi. I'm on a wait list for the Rolex, but who knows when it will come available?

[@Groovechnnl]

Wow great info here on all the various pitfalls, thanks. Agreed this is best played as a long game although we'll all have to spend some money to learn so best to have fun on the journey. Your intuition will only build with time and knowledge period. May I request some JS Bach on the next out take reel, that was Beethoven? Sounded awesome! Thanks

[@Melgazar9]

Tbh I have a few reps that are close to 1:1 with the genuine watches. These are ones where you can't tell it's fake until you open it. I don't think it's wrong or "makes you fake" as you said. I can easily afford these watches as genuine, but buying a 99% equivalent watch for 5% of the price is not only savvy for someone that buys the watch out of joy, but it's a great trial. Different story as an investment or if you're trying to commit fraud / rip someone off. In addition, many people buy watches for the story or conversation starter. A rep at this level of detail is an outstanding conversation starter - "can you believe they even replicated the steel makeup, weight, and the movement inside?!"... Anyway, just something cool to try it out and not break the bank. The few reps I bought were actually well worth the money because now I know I don't actually like most of those watches that much after having it for a few months (especially the Rolex submariner... I really don't like that watch as much as I thought I would). I would have felt horrible if I spent $10-15k on a watch that I wasn't crazy about. On the other hand, the rep omega aqua terra I do really like and would consider buying the genuine. The world timer Black titatnium is $13K and I swear I almost bought it in the store. I stopped the impulse buy and got the rep first. After having it for a while I do like it, but not for $13k. Anyway... Point is I don't think there's much wrong with owning a rep as long as it's to indulge

[@mosmarb]

I see what you’re getting at with 6 (the repeat watch) but it’s completely at odds with my motivation as a vertical collector, exploring the variety within a model. I think maybe it’s more a case of understanding what sort of collector you are before buying the next watch - do you want a different complication each time, or a different use, or is it just a different dial colour you’re after? I was entirely driven by exploring the range of Heuer (pre-TAG) Carreras, now I’m doing the same with Speedies, so I am very deliberately buying repeat watches, just variations on a theme.

[@Anirossa]

With homages, it depends a lot if you would ever want to buy the original one or not. Also, if its 2% of the MSRP or 20% of the MSRP of the original definitely matters a lot on if the homage is a good buy or not

[@lebojay]

By definition, a brand cannot homage itself. I’d call those reproductions or re-releases. That Oris was not a mistake, Jenni. It’s beautiful and special.

[@maccoretti51]

You're not qualified to comment faker

[@Herr_JW]

Thanks Jenni! Btw, are you wearing a watch with some kind of bracelet protection?

[@DaleHubbard]

I'd also like to know what bracelet/watch combo that is.

[@Bonzo-bd3nk]

I *think* that the watch might be a transparent Casioak. Maybe the Skeleton Series (ref GA-2100SKE-7AER)?

[@DaleHubbard]

@@Bonzo-bd3nk Thank you!

[@ric-taylor9343]

Steinhart ocean series are the best value for money micro brand. The 39 to 42mm range are will made great styles solid reliable best of all affordable.

[@younusimam-thesalamproject6340]

Personally i saved up for my grail and decided not to go for it. I just didnt see the point when that money could be invested. Even if i bought it, i wouldnt be satisfied and within a month would be looking for something else.

