Jeremy Roenick rips Mike Milbury over Ovechkin vs. Crosby

Jeremy Roenick debates Mike Milbury on Ovechkin vs. Crosby. Milbury shows his bias and gets blasted for it.

[@dylantinkey8401]

Crosby=quarterback Ovechkin=wide receiver Can't compare them they specialize in different categories

[@BobbyT.]

Totally agree

[@domwings4329]

Dylan Tinkey Ovechkin=QB Crosby=Reciever

[@cigsbutt]

Like I already stated,I guess Jeremy is impressed with Ovi's 200 centimeter game.The only time Ovi makes it to his own blue line is for the singing of the National anthem.

[@ExxylcrothEagle]

but who has more touchdown rings though??? brady !!! duuuh

[@allenmynatt9571]

@@domwings4329 incorrect

[@almo8989]

I hate it when they use cups as a measure for comparing players. It's a team sport.

[@devincostain5287]

Nathan C Yeah, by that logic Matt Cullen is as good as Crosby. And that Phil Housley is one of the worst players ever.

[@dzanier]

Not to mention Marcel Dionne, Brad Park, Jean Ratelle, Peter Stastny and many more.

[@tempfan5547]

Nathan C milbury is an idiot but i agree with him here. now if ur talking about who u rather watch? u have the right to ur own opinion but if u were the GM and have to chose between those 2 u gotta chose crosby. theres a reason why other players/coaches vote for crosby as no1 player year after year. is it unfair to judge a player by cups won? of course but then again thats life. u have to partly be judged by that factor as the ultimate goal of a franchise is to win the cups. thats what hockey is all about. with the partity nowadays and when a player is the captain taking the biggest part of the cap u are supposed to be the biggest factor in ur teams results. and the reason why a guy like crosby is considered better is because he makes his teamates better, he plays more responsibly. u would say the same if we judged by cups if ovechkin did win 2 cup and crosby none. funny how i know ur a pro-ovechkin based or ur comment. it has more to do with it

[@thomasparker5420]

Three cups for Crosby now!

[@wickerman26]

Crosby is the better overall player, Ovie is the better goal scorer.

[@Kenevin]

"I couldn't hear what Jeremy said 'cause I had my two stanley cup rings plugging my ears" - Patrick Roy.

[@rwickberg]

I don't think Milbury showed a bias here, they asked him who could compare to Ovechkin, and he said Crosby. Statistically, that's true. I also think he defended his choice quite well, which Roenick as much as condeded. Whatever you think of Milbury, I think it's the original poster who's showing a bias here. And by the way, Milbury's choice is looking pretty good tonight, after Crosby scored the goal that gave Canada the gold, isn't it?

[@peacock427]

I'd like to see crosby and ovechkin switch teams, straight up, and see who goes where. that would be an all time nhl epic trade

[@surudog4929]

Crosby will start crying like a pussy.

[@andyrockshalo]

@@surudog4929 😂

[@BobbyT.]

1 year later he called Crosby a punk for getting a Concussion.

[@BobbyT.]

Crosby, 2 time stanley cup champion and Conn Smythe winner.

[@tommyettinger1353]

Milburys still a douche and Crosby doesn't care what he thinks, milbury made a comment on his concussion and Sid didn't accept his apology which I'm happy he didn't

[@kissarmy21]

Roenick is right, if you want a player to watch you pick Ovechkin, if you want a player to win you pick Crosby

[@Connor8609]

If there was a draft with both of them in it and you could go back knowing what we know now, you'd be an absolute fool to pick Ovechkin. Crosby is the person to build a franchise around.

[@gbrendel]

Is it really a shock that one of the most obnoxious former players likes the most obnoxious current player? Not at all. It's called modesty and neither of them have any. Sure Crosby and Ovechkin are both awesome players, but if I pick one to watch it's Crosby. He doesn't gloat, show off, or act like an animal.

[@pbmdh]

Ovechkin is a one trick pony, not even close to captain material. At least Crosby plays offense, defense ans participates on the penalty kill. Ovechkin only plays with one side of the ice. And for the record I don't like either player much.

