Jeremy Kyle Investigates The Post Office Scandal | 31-Aug-23

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Jeremy Kyle Live at 7pm sees the straight-talking voice of the people take on the issues that really matter. Tonight Jeremy Kyle investigates the Horizon Post Office Scandal.

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@darrinmcneill534
@darrinmcneill534 5 ай бұрын
We need a campaign to jail the post office liars and compensate these people to the highest level immediately
@lebosisings
@lebosisings 5 ай бұрын
And get that witch to hand back the CBE she was awarded, give her what she really deserves!
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
One of the postmaster in court at her trial : “At the start of the trial on Tuesday last week (October 12), prosecutor Warwick Tatford said she admitted she had “cooked the books". But he said she alleged that she had hidden evidence of the disappearing monies to cover up what she claimed were thefts by staff colleagues. She then said the branch’s IT system had caused the account deficit and that she was not sufficiently competent to operate it.” Btw, she said she had a Degree in computer science.
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
Have you read the evidence given in court, who told you to make unfounded allegations ?
@danielcox9504
@danielcox9504 5 ай бұрын
​@@daveoliver5838all of those prosecuted were lies too and manipulated into admiting they did it to get a lesser sentence, wake up boy
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
@@danielcox9504 They had lawyers present, why didn’t they appeal, unless prosecution had evidence of even more serious wrong doings against these ?
@08BornAgain
@08BornAgain 5 ай бұрын
Paula Vennells claims to be truly sorry about what happened to these people. She's a liar, but on this occasion she's telling a half truth. She is sorry, but it's because she got found out, not because of the consequences of her lies on so many innocent people. Her and the rest of those involved in this scandal should go to prison.
@andrewcooney2387
@andrewcooney2387 5 ай бұрын
The upper crust in any country will never face justice, they view the people as nothing more than monkeys and perhaps they have a point
@paulinebentley7547
@paulinebentley7547 2 ай бұрын
sorry isnt good enough
@flipperth1
@flipperth1 5 ай бұрын
The Post Office Ltd needs to have its power to bring criminal prosecutions revoked. It’s shown that it cannot be trusted.
@Eric-qm5xw
@Eric-qm5xw 9 ай бұрын
Indicative of the rottenness of the system, utterly disgraceful.
@movesky6696
@movesky6696 5 ай бұрын
i.t broken down boss post office should be lock up for there mess
@claired6328
@claired6328 5 ай бұрын
Why has the post office bosses & auditors / investigators not been held accountable??? Why has the government still not brought criminal charges against both of these organisations!!! This has been 100% covered up, both the post office & IT Company knew there was bugs in the horizon system & yet the post office continued bringing criminal charges against people, despite the IT Company notifying them in writing that a second bug had been detected, bringing horizons shortcoming figures into dispute! (Internal Documents were discovered by panorama stating this) The post office knew it was the system but rather than admitting fault they got around the law because they were the sole investigators & prosecutors, by burying vital evidence that brought into question the reliability of there system as no one was holding them accountable!!! Prime example of why no organisation should be allowed to bring criminal cases to court regarding them personally, all criminal cases should be done by an impartial 3rd party investigation & prosecutors, ie this should have been a police investigation from day one & maybe this mess wouldn't of happened to begin with!!! Absolutely disgusting!!! I hope the government has learned from this & stripped the post office of all criminal investigation & prosecution rights!!! And also the question needs to be asked..... what happened to the hundreds of thousands of pounds the post office stole from these innocent people!!! Where did all the money go from the non existent shortfalls the system created that they made hundreds of people repay.... surely the post offices annual financial audits must have shown a massive increase in profits compared to profits prior to the system, post office bosses 100% knew the system was at fault, absolutely no way they didn't... where did all that money they stole from there employees go ...... bet its in the pockets of the very bosses that have covered this up over the past 20 odd years!!! Absolutely disgusting!!!
@kruger-3522
@kruger-3522 5 ай бұрын
Give them their money back with interest at least!!! Also those people that wrongly went to prison need compensating for their time spent in prison!!! This is totally disgusting
@ianswan1283
@ianswan1283 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@Dangerous_Brian
@Dangerous_Brian 5 ай бұрын
Every years wages + rises since they were investigated ! Pension reinstated + All pension contributions (max) and profits since investigation ! Compensation......say £180k each + a written apology ! Someone must be accountable for this and serve time (unfortunately this will be a scapegoat as large companies DO NOT receive correct punishment).
