Jessica Henwick & Simu Liu || Character Conversations

Simu Liu from Marvel's "Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings" and Jessica Henwick from Warner Bros' "The Matrix Resurrections" met up at the 19th Unforgettable Gala to reflect on their acting roots, the pressures of stardom and more.
Featuring:
Jessica Henwick / jhenwick
“The Matrix Resurrections” • The Matrix Resurrectio...
Simu Liu / simuliu
“Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings” • Marvel Studios’ Shang-...
Director: Francis Ray Rettinger
Producer: Audrey Ryu
Director of Photography: Alan Chung
Camera Operators: Chalisa Phiboolsook, Christopher Velarde, Joyce Chang
Sound Mixer: David Alvarez
Video Editor: Joyce Chang
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00- 00:59 On Anglicized Stage Names
1:47 Jessica Henwick on Choosing Between Roles
3:47 Simu Liu on Shaun and Katie's Relationship
4:30 Reflecting on Defining Career Moments
5:50 On Balancing Public Life and Private Life
7:10 Simu Liu on "Kim's Convenience"
8:50 On Asians Doing Martial Arts in Media
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[@robotsex111]

I love both these people. Shang Chi was such a delight, and Simu was so good in it. Likewise for Matrix Resurrections. I really enjoyed the film, and Jessica's character Bugs was easily the best new addition. They both have a bright future ahead of them.

[@kelvinmathew6076]

Matrix Resurrections sucked big time.

[@Cangaca777]

Didn't watch Shang-Chi yet. loved the new Matrix, very clever and smooth sequel!

[@joeygonzo]

@@Cangaca777 didn't watch, not watched

[@ultimatezeno3449]

Bugs was great. Love her character.

[@wa-bu3ke]

@@kelvinmathew6076 Yeah but she would have had a tiny role if she did Shang Chi

[@dhineshsasidaran4310]

Jessica Henwick is such an underrated acctress. She basically carried the Iron Fist series on her shoulders.

[@MotorCityPhoenix313]

Completely agree. Jessica was 100% the only good thing in that train wreck of a show.

[@johnpolanco2616]

I liked Ward too

[@2gatsuuga]

She really did cause Finn was trash

[@cheekyboomboom8973]

Yessss, she 100% carried that show -- the only actor/character from it I really wanna see back in the MCU.

[@scootle74]

This. So much This. Other than Jessica, that show was a disaster.

[@agentz0613]

Simu uses the word "assets & liabilities". He really is an accountant 😅

[@nithinravi4401]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Optimusprime809]

Haha that old life will haunt him forever XD

[@samukings3138]

Accounting is boring

[@hmw4166]

@@samukings3138 But it's needed and useful

[@szewei85]

Haha i left Accounting 10 years ago and i glad i did

[@snakecharm5966]

Marvel needs to give Jessica a big starring role. She deserves it, how she gives life to underwhelming projects.

[@theam6020]

True , she was the best part of the iron fist and matrix ressurections.

[@LordStaind]

I couldn't agree more. Was gonna comment and saw yours. She has so much talent and would definitely be awesome in the next Shang Chi movie or any Marvel role.

[@hermesjumanji2284]

She’s Colleen Wing cause the marvel shows are now in the MCU

[@lightup6751]

Honestly. She likely wants to be cast in something more demanding than a marvel or flick movie. The movies are fun dont get me wrong. But typically not what actors consider their ambition or wanna be remembered by.

[@yolandagumede3456]

I love their chemistry. I want them in a modern day rom-com together.

[@tankshot3256]

Love triangle with Henry Golding

[@user-hw8zg8zo1v]

And she was asked for a audition to be his sister...

[@har5814]

She could be in Shang-chi, but she chose to be in the Matrix 4 instead.

[@pooglechen3251]

Shang chi 2! Jessica shows up and Simu has to choose between Jess or Katy! 😋😋

[@shivamjaiswal439]

That's not a bad idea.

[@danf8047]

Simu has this amazing ability to talk to people and connect, his interviews are never boring, that's called charm and this man will go far imo.

[@eduardoarmenta9232]

Since the very first interview I saw of him I noticed that... This guy is going places.