[@bern1417]

weree2 First off genius Crosby played in almost as many games during the 2013-14 reg season, Olympics, and playoffs - around 100 total- as he did from the 2010-11 season through the 2013 season.. So I guess he's supposed to be super human huh? Surely he couldn't have been tired during this past post-season considering his anemic coach's only in game adjustment is to double shift him. Lets also not forget that Crosby skated most of that 1st series with Stempniak and Gibbons on his wing. Ya I know Crosby isn't that great at offense yet he's won 2 Art Ross, 2 Hart - maybe 2, 1 for sure-, 1 Rocket Richard, and was the only player during the 2013-14 season to put up 100 points.. Don't be dumb kid!!! BTW it's Toews not Toewes...

[@jimmiefrost4845]

pbmdh ovie can score and hit. cindy is a pussy, and doesnt show up for playoffs

[@MuffyCakeMan]

Millbury is a goof

[@gcdcjccc]

as great as Ovechkin is, if i'm starting a team Crosby is the guy. he's just more all-round

[@TheScarda72]

(12 years later) Has your opinion changed? Curious.

[@gcdcjccc]

@@TheScarda72 Not at all..

[@96Z24]

BTW, Roenick is a class act. I've met him before and he was one of the coolest guys I've met in the NHL, and I've met many more before.

[@joshkirsch9139]

Ovi is more entertaining. Sid is more reliable

[@brodypurcell8788]

I hate when anyone compares stanley cup wins in hockey. It isnt the same as basketball where their is more individual plays . & how one players in basketball can change your team from dead last to number 1. No, hockey is much more a team with depth & works hard. its impossible to compare stanley cup wins between players.

[@cityofchamps66]

who's resume would you rather have?? Crosby in a heartbeat

[@brodypurcell8788]

cityofchamps66 Well ofcourse! Mostly because his work ethic. Right? That is why he is the best. But If ovi, put in as much work & had as much passion he could be better than crosby in my personally opinion. Ovi is stronger faster, & had a better shot. If he was as decicated as crosby , he could be a better player. Crosby is a better playmaker than ovi, but ovi can be a much better goal scorer.

[@cityofchamps66]

***** if IFS and BUTS were candy and nuts we'd all have a wonderful Christmas-it because of what Crosby has done-not because of what Ovi may or may not have done

[@brodypurcell8788]

cityofchamps66 It isnt really ifs or buts. Ovi has proved many times he is an elite player. He has done what sidney has done, the problem is his mind set. Ovi has no passion. Dont get me wrong crosby is a great player, but why does everyone pick him over ovi? Cause of Sid's work ethic. If you were to go back 5 years. When ovi had passion, He was the best player in the NHL at the time. It is hard to choose one or the other. Because crosby has a good mind set. But seeing what ovi has done, & can do whenever he feels like it. Its insane, If he gets his spark back . Id pick him over Crosby .

[@bobwilson5162]

+Jimmy Stewson he's not gonna get his spark back he's past his prime and in true Ovie fashion they are going out in the 2nd round. It's not impossible to compare Stanley cup wins when we are talking about "elite" players. Their one purpose on the team is to lead their team to the cup. Ovie cannot perform under that pressure. He is one dimensional and scores PP goals all season to get to 50 with very few assists. He is and remains a marketing fan boy produced by the Washington management. I don't care how many goals he scores. There's apparently way more to the game which everyone can agree to.

[@GamerzDailyFix]

Wtf 2010? I remember this like it was yesterday. Damn times just flew by eh...

[@surudog4929]

I am lost. Winning a Stanley cup is a team event - owners, coaches, players, health and a bit of luck. Ovi did win eventually, but the guy is saying, Crosby is some guy bigger/better than Ovi is a joke. If winning Stanley cup make your bigger/better and somehow gives your outsized brownie points ..go to hell. Ovi is GOAT, period.

[@WildlifeTshirts]

You have to remember Mike is a Canadian & JR is an American.

[@foragingfleur]

they're both American

[@pistolpete8231]

Both American. Who are the 3 idiots who liked your comment??

[@chrome180]

I thought Jeremy was going to get really pissed when Mike interrupted him abruptly, but he handled it well.

[@TheoBrixtonTheKid]

Are you sure about that? In the 08-09 season the Capitals had a better overall record at the end of the season. If the team around Crosby looked better it's because Crosby makes everyone around them a better player. Don't get me wrong Ovechkin is a top player but he's not the type of playmaker that Crosby is. You say it's obvious that they were better simply because they played better in the playoffs. Any hockey fan knows the playoffs are a different breed.

