Jesse Watters grills Satanic Temple spokesperson

The Satanic Temple spokesman Lucien Greaves joins 'Jesse Watters Primetime' to discuss the presence of Satan clubs in schools across America.
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[@CarlosClarkIIMD]

Still waiting for Jesse to "grill" this spokesperson.. 🙄

[@richardweinsteiger1285]

It was a softball interview

[@markbitar8337]

Like CNN interviewing Joe Biden!

[@rikmichaels9233]

@@richardweinsteiger12853:11 this is the main point , not more to interview about

[@capmorg73]

I think you may be the only one on this channel that understands the sarcasm and the real message.

[@taylorm771]

​@@richardweinsteiger1285 Cope lol. Title literally says "grills" and Watters is constantly going for dunks, but realizes this guy is just a normal dude with spicy branding

[@JakeLuden]

My favorite part was when Jesse made himself look like an idiot for 5 minutes and 28 seconds.

[@juliusmerlino2027]

You'd think he would have done even the slightest amount of preparation.

[@Daisy-nf6nc]

@@juliusmerlino2027 Satan isn't as smart as he thinks his!

[@juliusmerlino2027]

@@Daisy-nf6nc I'm with you, Watters is an airhead.

[@atheistangel007]

@@Daisy-nf6nc "Satan isn't as smart as he thinks his!" Whoosh!

[@ayshamccubbins7552]

Same! I don’t think I’ve ever seen an interview go so poorly for the person interviewing 😂

[@iloveplasticbottles]

Jesse intentionally mispronounced his name. There's no way he did it unintentionally.

[@Scrapla1]

Weakest form of debate tactics. He does stuff like that all the time.

[@benjaminstephens7524]

@@Scrapla1 from this alone he seems worse than Tucker Carlson

[@UrIgnorantImArrogant]

It’s be crazy for an American to have never heard the name Lucian before. Jesse’s trollin

[@whatupmexican]

I love how Fox News just casually puts up their backfiring videos like this.

[@HoneyDrake]

That video didn’t back fire at all . First of all the guy looked like he was demonically possessed. And if the children can’t say the pledge allegiance in the classroom , and they can take prayer out of school …then the parents can sure as hell kick Satan worshippers out of school and away from their children. When I was studying to be a cosmetologist, some of the girls brought playboy books into class, and I always had my Bible on me to read during lunch. Guess who was the one that was told to take her book home and not bring it back to school? Yep, me the Christian. I told the teacher I’d bring my Bible home, if she took those playboy books from the girls that were flaunting them all around the class.. The teacher didn’t say much to me after that.… Unless the people of this country stand up against this, we will be losing more and more of our freedom.

[@whatupmexican]

@HoneyDrake I love how you didn't watch the video and did not listen to the words he was saying, but just immediately judge him by his looks. Very Christ-like of you. I'm sure Jesus would be very proud.

[@deathbringer2336]

@@HoneyDrake You can’t really claim this is an example of religious persecution when there’s a Christian club at the same school.

[@HoneyDrake]

@@deathbringer2336 I never claimed that … I said they took prayer out of the school . I’m glad to hear they have Christian clubs in the school. The kids are gonna need it …Satan is the enemy of God and you’d know that if you knew the Bible.

[@deathbringer2336]

@@HoneyDrake Saying “take prayer out of school” and talking about how you were told to put away a Bible sure makes it sound like your talking about religious persecution. You also said you’re “losing more and more freedom”. Your whole comment seems to be based around religious persecution in fact. If anything, your persecuting satanists for not not wanting them to function like other religions.

[@blaineholt1589]

Jesse Watters: “eh I don’t know if I believe in all that empathy and compassion stuff”

[@alessioaznavour5275]

He said "I don't believe in debauchery under the pretense of freedom." Read between the lines.

[@juliedelaney4612]

This isn't have to do anything about three speeds you're talking about bringing people to hell to burn with you you're taking everybody down you should be promoting heaven in Jesus things that are going to save us from this world not make us be suffering beforehand

[@DA-of5yj]

@@juliedelaney4612 Satan was the good one in the story! God murdured millions and millions of babies and he allows for slavery. The God character from the bible is pure evil

[@BakedBukowski112]

@@juliedelaney4612 aren’t you made of a rib and incest in Christianity?

[@blaineholt1589]

@@alessioaznavour5275 where was the debauchery?

[@taikamiya8214]

Jesse: Give me one of your tenants Lucien: One should act with compassion and empathy. Jesse: Are you married? Jesse Watters is more of an NPC than actual NPCs

[@Allie734]

Jesse taking another L as usual

[@singingfan]

Was he going to ask Lucien on a date? I’m not sure what he was getting at? Lol

[@alexsherstiuk2537]

You are an NPC. He said "sounds nice", then asked if he's married. Why would you be mad at him here? He showed that it's just to be edgy, trigger some people and stuff like that. He showed they are OK and what their goals are, being edgy. End.

[@TotsNater]

​@@alexsherstiuk2537 Not quite, but whatever floats your boat Sunshine.

[@sarahb4484]

@@singingfanNah, he wanted to know by Lucien’s answer his family values….

[@Baphomet1307]

I love how every time Lucien Greaves comes on a show that disagrees with TST, he politely destroys them.

[@pinkscorpion3295]

Not in this case and I have seen him in several other interviews. What video are you talking about .

[@brettdoyle6002]

@@pinkscorpion3295 tell me you didnt watch the vid without actually telling me. lucien provides facts and logic, 2 things which republicans love, and yet jesse responds with nothing more than goofy conjecture. what video are YOU talking about, since I just watched someone from fox get their pants pulled down

[@smokyquartz5817]

​@@pinkscorpion3295You're welcome to argue him on camera anytime.

[@Sumbolon3301]

He's incredible

[@ryans6186]

@@pinkscorpion3295lol, definitely this video.

[@mastersonogashira1796]

There was definitely some grilling, but I don’t think it’s the spokesperson who got grilled

[@NotThatGuyPal.]

Spokesperson got smoked

[@flashoftruth]

@@NotThatGuyPal. Only to morons. 🤣

[@NotThatGuyPal.]

@@flashoftruth all the spokesperson did was throw little schoolyard insults. That’s pathetic and he looked like a clown.

[@flashoftruth]

@@NotThatGuyPal. The spokesperson is Lucien, what insults?

