Iron Man 3 SPOILER talk

[@lewis9950]

Ah, now I know why I love Iron Man 3 so much. I didn't know anything about the fucking Mandarin from the comics, so I had no problem at all with how he was in the movie.

[@lewis9950]

*why

[@fdthedon6628]

+comiclord aint you supposed to be a comic lord and you dont know about the mandarin 🤔😂💁🏻

[@thecyberneticphoenix7040]

( claps)

[@lmaobatman257]

Seam

[@BionyX1993]

You don't have to know comics in order to see the shitty script that this movie has.

[@janeyrevanescence12]

My brother and I actually looked at each other when the Mandarin revealed himself like "Seriously, they *had* to do a bait and switch?!" The only good side to that was that Ben Kingsley looked like he was having fun. If an actor is clearly enjoying themselves, then it makes it enjoyable. We aren't big Iron Man fans and that got on our nerves.

[@Xqvvzts]

Your father in a burning Santa Claus costume: YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SANTA CLAUS?! I AM THE SANTA CLAUS!

[@PforPZ]

Here's my history with Iron Man: I wasn't familiar with Iron Man in any medium whatsoever until I saw the first Iron Man movie. Ever since then, I started to get to know who the villains are. And when I learned the Mandarin was in this movie and he's considered to be Iron Man's greatest nemesis, I want to see how much of a great he would be, especially he was being played by Kingsley.And then when that twist came up I was like, "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!" Yes, I'm one of the few people, who never grew up in the Iron Man lore, not only hated the twist, but despised it as well.

[@erick7704]

They ruined the movie

[@abheeroku900]

@@erick7704 no the movie was good

[@fvillag1]

@@abheeroku900 HELL NO.

[@giovannifoulmouth7205]

When the bad guy started breathing fire tho...

[@PRSOne]

And then never really used it in battle. Meh.

[@kipperbill]

"you-you breath fire? Ok."

[@kipperbill]

Cheesycurve 54 You- you forgot that quote from the movie? Ok

[@camrendavis6650]

Giovanni Foulmouth I know right, greatest rapper of all time. cuz he spits Hot Fire

[@lostinthegarden79]

Camren Davis he rips when he rhymes. He rhymes when he rips.

[@justcallmedeadly8057]

wait.... Santa Claus isn't real?!?!?!

[@clarkkentissupermaniambatm9214]

He is real

[@clarkkentissupermaniambatm9214]

+The Shadow Master ok

[@rickycollins7723]

He is real. He is VERY real. He is simply making an illusion, like saying "Oh would if santa claus wasn't real?"

[@thrkld6332]

I just typed that xD

[@alsage9992]

No he is real. He lives on a special farm where my pets went after they got old.

[@zackh_3781]

my opinion is, was it a good plot twist for a movie? Yes, was it a good thing for a loved character with tons of lore? No.

[@jslaughter95]

so your opinion is the exact opinion jeremy had, good, good

[@sollyb1275]

I see what Marvel was trying to do with the Mandarin..I think it would've worked well if Iron Man wasn't based off of a comic book or atleast if this Mandarin wasn't based off of the comic book villain. But since it is, it feels like its just disregarding the awesomeness of the original Mandarin. Decent attempt but staying closer to the original material would've probably worked better.

[@timothywong7280]

+Solomon Beckles Let's say the trailers of IM3 says that the villian would be the "Samurai" WITHOUT building this character up with badass lines, badass costumes and a badass actor; then they do the twist. In this case I would be okay with it. Sadly, the reality is that A) Marvel bastardized an iconic villain, and B) Marvel promised me that they would NOT bastardize said villain in the trailers, with all those badass lines and shot that were not even IN the movie. I personally may love CA2TWS and GOTG, but IM3: never forgive, never forget.

[@Guido69Trini]

+Solomon Beckles In one of the Marvel One Shot's they basically confirm that the REAL mandarin is still somewhere out there. So, here's hoping that we get to see him in phase 3.

[@MusicDJish]

People need to watch the one shots, mandarin do exist in the mcu. Watch all hail the king.

[@TheBloodyBlackJackal]

There’s nothing wrong with the twist in itself. As Jeremy pointed out, it’s really not all that different from Batman Begins. The problem lies in that they took away an intimidating villain and left us with... Killian. Had Killian actually been an intimidating and charismatic villain with the same gravitas as Ben Kingsley, there would have hardly been any complaints. Also, I like the one-shot concept of “there is a real Mandarin out there”. It sucks that the Iron Man series has concluded, especially since they have introduced sorcery into the MCU with Doctor Strange, I think a 4th Iron Man movie with the real Mandarin, and featuring Strange as a backup character (like Hulk in Ragnarok), would have worked perfectly.

[@GamingCloudedLeopard]

When I was watching the movie I just laughed about it but I realized what a missed opportunity it was afterwards.

[@lizmary8392]

When I saw Iron Man 3 in theaters, and the Mandarin was revealed to be an actor, a kid in the theater stood up, said "F*uck this im done" and walked out XD It was hilarious

[@supersatanic]

Hahahaha. I'm not an IM3 hater but this is hilarious.

[@Stud03Muffin]

No he didn’t

[@gohanson27]

@@Stud03Muffin Worst comic film to date in imo.

[@armyofuno8196]

@@gohanson27 you don't watch many then

[@gohanson27]

@@armyofuno8196 I seen them all. Definitely top 5 worst ever.

[@chronousnemesis]

There are 3 things that I don't like in this movie: 1) Tony blowing up all his suits 2) The Mandarin as a hippie 3) Pepper pots

[@yahtoray3]

hahahahaha her last name is pots

[@nizzanator]

You forgot to mention them pretty much shitting on the premise of Tony Starks chest Arc Reactor by simply removing shrapnel from his chest with some type of surgery. I mean what was the point of him having the chest reactor, if he could have simply had surgery to remove it. Its fucking stupid

[@rickycollins7723]

I liked Potts. And I HATED Iron man blowing up his suits at first. I felt it was a waste, it was terrible, and it had no point. Now I understand it more, and I love that decision. It was just Tony Stark, letting go of his "destractions" that plagued his life and took his life over.

[@johnstovall6829]

I agree

[@captainjakemerica4579]

I agree with the first 2

[@Timdeuces]

I rolled with it, probably because i'm not that into Iron Man lore.

[@myvanwycalista3387]

I rolled with it because I'd never heard of Iron Man until the films.