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
@@Dangerous_Brian Have you read the evidence these postmasters gave in court ?
@leskerr9446
@leskerr9446 5 ай бұрын
Any compensation should come from the salaries, bonuses and pensions of the top brass!@@Dangerous_Brian
@alanroper5412
@alanroper5412 5 ай бұрын
I watched the 1st episode on ITVx last night and was so wound up and angry I had to watch all episodes because I wouldn't have slept without knowing the outcome. What a set of b...... at the head office. I'm still furious now. What a great program it was.
@marksapollo
@marksapollo 9 ай бұрын
The CEO driving a bonus scheme for board members to work with the investigation, classic UK big business behaviour, greed above ALL else.
@Diana-lk6gx
@Diana-lk6gx 5 ай бұрын
This is beyond sickening. Well done to these justice warriors. Keep fighting and pay these people their money now. No more making them suffer. Awful stuff.
@any-car-will-do
@any-car-will-do 5 ай бұрын
This is absolutely disgraceful, the individuals responsible for this should be held accountable and get the same treatment as these post office workers that were innocent. I really feel for these individuals and their families.
@rachaelcox9700
@rachaelcox9700 5 ай бұрын
I think Paula Vennells should have her CBE revoked for her part
@barrybernstein9049
@barrybernstein9049 5 ай бұрын
Vennells should become a dictionary word meaning _______________________________________
@jennyg-uf1uo
@jennyg-uf1uo 5 ай бұрын
And prosecuted.
@1metuka
@1metuka 5 ай бұрын
Don't Fujitsu owe money for their faulty technology???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@chrishullah5000
@chrishullah5000 5 ай бұрын
Strip the CBE from Paula Vennells immediately. She's a disgrace.
@colindavidson3773
@colindavidson3773 5 ай бұрын
Why does no one mention Adam Crozier who was ceo of the post office and Royal Mail from 2003 - 2010 when a lot of people were being prosecuted he needs to be investigated urgently
@beniceffs
@beniceffs 5 ай бұрын
As a basic compensation for ALL who have been wrongly accused should be given £1000000 to start with. Those who have been imprisoned should get further £1000000 just to start with. BUT, in order to reduce something so outrageous happening again, those responsible need to be prosecuted and imprisoned. That includes the PM if he was aware of this. Who would that be? Blair? And Fujitsu needs to be sued. And school boy Sunak needs to get on with it.
@ashleywalsh6113
@ashleywalsh6113 5 ай бұрын
Who has all the money? If those who have been wrongly accused, were forced to 'repay' money, then these said payments are merely putting a plaster over the holes and some corrupt individuals have double money. Who has this money? Absolutely disgusting and shameful to be British.
@amcadam26
@amcadam26 5 ай бұрын
it went into the profits for the post office.
@Jack-fs2im
@Jack-fs2im 5 ай бұрын
Shocking SIR Ed Davey and Paula Venners CBE must be questioned.Surely the Post Office should lose its “Royal” king Charles patronage
@tah6243
@tah6243 9 ай бұрын
Compensation, how could they do that? Even we see the injustice to those poor people
@darrinmcneill534
@darrinmcneill534 5 ай бұрын
The post office owes them 700 million minimum a million each and a full multi broadcast apology to these people
@lesmartin8131
@lesmartin8131 5 ай бұрын
25 years in prison , for the head ones . All their properties seized then sold and the proceeds given to to those victims.
@craigwalker586
@craigwalker586 5 ай бұрын
Yeah my mum got accused of stealing 15k She wanted to kill her sen and that her mental health has been fucked I had to help bail my parents out with money I was earning It's fucking horrendous for sure
@graceli5145
@graceli5145 5 ай бұрын
Cannot believe this kind of scandal happened. How come it did not draw the public’s attention until today. Why no legal professionals in Britain help them in the past? No lawyers helped them won single one lawsuit?
@paul-hutt.3686
@paul-hutt.3686 9 ай бұрын
We were one of the first ( when I worked for the post office) and every Wednesday when ,even though I was only a clerk helped the boss do the weekly reports to send off. Very regularly the boss had to put money back out of his pocket. But being as there were only 3 employee's it makes you feel bad.