[@noicemate9111]

@@NotThatGuyPal.what insults? He seemed completely classy and professional to me. Maybe a bit aggressive but can’t blame him when you know you’re going on a show to be made fun of. As a neutral viewer, Props to him!

[@aln5832]

Reframed Title: Jesse Watters gets obliterated for 5 minutes straight.

[@offtraileddino5989]

*straight

[@aln5832]

@@offtraileddino5989 Thank you thank you my good sir.

[@sekaiyoru01]

​@@aln5832 Where does he get obliterated exactly?

[@aln5832]

@@sekaiyoru01 Watch 3:00 onward.

[@dalek14mc]

This is what happens when your goal is to disparage rather than ask honest questions. If Jessie wanted real answers instead attempting to make a mockery of people, he would have realized that modern Satanism has nothing to do with a real Satan. It has more to do with respecting yourself and nature. Oh no! How evil!

[@haynesatteh4463]

Great video, have always known there’s more to life than meets the eye, I feel like in this life i am supposed to be doing more than i am doing for the people i love. been seeking for an eye opening enlightenment, a way to be more influential, powerful and protected~

[@bartholetbay412]

oh well you can achieve that by being a part of the illuminatus brotherhood, i know it sounds like a mystery but there are ways you can actually get in contact with them

[@haynesatteh4463]

@@bartholetbay412 hi, isn't the brotherhood a myth?

[@bartholetbay412]

@@haynesatteh4463 Well it is not and you can't actually expect it to be open to everyone, but if you want to know more you can look up ANTHONY MARK SZYMON online you will find something interesting.

[@haynesatteh4463]

@@bartholetbay412 oh really, i just saw his website, interesting.i will leave him a message.

[@jeremybartlett7306]

If you can't have God in school, then Satan can get the hell out of school.

[@rigelb9025]

Actually, it seems quite fitting for Satan to be there if God isn't.

[@michaelslader9530]

It's an after school club. No one has banned any after school christian groups.

[@vincegoupil]

I love it when, through media manipulation, people discover truths that are as old as the world. The first wizard who conjured up supernatural power must have called skeptics Satanists (or some equivalent term)!

[@vincegoupil]

then Satan can get the hell out of school. SATAN = republcans and magas

[@justsomeuser5123]

Both are only allowed AFTER school. Learn to listen.

[@dyrtrules7196]

Jesses waters takin casual L’s as usual

[@adamgates1142]

Amazing how he does it with such a pompous grin

[@Solus3D]

Taking himself?

[@lovegrace3719]

The Devil is Evil. Evil was obviously named after the devil. There's a one-letter difference between Evil and the Devil. D is that letter. God is Good. Good is clearly named after GOD. There's a One-letter difference between God and Good. O is that letter. 😊👉🏾🙏🏾 D O Do the will of God NOT the will of the devil. Satan and his followers shall be cast into the Lake of Fire and Brimstone 🔥🪨🔥🪨🔥🔥🔥🔥🪨 Forever and ever. Follow the blessed Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. God loves you all. Love God and live forever in His glorious PRESENCE and Kingdom. Amen.

[@Stevenirons]

Not usually

[@jmhastings0]

@@lovegrace3719 bro most satanists don't even believe in satan

[@ericschmit5911]

So where are the Atheists who cried about the "separation of Chuch and State" as they did with Christianity?

[@American4.ISRAELS.right2exist.]

This is their the Athiest religion that's what they wanted all along. Oh then why call it Satans club? Just call it the after school club...? The fact you Satanist lie this blatantly. You basically are being just like Satan who is a liar and murderer by his own actions. Don't insult me I know more about it than you would.

[@evertvdb000]

you do'nt know that satanists do'nt really believe in Satan? seriously?

[@MakeAsylumsGre4tAgain]

@@evertvdb000 ah, yes they do. Go and have a look at all their websites. They’re quite passionate actually

[@TommyD1213]

@@evertvdb000 the guy being interviewed literally cited freedom of religion as the basis of their right to exist in a public school so your attempt to offer a counterpoint to a point that wasn’t even made is bizarre. The original post didn’t make mention of their belief in Satan but rather the separation of church and state. What point are you trying to make?

[@mariadamedecoeur]

@@evertvdb000 they worship Satan, yes they do

[@mayurshah6465]

Haha, I'm a conservative but this guy seemed like the only mature and rational one in the conversation. Jesse acted like an arrogant school bully with no idea what he was talking about.

[@hektorlitch4993]

He's a woke scumfuck. Don't get me wrong, Jesse is cringe though

[@TotsNater]

Why can't more conservatives be like you?

[@sekaiyoru01]

​@@TotsNater Because he's not a conservative lmao

[@quentinjalapeno1344]

@@sekaiyoru01 Are you saying conservatives by nature are intellectually inept?

[@Kaphriel1]

@@quentinjalapeno1344 yes

[@tigusvaton8406]

As a Christian I want other people to have the right to practice whatever they believe. If they are prohibited from freely practicing then potentially so could I and that is something I don't want.

[@Norcaldaddy]

Wait I thought Jesse was doing the grilling, not the other way around 😂😂

[@tubecated_development]

You thought the other guy was grilling? He was just defending

[@Norcaldaddy]

The satanists responses were so much of a burn to Jesse that yes, it was a reverse sear 😂

[@aln5832]

@@tubecated_developmentWatters got destroyed.

[@tubecated_development]

@@aln5832 Yes.

[@user-cs9hh8rx8x]

He let them grill him intentionally to promote them

[@Art_Martial]

He makes a good argument for not having any religious clubs at all in public schools

[@neophyte2688]

Lucien was great here, always on the higher ground , a class act while Jesse was acting like an unhinged Karen.

[@douglasgreninger110]

Your buddy is a lost little child.

[@PaulTheFranklin]

I didn't learn a lick about The Satanic Temple or After School Satan Clubs, but I now know what a terrible journalist Jesse Watters is. He came woefully ill-prepared and failed miserably at making a mockery of Greeves who would have been quite enlightening to listen to if Watters had any substantial questions to ask him.

[@Hosshoggbossdogg]

Ok satan boy

[@Xtreme.N]

STAY QUIET Devil Worshiper

[@thunderspark1536]

@@Xtreme.N Freedom of speech/religion is unfortunately the first amendment. Can't silence em.