[@Timdeuces]

You too with me, or Daniel?

[@georgetownplaza6945]

you guys are a bunch of losers!

[@benm5970]

I've always believed that even if you're a hardcore fan of a character you're not required to want them to be portrayed in that 1 specific way and that way only

[@HellionX13]

I was hoping for the last moment that, Ben Kingsly IS the actual mandarin, and he was the one playing guy pierce nto thinking that he is running the show. Till end cerdit scene i was waiting for them to show that the stupid actor, was actually the real mandarin, making a fool of everyone. He gets his work done, becomes a menacing figure to the public, and when they come to catch him, no one suspects him as he is eccentric and harmless. Would have been priceless. :)

[@Velociter]

Can't wait for Capitan Russia Revolutionary War. The one where Steel Man fights Captain Russia. That'll be great...

[@Fstwist3393]

+PooleParty24/7 for the freedom collective

[@georgeapplewhite6198]

+PooleParty24/7 my friend i think its called captain america civil war

[@DirtyCurti]

+PooleParty24/7 You mean mean Steel Woman, not Steel Man

[@MrSukram777]

In my eyes, the reason for Killian to be different from the Mandarin is this: The Mandarin is a warlord. Killian is not a warlord, he's just a business man.

[@kevindreslin5925]

If only the actor was a body double (like Tony suspected) for the Mandarin, this whole movie was ruined after that plot twist.

[@lexavi80]

I think it was a ballsy move and I loved it. Took me completely by surprise and I dig that. You don't see that in movies very much. That being said... I also understand fans who are against it. I acknowledge it, but I don't share it.

[@HumBugVo1]

Guy pierce was shit

[@_poozer_3470]

At first, I wasn't a fan of IM3. In retrospect, I realize the scene in question was actually a brilliant plot twist. It raises this modern notion that sometimes the face to certain evils is what we assign it as rather than what it ACTUALLY is. People being "let down" that Mandarin wasn't the larger than life terrorist we thought he was, says more about who we are and our own mindset than the movie itself. I think IM3 did a great job of playing with audience expectations and satirizing modern portrayals of villainy in a post-9/11 world, where we expect everything to be so bombastic and out in the open. Real evil lurks in the shadows and survives by letting us give it the face we want it to have.

[@nathanreames3481]

I agree. It was an awesome plot twist. This movie deserves praise just for having the balls to include that in the movie

[@crdude806]

or NO.. in the comic book.. the mandarin.. Actually IS doing all the terrible shit.. its just not a figure head..

[@ourlasthero51]

Exactly!

[@ourlasthero51]

rub ber Actually there is a story with the Mandarin that was very similar to this where he was working behind the scenes.

[@TheJpmaster69]

I get your point. Movies that make you reflect and think about your judgements have depth which you don't find often. But for fuck's sake that bearded guy was awesome as the mandarin, that all plot-twist was a major slap in the face to every single Iron Man fan.

[@tylerrand4319]

I was hyped for the fight between the Mandarin and Iron-men. Then they revealed him as a actor. After that i was just angry because i used to watch the Iron-man cartoon late at night on Jet X (comment if you know what channel that is) and the Mandarin was a force to be reckoned with, a true, hardcore villain. Then they gave me some dumb villain who has a grudge against tony cause he blew him off on the new years of 2000. Hollywood why do you hate my childhood. Hope Iron-man 4 is better.

[@Evelina_412]

There may not be Iron Man 4. Or worse, the could be Iron man 4, but with a different actor. RDJ's contract will be over after Civil War (correct me if I'm wrong) and it's not clear if Tony Stark will be recast. There's also a possibility that they will just let Iron Man go and move on with new characters. They're already introducing a lot of new characters. RDJ loves this character, so I REALLY hope he will stick around, because no one could play this character better. He is Tony Stark. He is Iron Man.

[@jackdullboy8723]

Tyler Rand one question tho, what is the mandarin's power I know that he's a martial artist but does he have other powers, too?

[@jackdullboy8723]

Emmay864 there could be an iron man 4 but maybe it'll be called something else like man of steel, they don't call it superman but people know it's supes. plus marvel has already dug too deep for recast since RDJ is so good and if they recast, what're they gonna do, reboot iron man?

[@tylerrand4319]

Nhat Lam NGUYEN The Mandarin have these rings that are not magic but posses some type of hi-tech alien technology. They are kind of like the infinity stones only on a lesser level when you tap in to there full potential. This is what makes mandarin such a great villain cause he posses real power. For more info you can do your own research. Also I was kidding about that whole iron-man 4 thing. I doubt they are really going to make one.

[@jackdullboy8723]

Tyler Rand cool, shame theres not much magic in iron man 3

[@alexmaverick6647]

Ya lookin for the Joker? I am the Joker!

[@vincentnguyen1995]

That still makes me laugh.

[@hunterkiller1440]

Before this movie, I didn't know what the Mandarin was. After this movie, it felt like a lackluster. Feels like a rehash of Edward Nigma from Batman Forever and Buddy from The Incredibles. The character development was alright but could had been better. They didn't show much friendship between Rhodey or Tony. It felt kinda flat and lacked the emotions and growth of the first one. Too many unanswered questions in this movie, like the super soldier formula and how did Killian get his funding. But the Iron Man suit up scenes and the ending was awesome. After I figured out who the Mandarin was in the comic books, I can understand why Mandarin fans were pissed off. Imagine Venom, Green Goblin or Doctor Doom was just an actor.

[@Bryan-dr5qy]

There is a real Mandarin

[@fvillag1]

Just think of Gene Khan aka Real MANDARIN killing Shane Black.

[@JoakimOtamaa]

@@Bryan-dr5qy Yeah, Wendu was lame.

[@abheeroku900]

@@JoakimOtamaa no he was a good villain

[@marianogomezdesilva659]

the mandarin (before he was revealed as a drunk dude) was kinda like the osama bin laden of comics

[@mypalalex]

The Not-Mandarin was a big kick in the balls. I literally almost got up and walked out, but I had to see where they were going with it. But what was worse for me was that Tony Stark had the surgery! I mean, it's the device that makes him rely on being Ironman or he'll die. Back in the day, the suit kept up his health, therefore he needed to be Ironman. So now he has the surgery to prevent the shrapnel from killing him, and now what? He's still going to be Ironman for goodness sake? Sure!

[@Manuel0673]

"you're looking for the Joker, I am the joker" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[@G.S.Productions]

Spot-on impersonation.