[@Buckheimer]

@@eduardoarmenta9232 he is already at those places my guy. Lets keep him there! He deserves everything

[@JR-ju3kj]

It's charm AND it's charisma. Some people have it and some people just don't.I always say that I think that a lot of things can be taught but that I don't think charisma is one of them-again,you either have it or you don't.

[@anthonygarcia3922]

I hope she returns to Marvel, I think she did great in iron fist and I think she has potential for a greater role.

[@elvensmack3333]

if she returns I accept the return only as Colleen. Her being someone else...that would be just fuxkin sad

[@angelquiles9381]

Absolutely, she is amazing.

[@kingmanic]

@@elvensmack3333 She is oddly perfect of Leiko Wu, but now the precedent is set it's likely she'd go back as Colleen.

[@FuzzyVids]

Well the door has been opened

[@har5814]

That season 2 cliffhanger of Iron fist. Hope she returns as Coleen.

[@cyphus5]

Based on their chemistry, she would've definitely gotten the role in Shang-Chi. They need to bring Colleen Wing back into the MCU. Simu, help make that happen.

[@reubenfelix2028]

She kinda indirectly is (iron fist)

[@lightup6751]

Honestly. She likely wants to be cast in something more demanding than a marvel movie. The movies are fun dont get me wrong. But not what 99% of all actors consider their ambition.

[@Optimusprime809]

They've just met but they speak as if they've been friends for years! Simu is just too overpowered man, can't hate the guy! And Jess is a gem as always.

[@UKnowWhoIAm_1]

damn she’s been in almost everything Game of Thrones, Star Wars, Iron Fist/Defenders & now Matrix. All she needs now is a role in a DC movie

[@1world2coexist]

Yup, she said it, she hustles for the next job.

[@4fawksake707]

i wanna see her in The Witcher 😁

[@starr0401]

Might as well get on Star Trek too

[@zZiL341yRj736]

Is that all know? How about Love and Monsters, Underwater.

[@JR-ju3kj]

She should be in the planned G.I. Joe reboot that's supposed to follow the Snake-Eyes movie,too.

[@nronald139]

I like Jessica. She should be in shang chi 2.

[@Karma_tky]

Totally agree

[@elvensmack3333]

but only as Colleen

[@cybustermod]

Hope she comeback as immortal Ironfist like from Ironfist ss2

[@FuzzyVids]

@@cybustermod I mean the show left it there so why not!

[@sirmarshall9521]

Her being the MCU Iron Fist? I wouldn't be mad at it.

[@LeeMubai33]

I think we will see Colleen and Shang together on screen eventually. Their chemistry is off the charts.

[@dreamin_between]

Yeah who needs Danny Rand anyway

[@thatrandomcomment968]

@@dreamin_between right? Nobody.

[@thatrandomcomment968]

Would be amazing if Fiege put Colleen to be the oficial Iron Fist in the MCU. Jessica deserves that so much.

[@kermitbq]

have shangchi accidentally killed danny rand in shangchi 2… there you go fiege

[@TheSomeawesome]

@@thatrandomcomment968 Colleen is basically the Iron Fist by the end of season 2, so that's honestly the logical way to move forward.

[@krysisstorm2703]

I think Simu and Jessica would make a great movie together. They have very good chemistry. Maybe a romantic comedy?

[@davidn.3017]

yea, i could watch them talk about stuffs for hours, it's entertaining, the personalities just click and they seem understand each other well.

[@lieutenantkettch]

Have Shang Chi guest in a Daughters of the Dragon series episode.

[@Exarkun77]

Am I the only one want to see these two end up together?

[@satinsolstice]

Damn within the first 20 seconds you can feel their chemistry is off the charts

[@simpanneton]

I would have watched an hour of this, easy. Both these actors are fantastic and I hope they get to make something together some day...

[@Superion74]

Jessica Henwick is such a beautiful and talented actress. I really hope her character Colleen Wing will make her way into MCU, specifically with Simu's Shang Chi, because Marvel can use her amazing performance once again.

[@Swenglish]

If she just turned up at Xialing's place, she wouldn't even need an introduction for people who didn't watch the Netflix shows. It's such a natural fit. She's been in an underground fighting ring before. She's an enhanced fighter. The audience can infer how they might know each other, and there's a super easy reason to establish her powers. Like, here she is, she's a fighter, she's got powers, the rest will fall into place as needed. Then it's just a matter of letting the audience get to know the character like they would any other character who doesn't have those elements.