[@misslady5754]

The satanic temple are not devil worshipers. They don't believe in it. They actually fight for justice. The church of Satan are devil worshipers. The temple challenges free speech.

[@samsca8529]

@@Hosshoggbossdogg Lmao c’mon man

[@barbariandunker]

This could be a great interview but the questions were a joke

[@daveh4925]

How much can you get out of a satanist who doesnt believe in satan - its childish and arrogant - evil is pedos - pedos are cool? no they are cringe evil cowards who speak only deception like its cool

[@christianhawley9549]

That’s because satanism is a joke😂

[@lCdGarcia]

🔷WORD🔷 All Jesse was thinking was ez$$$$

[@meghanmoore4871]

They were a joke because they love Satan too 💯

[@petterfuhre17]

Oh well. Jesse did ask, "what do I know?"

[@Sylar-upd4t3]

Example of a tenet: one should strive to act with compassion and empathy to each creature within reason. Waters: oh. That sounds fun. Graves: you might like it. Watters: I don’t know about all that. So he doesn’t think he’d like to act with compassion and empathy to all creatures within reason?

[@90sHONEY]

No he's a conservative Christian, and you know how the saying goes: There's no hate like Christian "love".

[@Sylar-upd4t3]

@@90sHONEY I actually have never heard that before but I like it.

[@demonhoopa]

“Grills?” Interesting grasp of reality by the intern who titled the video. I thought Waters got owned 🤣

[@kahlaka5426]

Jesse didnt grill anything. Lucian is a master level troll. I'd say this interview went about as pleasant as it could've.

[@syberphish]

Jesse couldn't grill a hamburger without someone giving him a script, he's not intelligent enough.

[@YOSSARIAN313]

He may be a troll but he isnt rude or mean spirited and it is really funny how conservatives lose their minds talking to him though

[@TheShannno]

Is Jesse capable of not being facetious for one minute of his life?

[@thomasdupont7186]

Facetious ? Like "facétieux" ? ^^I think he's super bitchy.

[@tubecated_development]

Doesn’t his income depend upon it.

[@RANDOMNATION907]

would you recognize it, if he did?

[@arlaux]

Only when he is slashing the tires of younger coworkers to entrap them.

[@anthonyporpora4786]

@arlaux , let me guess you are pro killing baby, of course let’s call Feta so we DEHUMANIZE a baby, ok! Now according to your logic if God exist He would have to stop you killing human life? And what exactly you asking God to do to stop doing evil and repent? Be vary careful may God patience be over !!!!!!!!

[@allentastic]

Is Jesse capable of having a discussion in good faith? All of his questions were leading/pointed. Lucien was poised and articulate. Everything he said Jesse had a strawman quip prepared. This really reminds me of that time Ben Shapiro got bodied on the BBC

[@jesseh.6808]

Watters had that look of "I didn't understand a single word you just said" on his face the whole time, just waiting to attempt a condescending insult any chance he got. If that's your game plan, at least come up with some better insults 😂 I'm neither Christian nor Satanic but I will say Greaves represented his stance much more gracefully and respectfully than Jesse. I'm a little sad to share the same name as that man lol

[@James-bs2jo]

They could have any class, any group. As a parent I decide where my children go and what they hear. It's the parents who are failing.

[@chrisclark1852]

Finally I've read hundreds of these comments and yours is the first one with actual logic

[@mccutchenfamily3357]

@@chrisclark1852 unless you have a child that decides to rebel against their raising

[@jrporter50]

@@mccutchenfamily3357 this does happen. You can only teach them, you can't learn it for them

[@monicadelisle]

all those parents should pull their kids out of that school

[@tystkanin9996]

@@monicadelisle Yes! Good riddance. They can go somewhere else that doesn't value the separation of church and state....like a private religious school.

[@juliusmerlino2027]

I love how Watters gets completely destroyed 😭

[@maxzorin9425]

Agreed... but it is surprising at the lack of background preparation. What a maroon! Bet you a booker is looking for work.

[@JohnSmith-qz4ki]

Destroyed???? Waters? REALLY???? That satanic idiot is a joke!!!He destroyed himself!Waters laughed at the moron's lack of intelligence the whole conversation!What,are you,deaf??????

[@maxzorin9425]

@@JohnSmith-qz4ki Really? What video did you watch?😂😂

[@maxzorin9425]

@@JohnSmith-qz4ki Well you are either a troll (Lame) or too stupid to cognitively process what you watched(LAME or SAD). So... either way, you have my sympathies, you poor sad little troll wanna be. On the bright side... you can only improve... You have a wonderful evening...

[@JohnSmith-qz4ki]

@@maxzorin9425 dude,you can't be serious!!!!But if you are, I feel plenty SORRY FOR YOU!!!(Shaking my head in disbelief!!!)

[@ARDG89]

"are you married by the way?" he says that like married people are the most superior human beings.

[@galactichand551]

This news segment was just a gimmick. Lucien got his point across politely and Jesse was acting like a condescending jerk.

[@SomeOne-gq4dy]

They bring this guy on EVERY YEAR 😂 and it’s always fun to watch.

[@KingAdrock420]

Although it's hilarious how he tends to make them look like idiots.

[@mike47734]

@@KingAdrock420 lol you’re talking about Jesse I hope lol or you’re completely delusional 😂

[@mike47734]

@@maxzorin9425 just completely dishonest lol we all can see how much of a fool Jesse made out of himself. He’s just trying to scare and manipulate you over literally nothing lolol

[@flashoftruth]

@@KingAdrock420 By "them" you mean "reporters" like Jesse right? Just want to clarify...

[@stickers11]

@@mike47734 If you seriously think jesse won that debate or whatever it was you are an asbolute moron. "Strive for compassion to all creatures" Jesse - so youre goin to hell right? REALLY BRO LMAO

[@theresarathell4686]

" The greatest trick the devil pulled was to make you believe he isn't real"

[@Stew282]

Think about that for a moment. It's a mildly cunning, but essentially simple linguistic trick. It's a self-licking lollipop. If you believe your statement, you must believe that the devil doesn't exist - so you can't believe your statement because if it were true, you wouldn't believe there is a devil to pull any tricks. If you believe the devil exists, then your statement is simply false. (if it were true, you wouldn't believe in a devil) If you don't believe the devil exists, it doesn't matter what you say about it!

