Jerry Heller Talks Pt.3

We sat down with controversial former manager of NWA & Ruthless Records, Jerry Heller. Hears what he says on the NWA biopic, Bone Thugs & Harmony and more. Pt.3 of 3

[@paul8079]

Seems like a decent guy. Very confident bordering on cocky. But he obviously knew the business. Cube and Dre were kids and didn't know the business. Back then you had to have someone to know the business or else you had no chance at making it. You think 5 guys from Compton would have made it as big without some help in 1988? No internet, no chance that any record label would have taken them with their lyrics. I think the man deserves some damn respect.

[@PHAT4LifeTV]

Amen, I'm glad one person spoke up and didn't make it a racial thing. I feel its EXACTLY as you say. You see people make and lose fortunes on the regular, whether its sports or entertainment, the underlying theme you will hear from un-successful stories is they DIDN'T KNOW THE BUSINESS. By all accounts from what I can see, Eazy-E was no dummy and if Heller was such a devil he would have figured it out and dealt with it. He was hardly a punk. I tell my sons now all the time that you can't be so biased about people until you lose your objectivity especially when it comes to race. Might have been a different outcome if Eazy-E had only known somebody like a Baby Face. Well Eazy-E didn't have Baby Face, he had Jerry. The man obviously had vision others didn't have because most labels wouldn't even listen to them, nevermind do business with them. There is no sugary sweet scenario in the NWA story but this guy seems pretty genuine to me. In this day and age you better be able to get along with all kinds of people if you want change the world. I hated NWA, gansta rap and all it represented but as far as business goes its a great American success story in its own right. I think the business is cut throat and you ain't gonna find too many angels, no matter what you think about any of them. I can honestly say, I gained respect for Heller after reading and researching things for myself. I came out of the Straight Out of Compton movie looking at him like he was the devil himself but when you listen to other people who were around them during that time they had a high regard for him, including Eazy-E's family. I think their friendship was genuine AND it was about business.

[@rentalife]

Ogre He's a genius! They should be thankful to this jewish cool dude. Without him they'd be still livin broke in Compton! He made NWA possible. That's what they don't understand! Thank you Jerry for that!

[@marcus.6487]

jerry was definitely a huge help, but they woulda still "made it" without him...shid, he said it himself -- but definitely would'a been more of a grind B'n that they woulda been independent, but they still could'a made it wit or without jerry tho

[@TheFlomodel]

>That's why he was never sued.

[@quiksilverblur]

Really enjoyed this interview. Excellent work!

[@MrKnjwhite]

I actually spoke to Jerry and Eazy on the phone back in 1991. Eazy was the most humble "superstar" I have ever spoken with. R.I.P. great one!

[@TitaniusGames]

How you talk to them?

[@MrKnjwhite]

In High School I would call Ruthless records everyday to send a demo. I called one day and Jerry answered and asked me if I wanted to talked to Eazy. I said yes and away we go! LOL!!!!

[@overfrone3109]

Korbey White that didn’t happen

[@jonathanlippe]

The most amusing parts of this interview series was anytime Jerry Heller would quote the lyrics. Jerry should do a remake tribute version of Straight Outta Compton and Eazy Duz It in his own voice.

[@WalkWright09]

I been enjoying this last night and this morning, great!!!

[@Salty4eva]

Props, this is an amazing interview. I'm glad Jerry is still around to tell his side of the story.

[@christo03]

rip

[@mrbigzz3985]

The man the myth the legend Jerry Heller. Excellent man

[@SiccnessNetwork]

Great interview now adding to our front page.

[@MoneyMMmizz]

WHAT ABOUT HIM BEING FIRED FROM RUTHLESS

[@rentalife]

10:10 - 10:43 min you see he really loved Eazy and is very proud of him! Respect Jerry!!

[@henkjanwolvega]

Great interview, thanks for putting all the Parts up!

[@otistheoldman4493]

Excellent interviewer...great questions. The host is one of the best.

[@DefSquadFan]

***** The host asked some stupid questions. The reunion was only going to happen after eazy fired Jerry. It was not ever a possibility after "No Vaseline". Cube was pissed then. Why would he even consider a reunion at that time? Stupid question like the lie detector question. Stupid. Other questions were okay though.