[@har5814]

If only her character returns in MCU like Kingpin and Matt Murdock.

[@davidn.3017]

probably not, that Iron Fist show is very bad, hopefully she return to play different character.

[@Swenglish]

@@davidn.3017 Season 1 was weak. Not because of her character. She was consistently good in it, and season 2 was a huge improvement. If the MCU needs an iron fist, it would make sense to bring back Colleen instead of Danny, or to briefly bring back Danny just to kill him off and pass the torch to her. In spite of all the flaws of that show, Colleen Wing is a character worth bringing back if the story calls for it. It would make sense now that the canon floodgates have been officially opened and the underground superpowered martial arts scene has been established.

[@appal5052]

@@har5814 Really we just need all the great actors and actresses in those shows, in the MCU and we’re set for the Disney+ side of things. Jessica Jones, Punisher, Colleen, Luke Cage, and the Daredevil supporting cast.

[@ZafVirex]

Hollywood needs to greenlight a film with these two. They have great chemistry!

[@Blackcanvasart]

8:17 what I love about Simu is how much of an actual person he his. There’s gets to a point where a celebrity becomes… a celebrity. Where they loose their grounded nature. It’s unfortunate that his increase of fame might come at the price of how close he is with us, but it’s understandable

[@lordingus]

great set up for Shang Chi 2. Colleen falls in love with Shang since Katy is just a friend :P

[@GG-zb2fv]

They should do a film together. You can feel the chemistry they both have

[@CesarIsaacPerez]

That white dress!!! That red suit!!! They both look amazing. Loved the interview. It was really cool.

[@caph2o22]

Man... Jessica's smile can really melt the heart. What a beautiful woman.

[@simuliu744]

❤️Thanks for the endless love and support you have constantly shown me in such difficult moment. I’m forever grateful. I really appreciate your unconditional love to me and every effort exerted by you to cause a change…Where are you watching from?

[@DrewDeLand]

What a great conversation and these 2 need to be in all movies lol.

[@mac31903]

right away you can tell that they have chemistry 🥰

[@alexsantos5948]

Her smile...her accent...enough said.

[@bluehippofilms]

Pretty sure Jessica Henwick just passed her screen test for Shang-Chi 2 with this interview

[@pyrobison2002]

Noooo shit lol

[@gray-fox6789]

This interview is so honest, humble, down to earth conversations between two rising asian stars. I would watch this for an infinite times if there ever was lol. I wish them all the best, love their chemistry! ❤️❤️❤️

[@xtra_aco]

They're both so down to earth despite having blown up with their careers. I hope they stay that way

[@cr-it5lh]

arrogance so early would destroy their career

[@biljancanin]

Her smile literally makes me smile...

[@simuliu744]

❤️Thanks for the endless love and support you have constantly shown me in such difficult moment. I’m forever grateful. I really appreciate your unconditional love to me and every effort exerted by you to cause a change…Where are you watching from?

[@pnwajs3532]

I do want her to land a part in the MCU, even if it's not to play as Colleen Wing again. I am happy she didn't take the part of Shang-Chi's sister, as that would be a role that only exists in Shang-Chi films. I want Jessica to play a hero that can be in a lot of Marvel projects. Personally I want her to land the role of Psylocke in the eventual MCU X-Men films.

[@coreyanderson5563]

She is so full of herself

[@ej8071]

@@coreyanderson5563 as she should

[@UporaFilms]

PERFECT FOR BETSY BRADOCK!!!!!!

[@clintbrew]

She was up for a role of Xu xailing in Shang-chi but turn it down for the matrix cus she was hoping to play coleen wing again in the mcu

[@lightup6751]

Honestly. She likely wants to be cast in something more demanding than a marvel or flick movie. The movies are fun dont get me wrong. But typically not what actors consider their ambition or wanna be remembered by.

[@JohnHandemPiette]

Jessica absolutely slays in Matrix, iconic role!! Who else is ‘shipping these two as hard as I am 😍?

[@golik133]

Yeah she is very pretty 😍

[@sage.rivendell]

Bs! She was stupid!

[@simuliu744]

❤️Thanks for the endless love and support you have constantly shown me in such difficult moment. I’m forever grateful. I really appreciate your unconditional love to me and every effort exerted by you to cause a change…Where are you watching from?