[@TheresaPowers]

That is just a stupid line from the Usual Suspects. The Devil WANTS you to be his followers so what you posted is a lie.

[@Rocio36800]

🙏🙏🙏❤️

[@maryellengriffey5819]

The devil has been defeated before. Temptation and promises of everlasting life and knowledge Buffoons. God is the glory and all encompassing. Hate and ignorance is all the devil has.

[@maryellengriffey5819]

Kids that never grew up, heavy metal ouji board and lack of attention. Tomfoolery at its finest. Push back against the system in the smallest way possible through evil and idiocy.

[@GoldenOldies]

Where's the controversy? They always try to corner these guys, and end up just looking ignorant instead.

[@godschildyes]

It's all a show....

[@ebenemerson6358]

This is not a “grilling” this is a promotion

[@HoneyDrake]

Jesse doesn’t need a promotion. He’s the highest paid anchor on Fox. He makes 2 million a year.

[@tayloralexis1504]

Education system.. lost.. our country.. almost lost.. people's minds... Completely lost!!

[@johnjeckell1953]

How so? Because people can use their constitutional rights? How about the majority or gov just take away your religion, guns, or right to free speech? Would you like that, cheer online? No, you are a hypocrite, no better than the leftists you despise, which means you hate yourself and hate not being a dictator over free people who never harmed you in any way. Maybe study Buddhism, you seem like a terrible person.

[@tayloralexis1504]

@@johnjeckell1953 hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 🤣🤣🤭👉🤦😆😆😆

[@evertvdb000]

yes, Satan is the right way to go

[@johnjeckell1953]

@@tayloralexis1504 thank you for proving me correct. PS it was your cowardly, useless generation who made America what it is. Now you are obsolete compost. Dismissed

[@marionm5311]

You Forgot, SOULS LOST.

[@memyself6445]

honestly woulda been better had they actually gone more in depth with real debate..

[@syberphish]

But Jesse wasn't capable of that, so it didn't happen. I've no doubt Lucien could have done so if he were given the opportunity.

[@Solus3D]

Is FOX, isn't a place for a real debate. They are just like CNN, but worst.

[@jamesdoakes4956]

What debate? There isn’t even any debate. Jesse is for freedom of speech except he’s not for full free speech except he is for full free speech because he says he’s for full free speech when speaking on Jan 6th but then he’s not when he speaks on equal free speech because he’s not actually for free speech because his debate would be against it. So what kind of sense does any of that make? And if you think it would have been a good debate, you’re either low iq and can’t comprehend hypocrisy or you’re a bot

[@NotThatGuyPal.]

Jesse was just throwing little school yard insults the whole time.

[@joecalbery1919]

Jesse is probably a part of a far more despicable club than Lucien, nothing but trying to make light of the whole topic, deflection. Pathetic "controlled opposition". Had they actually debated, Lucien would have made Jesse look like a fool on his own show. (and Jesse knew it)

[@Conspirachu]

"Are you married" says the dude who cheated on his wife hahaha

[@henryeinkles7151]

More like Jesse Walter embarrassed himself on live tv

[@kodiakbearsteve4646]

We are in those end of times. Where people see evil as good and good as evil.

[@thehardertheyfall2702]

Facts also I can't see 👀A Spotless bride too which is SAD. So ponder on that.

[@evertvdb000]

i see a cat like a dog, and a car as a tv, is that good too?

[@markymarc12]

Right on the money

[@MakeAsylumsGre4tAgain]

@@thehardertheyfall2702 He has reserved thousands who have not bent their knee. Don’t worry, you will see her unveiled soon enough.

[@az-yq3rk]

@@thehardertheyfall2702 ,what does that mean?

[@dnwiebe]

I remember back when we had parents. Remember parents? They used to decide what their children did and didn't do. Now we have schools deciding that, while the adults run in circles, flap their hands, and shriek.

[@TheUniverseWorksForUsBeings]

Or when the parents do stand up they are labeled terrorists, and minimized or jailed.

[@dnwiebe]

@@supraxlr808 Good! Go for it. That "most parents are idiots" crap is how you get Republican governors elected in blue states. Tell us more!

[@dnwiebe]

@@TheUniverseWorksForUsBeings If my children were still young enough to be in government school, and a Satan Club started, I wouldn't fly off the handle, and I wouldn't yell at anybody, and I wouldn't threaten anything. My children simply wouldn't have anything to do with the Satan Club, that's all. Now, if a teacher or administrator tried to influence my child to join the Satan Club, _then_ there would be an incident. (Still no handle-flying or yelling or threatening.)

[@Demonoicgamer666]

@@dnwiebe if I’m ever a parent I want to have to explain why to do and why not to do certain things? I don’t want a robot who thinks the should follow rules until they get a house, I want them to think before they follow my rules cause it’s no good following rules you have a problem with.

[@RobotronSage]

don't blame the parents ffs the schools probably keep them uninformed whilst they indoctrinate they children.

[@guudbyenme3399]

Man, Fox News, "you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

[@ianburkhill2072]

The title of this video is click bait right? I mean, your host is receiving the grilling. Lucian is highly intelligent whereas Jesse…..well what can I say 🤷🏻‍♂️ He should have done his homework 😂

[@tubecated_development]

Jesse Watters ‘Wadoo I know?’ That was some brief self reflection

[@petterfuhre17]

Ya, and the most profound question of the whole "grilling"

[@jamesking7330]

Imagine if Jesse woke up and realized how bad a person he really is.

[@tubecated_development]

@@jamesking7330 That will never happen. Such narcissism, fakeness and greed excludes such possibilities as self-reflection and honesty.

[@danieljackson7652]

If you're trying to represent the opposite of what Lucien is promoting, being condescending is probably not the best approach. But let's not forget that understanding his point of view was never the point here.

[@syberphish]

This is lost on so, so many people.

[@lockandloadlikehell]

The stupid old collectivist anti liberty boomers that watch fox are as stupid and clueless as the collectivist SJWs that worship CNN and MSDNC- same low IQ, uniformed, collectivist, anti American, pro socio-fascist garbage 🗑

[@syberphish]

@@lockandloadlikehell truth

[@smokyquartz5817]

By and large Christians like condescending though. They want to treat their religion like wrestle mania.