[@wilboy117]

@WahooWa1819 Where was Ovechkin in the 2010 olympics? Floating?

[@khuddle]

Roenick is right when he says OV is by far and away the more exciting player.

[@ThaWizerMan]

Pittsburgh won the Stanley Cup and Canada won the gold medal. If we switched Crosby to team Russia and Ovechkin to Pittsburgh nobody knows who would perform better. Would Pittsburgh still win the cup? Would Washington? Realistically all we can do is evaluate their skill-set's and right now Crosby is the better two-way player and point-getter while Ovechkin is superior at playing with physicality and scoring goals. As far as who I would want on my team? Well that would depend on my roster and system more than anything.

[@Wad7915]

Both of'em are amazing players, great talents. But they are different - it's evident, isn't it. As a Russian I am a fan of Ovechkin - but this doesn't mean I underestimate Crosby. Olympic champion, Stanley Cup winner, true leader of his team - and I must admit, Canada just destroyed Russia lately. Russia has great talents, Canada has both talents and system

[@Zlatanimilan]

@hockeypark isnt the stanley cup the one that tops all awards?

[@maccas14]

Caps beat the Pens 4 times out of 4 this season, with Ovechkin starring in every single game. I'm not saying that is the only part of my argument, but for me it says a lot.

[@RandyDandy114]

A lot of the players from Pittsburgh have been selected for the Olympics. Stronger team, hands down. Can't compare team championships between the two. Both players are skilled at what they do: Sid at play-making and Ovi at physicality and goals.

[@milkandmeat]

@Raphinater what defensive statistics show that?

[@Bonediggidy12]

any argument about 2 INDIVIDUAL players and who's better always ends up with someone that isn't as confident as the other saying, "what about the championship (stanley cup)" that is a team accomplishment. same thing with the LeBron James vs Kobe vs Jordan argument. its not viable

[@Bonediggidy12]

backstrom plays for the team still, Semin expressed his anger for being traded. Ovi is Semin's best friend. Saying Ovi is selfish is wrong in every way. He 1. has expressed his desire to win over anything and 2. has made many sacrifices to decrease his scoring in order to make the team better. my point about the stanley cup doesn't make you better because now you're saying someone like Brandon Saad of the Blackhawks is a better individual player that Ovechkin cause he has a cup? please say yes and make me laugh

[@beebee892]

Milbury or NBC sports in general sucks crosby got pierre drooling over him to

[@Jobother]

BosoxnationI972 i think you have a little bit wrong there. in no way did "boudreau's system stress team defense" it was almost the exact opposite! boudreau was successful because he let all of the Offensive talent just run wild. i love ovechkin (look at my profile pic) but i have to agree that he doesn't have leadership qualities and isn't the type of player to build a team around. i sees him as more comparable to kane because he is a one dimensional bag of tricks winger which look great on the highlight reel. i think crosby is more like toews because of work ethic etc... another thing about leadership, its probably really really difficult to be a leader on a team when you don't even speak the native language of that country. its similar to crosby trying to be a leader in the KHL, language barrier.

[@bigdyl2418]

James cage ... your totally right on this one..... Pelton needs to learn the game before commenting.... any one who played competitively knows if a team has two number one centers the opposing team can only shut down one of them with their best defensive unit leaving the other #1 center to go out against lesser defenders....Therefore if you shut down Crosby s line them malkins line will score and if you shut down malkins line then Crosby s line will score..teams often divide up their best shutdown guys from one until to 2 units when playing pitsburg. weakening the opponents defense and allowing them to get more points then without each other ps they do play together on the pp

[@iwombo]

@Sinco1967 Did you copy/paste a Wikipedia page or something? Reciting somebody's numbers when they were a kid isn't the way to prove their NHL prowess currently (which admittedly was very impressive before he was injured), especially playoff prowess.

[@Iamyourboo2]

It's impossible at this point to pretend Ovechkin is a better player. Before you could look at regular season stats and have something to argue with, but as of now it's not even close. Stamkos is #2 in the league and you can start talking about him instead. I like Ovechkin but he's not going to be able to play a complete defensive game and maintain his scoring stats.

[@WanysWorld]

Apparently, they both took the opposite side of this argument in the last day or two....pick a guy and stick with him for crying out loud! Either way, they are both great players with unique skill sets. We need to discover another planet that plays hockey so these guys can be on the same team for once!