@bjambles1633
@bjambles1633 5 ай бұрын
How has Vennels still got her CBE? Not only must she be stripped of this 'honour' she and the PO boses who oversaw this whole debacle must pay bay all bonuses and also face criminal investgation.
@donjones5793
@donjones5793 5 ай бұрын
Paula vennells should be in bloody prison, never mind taking a bloody CBE off her
@darrinmcneill534
@darrinmcneill534 5 ай бұрын
Post office heads should be jailed
@notquiteoverthehill9576
@notquiteoverthehill9576 5 ай бұрын
Why not name the officials lawyers & judges who did this they should be held to account
@oldenglishsheepdogfun5960
@oldenglishsheepdogfun5960 5 ай бұрын
I ll feel really uncomfortable going into a post office now tbh
@flipperth1
@flipperth1 5 ай бұрын
Understandable - but most people running post offices are still the same sort of people that were affected by this scandal. They’re self employed individuals - they are not stakeholders in Post Office Ltd who are the villains of the piece. The subpostmasters and subpostmistresses need our support more than ever and their shops and livelihoods shouldn’t be boycotted.
@sudenims5235
@sudenims5235 5 ай бұрын
Watched the tv series on this today. Feel so sad for those upstanding decent British people whose lives were so cruelly torn apart by some elitist (appears narcissistic- they were right and everyone else wrong and they weren’t listening to anything else or anyone) arrogant vile people. not only that people were taken to court for something they didn’t do but that many people had to give the P.O. their own money. Meaning the thief was the P.O. not their employees. Appalling.
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
Ah, but some admitted to stealing post office money! In one case when post office auditors arrived at the post office and found post office bags with money missing, the postmaster involved phoned his relatives to bring back the post-office money they taken home earlier ! Check it out, read the transcript of court proceedings.
@barkinstarfish
@barkinstarfish 5 ай бұрын
@@daveoliver5838well done you for being the only person to try to dilute what theses poor innocent people have been through.
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
@@barkinstarfish Do you not want me post what was actually said in the court, it’s all in public domain ? Here’s some text from one of the cases where a postmistress was convicted of stealing £74,609 over three years. “At the start of the trial on Tuesday last week (October 12), prosecutor Warwick Tatford said she admitted she had “cooked the books". But he said she alleged that she had hidden evidence of the disappearing monies to cover up what she claimed were thefts by staff colleagues. She then said the branch’s IT system had caused the account deficit and that she was not sufficiently competent to operate it. Postmistress involved pleaded guilty to four offences of false accounting. She will be sentenced on November 11.” Btw, she said she had a degree in computer science when she took over the post office.
@MO_91185c
@MO_91185c 5 ай бұрын
Still doesn't excuse what the Post Office did ie. lying about the number of people experiencing the same problems (you're the only one!), Knowing that the computers could be manipulated from outside (if the t.v. programme is to be believed), numerous previously honest post masters of years standing, suddenly turning into mega villains stealing thousands of pounds in one go as against one mega villain.
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
@@MO_91185c Don’t know where you get your info from. Have you read the transcript of the evidence these postmasters gave in court which resulted in their conviction ? All, hundreds of them, entered a plea of guilty to charges of theft or false accounting or fraud ! Mismanagement of personnel, postmasters, at the post office is a different issue.
@andyb2706
@andyb2706 5 ай бұрын
Hang on, the inquiry was a statutory inquiry which means people are compelled to give evidence, so why where the executives of the Post Office given a bonus for co-operating!?
@stevejacobs9320
@stevejacobs9320 5 ай бұрын
It just goes to show how incompetent and corrupt the post office and the justice system is. All of these postmasters should be given at least £100k interim payments immediately as this is the least they deserve from this obscene behavior, i'm sure most will deserve more when they are fully compensated. As for all those complicite in this evil, they should be held fully accountable and should be punished to the same degree their actions caused.
@Miss_sassyxx
@Miss_sassyxx 5 ай бұрын
She need to pay back her golden hand shake and if she can’t Jail. The judges needs to be accountable how stupid are they to think after a new computer system goes in over 700 postmasters become thieves. How thick are they
@lewismacdonald1516
@lewismacdonald1516 9 ай бұрын
The judiciary specifically the judges, lawyers and barristers involved should be hanging their heads in shame, they knew the Post Office had made an absolute sham of the enquiry, they disregarded disclosure policy, which if it had been a conventional crown/police enquiry would have been robustly enforced. They allowed decent people to go to jail with knowledge of the problems of Horizon. The judiciary has no business self regulating after this, why are people not furious and demanding reform?