[@lastans18]

Jesse: "hey, what do I know?'' Indeed!

[@dylanfolkner9540]

Jesse Watters, winner of the spineless worm award every year since his birth, displaying his remarkable abilities to lose at everything he does.

[@remowilliams7569]

"All that is needed for evil to flourish is for good to stand by and do nothing."

[@nathanlansford1882]

And God is the ultimate author of all evil.

[@robinchemin3631]

@@nathanlansford1882 "NOT"

[@truthwarrior1489]

@@nathanlansford1882 no evil whatsoever exists in God. I’d highly recommend you study the Bible.

[@truthwarrior1489]

DJT = AC

[@darrennew8211]

That's one of the satanist tenants. ;-)

[@Bropes]

He made Jesse look like a clown 😂

[@maxzorin9425]

Please be fair. Sure the guy made jesse look like a clown... but he had a lot of help who did all the real work... Thanks Jesse for all the help

[@mike47734]

@@maxzorin9425 no lol he made Jesse look like a fool. The only purpose of this satanic temple is to give evangelicals a taste of their own medicine when they violate the principles of separation of church and state as well as freedom of speech and expression. That’s all it is...they’re atheists.

[@gravytopic]

Jesse needs no help with that.

[@darknessahhh]

He really did😂 there’s a lot of ❄️ in these comments.

[@atheistangel007]

@@darknessahhh If by "snowflakes" you mean _completely clueless theists,_ then yep.

[@victorianlover3328]

As I've said before, I don't think any religious groups should be going on in school, on school grounds, or after school clubs.

[@digidragon02]

"One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason." "I don't know about all that" You sure bro? It's pretty easy to understand

[@scottyo2490]

JF failed that interview. That's a pretty serious topic to discuss and he just giggled for a few minutes and said that's all the time we have

[@myviewduh3766]

I agree but I think he was trying to portray was that what they're doing is a joke to even attempt it.

[@scottyo2490]

@@myviewduh3766 If they are actually in the school recruiting, then it goes beyond a joke or something to be made fun of. Pretty serious stuff

[@edwardrodriguez9140]

He definitely failed normally he’s complaining about lack of following the constitution and now he wants to be censoring and join in the denial of the constitution. Is Jesse going Democratic?

[@myviewduh3766]

@@scottyo2490 Oh yes I totally agree with you it is a serious issue. I was thinking the way he handled interview as a joke and stupid. With today society and younger generation media plays a big role in the way people think so hopefully they see it as stupid and will not take part in it and dismiss the issue of even allowing it into schools today or in the future

[@scottyo2490]

@@edwardrodriguez9140 JW never said it shouldn't be allowed

[@meatman666]

Jesse gives off the vibe of the kid that was always picked last for everything.

[@burlong01]

* me showing up to the video with my plate * "I was told there would be grilling?"

[@mikedeus2712]

You dropped the ball on that one Jesse

[@alephmale3171]

I’ve always felt that the Satanic Temple guy was really just an actor and that Fox is in on it and uses him for slow days. He and Jesse have had this same conversation several times, I’m sure of it.

[@remowilliams7569]

Totally agree. This was done almost as a joke. This subject is far too serious to be so casual and tongue-in-cheek.

[@1daveyp]

@@alephmale3171 I don't know about the collusion, but you're right about the acting, or at least cosplay nature of "Satanism". Right back to Anton Le Vey it was basically a mishmash of libertarianism and theatre.

[@ilsleyrobert7525]

This is Jesse now a cocky frat boy elitist. I stopped watching him a while ago. He really showed himself in this segment. I do not support satanism but this guy was well spoken and seemed very educated.

[@GibDozer1]

@@remowilliams7569 The subject is a joke, "we worship the boogeyman". Such a whatever, intentionally butchering the guys silly made up name was almost as childish as the name itself... This is news? Save these "bunk" stories for October... I'm sure there are legitimate Satanic zealots who are dangerous, though not nearly as dangerous as their religious counterparts. The Imbeciles are few and far between on either side though. Most people are smart enough to know that NO ONE REALLY KNOWS.

[@maxzorin9425]

He should have offered to go on a date when Jesse asked if he was married. 😂😂

[@ayshamccubbins7552]

That would’ve been perfect

[@shilohstout5152]

Coffee tomorrow?

[@energizerburrito9537]

As soon as the reporter wasn’t getting what he wanted out of Lucien it was on to the next point to try to make him look bad 😂

[@Bz23718]

Wow Jesse really didn't have much to say to this guy.

[@rustyrichmond4710]

Did you notice the Satan spokesman for the temple doesn't want to go to hell? Well parents don't want their children to go to hell either. I can't believe I live in a time where I'm actually seeing this. I think it's time that everybody realizes there's a line being drawn in the sand and you better be on the right side with your kids.

[@CaptainFantastic222]

He said he doesnt believe a hell exists. Because that would be intellectually offensive

[@stoopidpursun8140]

I would much rather send my kids to a Satanist club than a Christian one.

[@Cj-qt2ls]

Well he is going to hell😇

[@JamminClemmons]

**rustyrichmond,** You're in attendance with us as well? Welcome aboard, rusty. There was the time I died and was banished to Hades. For my never-ending mocking I leashed upon him, Satan released me back to this *purgatory* (your planet, Earth). What's the reason YOU'RE caged in this unforgiving entrapment?

[@TheRetroManRandySavage]

@@CaptainFantastic222 he's gonna find out the hard way.🔥👹🔥

[@mrsb6611]

This world needs a deep cleanse with all the weird crap that has been going on these past few years. It's getting worse by the day!

[@burlong01]

Friendly reminder that the only way Jesse Watters managed to meet his now wife was by destroying her personal property so he would have an excuse to talk to her.

[@TdotSoul]

I'm a lifelong Christian, and you real came across as a knuckle dragger in that interview Jesse.

[@godschildyes]

Jesse and Lucien were acting out a scripted part. They both work for the same master.

[@manchesterunited9576]

"Grills" lmao looks like he was just making fun of you Jesse

[@AtifAli-dc6cr]

If that was grilling then this is a sausage that Jesse grilled 🐖

[@NotThatGuyPal.]

Jesse got smoked

[@edthomas2283]

I don’t think Jesse got the better of that exchange…

[@GreyCrowe]

Is Jesse Watters a short man? Because a lot seems to go over his head.