[@hockeyyismylife]

as well thought out as that sentence was, a cup doesn't measure individual talent. especially when you take into account that crosby was invisible in the last two rounds of the playoffs where they won the cup. one of them was league mvp and one of them is made of glass.

[@SlipSlydinLydin]

People allow their personal feelings about Milbury to cloud their opinion of what he says. His point about Ovechkin being more fun to watch, but Crosby being a better leader is spot on, and has since been confirmed by what's been happening in Washington since then. Ovechkin's numbers are down steadily. Not only did he go from 109 points to just 65, but he went from a +45 Plus/Minus rating to a -8! This validates Milbury's point that Ovie is treating hockey like it's a day at the beach.

[@Zuhaltermann]

Jeez Milbury.... Surprised he didn't whine that hockey players hit each other this time, like any other time the tools on tv. What a greasy stooge.

[@mattlabrecque7842]

I know I am late to the party but what does Millbury know about team construction. I remember his days as the GM of the Islanders.

[@Eric-zq6sb]

That guy at 0:42 , who appears on the left side of Milbury's head. He looked super focused on something and nervous... until he gets to wave at the camera at 1:06

[@budparks]

@mkjeep07 you DO realize that crosby and malkin dont play on the same line, save when theyre on the power play?

[@likespaintball]

Nothing against Crosby, but other teams are able to stick their best checkers out against Ovechkin (and Backstrom) in a single shift. When they face Pittsburgh, they now have to use two sets of checkers to cover Malkin and Neal. Point being, Ovechkin is easier to stick to when checking because he's their only true scoring threat. Pittsburgh has 3 players that can get 40+ goals.

[@WingsOfAnemia]

@hockeypark how can you compare skill? they play different positions and have different line mates. There are too many variables here to make a case

[@Alesana101567]

crosby is the best player in the league. Ovechkin is a solid sniper but all he really can do is slap it from the point a couple times a game and every once in a while get a big hit. if anybody is close to how good crosby is its john tavares and maybe mackinnon in a few years. well mackinnon will probably be better. same for mcDavid when he gets drafted but as of now crosby is obviously the best in the league

[@KP-wt8qr]

Looking back in 2024 both have had fantastic careers but Crosby has been the better overall player. I like Ovechkin too, both have their amazing characteristic play styles and advantages.

[@hugojf6]

The main difference between those 2 players is that Crosby plays both sides of the rink, the reason why his team performs better in playoffs.

[@TheFlamingPike]

There's pretty much no way to compare Crosby and Ovechkin except for their star power. They are not only different physically but on the ice as well. And that was a fact even 12 years ago when this video was uploaded.

[@SlipSlydinLydin]

His job isn't to hold peoples hand and give a watered down G-Rated critique of players. I've seen Mike be critical of Crosby too, calling him a punk when Pitt and Philly had a brawl. Just because you don't like Mike personally, doesn't mean that he doesn't know what he's talking about. The man went to Colgate University and was the Bruins team rep with the Player's Association. He's far brighter than you give him credit as being.

[@Letsgoflyerzzzz]

I may be biased as a flyers fan. But if i were to choose Ovechkin or Crosbitch, no competition. I would love Alex as a flyer.

[@jrsnowden25]

There are 6 billion people on this earth. And not one of them play the game as well as Crosby. The argument has been, whose better, Crosby or Ovechkin. Then last year it suddenly became Crosby vs Fraud Giroux. More recently, I've seen Crosby vs Stamkos. I think the only argument now should be who is the 2nd best player in the world.

[@WingsOfAnemia]

@hockeypark is it not the captains job to get the team prepared?

[@twistedschism716]

@NickPerryman18 did you see the press conference today ? It seems that concussion is a bit more serious than you thought no training camp for sid you still gonna hold on to that pipe dream of his concussion not affecting his play and him being the best this year or are you ready to finally concede ?

[@seph_f]

@Raphinater I'm not sure how a one dimensional goal-scoring winger is more "complete" then a 2 way center man who has shown he get be a goal scorer or a set up man. Crosby is more complete and there's no arguement there. Ovechkin is a better pure goal scorer.

[@hockeypark]

Who's better Crosby or Ovechkin: Its really up to you to decide who is better Alex Ovechkin: 1.335 PPG Sidney Crosby: 1.363 PPG Very close PPG, but Ovechkin you can argue has more goals than Sidney, after all, a puck can bounce off you, be picked up, be dangled thru the whole opposition, and be scored and you'd still get a point for an assist. The award goes to Alex Ovechkin, there is a reason he has all those MVP awards, he can throw his body, man up more and he also has a better attitude.