[@otistheoldman4493]

Now that the movie came out you can clearly see that you were wrong and Ice Cube was the first one that said yes to rejoin NWA .

[@israeliboytoy]

Jew man & Blacks always stick together in business Jerry heller is a real gangsta like capone and real not fake

[@ilan2endi]

lmao "Suge Knight ain't gonna kick my ass"! hilarious

[@BetoTheButcher]

Suge touches Heller and he knows the law and his team of lawyers will ruin Suge. Suge went after people who won't talk for the most part.

[@ggarcia713]

Jerry Heller looks like Carl Reiner that played Saul Bloom in the movies Oceans 11-13.

[@caciqueboriqua]

Thanks for this interview props to the Radio DG.

[@freshjive14]

business strategy above politics

[@SoopaBee]

There are always multiple angles to every story. I really appreciated hearing Jerry Heller's point of view. We only ever heard Cube and Dre speak ill of Jerry. It painted a one-sided picture for sure. We gotta remember that Jerry was closer to Eazy than almost anyone else and Eazy never dissed the man (at least publicly). I do wish that Jerry would be open to reconciliation with Cube. Sure, Cube dissed him pretty hard, but that's common with rap records. In fact, you say some pretty f**ked up sh!t on them records. But real men can find a way around all that. Anyway, great interview series. Well done!

[@dianehendricks6048]

NWA was the best! I wish they could have stayed together!

[@thiscoketastelikepepsi1402]

If you take all sides of the story plus a little extra research you will find that all of them were snakes except for Ren and Yella. They were the only true good hearted people in that group.

[@daniaolivapena9123]

I'm glad I watched this interview.

[@mixedxm3511]

Really interesting and enlightening interview. I like those closing comments alot from Jerry but I do always feel like something is being left out in NWAs late phase

[@mixedxm3511]

I mean I think hes leaving stuff out or making it all sound like a nice cutesy package and that everything is and "was" fine. I see why T would stay away

[@laidback72]

Shady? I think so, but I like that he's quoting rap lines which means he wasn't just business. He was in to the music.

[@SatanDynastyKiller]

Great interview, thanks for this.

[@shalifi7774]

I love the undertones for what Jerry is talking about here sometimes. lol. Indirectly calling some people out.

[@offtoptv8639]

Rodium swapmeet ...Brother u r bringing back good memories

[@boslss]

jerry heller is like al davis and ice cube is basically like marcus allen

[@OmarScruggs]

well the interviewer got it wrong. the NWA movie was great and well done. it was not one of those low budget hiphop films. Bravo to the ppl who put the movie together. i wish heller was involved so we could have a more accurate story but the film was DOPE

[@RohanSingh-bl2sq]

+Omar Scruggs it was not 100% accurate though.

[@OmarScruggs]

Rohan Singh no biop or movie based on a true story are. Ppl's memories are not a 100% and for hollywood they have to make it more theatrical than the exact story would be.

[@RohanSingh-bl2sq]

Omar Scruggs well I was talking about the well known fact that eazy was not broke after NWA but in movie they showed him as broke and downgrading his house also they showed him as if he was jealous of The Chronic's success but that was not the case in reality

[@OmarScruggs]

Rohan Singh i heard the downgrade in house was true but he wasnr broke. Just not bringing in what he once was. Who knows if he was jealous of dre. I never heard that he was.

[@bjharris634]

+Rohan Singh he did downgrade. That part about all the bouncing checks and shit was real. Jerry dicked eazy

[@djwarzone1]

Legendary guy

[@SiccDeville]

am i wrong or is Jerry Heller an honest man?? he has answered every question that has been presented to him. i still have not seen the move but have been looking forward to seeing it.

[@kittenforbunny]

Woh. This was amazing.

[@DefSquadFan]

A movie studio was going to do the NWA movie with Jerry Heller. Cube supposedly jacked it and convinced the studio to do it with him and dre if they want to make money. "Gimme that film fool it's a full time jack move..." Cube and Dre finally got to steal from Jerry.

[@sashasarronen6300]

You guys always believe what the white Jew tell you before some self made black millionaires.

[@sashasarronen6300]

What has cube and dre stole from Jerry heller?

[@corricemason7113]

many don't know the inside of the group but for us who were and still are fans of nwa, we'll compare from what we saw and heard back then. Ruthless, Lench Mob, Death Row.