[@hansblitz7770]

They did pick the perfect demon for their spokesman. Kudos on the optics.

[@Grimetx]

I’m sure he will take that as a compliment, at least he is not a sheep. HS

[@isabellalive2.081]

A little more sexy than some greasy dude with a cape & a come over. Lucian For President!!!

[@mariadamedecoeur]

@@Grimetx yes he is, a sheep for Satan!

[@balung]

Lucifer, sorry Lucian.

[@vincegoupil]

I love it when, through media manipulation, people discover truths that are as old as the world. The first wizard who conjured up supernatural power must have called skeptics Satanists (or some equivalent term)!

[@SilentTank4767]

Jesse just did little 5 year old jabs. Like a toddler thinking he runs the playground

[@Andrew66632]

He’s like a jerk off uncle who all the aunts want as my role model and mentor. Despite the fact I can’t stand him. “Ask him to be your mentor. Tell him. BE MY MENTOR.” And all the disagreeing and solid stance I take against him or them is dismissed as the devil. Yet the cousins and all of them can be disagreeing.

[@SilentTank4767]

@@Andrew66632 ok. It's not the disagreeing, it's that he laughed at his responses so why ask? He kept the face of a smug child, and intentionally messed up a easy name. Why even do the interview and not give it to someone else or why take it if you just do that. The news is what it is but bare minimum, very unprofessional. It's not something people like and that's known but you have to lose all sense of professionalism and disregard everything even though he explained it carefully? People say no and that's fine but that was below petty

[@cmwHisArtist]

Yet a couple of people complaining about prayer and 10 commandments in school were enough, in a “democracy “ to shut it down.

[@luisgarcia-chow3652]

Does that caption really say Jesse Watters grills this guy? Because that can't be FARTHER than the truth.

[@mrwaddlekirby]

The irony of starting the topic of by saying "after school clubs are meant to broader your horizons" and then straight away totally disregarding this specific club as legitimate. Talk about an open mind from Jesse...

[@kaitlinski493]

Satan takes away. He does not "broaden" anything.

[@Nopety-Nope]

Having a Satanist after school club is so open minded their brains completely fell out and into dog crap.

[@hoodootheclown929]

@@kaitlinski493 Satanist do not necessarily believe in Satan. They use Satan as a symbol against the brainwashing methodology of organized religion. Satan isn't a person, an angel or a demon. Satan is the urge of temptation within us all. That voice within you that tells you to choose pleasure over morals. Human instinct.

[@raunchybarbados4565]

@@kaitlinski493 Satan sure does! Satan took away my fear of an angry sky daddy and opened my mind.😘

[@dakotasmith8925]

@@kaitlinski493 Well said, that is exactly what my pedophilic catholic priest always told me.

[@About600Ewoks]

Grills? Really. That's the choice of word used to describe this? Pretty sure I saw this host actually agreeing with one of our seven Tenants.

[@chrisdobry1305]

The funny part is is you can't celebrate Christmas or pray to God or anything else you can't have a Jesus club so this is sick on so many levels

[@marclewis1199]

My sons school is normal. They have Christmas concerts and all. It’s a republican school.

[@hersheywalker6447]

@@marclewis1199 so his teacher touches him with MAGA mittens? 😂

[@noahtalley4351]

What? You know that FCA is in schools right? Don’t give us BS like that!

[@louminarty]

@@marclewis1199 the kids are republicans? 😂🤣

[@Capitalismrules]

@@marclewis1199 Indoctrination ?

[@matthewfarner2768]

It’s so hard to own Lucien. Whether or not you like him, he’s logical and has several good points around religious liberty and hypocrisy of the larger religious institutions.

[@sekaiyoru01]

Your right to "religious liberty" is ceded when you try to groom innocent children into your cult

[@MunchyButt]

I love when the interviewee is more intelligent than the interviewer.

[@thecheddar7835]

Say that when you go behind bars with a dude that hates pedos and bunk beds with him .

[@MunchyButt]

@@thecheddar7835 is this something you have experience with? Do you bunk with men who hate pedos?

[@thecheddar7835]

@@MunchyButt Obviously you support them .

[@flashoftruth]

@@thecheddar7835 Why shouldn't we?

[@Fang1241]

@@thecheddar7835 I pity you because you're dumb

[@markbajek2541]

If you read their 7 tenents , it's sort of a mix between Libertarian and Democratic platforms (they even ask that you follow the science)

[@vincegoupil]

I love it when, through media manipulation, people discover truths that are as old as the world. The first wizard who conjured up supernatural power must have called skeptics Satanists (or some equivalent term)!

[@justsomeuser5123]

Can't mention that to the Christian's.

[@agnimoraitidi1770]

How else can they jab you with the number?

[@robertpreston2220]

The Satanic Temple HATES Trump. yet they love the democrats. that says it all

[@CaptainFantastic222]

All seven are pretty reasonable. They are more moral than the 10 commandments

[@marioandultrachap]

"Parents raise hell over Satan club" Quite literally I may add

[@HoneyDrake]

It is because Satan is the enemy of God and has no place in school.

[@jafarhabib2525]

I thought freedom of speech and religion were part of the American bill of rights. Or does the constitution only protect gun ownership rights and rioting..or does the constitution only protect certain rights for certain people when its convenient for them?

[@MikeDunn]

This is way more serious than this segment implies. Seems harmless on the surface, which is exactly how the devil works.

[@syberphish]

This has nothing to do with the devil, and the true depth of this topic has gone far, far over your head. You cant claim we're a country of free speech and religious freedoms, then ban any speech or "religion" you don't agree with. It's exactly the point these people are making. They're calling out the hypocrisy of American's who claim one thing but in truth have double standards. True freedom of speech and religion covers more than just the speech and religion YOU agree with. Otherwise you're talking out both sides of your mouth, and these people realize it. All they're doing is making a useful idiot of that hypocrisy. That's why they aren't actually claiming to be "evil" or to worship the devil or any of that nonsense. If parents are truly modelling Christ's image in their households, their children would have no interest in "Satanism club". The reason parents are afraid, is cuz most of them are the "lukewarm" ones who will be "spit from His mouth", and their children know it. Parents who aren't *really* walking the walk hope that church and other religious venues will do the work of raising their children that they should be doing. If children wanted to model their parents behaviors and everyone truly had the freedom to choose what religion they want to follow without persecution from anyone... this "Satanist" group wouldn't even exist. They're exposing the hypocrisy of the lukewarm Christian who also doesn't *actually* believe in free speech and religious freedom for all. And that's most of you in this thread at this point. If kids ONLY have one choice of what religion to follow, they don't actually have freedom of religion. And if we actually believe in freedom of speech, we're required to let them have their say. They're just weeding out all the liars and making it incredibly obvious which is which.