[@darthduckyreports86]

My god, she is absolutely stunning and seems to have an amazing personality (well, on screen personality).

[@Towkeeyoh]

As we're reading in the comments here, may the internet gods make this rom com happen! They're adorable!

[@coscrupi]

Iron Fist & Shang Chi ....finally together. What an absolutely beautiful woman 💖

[@KewpieGirl]

omg I love both,, great conversations but I think they should do films or tv series togeather in the future!

[@simuliu744]

❤️Thanks for the endless love and support you have constantly shown me in such difficult moment. I’m forever grateful. I really appreciate your unconditional love to me and every effort exerted by you to cause a change…Where are you watching from?

[@KalvinPatel]

Love this conversation!

[@sullyeeet6715]

my left ear sure did

[@Daemon1995_]

funny how Jesscia turned down a role in Shang Chi which apparently might have been playing his Sister

[@mandeepkumarray9050]

Apparently matrix ressuraction sucked. Now don't blame me , I haven't seen the movie yet ... But i watched 3-4 reviews. It's not like worst but it wasn't good enough .

[@OldkidLivegen]

They have good chemistry. They should definitely be in a movie together

[@19RoFlMao19]

@@mandeepkumarray9050 go watch the movie and build up your own opinion rather than writing garbage that sucked.

[@lauriearaga6433]

Okay, these two need to be in a project together. They have such good chemistry! Also, I kinda like them together. Simu is handsome as always, and Jessica my God she’s beautiful and THAT DRESS? 😍 Her make up & hair? *chefs kiss* 💯 give that stylist a raise!

[@simuliu744]

❤️Thanks for the endless love and support you have constantly shown me in such difficult moment. I’m forever grateful. I really appreciate your unconditional love to me and every effort exerted by you to cause a change…Where are you watching from?

[@carlosjsb]

Jessica is an amazing actress and a gorgeous woman! She is incredibly beautiful!

[@jonsnow7844]

Jessica, you were the best thing about Matrix Resurrections. Well done! I wish you were the proper protagonist. And I would watch a Matrix sequel with you as the protagonist. Looking forward to seeing more of you on the screen in any role. :)

[@aldomontiel6000]

They have great chemestry, hope Jessica keeps doing Coleen, but if thats not the case she should Be in Shang Shi 2.

[@brandonvang2893]

These two had great chemistry too! I want to see them together in something now!

[@AGVME]

Yes, Simu x Jessica Henwick love story in Shang-Chi 2 or in another film, don't care. I feel their chemistry

[@THE.MICHAEL.ANGELO]

"It's an access point into our culture..." Such an awesome and positive perspective. There are too many Asians out there who feel that "that's all we're known for," but be damn proud of it. I'm Asian and a lot of times growing up I got the, "I bet you know Karate/ Martial Arts," and so on. If I didn't know {have it in my blood] I would've proudly said yes and hope they don't beat my ass. LOL! But seriously, Martial Arts runs very rich in our culture and those who feel ashamed of it should reconsider and start empowering themselves with a strong history of being warriors and more-so, Protectors.

[@jjstarrprod]

2 of the loveliest people in the showbiz at the moment ! Both were phenomenal in their respective movies, and I sure would love to see Jessica join in the fun of a sequel of Shang Chi or a Disney+ show of the Ten Rings.

[@rc....]

Loveliest based on what? Based on all these staged interviews? Not saying they aren't lovely but based on what?

[@Sune]

Really enjoyed seeing these two discuss these topics!

[@bendjinzau2495]

This is one of the most enjoyable and genuine conversation I have seen between actors. Love it !

[@pikeyMcBarkin]

Really loved this video. Thank you everyone involved.

[@YHWGA]

After I watch the matrix 4. I cant stop look at Jessica beautiful eyes.

Jessica Henwick is a great actress and Simu Liu is a nice guy

[@amirbaharudin904]

Wow, I didn’t know that I need this interview in my life. Couldn’t stop smiling. Fantasy couple for future Rom Com!

[@gregkrazanski]

this was an amazing conversation!!!!!!!!! i think she's going to get a boatload of work going forward, she's amazing on screen in matrix 4!