[@indybop]

OV is a "puck excites me guy", crosby is "team wins excites me guy"...crosby is in it to win in...OV is in it for...have not figured that out yet.

[@OvieSnipez8]

Milbury probably pissed off Roenick by saying "isn't the score 1-0 right now?" Stanley Cup wise, because Roenick got that chance to win a cup, he never got to see a SCF again, Roenick knew if he were in a comparison, the person will debate Stanley Cups, like every pens fan..

[@CrzyCanuck76]

Might as well give Crosby MVP honours today for what he's accomplished so far this year without a Top 25 scorer to play with. He has pretty much single-handedly carried the team on his shoulders. He's hands down the best hockey player in the world. Period. If you're a Crosby hater just look at his stats and watch him in a game. Leadership personified. This is the type of player you want to build a winner around. Until Ovechkin gets past the 2nd round don't compare the 2.

[@Aclept]

trade crosby? lol coming from a washington fan since 1999, trading crosby would be the stupidest move ever.

[@bobwilson5162]

Ovechkin in my book is not my first pick he's not even top 15 if I'm building a team

[@tylerbrickey6329]

You can't be serious?

[@jmoriarty8000]

i agree id rather an all around center than just a guy who can score goals not in the top 15 is a bit extreme but there is at least 5 players id rather have than ovi, take a center over a winger any day and so would any nhl team

[@kagura222]

So who would you choose as a winger over ovechkin lol ...?

[@leroydubya]

Milbury's comment calling PK Subban a clown for dancing DURING WARMUPS brought me here. I had no idea that Milbury and JR regularly got into it! NBC had to be lovin' it!!

[@SlipSlydinLydin]

Analysts of EVERY major sport count championships!Whether it was Lebron vs Kobe, or Peyton Manning vs. Brady. Success is measure in LEADING your team to a title. It's what separates guys like Jean Belliveau from Marcel Dionne Marcel scored 200+ more goals & 550+ more pts in his career, yet all people remember is Belliveau's 10 rings to Marcel's 0! By the way, Ovie went from scoring 109 pts with a +45 rating 2 years ago to 65 pts and a -8 rating this year. Milbury hit the nail on the head!

[@machbaby]

The only negative thing I can say about Ovechkin, is that he can be lazy on the back-check at times.

[@mindlessman2009]

Anyone notice how whatever points Caps/Pens fans use in the Sid OV debate get like...completely thrown out the window the next year? Back in the day, Caps fans said Crosby can't score goals...he goes out and wins the Rocket Richard. Pens fans say OV is a puck hog...he gets more assists than Crosby. The same year Sid outscores OV for the Richard? Caps fans will say OV missed 10 games. This year? It is Sid who has missed the more games (even though he still outscored Ovechkin for now)

[@SlipSlydinLydin]

He never punched anyone. A guy grabbed Stan Jonathan stick, and the O'Reilly went over the glass, grabbed the guy who did it and just held onto him while waiting for the cops to get him. Then fans started punching O'Reilly, so his teammates went and grabbed the guy and his 2 sons who were in their 20's, and Mike took the guys shoe off and smacked him in the head with it. It was quite funny in my opinion. Nobody from the Bruins was throwing punches.

[@MrBnmlord]

You can't compare them because they don't play a similar game. Crosby is a smart and creative two-way centerman. Ovechkin is a gritty offense-minded scoring winger. It's not like Gretzky and Lemieux. They played a similar game.

[@waynemackinnon2215]

If it weren't for Braydon Holtby Ovechkin wouldn't have his name on the Stanley Cup. Crosby has been very instrumental in two cups and two Olympic gold. Crosby is ten times the player.

[@05Night33]

It's funny how, for Milbury, a cup seems to be a more valuable argument for or against an individual player than.. individual stats?

[@pbassn]

Crosby has much more potential, Ovechkin was statistically #1 in many cases, who is really better? In my opinion Crosby is more dedicated to the game, and will be better than Ovechkin, it already shows. This past Ovechkin had 398 shots on net (closer to 425-450 if he hadn't of missed games) and scored 50 Goals, Crosby had 298 shots and scored 51 Goals. For every 7.96 shots Ovechkin took he scored a goal. For every 5.84 shots Crosby took he scored a goal. Who has a gold medal? Stanley Cup?