@jaxcoss5790
@jaxcoss5790 5 ай бұрын
Spot on!
@claired6328
@claired6328 5 ай бұрын
Well said! No organisations other than the police should be allowed to be the only investigators right up to court, how can it ever be an impartial, unbiase investigation to potentially investigate there own failures? From day one investigates of theft etc which could lead to a court case & criminal record should be handled by the police & a forensic accountant, which would of been an impartial party, who would of clearly seen from day one that it was the post office themselves at fault & not the thousands of people they victimised & bullied!!! Right now I hope no court in the uk is still hearing any cases investigated & brought to them by the post office themselves, this power should be permanently stripped from the post office & all other organisations that currently have it!!!
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
@@claired6328 Have you read the evidence given in court ? “At the start of the trial on Tuesday last week (October 12), prosecutor Warwick Tatford said she admitted she had “cooked the books". But he said she alleged that she had hidden evidence of the disappearing monies to cover up what she claimed were thefts by staff colleagues. She then said the branch’s IT system had caused the account deficit and that she was not sufficiently competent to operate it.” Btw, she was found convicted by court of stealing £74,000+ over a 3-year period.
@tanjee2698
@tanjee2698 5 ай бұрын
The issue is, when I'm not mistaken, that it started at magistrates (small claims) court, the rules for presenting evidence are different and during that period big companies can sit it out and strategically show or omit evidence as such. It should have never remained as a 'drips and draps cases' at the beginning... It had to go to crown, then high court
@lewismacdonald1516
@lewismacdonald1516 5 ай бұрын
@@tanjee2698 good point as many of them would have been for smaller amount s- but at the same time magistrates are well known for binning cases of first offenders if there is absolutely any doubt at all, would be interesting to know actually what the ratio was of convictions in terms of magistrates courts or above.
@Soulboy63
@Soulboy63 5 ай бұрын
Just watched Mr Bates on ITV X ... Excellent .
@marksapollo
@marksapollo 9 ай бұрын
The Post Office should also be stripped of its Royal status.
@ogcpw4746
@ogcpw4746 9 ай бұрын
What royal status?
@marksapollo
@marksapollo 9 ай бұрын
@@ogcpw4746 I was thinking of the Royal Mail, they run the Post Offices I thought?
@claired6328
@claired6328 5 ай бұрын
There must be some association as the Queen was listed on the court cases as the claimant
@leroygoldbridge8874
@leroygoldbridge8874 5 ай бұрын
Should lose their right to prosecution
@craigwalker586
@craigwalker586 5 ай бұрын
My mum is one of them It's been horrendous through the years it's been going on
@joanneramsden1514
@joanneramsden1514 7 күн бұрын
Sorry she has had to go through this horrendous ordeal and still fighting for justice. I know exactly how you feel. My parents and grandparents owned a post office for over 47 years between them. Hopefully we will get to the end x
@kingspunkbubble
@kingspunkbubble 5 ай бұрын
The Law is a curious net that catches all the little fish and sets the large ones free.
@Alex-yu3wg
@Alex-yu3wg 5 ай бұрын
The VERY BIG question NOT being asked is, who and at what level within the Post Office KNEW the computer system was at fault. And at what stage did they know whilst prosection were going on.
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
Ah, but some of the ones found guilty later admitted to stealing!
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
@@Cader-ce6bv This is what one of the postmasters told the court at her trial : “At the start of the trial on Tuesday last week (October 12), prosecutor Warwick Tatford said she admitted she had “cooked the books". But he said she alleged that she had hidden evidence of the disappearing monies to cover up what she claimed were thefts by staff colleagues. She then said the branch’s IT system had caused the account deficit and that she was not sufficiently competent to operate it.” Btw, she said she had a Degree in computer science.
@tah6243
@tah6243 9 ай бұрын
You have our support from NZ
@annaheeldawes8608
@annaheeldawes8608 5 ай бұрын
They swallowed the shortfall payments into their own profits, but paying these victims back the Post Office are getting government to help pay it back. Government have agreed to this, Are you kidding me?