[@PforPZ]

For me, I never grew up with Iron Man in any form of medium. So when the first movie came out, I decided to go see it. As a result I loved it. But before every time I'm gonna see a Marvel Cinematic Universe film or any comic book film in that matter, i have to do research on who the characters, especially the villains, are so I can judge from a comic book fan's point of view. So when that plot twist came out, i was like, FUUUUUUUUUCCCK!" And no, I'm not exaggerating because everyone in the theatre had the same fucking reaction. And I do agree with Jeremy that this kind of plot twist can work, like in Batman Begins, but what they did with the Mandarin was inexcusable.

[@Night-rage]

The whole Manderin charade thing was THE BEST THING IN THIS MOVIE. They are trying to send a message, in real life the bad guy is never the scary dude the media wants you to hate, there usually are some corrupt/creedy business men behind the figure head that are actually pulling the strings. When the movie started I sighed, and was annoyed I though "here we go again with the cliche middle eastern bearded terrorist, we get it blablabla", but when this twist came around I nearly applauded. I think it was really original, and if they did the standard mustage twirling villian it would have been just another super hero movie

[@Night-rage]

PS, Also note that Killian wanted to control both sides of the war on terror, something to look into if you still don't realize how real this movie really was

[@spencermalley10]

Michel van der Molen I get that but you can't blame people from wanting something different from yet another generic evil businessman especially one as cliched as Killian

[@Night-rage]

Spencer Malley I think the biggest complaint is more that the Manderin isn't the magic wizard that he is in the comics. Even if they made Killian more interesting in any way, people just like to complain because "It's not like the comics". People fail to understand this take on him is way smarter and realistic then evil Merlin, who would totally not fit in with the style and world that we see in previous Iron Man movies. But to each his own.

[@spencermalley10]

Michel van der Molen Again, I get where your coming from but still did we really need yet another evil businessman as the villain for three movies in a row?

[@TomJ1999]

+Michael van der Molen All of iron man's villains have been corrupt business men. The fact that they took a classic character and pretty much shitted on him is not cool. This movie was heavily criticised by fans BC they destroyed one of iron man's best villians. The story for iron man 3 was also super predictable. adding mandarin and magic would have made it better and less predictable. also you are clearly not and comic reader BC you would be infuriated with what they did with such a classic character as the manderin

[@antoclarke4185]

I'm not a hard-core Iron man fan, but can imagine it's like saying Lex Luthor is just some guy in his basement threatening people with his blogs

[@ObaREX]

My problem was that Guy Pierce sucked in this movie. Well, his character. He just couldn't be taken seriously. Yeah, the did a good job of making me hate him but it wasn't in the way that's good. He wasn't a good villain. He wasn't menacing. His reasoning/motive/whatever wasn't good enough. He wasn't badass. He just came off as a douche. Simple as that. He came off as a creep but in the way where it's like I just didn't want him in the movie. He wasn't an awesome villain. I really just wanted him to go away. He was annoying. So when it turned out HE was the big bad of the film and the one behind who I thought and WANTED to be the awesome villain... I was pretty pissed. And the revelation of it also was done in such a comedic fashion it pissed me off more. It made me feel like a total idiot. Like all the drama and grit of the situation/movie was just sucked away from me. The movie could not be taken seriously anymore. The movie became a joke. Not to mention Robert Downey Jr (or the writers) absolutely FAILED at portraying Tony Stark's PTSD. Barely any of the humor was actually funny. It was just pathetic. The movie was pathetic. The only thing I liked about was that little kid that Tony befriended. He was a cool kid and I like cool kids. The scenes between him and Tony were actually funny and heartwarming. Really the best part of the movie for me and... let's face it, that is not even close to enough to make this a good movie.

[@HyraxusPrimus]

You've got a really solid argument. About the PTSD thing, I've been thinking, why would Tony be suffering from the space portal? I'm not saying it wasn't a traumatic experience, but I tend to think he would already be going through PTSD from what he went through in Afghanistan, what with the firefight, the shrapnel in his chest, the surgery without anesthetic, and of course months of captivity and torture ending in losing the best friend he had and falling out of the sky. Not to mention all the times he almost died in that same movie and the sequel. Oh, well. Hopefully one day, we might get the Mandarin we deserved, AND the one that we needed (I really can't stand those movies anymore, they were good for the first few watches, but they became so nonsensical to me). I also want my giant space dragon (Fin Fang Foom over lava people any day of the year).

[@Legendaryknight2]

Andy Howard I think that is what just killed the mood to me. When I saw the trailer, and heard "A hundred people want to kill me" and the apologies thing, I was like: Yeah, those demons are coming back, and the PTSD just brought everything he went through, not just new york. I thought the Aliens would be related to the 10 rings on the first movie + some notion that if starts taking down the avengers one by one the world would need to rely on him for protection. The I want this technology theme from the previous ones, and this would hit Stark really hard. But I kind of bought it because... In the previous two movies, Tony has a way that he keeps things to himself, in the first one he isolated himself because people just didn't believe he wasn't crazy, on the second one, he was slowly dying, he was having a hard time with it. In this movie, the kid fit just perfectly, Stark treats him like an adult and the kid rolls with it and is patient with what he is going through. I just can't buy Killian because he is just the Syndrome without being a super intelligent human that made him some gear, wait, Syndrome is Iron man.

[@SGRev1]

+Edward Gil (ObaREX) At last, you nailed exactly why that plot twist just did not work. I felt the exact same way as you did. You deserve a medal.

[@kongsied4279]

Yeah they definitely picked the wrong villian to do that with, the maderian is ironmans joker/lex Luther/red skull

[@ourlasthero51]

Only because people say so, unlike those other villains who have proved they are the arch nemesis for their respective characters. The Mandarin's just had a lot of appearances.

[@Hal2718]

Our last hero Umm... no, it has been well established for decades that the Mandarin is Iron Man's arch nemesis. That's the whole reason Marvel was even saving him for Iron Man 3. They literally could have done this with any other villain. But they decided to fuck with the one guy who has always proven to be the biggest threat to Tony Stark.

[@Zeratultheking]

Our last hero He is literally his arch nemesis. There is a reason he appears a lot. That's like saying no joker isn't he just appears a lot. It makes no sense whatsoever in any context.