[@djrondo1224]

Very hard to compare the two but both will go down as all time greats.

[@boatmonkey20]

How sweet would it have been to see JR push away from that desk and go kimbo slice on milbury!!! OV 's energy,passion and skill is hard for even the most diehard pens fan to deny. And even though he has won just about every trophy there is, my boy still doesnt have a cup. Im a huge CAPS fan and I love the guy,but he and the CAPS will never receive the credit they deserve until Bettman hands OV the cup. Which will be about 100 some days from now in early june. GO CAPS!!!

[@KevinBYee]

Never said Ovechkin didn't have good team mates... just saying that everyone champions Crosby has the hero of the post season, but he really didn't do squat against Detroit. You are right though, he did outplay Ovechkin during their series. I'm sure if the Caps didn't knock two of their own goals in and had advanced to the finals, someone would be saying the same thing I'm saying about Crosby about Ovechkin... oh well. We'll see this year.

[@Petros0077]

Not sure why the title is "Roenick rips"... would be more aptly titled "Roenick favors" or "Roenick debates"...

[@tarantism]

ovechkin carries his team on his back on some games. there is no denying that he is the heart of the capitals, and just because they haven't won yet shouldn't take anything away from OV.

[@kungpaobenji27]

Milbury's first point was figuratively "both Crosby and Ovechkin are both amazing talents in their own respective ways." Milbury didn't fire back at Roenick until JR figuratively said "Ovie is so much more electrifying than Crosby." Guess Roenick should've listened the 1st time, haha.

[@tjcurrie]

Best examples ever. Kevin Lowe has twice as many Cups as Bobby Orr and Ray Bourque combined. Jim Paek won 2 Cups in his first 2 seasons and Ray Bourque won 1 in 20. Peter Stastny, Marcel Dionne, Adam Oates, Pat Lafontaine, Dino Ciccarelli = 0 Cups Grant Fuhr = 4 Cups. Dominek Hasek = 1 Cup So ya, that argument doesnt always hold water. At times its valid. But you cant throw it out there like its the end of the argument. Not at all.

[@DJSephEntertainment]

Roenick is a pens hater because Mario and company ruined his shot at a cup.

[@3timeMVPNash]

That'd actually make sense if Crosby wasn't you know, injured. If he was healthy he'd probably be the leading scorer this year.

[@jmdomgaard]

These two guys have been at each other the whole olypics! its great haha

[@RampRat1984]

well i tend to appreciate the facts. the canadiens are on a 20 year cup drought but they've won over a quarter of all the stanley cup championships in nhl history. just cause something happened before you were there to see it doesn't diminish it's importance. i appreciate the success the wings had in the 1950s even though all the guys from those days are in their 80s. i guess i appreciate history more than most people. and that goes for history outside of sports too.

[@RI531]

Milbury: NO BODY WANTS TO SEE THEM IN THE CONFERENCE FINALS....We see this match up all the time and we even get the privilege to have it shoved down our throats again for the Winter Classic. Also, the point has been proven with other comments that number of cups do not completely show who is the better player.

[@barjinder8]

You know nothing. Crosby is a elite franchise center and the only all-around player. Ovechkin is a franchise winger and elite goal-scorer. Gretzky and Lemieux were completely different also. One was 6'4, 230. The other was 6' 185. That should be enough to tell you how different they are

[@R0bb89]

@danhockey08 True, but this season has been an exception concerning scoring goals. There are many guys who haven't scored nearly as many goal as the previous seasons.

[@raymondflower9133]

can u really tell me why u would do that ?

[@porkwop8]

i personally think that the 2nd assister shouldnt get a point. i just hate people who say that crosbys point per game total is higher than ovies.. well ya take away the secondary bullshit assists and see where there at. goals are just definitive and in my opinion a pure goal scorer is more valuable then a point producer

[@randylion2]

Saw Ovi on Tuesday, and man! was his style of play something to watch even if he was playin against Latvia. Could be a big year for Ovi, Gold and a Stanley Cup. Like in the NBA, Wade and James, sure Wade got the ring but James is a guy that can get you outta your seat.