@user-qx3eb2jx1p
@user-qx3eb2jx1p 5 ай бұрын
The government owes this woman 20 years of lost income . atleast.
@stephenhoneyman9743
@stephenhoneyman9743 5 ай бұрын
Shame on the government for sitting in this for so long. They need to be held to account too
@lunaskye621
@lunaskye621 5 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t know whether the government will do anything. There is no discussion of prosecutions despite it being evident that criminal activity was done. I wonder how much MPs were paid to stay silent.
@DK-dq8bu
@DK-dq8bu 5 ай бұрын
Why are those responsible for this still walking free 😡😡😡😡
@annettewalter2273
@annettewalter2273 4 ай бұрын
It’s not compensation you are owed this money, it is yours. Compensation should follow.
@samuelburleigh1895
@samuelburleigh1895 5 ай бұрын
Is the Horizon computer company the same type of outfit we are entrusting our elections to. No worries about A.I.!
@debradavitt5457
@debradavitt5457 9 ай бұрын
They all need a FULL PARDON FROM KING NOE N COMPENSATION 😢
@davidspear9790
@davidspear9790 5 ай бұрын
A full pardon is all well and good, but these things have a tendency to linger around on databases and will almost certainly show up on an enhanced CRC check and therefore reduce opportunities for future employment. All records of the case should be expunged permanently from all databases if the pardon is a full one.
@robertnickson8781
@robertnickson8781 5 ай бұрын
Money should be taken off the company and people in charge of the company. The people who are in charge of the Post Office should be fired and fined.
@robertnickson8781
@robertnickson8781 5 ай бұрын
You can question a person how do you question a computer 💻. That’s why the government wants computers to run everything. Then politicians can sit back and get paid.
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
Of course you can easily question a computer, It logs every piece of data that is put into the system, time, date, location of terminal which can easily be examined. Those involved and accused were found to be putting in incorrect numbers. There are 11,000 terminals hooked on to the same Horizon computer system, none of the other users reported any problems. Something odd here ?
@Cunning.Stunt7
@Cunning.Stunt7 5 ай бұрын
​@@daveoliver5838you missed the point entirely... AI will be the argument to take human positions, in the very near future...
@tonyfield2339
@tonyfield2339 5 ай бұрын
if the post office are using the same system to audit themselves and hand their accounts in then wont they be wrong and nobody has checked them.
@priscillawatson7049
@priscillawatson7049 5 ай бұрын
SACK THEM! HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT ON THIS FAILING COMPUTER SYSTEM? get the money back! the system was not ready to be used It's UNACEPTABLE! all this has taken so long to be discussed, and STILL WAITING to be sorted, people compensated, people's money returned! what a scandal!
@andrewpaterson5192
@andrewpaterson5192 5 ай бұрын
Why did you not have the Chairman , the CEO, the legal counsel of the Post Office, the Sub postmasters group, Fujitsu, on the program so we can see their faces? Are they hiding? What from?
@edmundpotrzeba6094
@edmundpotrzeba6094 5 ай бұрын
I respect you for giving light to this program I just wish you didn’t try and hurry things along by interrupting the people you’d asked to come onto the program .
@sawneybean8011
@sawneybean8011 4 ай бұрын
Annoying and unnecessary interruptions
@amcadam26
@amcadam26 5 ай бұрын
this highlights the massive problem with the "justice" system. Unless you have buckets of cash, you can't win. Even if it's obvious you're innocent, the big guy will always win. the system is beyond broken. this is much bigger than just the post office. They got away with this for long due to how broken everything is. the mere fact that a judge can ask them to hand over documents and they can say no, is all you need to know.
@daveoliver5838
@daveoliver5838 5 ай бұрын
There’s more to this, read the evidence given in court. They were found guilty of stealing money, many admitted to using post office cash to support their groceries business. Why has it come up now, something doesn’t add up ?
@josephberrie9550
@josephberrie9550 5 ай бұрын
the so called legal system makes the civil servants we have look highly efficient in comparison
@Soulboy63
@Soulboy63 5 ай бұрын
How were tthey convicted without evidence ?? Did their defence noy pick up on this
@davidspear9790
@davidspear9790 5 ай бұрын
The post office don't need to provide evidence to bring a court case. They can bypass the CPS system.