[@spiritoffire7862]

Thanks you guys, I knew I wasn't the only 1 who knew this

[@Zeratultheking]

I did see that on the thor 2 special features and it does provide hope. Though I think they are again going for more the terrorist angle instead of each ring having power.

[@FreelancerLA]

The real Mandarin is referenced in "All Hail the King".

[@farbodpirouz9458]

breaking bad?

[@FreelancerLA]

The Marvel One-Shot from the Thor 2 Blu-Ray. The real Mandarin sends an assassin after Trevor.

[@backupfagr]

If they make a movie with the real mandarin, I would like Ben Kingsley to be the mandarin, because he did a great job as the mandarin (you know, before the twist) And maybe they could say the look a lot a like, and change some things about the outfit and hairstyle, so they are not the exact same thing.

[@DREWxFLOW]

Spartan Gammer Ben Kingsley probably won't be the Mandarin, as he would then play two roles in the series and it would be kind of weird...

[@backupfagr]

***** It would be weird, I just said it because he did a good job before the twist. They could say they are twins or something like that

[@GabrielDanvers]

I think the Mandarin plot twist could have been smart, if he wasn't just some actor. That was completely stupid. I related this situation more to the [TDKR SPOILER] Bane/Talia Al Ghul situation in TDKR than about Ra's. Because they switched the villain from the Mandarin to Aldrich Killian, as they switched from Bane to Talia. The big 'however' in this is that in TDKR Bane was a real villain ALL the time, he just had a boss, which was Talia. That's why it worked. Here, the Mandarin turns out NOT to be a real villain, he's just a stage actor. If in the movie he was in fact a villain, a terrorist called Mandarin, that was hired by Killian to get people's attention, they could've done this plot twist work as it worked for TDKR.

[@gabrielfischel294]

not only that but killian sucked, he was one of the worst villains ive seen. his powers were extremely weird and so was his backstory, like he goes from being a nerd to a millionaire just because tony stark hurt his feelings that one time?? extremely chliched backstory and it didnt work

[@Evelina_412]

***** A villain from the East who brings Tony down, but that makes him realize something, stand up and kick the villain's ass? Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, in the last two Iron Man movies. Marvel was just trying something different and it payed off for them, don't lose your shit over it.

[@MrSukram777]

***** It's called "All Hail the King"

[@edeuardo1000]

Does the reviewer know this?

[@jackdullboy8723]

gabriel lopez feels like the incredibles, you know that one villain who got hurt back then and now become a villain

[@WhovianRoxas]

I personally loved the twist and I think this bit from the Blockbuster Buster's review of Iron Man 3 perfectly sums up my feelings on the backlash it got. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now let's talk about the complaint that I've heard the most: "They ruined the Mandarin" Okay, if you think this then you really weren't paying attention to the movie. At all. 'Cause the Mandarin wasn't in it. "But the trailers promised me the Mandarin and I wanted to see the Mandarin in it." Really? You wanted to see an accurate portrayal of the Mandarin in the Iron Man movies? Think about that for a second! After two movies which dealt with Tony Stark dealing with the sins of his past and pitting his technology against that of his enemies, you wanted to see him fight a space wizard? I'm sorry, guys. I love the comics but that just doesn't fit with the theme of the Iron Man movies. Look, as far as I'm concerned, this was one fantastic bit of misdirection. It's the kind of thing that the Marvel movie writers have to do to surprise us jaded comic book fans who know all the storylines. And, personally, I thought it was brilliant. The perfect way for Killian to cover up the Extremis explosions and keep all the attention away from his illegal activities. I think it's just sad that people ignore Ben Kingsley's amazing performance, as both the vicious terrorist and the has been actor, and focus on the so-called erroneous portrayal of a character who wasn't even there to begin with! As far as I'm concerned, this was a bold move and I applaud it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can watch the full review here: blip.tv/the-blockbuster-buster/honest-review-ironman-3-by-the-blockbuster-buster-7139955

[@tokyopp]

As an Iron man Fan i raise the fucking question why all the comic movies from Marvel need to be full of humor and action comedy? why don't make a movie like Nolan did with Batman or Zack Snyder with Man Of Steel? Iron Man 3 tries so hard to please the audience with comedy and fucking up the Mandarin with some more comedy twist, the villain ends up feeling genetic and out of a steven Seagal movies, over the top action making it feel useless because of the bad plot, the only Iron Man movie that it is worth watching many times is the first one, the 2nd was good but not great and the 3rd one was awful, trash.

[@henrymiller2930]

Toxicity-Industry You might just be the stupidest person I've ever encountered

[@urayoanruiz6780]

Toxicity-Industry But Iron man 3 was super dark

[@magicman205]

I've never picked up an Iron Man comic. This movie still sucked ass. The Mandarin was almost on par with The Joker from TDK until he's just some joke. That's not good storytelling.

[@captainjakemerica4579]

Tell me about it they have made him more in line with the comic book Madarin

[@TechnologicallyTechnical]

I'm not even really an Iron Man fan and I've never heard of the Mandarin before this movie and I was still really disappointed that the Mandarin wasn't real cause he was such a thought out and menacing villain. When he shot that dude with the president calling that was 100% menace and then they tell me it was some Mike Myers like actor. The guy from Memento didn't feel like a good replacement. He wasn't very menacing or at least not nearly as menacing as the Mandarin looked. It felt like a pointless and weak and disappointing direction for the movie to take.

[@hadleypantell2664]

Fun fact: marvel does shorts. In one of them they reveal that there is a real Manderin who was pissed at the actor dude for pretending to be him.

[@TheCrazyfighter19]

I would have loved that joker ending haha. "Hi. I'm bob."

[@thesparingdonkey30]

Role the credits lol

[@Tekrothebountyhunter]

Personally, I would of liked it better if the Mandarin was an Asian mastermind with lots of advanced technology, money and connections, probably played by Ken Watanabe. THAT would have been a great Mandarin. I think the reason they went for the route they did in Iron Man 3 is because the producers were probably convinced that the Mandarin comic book character was just another phoned-in villain who's main theme was "He's Chinese," so they wouldn't have been interested in taking him seriously and rebooting him into a badass.

[@Djinsin]

I like how the short "All Hail the King" basically said that there's an ACTUAL Mandarin.

[@yelu6]

Ben Kingsley was my favorite!! So I had no problem with that.

[@eshswam]

Yelu C. Ikr....I was hyped because Ben Kingsley is an incredible actor, and I was excited to see him play mandarin. Then the plot twist came and although it was sad, I actually loved the plot twist.