[@joebovovitch7803]

i was about 10 years old in my gangster-wannabe-cousins garage hangin out with the bros wen i heard straight outta compton and instantly we wanted to be badass gangsters

[@SPGRAMPA1]

Amen..Preach-that-shit- Reverend Heller!!

[@billb5690]

The music in the background is bumpin

[@jordanflores5687]

C'mon man you don't know what that is?????

[@YouTuber-wi7oc]

Excellent interview!

[@bismillahrabbani9006]

Is the date above correct? Should it have been June 27 2015?

[@molt100]

He is right, he should have been in the movie

[@SyedAli-xm1yq]

I wished he asked Jerry about him hiring Mike Kelin from Mossad.

[@WhiteLabelRadioShow]

Who is that?

[@AvimadyeOrunni]

@@WhiteLabelRadioShow A Jewish Supremacist who was trained by the Israeli Goverment to hunt and kill surviving Nazi Officials after WW2. Jerry hired him to potentially kill Suge Knight.

[@Roy_Al_Blak202]

what's the instrumental playing round 18:24 called??? anyone???

[@zigfonzy]

This Jerry Heller guy is so real. I could sense 90% honesty in him throughout the interview. There is a honest white guy behind every successful black guy!

[@geecheeflow9828]

LOL

[@jverses100]

+Nahdot Media White people just leach off the talent... blacks are just generous enough to let them ride along!!

[@PrideSlavic]

What is the track on the start of the interview,it so funky ?

[@joeybrabham8091]

Housewife dr. Dre 2001 chronic

[@BetoTheButcher]

Great interview

[@Palace-of-Madness]

MC Ren was the best one in NWA.

[@sashasarronen6300]

Naa after cube, he was. But first cube tho...

[@anonimofied]

@@sashasarronen6300 ice cube is a unthankful piece of shit

[@willson1177]

Eazy e on top motherfuckers then cube,ren

[@fuckyou12]

What

[@kellythomson8564]

I believe him like he said they would of sued if he stole money suge knight was the problem

[@tarseven2153]

+Kelly Thomson I can't believe some people are dense enough to actually believe this man is innocent of screwing them over, contractually. When they vaguely state 'stealing' they're talking about his attempt at draining ridiculous amounts of money owed to them. Was it "illegal"? No. It was all a part of the bogus contract he tried to covertly get them to agree with, and sign. Jerry is fully aware of what they're talking about and what he's done. The man has a silver tongue that simple minds eat up without question. No offense to you personally, just saying.

[@theblacksheep5209]

Kelly would you married me

[@J.Trujillo]

Smart man, take notes people.

[@israeliboytoy]

whats that song in the backround?

[@MrBillyboyroge]

Dr Dre housewife 👍🏼

[@GRINDETHIKSMIXTAPESHOW]

one thing I agree with him is music playing from a phone does sound gay lol sound systems are still the shit

[@rns011]

My guess without Jerry there would be no NWA. Did Elvis get screwed if the Colonel got 1/2? Not. Artists get it wrong a lot, so what if E fired Jerry, doesn't mean he was right.

[@zigfonzy]

Jerry Heller is an OG

[@zigfonzy]

You idiot, I mean he's got an OG state of mind !

[@sneaky1921]

Dre, cube wouldn’t be where they are today if it wasn’t for Eazy E and this man period! And snoop wouldn’t be anything either! RIP TO THE 🐐 Eazy💙

[@josephdillard9907]

The "25 years for a joint" thing was back in the early days of the war on drugs, these days people are far more sensible about these kinds of things, the war on drugs is still a problem but we are on the right path now at least

[@josephdillard9907]

30:35 This is something we still have a huge problem with today, anytime a movie or a song or an album is "cleaned up" and edited it ruins the whole damn thing. Such a thing shouldn't exist, if parents don't want their kids hearing those things, don't let them see or listen to it, don't fuck it up for all the rest of us so that we have to look around all over the place to find a version that hasn't been fucked up and edited, the shit is irritating as hell...

[@lawabidingcitizen218]

He mention this damn mystery cousin one mo gin!

[@lawabidingcitizen218]

And his voice is ANNOYING as hell!

[@ClassicManTV]

This Disc Jockey was obvious wrong about the quality of the NWA video. He was very nicely done. @WhiteLabelRadioShow

[@Tasadaru]

23:12 very true. Adds to his credibility.