[@adamzielinski2001]

Too many concussions for Ronieck there. Ovi continues to do squat in the NHL. He was playing on a third line for crying out loud. I think the Caps should trade Ovi while they can still get something for him. Make Backstrom the leader of the franchise.

[@Austrocanuck]

It's porterhouse steak versus filet mignon. It's just a matter of taste. Ovechkin IS more exciting, but Sid has one cup. WTF? They're both great. The NHL is loving this controversy. If you are into this, you have to watch "Sid the kid vs Alexander the great" - very interesting. A PR man's dream.

[@metarika2]

Right on JR, right as always! And we all know how well the Olympics turned out for Ovie and how bad it was for Crosby. The entire Russian delegation left Canada that night back to Russia and vowed to "never let Russia be humiliated like that again". I'm sure that was a fun meeting for Ovie!

[@Regalman]

? Crosby had the golden goal lol

[@M1GHTYM4VS]

Well Caps usually just have one superstar on their team whereas Pburgh has atleast 2 when they grab the cups, even Lemioux wouldn't have taken two without Jagr, Francis, Trottier, Coffey and Murphy, neither would Crosby without Malkin, Gonchar and Veterans like Sykora and Guerin. Caps have had only Ovechkin and Bondra as Superstars with a decent passer like Backstrom and Oates but that's about it.

[@NickPerryman18]

@twistedschism716 just because he doesn't throw massive hits doesn't mean he doesn't contribute besides offence. He has established himself as a good centreman who is defensively responsible and can block shots and clear goals around his own net, as well as be strong on the puck and make smart decisions with it. Our opinion of dominant differs in what is important to the team.

[@SlipSlydinLydin]

When you are the team leader, no matter what sport you play in, you will get more criticism than players with smaller roles. Lebron James was probably the most vilified player in all of sports until he finally won an NBA title. Like Ovie, he was considered to be one of the top 2 players in the game, but people questioned his ability to finish and always said that he would never have Kobe's work ethic. Lebron went out and PROVED the critics wrong this season. Ovie did not! See the difference?

[@WanysWorld]

I just don't see Ovechkin and Crosby as the same type of player. They are both great talents and yes, as a die hard caps fan, I am hoping that Ovie brings us our first ever cup. Ovie and Rick Nash are probably a better comparison. Big and strong, hard hitting but skilled to the teeth.

[@MoBigelow]

Sidney Crosby scored the game-winning overtime goal in the gold medal game at the Olympics, that's something.

[@Iloveswedes]

Yeah, but still Canada has a star team.

[@SlipSlydinLydin]

It's not a non-point at all. Championships help define players leadership qualities. If you want to compare goals and assists, Ovechkin is older, so obviously he will have more. But Crosby averages more points per game than Ovie, and Sid is the better player.

[@outdoorsman909]

You realize that if Crosby didn't have his injury problems, he would have embarrassed Ovie. Oh and on the cup thing, you do realize the caps haven't made it past the 2nd round since 1998. What the caps fans can't get through their heads is that it's Defense and good Goaltending that wins the cup, not Offense. They tried that in 2010 and look what happened. If they go in vs Rangers thinking Ovie will carry them to the cup, it's gonna be the same result. Oh I'm a red wings fan and Sid is better.

[@hockeypark]

@bern1417 Wrong. Dupuis managed PPG of 0.39 and 0.47 in his first two seasons with PIT/Crosby. He's done better in BOTH 02-03 AND 03-04 with MIN, also tying his first total of 0.39 in 05-06 with MIN again. Kunitz, taking into account he only played 50 games, only managed PPG of 0.64. He smoked that number in his days with ANA in 06-07 with PPG of 0.74 and 08-09 with 0.65. I've done my homework. Clearly, you have not. Therefore, you shouldn't talk. Playing with Crosby makes no difference.

[@eichboy96]

@hockeypark THANK YOU!

[@shawnmalie2597]

OV is a puck gunner! Crosby is one of the best 2 way players on the ice. Cups is more important than scoring leaders. Crosby gets the nod

[@lopesy]

I hate when TEAM championships are used when discussing the better INDIVIDUAL. Crosby is better all around, but he is also easier to replace than Ovechkin. To me, Ovechkin is better offensively and has a lot more charisma.

[@tylerbliss9851]

I don't know why everybody fights about whether Ovi or Sid is better because usually Ovi is better than Sid and then Sid is better than Ovi, it's an off and on thing