[@SeanMcNallySpeaks]

This was the most insulting plot twist in the history of insulting plot twists.

[@MrYuenH]

the movie wasnt horrible, but just barely good. iron man 3 was supposed to be a large scale feeling movie....but i just didnt feel the scale it was hoping to be. especially when iron man doesnt really do iron man shit, instead controls his suits like a remote control robot and seeing 80 percent of the movie having tony stark trying to be a deep and complex character when he just isnt. i did like the action at the end though with his "house party protocol". but then you realise, tony stark isnt the hero, fuckin gwyneth paltrow is.....

[@JakeEatsCircuits]

Still holding it to my heart what Ben Kingsley said, which was obviously said on what he wanted it to be, not what was truly going to be. Trevor Slattery is the true mastermind, letting Aldrich Killian use him as a scapegoat and let people believe the Mandarin is gone after the event, but then have Trevor actually be the Mandarin.

[@hollyroxy25]

i don't think the mandarin can really be compared to the joker. the joker is the BEST comic book villain of all time in my opinion. i never really cared about the mandarin like that so i don't really care how they represent him in the movie. i thought it was really smart, fresh, & funny.

[@Japheth19]

He compares the Mandarin to the Joker in the sense that he is Iron Man's MAIN villain. Joker to Batman is Mandarin to Iron Man. They are very different characters, but they are the main arch nemeses of those heroes. To take the most important villain of that hero and completely shit on them like that...it is just downright stupid.

[@hollyroxy25]

Japheth19 i can see how people who are fans of the mandarin would be upset of their portrayal of him in iron-man 3 but like i said, i didn't care one way or the other & actually liked their spin on it.

[@jackdullboy8723]

Japheth19 to be honest tho, it's not just the mandarin I had problem with in this movie, it's the final scene, I mean "I am iron man" well if they have said it differently then I'd be okay but since the dark knight trilogy everything about iron man 3 seems like a copycat of the dark knight, from the injury to broken mask poster and to the I am superhero no more i'm just a normal man now

[@Nightlightknight]

Holly Roxy As much of a Batman fan as I am, is it wrong for me to be intrigued if that plot twist was in fact used, and The Joker is just some nerd in his parent's basement? I'd like it because while it isn't The Joker I know, at least it is a refreshing, and if plotted properly, workable take on the character. I get that fans are attached to one version of a character and that the original comics are like gospel to some, but come on, it's just a version, not THE Mandarin. At least take that for what it is, and consider the film for it's merits rather than be blinded by pointless hate because this was, in my opinion, a pretty good comic book movie.

[@142doddy]

No, Joker is to Batman what Manderin is to Iron Man. He's not "Villain of the week" He's not "Just a member of the rouges" He's the *Arch. Nemisis.* To say "Fuck you comic fans, you don't get to enjoy the movie as much as casual movie goers who have never read a comic" Is a shit move for a comic book movie.

[@vincentnguyen1995]

I'm wondering if it is possible that the Mandarin does exist in the Marvel Cinamatic Universe. I was thinking that possibly in the Marvel Universe that the Mandarin was a folk tale or myth in the Marvel universe that Alderich Killian was inspired by to create the Mandarin persona that we see in the movie. However, Killian doesn't realize that the folk tale about the Mandarin is actually true and there is a Mandarin out there in the Marvel Universe. If this somehow happens, Mandarin comic book fans will be satisfied by the existence of their beloved Mandarin character without needing to negate Iron Man 3. The Mandarin doesn't have to be all powerful as his comic book counterpart but he could be toned down enough that Tony Stark could actually fight and defeat. If he is exactly like his comic book counterpart, I think the Mandarin could be a villain for the Avengers to fight in the future.

[@chriswestergaard4506]

...That's not a bad idea..

[@lauragutierrez3218]

And in the part where Tony meets fake Mandarin, he talks about plastic surgery, so they can use not only the character, also, they could say that another person got inspired by the fake Mandarin and decided to become him

[@vincentnguyen1995]

Laura Gutiérrez Yeah. Theres several places Marvel can take thie.

[@lauragutierrez3218]

Yes, because the overall movie did not suck. I watched again, knowing what would happen and it wasn´t that terrible.

[@vincentnguyen1995]

Laura Gutiérrez The movie was still a letdown.

[@netizen_m3919]

I wonder if Ben Kingsley is going too appear in the Shang Chi movie 😁

[@arkxerxes8017]

The actual Mandarin probably wants a few words with him tbh

[@benm5970]

For me the twist with The Mandarin didn’t anger me because it butchers the comic lore, because I know nothing about The Mandarin, it angered me because it took a potentially awesome villain and swapped him out with a bland, uninteresting one

[@thaDaniroy]

im really hoping for a real manderin. cause i liked iron man 3 but it hurt the movie for revealing the actor as the manderin. i used to watch the iron man cartoons from the 90s and he was the most awesome villian in it

[@zachdeleon4784]

I know right! If they didn't ruin the mandarin this movie would have been excellent and I wish they'd make another one with the real mandarin but that will never happen

[@calebh5584]

Zach Deleon There is a cut-scene on the Thor 2 disc that's about the real Mandarin trying to kill Trevor, so according to the Avenger's Cinematic Universe, the Mandarin is legit. (not Trevor)

[@thaDaniroy]

that's cool, glad they didnt throw away a good villian.

[@victorkain3500]

Hated the Mandarin, but everything was redeemed with 'All Hail The King'

[@RandomTXDude210]

This movie proved to me that the Iron Man team has zero respect for the comic book fans. As evidenced by the fact that they understand who and what the Mandarin is, and how cool he needs to be, and then they pull the rug out for a cheap M. Night twist and shit all over such an awesome super villian.

[@MsStormcrow]

I blame the new not jon favreau director. You can't blame the whole crew & cast. They trust that the writers & that the director has a vision & knows what he's doing, but he didn't! Guy Pearce totally over acted, but the rest of the cast was pretty good. RDJ was great & Ben Kingsley killed it. I just wish he had turned out to be a real villain. The twist sucked, but the rest of the movie was passable.

[@RandomTXDude210]

+Lori Burnip The issue is everyone, for the most part, signed off on the story as is.

[@antona.8659]

This movie was the equivalent of having a severe case of diarrhea during an important business meeting.