[@hfrt29]

Truth

[@syberphish]

If you bothered going to their website and reading their FAQ, you'd realize they have ZERO to do with devil worship or satan, and do not associate themselves in any way with those actual practices. They're a "devil's advocacy" group, exposing hypocrisy at both the civil legal and religious levels. And they did exactly that here. The way the devil works is by lukewarm christians not realizing they're lukewarm christians, thinking they're actually on the path to salvation when they're really on the path to hell. That most christians haven't figured that out is absolutely mind boggling. There's about 6 people out of hundreds in this comment section showing God's love in response, the rest are filled with rage and hatred, afraid that their ego's are being challenged.

[@ar-sithf.austin3744]

These fools are fake and a joke. Completely. Don't even give them the time of day.

[@soso-mx8nb]

Exactly. This is what many don't understand. They will say oh no satanism isn't about Satan worship it's about good morals, independence, questioning religion any bs to distract from the reality that some people actually worship Satan, and sacrifice to him. Or when people talk about music videos etc, how satanic imagry is normalized in media, they say it's just artistic. Isn't it interesting SO many artists especially rap artists gravitate towards Satan? Oh just a coincidence....

[@rigavitch]

How disingenuous I was an ex satanist and things were DARK! DARRRRRRK! Thank God I escaped! ☦🙏🏼♥

[@truegemrn]

Amen!

[@drag0nchampi0n]

Satanist? or Atheist? There is a difference...

[@richardgillette5759]

Come back to Satan. He is waiting

[@nancyany5222]

If people truly understood satan,lucifer,prince of darkness,fallen angel they would never want anything to do with him..

[@giannitata9880]

Empathy and compassion, and also lying,

[@lordmanos9442]

Somebody forgot to light the grill?

[@MCsCreations]

People from Fox should get to know better about this temple thing before trying to interview them.

[@donlightbody8270]

that guy was looking at me AND Jesse at the same time 🤣

[@BettyWhite2171]

Lol

[@robertovalero6186]

When somebody rings his neighbours doorbell then he opens the door.

[@Christpuncher138]

Cool, lets just mock peoples appearance. Super mature

[@charleyjohnson4823]

Standing on Wednesday looking at both weekends.

[@ju4408]

He took gun safety lessons from Elmer "Stewart" Rhodes.

[@DevenD30]

He didn't grill him lmao

[@DanielDunn1222]

He was certainly trying but this Satanist was playing the good guy role vs perhaps another Satanist type that would be saying very different things

[@kingmonde]

@@DanielDunn1222 all of them are like this guy. None of them are actually evil or stupid.

[@michaelmaage]

@@DanielDunn1222 You should look up what TST are actually about. They are fighting for your constitutional rights, like freedom of speech and religious freedom.

[@lowercase21]

@@kingmonde sure..

[@bobvid7791]

POOR FELLOW IS LINING UP HIS OWN GRILLING --- GONNA BE A LONG HOT ONE ALSO.

[@bgaona]

That was probably a little too civil for everyone's comfort.

[@TommyGun1979]

I wouldn't call this a grilling

[@333Hitgirl]

The Satan guy seemed like he stayed calm and Jesse was unhinged. Just an observation. He didn’t seem like he couldn’t logically explain his side.

[@nathanlansford1882]

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these *things* ."--Isaiah 45:7.

[@agnimoraitidi1770]

I'd feel very uncomfortable talking to a guy who represents Satan as well. What do we have in common with him to be able to chat ? You're looking at evil directly in the eye. Who wants to do that without cringing ?

[@agnimoraitidi1770]

@@romeo8334 ... Who cares what happens to them when they had a choice and they chose hell willingly ? As long as they stay away from our children they can go to hell whenever it suits them.

[@Muttinchopsforeverandalways]

@@romeo8334 If Heaven is dirt we are all surely going there .Be safe and well .

[@josecala4164]

@@romeo8334 how do you know your heaven even exists? On what basis you disregard the fact they think they are going to heaven?

[@AeroMetalRush]

The media has never faced repercussions for the lies it has spread to the public. Someone needs to hold them accountable

[@evertvdb000]

yea, you do it!

[@AeroMetalRush]

@@evertvdb000 Okay I'm going to start holding you accountable then John Balnis

[@emreakkaya6400]

@@AeroMetalRush dumb pig

[@Capitalismrules]

" Satan is evil ! Imagine a guy completely submerging the entire earth underwater . Oh wait , that was me " - GOD

[@louminarty]

@@Capitalismrules "satan is evil!" I imagine him killing the first born sons of Egypt... Oh wait...

[@aproverbshome173]

Hell is real weather you believe it or not and there is no party!

[@ElectricalMonk3558]

Hell IS NOT real whether you believe it or not.

[@mikenonhuman1335]

What's happening today is what most religions told us would happen to this world!!!

[@f0rml3ss]

I remember this guy... he was mad that a city put up a Christian nativity scene, so he got a Satanist statue erected near it to protest it. He was even on Fox way back.

[@syberphish]

And somehow, the people who have a problem with that don't realize they've just exposed themselves as hypocrites who don't actually believe in freedom of speech or religion. Only if its THEIR speech and THEIR religion. This group has nothing to do with the devil, they're all about exposing hypocrisy, and it looks like there's plenty out there to expose.

[@f0rml3ss]

@syberphish I don't necessarily disagree. I understand the point. If you are going to let the state make a scene for one religion, you then have to allow others to do the same. My views have changed a lot over the years. I've gone further to the right, or more accurately, the world has gone further to the left and left me behind. I'm an atheist, so I don't have the same fear of the "devil" as Christians might. However, I understand them being worried about their kids learning about Satan.

[@apachewraith]

Yes he's been calling out double standards for a long time. He understands the bill of rights better than the politicians we pay $200k a year who don't.