@martynashwood881
@martynashwood881 5 ай бұрын
What defence their Barristers just told them to plead to a lesser offence of false accounting to avoid jail time, it didn't always work, some were even interviewed without a solicitor present.
@glennwhite1534
@glennwhite1534 5 ай бұрын
Makes you laugh. All branches of the media have known about this for years. But have ignored it. Now there all on the bandwagon.
@razzo8525
@razzo8525 28 күн бұрын
Sorry Nicky this is the first time i have seen this, Its Beautiful to see that you are able to have enough sanity after what those Bastards put you through, Heres the bigest HUG in the World HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG XX Razzo
@texasslingleadsomtingwong8751
@texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 5 ай бұрын
Holy smokes ! Im near speechless at the magnitude of corruption and incompetence.
@julienewsome7471
@julienewsome7471 5 ай бұрын
Poor people that took their own lives
@dsmhiggins67
@dsmhiggins67 5 ай бұрын
When I think "post office" I automatically think "****s". When I see "Fujitsu" I think "bunch of criminals".
@strings555
@strings555 5 ай бұрын
Is this what big ' business' has come to? Employees having to be bribed with bonuses to tell the truth?? Remember the RBS CEO leaving with an enormous bonus having driven the bank to the point of collapse? Where is decency, honesty and morality? Under a huge pile of (mostly tax payers) money somewhere off shore, no?
@annettewalter2273
@annettewalter2273 4 ай бұрын
We have finally got the programme here in Australia and it’s mind boggling. Hard to comprehend that these people desperately trying to defend their computer programme and discarding people like bits of scrap on the way. They showed absolutely no compunction about destroying these lives. They need to have all their assets sold and be made bankrupt to see how these poor people felt. Difficult to get your head around.
@jgibbs651
@jgibbs651 5 ай бұрын
Lord Arbuthnott is one of the good guys.
@yutakago1736
@yutakago1736 7 ай бұрын
The miscarriage of justice could be avoided if the judges have seek IT experts opinion before deciding whether the Post Office management accusation are valid. I am in the software industry since year 2000 and there are no such thing as 100% perfect system. Especially when the system need to be used by human and the hardware reliability are not 100% fault tolerance. I have developed and maintain system more complex than the Fujitsu Horizon IT system. Many error can be cause by data entry or failure in hardware like network or hard disk. In order for any system to be robust, there should be a build in error recovery system to allow correction of wrong data. Operator can report to their supervisor about the error. The supervisor validate the operator error report. Then the supervisor key in the correct data and send the change request for Manager to approve the data correction. All transactions including error recovery are in system log files for auditors to investigate for any discrepancy.
@amcadam26
@amcadam26 5 ай бұрын
Fujitsu most likely kept telling the post office everything was fine, while secretly "fixing" issues behind the scenes. This is what happens when large organisations offload important work to third party companies.
@joanneramsden1514
@joanneramsden1514 7 күн бұрын
My parents owned a subpost office for 22 years and my grandparents before them for 25 years. Horizon destroyed our family. We were unable to sell the business. Even having it up for sale for 5 years. The stress gave my father a heart attack in 2009 . The post office, government, management have a lot to answer for. Generations of people have lost their livelihood, pensions, homes and family members and it has still not been resolved 20 years on.
@michaeljenkinson7099
@michaeljenkinson7099 5 ай бұрын
Most of us that have worked with PCs know that they have a way of allowing remote access, to either switch it on or off. This is mostly used by help systems.
@davidspear9790
@davidspear9790 5 ай бұрын
Given that the post office can police themselves with no interference from outside, it sounds like a collaboration between the post office and Fujitsu to make the software deliberately buggy in order to make a quick buck.
@debradavitt5457
@debradavitt5457 9 ай бұрын
SPATT ON! FEK THAT, EVEN REMEMBER IN NEWBURYX SUNNY STORE WAS BLIGHTED BY THUS CRAP , 😢
@irenepwheeldon
@irenepwheeldon 5 ай бұрын
These people were sent to the slaughter house by the Government, the Post Office, Fujitsu and our Courts of Law. They knew there was a problem and they covered it up. They put all the onus and blame on innocent postmasters, they destroyed all these peoples lives for their own benefits. The Government are blaming the Post Office who are blaming Fujitsu who are blaming the Government etc. etc. etc. They are all to blame for this and the cover up. None have been held accountable. None have been in court. None have paid the remunerations these innocent people deserve. The courts and legal system in this case have been appalling. No evidence of guilt was given, yet they the victims were charged and tried. What an horrendous situation these victims were in, is awful to comprehend. 25 years is to long time for this scandal to have been going on for, let us see it end now, all parties involved should be held accountable and prosecuted asap.