[@JerryBadz]

only realtalk, thank you so much! 🙌🏻

[@ThePykon]

wow, nice piano work during the outtakes :). I think Kai is on the verge of a new career breakthrough :D

[@BlackWipeout]

Some people buying a fake watch because they love this watch but they are not ok buying so much money for that. It’s not always for pretending… I can also say people buying expensive watches it’s for saying too others.. I’m rich and you not. The bling bling effects 😊

[@leonbeale5431]

Yes! I am not rich and don't want to impress people. At best I have 3 really expensive watches. I love watches and the aesthetics of at least a dozen other watches which I will never afford. Most I wouldn't buy if I had the money as they are massively overpriced. There are good quality homages where I can wear a near identical watch for a fraction of the price. Don't care if they break or get stolen. If anyone were to ask me, I am happy to explain my love of iconic watches and how a given homage reproduces the aesthetic. To the people above saying a 'fake' watch tells you a lot about the owner, well yes, I am a die hard watch enthusiast, not a pretender or investor. Note that watch design copyright is not forever and becomes public domain after a period of time and many are just that. The Chinese are doing to Japanese watches exactly what the Japanese did to Swatches. This discussion is akin to moneyed people talked about owning Bentleys and forgetting most of the world cannot afford them and simply do not care about showing rich or successful they are. Also most observers simply don't care.

[@pnwrider8346]

that's the world, though, materialism is everywhere. (btw I used an expensive keyboard to type this on, and my monitor is bigger and has a faster refresh rate than yours.)

[@BlackWipeout]

@@pnwrider8346 😂

[@GeniusInventor-dj5zc]

I bought a gevril potente moon phase white dial around $600 with a Sellita Caliber SW285-1A automatic movement because I love the Patek nautilus but will never be able to afford it in my life time. I get compliments on this watch all the time, nobody cares if it’s the real thing or a homage. Buy what you like and can afford I say.

[@StephenOshea]

i think a variety of colours and brands is a great idea

[@jeremydahm2124]

On way to the gym impulsively walked in to try the SD43 stainless. Figured lets see how the display watch wears. Next thing I know I'm walking out with the SD43 Rolesor they happened to have in the back.... Expensive trip the the gym! But.... I do love it.. In fact my buddy grabbed one after seeing mine. Only regret.... My buddy also it. Otherwise, I've never seen another in the wild. Copy cat

[@owenlaprath4135]

My name is not Joe Friday. My name is Owen Arthur. I am a multi-hobbyist and history investigator. I am currently involved in an investigation of near death experiences, because I have several conditions that can kill me at any time. I am diving into a manageable credit hole to get that final watch. It is historically significant. I am buying a Glycine Airman Purist GL0376 that is almost the same as the original 1953 "DC-4" release, designed for globe trotting pilots with its rotating 24 hour bezel and true 24 hour calibre! In the entire watch world, there is nothing like it! It is as unique as a pink unicorn with yellow polka-dots and a neon glow horn! This is no Rolex for sure! It is better! It is cheap in comparison at far less than 1000 US-Dollars. It will be the watch to take to my end! I am buying it, no matter what!

[@balthazarbeutelwolf9097]

Interesting that you showed the Seiko tank as an example of an homage, because... I got that one, but before I did I bought myself an homage - that is: an homage to the homage (from IBSO). For about 10% of the cost. It's a close call which of the two watches I like better. The hands on the Seiko are nicer, but that £20 Chinese watch has a better crown and much nicer watchband. The Cartier was not even an afterthought, I don't spend that kind of money on a single watch, ever.

[@meat_loves_wasabi]

My watch collection started with a Tag Hueur Link Calibre 36 then an Omega , a Panerai and once I got a Rolex about 8 yrs ago I didn’t really have an itch anymore for watches and Moved on to cameras

[@jokeassasin7733]

I feel that too many people start shopping for watches, and don't consider how it will look on their wrists. I've seen way to many Seamaster 300s and Planet Oceans that are so large in comparison that they look like they are on a child's wrist.

[@jriley333]

Thanks Jenni! Just wondering what watch you were wearing in the video.

[@PabIoMexican]

I can see your argument against fakes but your recommendation to buy a homage instead is worse, the homage is similar price to a replica and is essentially the same or worse build quality, if your buying the homage for the similar style … you might as well buy the replica

[@jonathanstamp]

Sorry but this is nonsense - homages can come from genuine brands with proper history and reputation (eg Seiko) - this is totally different experience to a fake, fraud, replica that funds criminality

[@logiclane6935]

Hair looks awesome!