[@Phillip_Simpson_3]

nah but big quint can you react to ed sheeran x tho

[@ejkboxing]

Jerry is acting like he made Dre & Cube all that money they have. They earned that money after leaving his ass. Bernie Madoff is on tape saying the same shit Jerry Heller is saying about how impossible it is to steal money from people in the stock market.

[@willson1177]

He got there name out tho

[@Bughachampion]

They played out the instrumental of housewife instrumental in the backround!

[@franchotbell944]

Did you hear that, "I WILL BE AT THE OPENING OF THE N.W.A. MOVIE WITH MY LAWYERS". Hot dam it's on. HE JUST MADE ME WANNA GO SEE IT EVAN MORE. Hell I was going anyway...

[@DefSquadFan]

Cube claims he used Jerry's book as reference for the movie.

[@rexbanner4608]

Cleveland to LA. Over 2,000 miles on the bus. Wow

[@rexbanner4608]

Chris boom Yea it was worth it for sure. I'm just saying that's a crazy long trip on a bus lol

[@inkytv1713]

If he he did work for anybody since the 70's How could Eazy E fire him

[@NYRyder1983]

Wait hold up. Maybe I'm missing something here. In the interview, he said none of the members of the NWA were street guys. Then he said MC Ren was just as much as a street guy as Eazy-E. Why is Jerry contradicting himself?

[@SloaneLasers]

He said Ice Cube wasn't a street guy.

[@tubby123tub4]

1980's I was in Elementary school not even a teen yet where was you

[@clutch8685]

if you wanto hear crossroads look up ETERNAL CHAMPIONS BAD ENDING from sega genesis

[@josephdillard9907]

23:23 Sorry guys, but television is essentially over too, it's all about streaming now, a huge portion of the population don't even watch TV anymore

[@mariavelasquez8507]

Who you know* eazy couldve sold 200,000 instead he got the machine and a person who can do more for the group than him. Only 1 nwa, and jerrys loyalty and interests made them international. Influential and revolutionary music with truth and hardcore lyrics. Public enemy with a twist of Ice-t and the leadership of a well connected manager was the formula. Death row used the same blueprint and dominated everything but Dr.Dre was the talent behind all of it.

[@jackblasted4115]

Yeah, he would have stepped away until the money started rolling in

[@harald808]

he's got good stories

[@1ranjeeves21]

a very smart guy

[@tashagreen6197]

genius

[@T-Way21]

why does Tony Montana have those same glasses in Scarface..

[@coyleigh2860]

Cause he trynna be like Jerry Helle!!! Game recognize game.

[@harald808]

he was supposed to be involved in that movie

[@willson1177]

He was?

[@NEONOIRERA]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion

[@willson1177]

Jerry heller chose eazy e bc he was a real g n ice cube was a studio gangster

[@almightyyq8859]

Who tf is the guy giving the interview?

[@SiccDeville]

hell yeah, bone thugs out of Cleveland. I took my skills after Bone Thugs and Brotha Lynch with a touch of Xraided.

[@emjaydavillier1891]

francis p brotha lynch was the shit, still is, rest in piss... my shit!!

[@Gofuckyamudda]

Oh! 😲 I think I understand now. Like Don & Mike . There was so much fuccin money, that even if he stole some, (Everyone Was Still Happy & Wealthy as fux.) So what ! Don took $10. Mike still had $18 clean , & there is no complaining, if you were expecting $20. You now understand too, right ?

[@alexszandercakoski4491]

this guy is still chasing money like everyone else he is hoping they make him look far worse in the movie just so he can sue them

[@RubenRyb66]

top 10 music citys in the world? wtf is he talking about? Is there a list of the top music citys?

[@Gofuckyamudda]

Hey ! It's Jerry again. And 60 thinks Jerry is cool. I don't understand. Id like to work with him.

[@Gofuckyamudda]

I'm sorry. He lost his Eazy, but 60 was there , just waiting to be found.

[@Gofuckyamudda]

And so sorry to say this , but 60 is 10 Eazy's.