@martynashwood881
@martynashwood881 5 ай бұрын
Just a thought did any one working in crown post offices ever get done for false accounting or theft?
@springtime8029
@springtime8029 5 ай бұрын
Ultimate bullying sue the post office for unsafe conviction
@dannywalsh840
@dannywalsh840 5 ай бұрын
This doesn’t add up surly that was unlawful inprisonment?
@anthonywilson336
@anthonywilson336 5 ай бұрын
How come there where only losses?,very suspicious!!
@user-qx3eb2jx1p
@user-qx3eb2jx1p 5 ай бұрын
This country is a joke . Honestly is . Over 20 years to get to this .
@NicoleeLV
@NicoleeLV 5 ай бұрын
This story is fascinating. I just purchased Nick’s book on audio for my commute. For a government agency to do this to their own people and the company to be negligent in the software development boggles my mind. In America, we have the Presidential pardon. Is there an equivalent that all these people can be granted?
@christinestanding
@christinestanding 5 ай бұрын
they dont want a pardon because they've done nothing wrong.
@NicoleeLV
@NicoleeLV 5 ай бұрын
@chrisinetanding a pardon wipes out the conviction.
@Soulboy63
@Soulboy63 5 ай бұрын
Vennells knew everything ,woman of the cloth lining her pockets , she needs to pay. This & Prince Andrew news , Thousands inmocent childrewn dying in West Bank etc , this country disgusts me often now
@lina9722
@lina9722 5 ай бұрын
Some great finds in this video! Well done 👍🏼
@ianrobinson6788
@ianrobinson6788 5 ай бұрын
Is it correct that Ernst & Young were the auditors?
@raljix1566
@raljix1566 5 ай бұрын
This unbelievable - I'll never trust this brand again - This should trigger national outage
@iamanomas
@iamanomas 5 ай бұрын
That compensation should be forwarded to their immediate families.
@NoraMoran-wl2bw
@NoraMoran-wl2bw 5 ай бұрын
Post office was involved me going to Holloway prison back in 2012
@No2Censoring
@No2Censoring 5 ай бұрын
The post office have acted way outside of their remit acting like they are judge and jury
@edmundpotrzeba6094
@edmundpotrzeba6094 5 ай бұрын
Nickola made me tearful 🥲 we need names and faces of all the people who caused her this misery. Institutional corruption at its worse . Everyone involved post office , government etc had no problem investigation these post offices and prosecuting them so let’s now put the same effort into uncovering who was involved in the corruption and make them accountable. I personally wont be happy until I see people in prison whatever their position . Ps let’s not forget the computer company who must have known there was a problem with the system .youv no idea how furious it makes me listening to these victims tell their stories.
@ArjunGhag-ix7te
@ArjunGhag-ix7te 4 ай бұрын
Jez on 🔥 tip top reporting
@paulslater9061
@paulslater9061 5 ай бұрын
Dishonesty from the post office as well who would have guessed that
@user-qx3eb2jx1p
@user-qx3eb2jx1p 5 ай бұрын
9 grand ? should be 10x that . ATLEAST
@Nick-vl7df
@Nick-vl7df 5 ай бұрын
Imagine if these postmasters or postmistresses had recorded the phone calls and interviews.
@HPB1776
@HPB1776 5 ай бұрын
These people need millions in compensation each for having their whole lives ruined although no amount of money will be enough. Absolutely disgusting. I hope to see criminal prosecutions of those who knew what was goingvon and helped to cover it up. £600,000 compensation is an absolute insult!
@truth-hurts
@truth-hurts 5 ай бұрын
Alan Bates should be given a seat in the House of Lords, there are too many cronies in there it's time for real (Honest) people to have a voice! if there's anyone out there who could start a petition for this please go for it
@davidspear9790
@davidspear9790 5 ай бұрын
He was awarded a CBE but turned it down because he didn't feel it was appropriate while the fight was still ongoing.