[@TheSliferSoul]

I never read a single Iron-Man comic book, and I still hate this twist. You have this intimidating terrorist who lurks in the shadows, blowing shit up, frightening everyone, and then it turns out it's just a cover for the real villain who is a forgettable generic Bond-villain wannabe. Like, WHAT THE HELL!!!

[@Theckmicnerd]

Ikr!

[@TheSliferSoul]

The_wood_chuck Chuck Yeah! To be fair though it's a good twist in it's own right, and Kingsley is kinda funny (for a while). But I was still disappointed, and I didn't even have high expectations.

[@Theckmicnerd]

Yes I agree

[@tatehildyard5332]

Watch All Hail the King if you were bummed out by this Mandarin impersonator.

[@touchstonefan0348]

Who's watching this after Shang Chi?

[@KenjiRyuma90]

Did you know that Ben Kinsley is not the Mandarin, in the sorry video, All Hail the King, the 10 Rings bust him out of prison because the real Mandarin wants to kill him. There is evidence to support this, on Iron Man 1, when Tony Stark is captive, you can see the 10 Rings symbol. So Iron Man 3 is not as bad anymore, you are welcome.

[@stevenm4881]

yh i've seen this too it means we can potentially have the real mandarin in a future movie

[@sasoricrocodiel]

That is redeeming But I WANT a real Mandarin I mean, they have so many opportunities with such character !

[@stevenm4881]

nic093 if it was anyone else I'd agree but Marvel have been planning most of these movies years in advance they may have planned that too

[@sixseasonsandamoviee]

i love how u went from the mandarin to santa claus so quickly! :D

[@zack48708]

at least they fixed the mandarin stuff with Hail to the King short from Thor the Dark World

[@SergioMach7]

At least Shang Chi had a proper Mandarin. You could argue that film exists solely to fix Iron Man 3's Mandarin that divided everyone.

[@fvillag1]

NOPE..............Gene Khan is THE MANDARIN.

[@slickvik101]

I liked, clever twist and much more believable than the actual mandarin. Marvel is trying to bring the universe to life in a new more realistic way for the audience. The comparison with joker isnt valid, joker is iconic, has been Played multiple times in films, even non comicbook fans are familiar with him. i doubt many ppl outside of comic or cartoon fans even know the mandarin. Was a great film even if it f ***ed with comic boom lore a bit

[@22smosh]

1) BRING tHE UNIVERSE TO LIFE IN A MORE REALISTIC WAY??? ok just t recap in the avengers the adopted brother of a god summuned interdimecional aliens/dragons to conquer earth and the brother of this god along with a green monster a 40's soldier and ironman united to prevent the invacion? this is realistic? i mean i loved the avengers its great fun but dont tell me its gritty and realistic for the audience, also why tha fuck does ironmans suit breack so easily i mean in the first one it could take a tank shell but it this one it breake because of a truck, A TRUCK? also where tha fuck are the avengers i mean de fucking president is kidnaped buy fire breathing terrorists atleast captain 'merica would show up,

[@22smosh]

2) why would they call him the mandarin, give himthe 10 fucking rings he uses in the comic books and just shell out to say hes an actor? why does tony blow up all teh suits? wjy do they blow up like firworks no shrapnel? why didnt he use all the suits when the helicopters blew up his house. why dosent the clothing af said fire breathing terorist ( yea very realistic) burn? why dosent pepper use her powers to free herself but then later magically kills guy pearce, and the fucking plot twist where peper did not die was so obvious, why couldt the presisdent use the iron patriot suit to free himself? i could go on but fuck was this movie full of plotholes

[@vincentnguyen1995]

sebastian Reyes The Mandarin could have been a cool villain for the Avengers to take on.

[@alexcox9464]

Lance Kemal NO. The actual reason it made more money was because it was the 3rd movie after 2 very good ones in the previous 5 years. The reason it made more was because more people wanted to see it because they liked the first 2 and because of The Avengers. You sir are a dumb ass.

[@chriswestergaard4506]

It wasn't that they changed a comic book character that peeved me. I couldn't care less about how a comic is represented in a movie, what I care about is whether the movie is good or not. What ticked me off was the fact that the Mandarin was so intimidating and badass in the first half of the movie and then turned out to be nothing more than a hoax.

[@johnathonhaney8291]

I rolled with it, Mr. Jahns. There actually was something very similar in relation to infamous Bond villain Dr. No in "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier". In that story, the name itself was a joke: "there was no doctor." Given that the film was about more than JUST the Mandarin, I got to say that I didn't really care THAT much about "Laurence Oblivier".

[@alisakhuu9425]

Uhhhhh, not sure if someone has said this before but he is just an actor not the actual manderine. There is a minimovie that cmae with thor the dark world and it showed the manderin in jail and some guy comes and breaks him out saying "someone wants to see you. You stole his name and now he wants it back."...not sure if that needs a spoiler alert since its only a minimovie

[@2deepy]

Yeah, its marvel pretty much apologizing they pissed off fans

[@SILK97]

Man this movie has to be one of the worst films I've seen in my 16 year old life. So much shit wrong I don't even know where to start! 1st, the bad guys in this thing just didn't make any sense. While I can see why Killian would be mad at Tony Stark, was he really that mad to make up a fake terrorist threat, kidnap the president, and try to take over the United States? And where did Killian get all his fire breathing henchmen? I kno the movie shows that Extremis was used to heal wounded soldiers, bt why would they turn on the country that they went to war for? Why kidnap and try to kill its president? And the same for the Vice President. Would he really sell out his whole country to Killian just so his daughter would be cured of her disability. I know its gotta be hard to see a loved one with a disability bt come on!! And even tho I've never read an Iron Man comic, even I was disappointed by the Mandarin twist. When you advertise a guy with magical powers, I want to see some magical powers. 2nd, they should've changed the name of this movie to "Tony Stark" instead of Iron Man. Was there even one scene where he spent more than a couple seconds in one suit?? The final battle where Tony's jumping from suit to suit because they're all being destroyed realy made Iron Man look weak. And doesn't being able to sit back and control the Iron Man suit from home defeat the purpose of being a superhero! That's like having Thor sit at home and his magic hammer going out to fight super villains. 3rd, Tony Stark was just off as a character. Why was he so messed up by what when down in Avengers? Its not like that should have been a super traumatizing experience for everything a guy like Tony Stark has been through. I mean, he woke up one day with a hole in his chest!!! Now THAT would be a good reason for someone to have crazy flashbacks and anxiety. And why the hell would Tony Stark give a terrorist his home address and have absolutely no plan to defend himself!! The one suit he had available in case of attack was the one that wasn't battle ready yet! For a genius business man and weapons maker, that was a pretty dumb move. It woulda been kinda bad ass if Tony was stocked up on weapons and waiting for Mandarin to come at his house, bt he had no type of plan at all! There were some other little things that bothered me about this movie. Like all the scenes with the kid that was being bullied (totally pointless). And how ppl on Extremis could rip apart Air Force One and destroy Iron Man suits, bt couldn't even catch Tony Stark when they saw him in that bar. I just don't see how anybody could have liked this movie. Some were even calling it the best Iron Man movie out of all of the three. Now Iron Man 2 was just mediocre to me, bt it was wayyy more put together than this Iron Man 3 piece of garbage Oh and how could I forget the end credit scene. That was a big middle finger to anyone who stayed after the credits hoping for some hints at the next Marvel movie