[@markbernard882]

Content was spot on. Awesome video.

[@apanteli]

Great content Jenni. Thanks for making it real.

[@westonraske8152]

Thank you. Some excellent thoughts there. Always enjoy your content 👍

[@ToliverJay]

I grabbed the Seiko Tank and I am 100% satisfied. I can say it will 100% keep me from the Cartier tank.

[@lionslicer383]

I have bought a lot of those watches. In the process I bought a Seiko King Tuna. It is one of my favorite watches, and will always be. I have a Rolex and will buy a Batman soon, but the King Tuna is amazing.

[@eugenedeguzman4376]

You’ve given me second thoughts about getting a pelagos FXD because I already have no date Sub. Ugh. But thanks.

[@pnwrider8346]

for people wearing fakes attempting to let other's think they're actually wearing a Rolex, well, there is some room for personal growth there. I think we're all pretty much in agreement. (costume parties, and young men's booty hunting exemptions allowed) As for homage watches, well, the Rolly sub is pretty iconic, so now it's like wearing black shoes with a suit. The homage watches fit mostly here, you can buy the level of quality you want or afford. the Glashuette SeaQ is essentially an homage to the sub, and it's practically the same cost as a Rolex. It's a matter of iconic submariner style. As for collecting,(or personal goals) well, there are at least two types, Collectors that want to cover the style, or collectors that want to cover the brand. Brand collectors obviously won't be happy with an homage. but style collectors certainly can be satisfied with an homage.

[@CarlosHPena]

Yes, I will never buy one of those watches... Thank you for the advice.

[@Distorted-Vision]

What brand is that green watch roll ends "...ach". My eyes aren't what they once were.

[@petesjk]

As much as admire the Speedmaster, it doesn’t fit on my wrist. So much so that I don’t even think about it. Moonswatch? Didn’t even bother. I even have a bias for chronographs.

[@romeosly4341]

Wear what you love gents. I own a Patek 5811, 5231G white gold, a Royal Oak and a VC Overseas which i rarely ever wear. Instead i find myself wearing my Speedmaster, Tudor BB58 and Dayjust 41 all the time.

[@matthewkey8150]

I would say don't buy an homage if: (1) is an actual counterfeit; (2) is a 1:1 ripoff of the original in everything except the branding/trademark; (3) is an homage of a watch that costs less than $500 (yes they definitely exist); or (4) costs more than 10% of what the real deal would cost you.

[@fontyyy]

This is really simple. Write down the watch you really want. Now presuming you're a mile from either affording it or being able to get it, choose something you can buy now and wear that might "scratch that itch" that you can afford right now. If you said "Daytona" maybe it's a full on clomage, maybe a Seiko chronograph, maybe a Tudor Chrono, maybe a proper fake. Whatever, buy that, wear it. And now do all you can do to get the watch you really want. That's it.

[@Semper_Iratus]

Steinhart makes a wearable watch at an affordable price.

[@carycoller3140]

I LOVE homage watches. I have a bunch of them. Pagani Design is my go-to brand when I feel the itch to buy a new watch.

[@darrenhojnacki6636]

I agree on the homage watch to a degree. If the homage is 10% the price of the original and still well made I am good with it. I mean Baltany had a homage of VC 1921. The VC 1921 is what $30k or $40k

[@hub_s550]

I went Casioak and stainless steel band. I can't afford AP royal Oak. Either use that money to buy a house or get an AP. The house won 😊

[@beginningbourbon7385]

With Tissot, Hamilton, Longines and Gshock there is no reason to buy a fake “luxury” watch. So many great watches that watch hobbies respect from those brands. PRX, Field khaki, etc.

[@HLhere]

Sky dwellers are 42mm. A lot heftier than 40 or 41mm ones, and the gold skys are a big block of gold bar too.