@jumperontheline
@jumperontheline 5 ай бұрын
The Mirror have a petition for him to get CBE or knighthood. You can sign it on 38 Degrees.
@jumperontheline
@jumperontheline 5 ай бұрын
​@@davidspear9790He was offered an OBE, but turned it down. He said it would be a slap in the face to everyone still suffering, and he couldn't accept it until Paula V returned her CBE. Now that she has done that, he should be free to accept an honour; the Mirror have a petition for him to get CBE or knighthood.
@HPB1776
@HPB1776 5 ай бұрын
I would campaign for him to be in the House of Lords for sure. We have never been in greater need of integrity in power. We'll done to him for refusing one of these ridiculous honours, I would tell them to Foxtrot Oscar too. What an inspirational man !
@arnoldmeiring7710
@arnoldmeiring7710 5 ай бұрын
Where are you Mr KING of England - eating eggs and bacon in your palace?
@CL2005
@CL2005 5 ай бұрын
Read this: Commenting on the compensation, Read said: "Our efforts to rectify the wrongs of the past include paying full and fair compensation supported by our shareholder, the UK Government'' That's right folks, taxpayers will be the ones paying compensation. These dogs need their arses jailed and financially penalised, personally.
@flipperth1
@flipperth1 5 ай бұрын
Indeed - but they haven’t got the billions that it’s going to cost. I do think they should be prosecuted and jailed where appropriate.
@CL2005
@CL2005 5 ай бұрын
@flipperth1 it won't be billions, but agree. In the very least they must be forced to give back the portion of their bonuses that were awarded based on their 'performance' in the enquiry. But really they should be giving back those bonuses in full over whatever period it turns out to be. That would be a start.
@anufajemisin4348
@anufajemisin4348 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching the ITV drama based on the Post Office scandal as well as listening to stories from various victims and it just gets grimmer and grimmer every time I listen. What those poor people went through is absolutely unimaginable!!! I just feel so sad for them all. I really hope and pray that they all get recompensed 1000 fold because that’s the very least they deserve quite frankly. The management who accused the Post Office post masters of theft, when they’d clearly NOT stolen a penny are just evil as far as I’m concerned. The word corporate psychopaths springs to mind when I think about the behaviour management demonstrated. An awful lot of questions need to be answered here, specifically why Horizon was allowed to exist at all when the software was obviously faulty. I simply have so much to say I honestly can’t tell you. Justice needs to be served for sure. These bosses need to face exactly the same justice their post master’s Served. Whether or not that will actually happen remains to be seen. I so desperately want a positive outcome for this horrendous situation. I’m not holding out much hope right now but I await the unfolding of this story. Let’s just wait and see what happens hey?!!
@joanneramsden1514
@joanneramsden1514 7 күн бұрын
Nichola is absolutely right. What the post office say they will do and what they actually do are two different things
@barkinstarfish
@barkinstarfish 5 ай бұрын
Another Royal scandal. Pun intended.
@Cunning.Stunt7
@Cunning.Stunt7 5 ай бұрын
Post Office, got away with this corruption, because of becoming a LTD company, since the late 1980's Under the Royal Mail "blanket" Like Parcel Force... a CEO independently for each Mail delivery branch... Royal Mail can simply say, nowt to do with us... you need to go talk to xxxx on floor xxxx in that direction 👉👇👈👆👉☝️ mmmkay bai! 🖐
@barrycox8468
@barrycox8468 4 ай бұрын
When the post office was civil service. Before 1969 the system will was different and the scandal would NEVER have happened
@ahairyhaggis1449
@ahairyhaggis1449 5 ай бұрын
Sad day when this 🔔 end is investigating anything
@Jane-rc2rk
@Jane-rc2rk 5 ай бұрын
Either the country of my childhood didn’t ever exist … always a possiblity … or the country has become increasingly corrupt; I suspect the latter.
@alanwilliams4835
@alanwilliams4835 4 ай бұрын
Post office f…ked up you pay min of 2 million each
@barrycox8468
@barrycox8468 4 ай бұрын
I n the old days everything was done manually no computers get my point
@paulslater9061
@paulslater9061 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like destroying evidence to me rather than auditing
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