[@CaptainFantastic222]

@@f0rml3ss The Satanic Temple is non-theistic. They dont actually believe in the devil because that would of course be ridiculous

[@arlaux]

@@f0rml3ss understand the fear of Christians…. Learning about Satan? That’s kinda a major part of the religion my guy gotta learn about Satan eventually.

[@velazquez1281]

While I am myself a Christian, I felt the way Jesse handled this interview was rather disrespectful. Not professional in any way. Just laughing at the guy the whole way through. Probably safe to say that Jesse is not a Christian and finds this silly, but there is nothing silly about this

[@erra7552]

It's good to know there's real Christians who value respect and civility still around. I'm atheist, but i have great respect for those Christians who actually practice the teachings of Christ (charity, empathy, respect). It's a rare thing to see these days. Merry Christmas.

[@Demonoicgamer666]

I think if they aren’t forcing it into classes or the government like republicans do with Christianity and they are following the law they should have the right to practice there beliefs

[@hansslane7080]

It's silly as any new religion.

[@margricks]

What show were you watching? I watched it and didn't get that vibe at all. Wow.

[@papworktv5]

I totally disagree, the figure satan wouldn't exist for anyone if they didn't read it from the bible first, so this guy has literally taken satan out of the bible formed a religion around it and said satan is good, when the bible is clear satan is pure evil, why should this man have the right to teach this to children? If everyone should have the right to freedom of speech then why don't we let murderers and rapists teach also? satan has always clearly been a figure depicted as a murderer a sexually immorall sick and wicked figure, of the purest of evil, You don't get to change the terms around what is morally right, what is right must always be put before someone's feelings, otherwise killers and all sorts will end up with equal rights.

[@AChambyrs]

I. One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II. The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III. One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV. The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V. Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI. People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII. Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word. These are the Tenets of the Satanic Temple.

[@VAL3NTIN3]

As a Christian and republican, i disagree with this. Religion should be free. Even though it doesn't fall with what you believe in. All we can do is pray for them and hope they find the light

[@DemographyNow]

Ignoring them is probably your best bet

[@DaciWoo]

Why does Fox keep interviewing him? He's running through hosts, making them look stupid

[@Michael-et2uj]

The Satanic Temple is basically just the Unitarian Universalist “church” with spooky Halloween costumes.

[@truthwarrior1489]

Trump supporters should like it, yeah?

[@CaptainFantastic222]

They are just separation of church and state activists

[@Efithb]

You mean vil Gates church.

[@daveh4925]

They are anti religion and therefore anti God, so if they believe there is no God then isnt the mission successful? Why would the decievers care if people believe in God?

[@syberphish]

5 replies, but 3 were silenced by "christians" who can't stand anyone discussing something they don't want discussed. Cuz at the end of the day, the far right and the far left use the exact same tactics.

[@jaseplet5657]

My grandmother always told me.. "They think Hell is going to be one big party. Just pray for them."

[@kingmonde]

Heaven is going to be church every hour of every day for all eternity, I think I would much rather live in hell.

[@michaelsmith2733]

@@kingmonde Your wrong about Heaven and Hell. You need to repent.

[@MyMysaysFU]

@@kingmonde hmmm….going to worship all day, or giving head to all the dead all day. I’ll take church dude! 🤔

[@Rain-yh9ws]

Its past time to pray for these people bc they have become a part of every faucet in the world. It's time to boycott & stand up against the pervasive amount of evil that is no longer subliminal but in our face.

[@kingmonde]

@@michaelsmith2733 No, it is you that is wrong. The Bible says the earth is flat, therefore it's all a lie. How can god get the shape of the earth wrong unless it was a book written by people pretending to be speaking to god.

[@tylove7992]

Jesse: "I'm not owned, I'm not owned, I'm not owned..."

[@LEMONedOblaat]

Jesse spent more time flirting with him than asking questions...we get it Jesse he's very handsome move along.

[@jasonsworld333]

I definitely agree with the point some parents think the same thing about Evangelical clubs. It's also extremely shitty of Jesse to try to definitely criticize his religious liberty. Like it or not this guy's right in his own beliefs. That being said the debate is still there, should it be allowed in school. And I say yes, knowledge doesn't hurt people. People hurt people.

[@PennywiseTheDancingClown274]

So why teach them this then? You do realize what the commandments are right and not going with the tweaked version of the one he said on air? If you think it's morally wrong to step on someone's neck just get slightly ahead... If you look into it it's more about being a immoral opportunist. It's a selfish degrading belief system and if you had any problems with some of what God said like stoning a certain group you would hate what satanists say... Please do your research and not just off of one website Don't ask a mole to fly and an eagle to burrow.... It's like a priest teaching atheism

[@jasonsworld333]

@@PennywiseTheDancingClown274 if you want to call that tweaked. But his right to do that is just as valid as yours is. He believes he's doing what's right, and so is Jesse. But only one is being rude and condescending. Maybe Jesse could realize the reasons why, if he didn't bring them to criticize. Not to mention it isn't forced like CRT it's a choice. I used to be a satanist exclusively to be against Christianity. A Levayen Satanist is definitely a immortal opportunist, but a theistic Satanist not so much. Just like Christians hate pagans, when really they hold quite a little margin on the right, but the only reason they give is they don't believe in a Christian version of God, even though the Abrahamic religions are an extension of pre Abrahamic beliefs as professed by the Bible.

[@jasonsworld333]

Also America isn't a Christian country, it's a religious freedom country. I don't see anyone fighting against Sunday School for children either. My point being there is another perspective than just Christian.

[@PennywiseTheDancingClown274]

@@jasonsworld333 that's like saying Adolf was bad but Stalin "not so much" and to say it's a choice to defend this is ridiculous lots of things are a choice but we don't condone most choices because of the harm it causes... That's how you get radicals who just because they want to protest something join a cult that likes to mask selfish intentions by twisting words like most other "religions" and to join something blindly to spite something is just hypocritical in the end when it comes to religion at least

[@PennywiseTheDancingClown274]

@@jasonsworld333 because Sunday school is meant and a separate system than the public schools that do the 5 days a week lol. Yes there are other perspectives than Christian and clearly your blind to them by your bias assuming mine is Christian when it's coming from an atheist stand point.... Thank you for helping prove my point