[@pauliafrate8311]

90% of viewers will like it because they are not invested in the franchise. Taking a character like Mandarin and twisting him like they did only serves to piss off the original fan. Why do it? they could have invented a new character or shat on a lessor character. I was 8 years old when I picked up my first Iron Man comic book and recall the awe that struck me when I saw the Mandarin. Consider this... if it weren't for original long time hard core fans like myself, there would be no marvel movie franchise or the big pay days that the fat cats are presently enjoying. Show some class, remember why you are able to cash your check

[@Evelina_412]

If they would've kept the original Mandarin, it would be the third Iron Man movie with a villain from the East who has some personal problems with Tony and later just decides that he hates everyone in America, so Iron Man has to save the day. It would be predictable, repetitive and boring. These movies are made for everyone, not just people who read the comics, you have to realize that. Comic book fans would appreciate the well represented character, people who weren't that much into the comic books about say ,,What? Again?''

[@petergriffin355]

Just rewatched this for Christmas and uh wow enjoyed it a lot more than I remember

[@tacosancheese14]

*CHRISTMAS SPOILERS* Wait... Santa Doesnt Exist??!?!?!

[@oliverisjustsocool]

He is joking

[@matthewstockburger4309]

There is a real Mandarin. If you watch the Marvel one shot All Hail The King, you'll figure out. Actually do a review on All Hail The King

[@Zeriel00]

Santa Clause is not real?? ;_;

[@DrFamine]

Then who the fuck is that bearded guy who comes through my window every Christmas to eat the cookies and milk???

[@Zeriel00]

Dr Famine omg could it be? It's Shrek! Is all Ogre now!

[@DrFamine]

Nepu-Tech USA That'd explain why my anus always hurts the next morning.

[@Zeriel00]

Dr Famine xD

[@acrbell]

I agree with everything said here, though to the credit of Kevin Feige and Drew Pearce we did get All Hail the King. Maybe not an excuse for Iron Man 3, but certainly and apology and sets us up for another Iron Man/Avengers film and any of you that haven't seen it, I'd recommend you look it up. Any chance we could get a review/spoiler talk on that Jeremy?

[@redguy2215]

There was a short that shows that the mandarin is still real!!!

[@XxrSam]

Who. Gives. A. Fuck. About the Mandarin. This not not a comic book, it's a movie. There's not going to be magical beams coming out of anyone's ring. Get the fuck over it people. The movie was great.

[@Evelina_412]

Someone give this man a cookie!

[@GentM2015]

Well someone finally fucking said it.Iron Man 3 was absolutely awesome.

[@AmazingMReviews]

piss off. They built up the Mandarin for two movies with the Ten Rings.

[@jjhitm1]

I liked the movie up until the whole mandarin was a fake thing.....that kind of made me lose interest even though that final fight with all the suits was pretty cool

[@vincentnguyen1995]

Same thing for me. Everything before the Mandarin reveal was intense and good. After the twist, the movie became cartoony and forced.

[@Kamulsky]

If you paid attention, after Jarvis was repaired, they mentioned the cranes at the house, which was referring to the construction crew removing rubble from Tony's house. They had to wait for the con crew to remove the rubble from on top of the door which held all of the suits. So it was a matter of waiting until it was available, not neglect.

[@Flaris]

Really the only way they can repair this is to have a real Mandarin show up in the next Iron Man movie and kill the actor who pretended to be him here. Or at the very least have the next villain not be yet another damn evil scientist/businessman. When it happened it as just "really?....you're really doing this?" It just completely killed the movie and even an epic army of Iron Man suits couldn't save it after that. That could have worked in a Bond movie, maybe could have worked if they just used a random name for this guy. But pretty much removing the possibility of a major villain just for a twist...that's just weak.

[@bwc3519]

Watch the marvel one shot All Hail the King

[@animaanalysis]

No!! Santa!

[@35antonio]

God damn it, the Mandarin is real! Watch Marvel One Shot: Hail to the King (www.imdb.com/title/tt3438640/) I must be the only one that saw this.

[@KnightsaysNi]

I didn't mind The Mandarin twist--although I could have done without the toilet "humor"--but there was so much more wrong with this movie. The suits that exploded if you breathed on them, the actual villain basically being discount-Syndrome, Pepper doesn't die because of the magical plant and can suddenly control the pieces of the Iron Man suits, and it turns out Tony could have surgery to remove the shrapnel after all and can still be Iron Man but doesn't want to because of Pepper. I don't have too much of an issue with the inclusion of Tony's PTSD, although they could have probably used that in the second film instead and to greater effect as it was closer to him escaping an actual war zone and having killed people FOR THE FIRST TIME. I get it that he probably ignored dealing with any of that because "I'm Iron Man" or even "I'm Tony Stark," but it's clearly being used to humanize the character in this film and at this point it feels like the emotionally manipulative move it is instead of being believable. Wow, that got longer than I intended.

[@emile5921]

This movie was beyond stupid. All the Marvel movies are though..

[@ynotbelieve7]

Ur one of the few that think that

[@tatehildyard5332]

Watch All Hail the King if you were bummed out by this Mandarin impersonator.

[@tatehildyard5332]

I know right. They cured their plot twist with another plot twist. That is very hard to do without looking ridiculous.

[@tatehildyard5332]

Still a little weirded out by Killian getting ass-whooped by Genyth Paltrow in yoga pants. I wouldn't mind if it was someone else like Natalie Portman or Scarlett Johansen, or Mila Kunis.