[@Gofuckyamudda]

Absolutely. He will be there with his lawyers, & one of them , is the greasy Deathrow guy. Probably Johnny Cochran's sister. " YOU WILL LOSE "

[@nemospodcast6766]

I love haters talk shit before the movie even comes out!! Although he was right about the Tupac will be there she was horrible it was disrespectful To his legacy in my opinion. I knew that coming in when I knew benny boom was going to direct the movie is a video director that doesn’t mean he can’t do a movie but for your first big 🎥 nah John Singleton RIP should’ve did it!! Benny Bone should’ve continued with action movies swat 2 was a ok film!

[@fideltorres6380]

Dr Dre best beats were definitely with Yella as his sidekick 👍🏽

[@jokerfavela2049]

jerry needs too hookup with the mexican talent they talk about the truth n the stuggle

[@freshjive14]

music from the church

[@fhputube]

I left ruthless cause E died, ermm, which businessman does that?

[@gloriousdeath666]

NWA turned rap dangerous.

[@gloriousdeath666]

***** Dangerous as in starting the gangster rap movement. I'm 42 now so i remember how NWA changed rap from a political, conscious,fun to what you pretty much see now. Sure, there were other street rappers before NWA but nothing quite like them during that period. I mean, they rapped about straight up violence with no helpful meaning to it. After their success I noticed the KRS-1's and Public Enemies kinda fade off only to be replaced with Gangster rappers such as Spice 1, Mc Eiht The Ghetto Boys etc.

[@franchotbell944]

To this day NATURAL BORN KILLER'S by DRE & CUBE is still the (S""T)!!!!!!!!.....

[@anidiottryingnewthings200]

Bogie smith and what song has your punk ass written?

[@franchotbell944]

O.K. GUYS, WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS. ALSO JUST LIKE THEY HAVE THE HIPHOP POLICE THEY ALSO HAVE INTERNET POLICE.....

[@bjharris634]

People are stupid

[@Yeebr00]

The "truth" of NWA is a nebulous and shifting cloud floating within the middle ground at the intersection of the varying accounts of those who lived these events. Human's do not experience pure truth, truth is a word we give to our partial experience of reality - only God or some such being, abke to see every angle from every vantage understands truth. A person's perception of reality, may seem accurate and truthful but is skewed by that persons point of reference, vantage point and perspective, and more importantly their ego, bias and insecurities. i don't doubt that for the most part, everyone involved believes, for the most part that their account is reality. Jerry Heller's truth has ultimately been stretched and skewed by his position in society, his former business success and although he believes he has behaved with honesty and integrity, i don't believe he has the frame of thought to undsrstand the effect his actions have had on Black American communities. i wonder if he would promote these same values and ideals if they were from a segment of and delibered to his own Jewish community, also would he feel as positive about thw historical signifigance if it were a Black Man funding and profiting off the Jewish Community? Would he be as proud of what some would say has contributed to the a large amount of degradation and destruction of a culture, community and people - would he find this a worth wild venture for his back yard? i don't know but i have noticed that his overtly syrupy non-threating voice becomes ever more soft and passive and high pitched, as to not cause alarm, whenever he defends his actions or speaks of something confrontational. It reminds me of the seductive snake from the Jungle Book cartoon -- one can almost imagine the sachrine whisper in your ear as he slides the knife between your ribs.

[@kimberlymorgan611]

Churches chicken Danny's Burt lax imperial Crenshaw

[@ruhap9311]

FYI, If you correlate the interviews this guy is almost surely very snakey playing nice. His greediness broke it up, evidently E and Dre were no angels. Shout out to Arabian Prince.

[@InScaneMusic]

SxTx all day fuck na wah

[@lawhousemediagroupllc.3957]

ALL LIES.. MY BOOK "BOYZ N THE HOOD" COMING SOON

[@WhiteLabelRadioShow]

Let's get you on the show. we are based in LA

[@lawhousemediagroupllc.3957]

KOOL AFTER MY BOOK DROPS

[@WhiteLabelRadioShow]

Word we are ready

[@Brudergaming]

Where's this book?

[@solo353]

He talks some shit though. But i guess we'll never know the truth. Three sides to every story...

[@EZisdaname]

This is really boring. The interviewer is getting played. Jerry is not answering any questions what so ever lol. He just talks about whatever he wants no matter the question and name drops a ton throwing you off thinking he said something relevant lol.

[@EZisdaname]

Also this interviewer sucks

[@damitbobby6677]

Huh?