[@tatehildyard5332]

Zooey Deschanel would've made a cool Pepper too.

[@oluja45]

Wait, Santa Claus, but ... NOOOOOO!!!!!! Oh and this movie sucked

[@bestboutgaming3212]

Everyone watch the Marvel One Shot 'All Hail the King'. It covers the Mardarin issue. Consider it a double twist.

[@abysspect]

Thing about these movies is they can always bring out the "Real" Mandarin at a later date, and reveal everything up to now has just been part of his big game.

[@ΕλευθέριοςΤσακιρίδης]

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahah you've got to be kidding me!!!! Hahah Eric Roberts impression kills! Jeremy, you rock, man! Do more impressions!! 4:21

[@alexanderguest1308]

I was watching this on my Xbox and when jeremy said Santa is not real my brother and sister started to cry thanks jeremy thanks.

[@bfoot869007]

You looking for the Joker? I am the Joker 😅

[@SirBelmerD]

Actually the real mandarin IS out there. Watch the "All Hail the King".

[@moonfog7989]

+Belmer Fdez-Cid totally agree

[@KevinCarney91]

+Belmer Fdez-Cid Yeah, but that only happened because the fans weren't as accepting of the twist as Marvel were hoping they would be.

[@FuZySLiPeRz]

+Kevin Carney So ? Does that point even matter if Marvel is trying to go out of their way to give us what we want?

[@KevinCarney91]

Aaron Mason The point is that it wasn't planned. Hell, we don't know even they even will go anywhere with it. It's just a bit sad that they took a risk and now they aren't sticking to their guns just because some people weren't happy with it.

[@SirBelmerD]

+Kevin Carney The only thing they did is create an interesting plot point, and to soften out the hardcore marvel comic lore fans, they added the One-Shot. Yes it had that purpose, but it's still canon. The real Mandarin is still out there. We saw the Ten rings in the first Iron Man movie, and in the tv series Agent Carter we see the usage of one of the rings. I'm ok with that.

[@kernel_cataclysm7306]

We all know that they try to come clear in "All Hail the King". I actually can see the portrayal in IM3 as a great plot point for a coming Iron Man movie. 'Nobody takes the rumors of a rising of new enemy power that goes by the name "The Mandarin" seriously, because everyone know the last guy was a fake and the new guy is probably just a copy cat.'

[@Vince1655]

Love the Eric Roberts impression. Definitely want to see more of that.

[@ourlasthero51]

Exactly! Thank you. I'm surprised no has paid attention to that. Just because he doesn't have the thing in his chest anymore doesn't mean he isn't Iron Man. He built over 40 suits, he can easily build another one.

[@BoogerLeader]

P.S. Marvel released a mini clip showing that the Mandarin actually becomes the Mandarin from jail. Well, it's hinted at in the clip.

[@evan5690]

Dude I fucking love you're reviews and spoiler talk! Easily the best Movie critic person thingy on the Web!

[@likeahazboz]

I rolled with it because I didn't know who the Mandarin was. When I found out I couldn't believe they did something like this to such an iconic character.

[@PhilFromSchool]

now i'm just picturing aldrich killian shouting "I AM THE SANTA CLAUS"

[@likely_avocado2]

Have to admit, the hypothetical plot twist in Dark Knight could have been pretty cool

[@gogetarocks100]

You have the most awesome voice effects

[@nbc4513]

i think it would be cool if they throw the mandarin thing deeper down the rabbit hole and you find out that killian was being played by a real mandarin who (as a way to connect it with captain America, aside from... avengers) is part of a cell of hydra or something like that. who provided killian with the resources and made him see himself as the one pulling the strings. I thought there was a line that implied that it was possible, but I guess not. as for the santa claus thing, sana= saint, claus = Nicholas. saint Nicholas was a real man who "santa claus" was based on. he died on December 6th 343 AD. most of the Christmas traditions are said to come from him. so santa claus WAS a real man. but he wasn't the one we know today. he was a priest born from a rich family and lived in turkey, who gave his wealth to those he felt really needed it. the "santa claus we've come to know had been started in a peom, and evolved from there. sorry, (i'm like everyone else who hears information they think is wrong and feel the need to "educate" / "correct" others on) I mean no disrespect (in fact I love your videos). and I don't intend to turn this into a religious flame war just because I used the word "priest" and/or "saint" (I've seen people start such things over smaller implications) I am merely stating that yes, there was a "santa claus" but no, he did not travel in a magic sled pulled by flying reindeer, nor did he live in the north pole and have worker elves in a toy shop. he was just a man/saint/priest who gave to the needy and died at the age of 73.

[@kylecasey9254]

I love that after Iron Man 3, there was talk that RDJ was done with being Iron Man. Those were the days

[@austinalexander8457]

Should've had a fourth movie with Tony fighting the real Mandarin. Will forever be sour over the fact they never even met.

[@SquidMonk3y]

Interresting answer to your question coming up: As a pretty hardcore fan of the marvel comics, AND the marvel movies, I've gotta say I liked the way they made the mandaring in the movie. I enjoy the marvel universe in the comics, and I still like how they change it to fit the movies. If you think about it, to introduce the whole "Madarin martial master kapow-man" concept in the third movie without any hints throughout the trilogy, the fans who haven't read the comics would just get confused, and there's a bigger percentage of viewers whoe don't know much about the comic universe lore, and they simply enjoy the movies. My SO is like that, as she's neber read the comics, but she loves the movies. So... TL;DR the comics are great. The movies are great. They are still two different medium and should be treated as such. (I just now realised I wasn't commenting on reddit... F**k it, I'll post anygays...)

[@Qai94]

Had no idea, I like comics in general but mostly DC and never read an Iron Man comic but during the movie felt it was quite an awesome and very funny twist

[@markkent927]

I rolled with it but I have never read an Iron Man comic. However I did Google the Mandarin and I thought it was stupid to do what they did. Like I said, I rolled with it but I absolutely do not blame fans for getting pissed.

[@joshwilemon6937]

My main problem was that it was two stories basically mashed into one, and the trailers were completely, deliberately misleading. I still watch that original Iron Man 3 teaser, and think "damn, wish we coulda gotten THAT movie." Do the Mandarin, or do Extremis, don't do both at the same time.

[@71Tman]

Yeah I was actually really happy with that and impressed that such a concept made it into a Hollywood movie. Definitely keeping my eye out on other stuff Shane Black does in the future