[@deepz513]

He so knowledgeable ..I get he is full of wisdom and good at heart too

[@xtrafe5953]

This interview just made me smile, and I'm still smiling. :)

[@Quandryification]

There definitely needs to be a movie with these 2.

[@JoeBeer02]

I really admire them both, and love the characters they play

[@kinanswer]

My left ear thanks you for this great interview.

[@ray.b.75]

So much chemistry between these two!

[@mageeaaron2624]

So cool to see these great actors talking to one another. So satisfying!!

[@joshuahng1]

This was so good

[@kle2217]

She should play someone like Psylocke in an MCU X-men movie! I didn’t know her last name was pronounced without the “w” in it.

[@ariprabowo85]

My left ear thoroughly enjoyed the conversation.

[@cheekyboomboom8973]

Jessica Henwick was easily the stand-out of Iron Fist and I've heard she's the best part of this Matrix. Can't wait to see her in The Gray Man and Knives Out 2 as well. Love her.

[@simuliu744]

❤️Thanks for the endless love and support you have constantly shown me in such difficult moment. I’m forever grateful. I really appreciate your unconditional love to me and every effort exerted by you to cause a change…Where are you watching from?

[@ridethasno]

Jessica has it all. She’s the personification of smart and sexy. Even Simu is praying one of those cards has her phone number.

[@AMBWCHANNEL]

And you have yellow fever, pervert

[@Null-941]

Well said

[@San-pv]

both were great, i love both of them, great artists, this was a great talk

[@MisterWub]

I could watch her talk for hours. She is so beautiful!

[@twothirdsanexplosive]

This is great. Interesting questions from two people thinking about their place in culture, their background, and their careers.

[@mizuxsion]

this was an AWESOME interview! i can't wait to see more of them and other Asians within the community getting more spotlight

[@rogerhenry6489]

Great interview. They both seem so chill and grounded. Hopefully they'll get to do a project together at some point.

[@sgitn3673]

You did great, Jessica. Smart that she read the script. Loved the movie!

[@radioactiveag2531]

Marvel Studios needs to see this chemistry. These two are hot together. Keep her as Colleen Wigg and team her with Shang Chi. That's a pairing I pay huge cinema bucks to see.

[@CharacterMedia]

You should tag Marvel or show this to them. =)

[@Yatsua]

She was the only one reason that I continued watching Iron Fist

[@fawli86]

my left ear really loved the character conversations.

[@Bernsong]

They both deserved the success they are having right now and really wish Marvel get her back. And I love her as Bugs as she is the only interesting character in Matrix Ressurections.

[@le_maxarus]

she is, because she is the only character that behaves like a character of matrix movie. she is a blue pill within the movie. hence, her blue hair.

[@JIMMY_NEMESIS]

GOOD LORD JESSICA HENWICK 🔥🔥🔥 the dress goddamnnn and the body

[@ashsevilla6078]

Fantastic interview. I'm in the "make Colleen Iron Fist in Shang Chi 2" camp. I know there are a ton of Danny Rand fans out there, but she was *SO* great as Colleen.

[@BenyaminLorit]

Colleen as the main Iron Fist would be great. I hope they bring her back in the fold. The series ended with her being the crime-fighter by the end so I really think it would fit nicely and Danny could still exist elsewhere just travelling or finding his way back into K'un-Lun.

[@mikejaxx7791]

Her & Danny both had the power of the iron fist at the end of season 2. They need a real Asian/American actor as Danny though. That was the problem with the show & poor fight scenes. I love collen, but she should NOT be the MAIN iron fist imo. I still want her in the mcu somehow regardless if she plays collen or a new character

[@BenyaminLorit]

@@mikejaxx7791 Danny Rand was never an asian-american so they don't really need to change anything and it wasn't "the problem" with the show so much as it was the writing/execution. And why do they even need to change Danny's race anyway? Because he's associated to martial arts? If so , then that only furthers the asian stereotype brought up in this conversation. Part of Danny Rand's character was being a white guy of privilege who's thrust into an ancient culture where he's essentially stripped off everything and has to prove himself by working extra hard in a foreign land to be worthy of the Iron Fist. It won't be right to take that away, and I say this as an asian guy myself.

[@mikejaxx7791]

@@BenyaminLorit I feel it would be better if he was mixed for diversity but I did think he was an Asian guy raised in America. Thanks for informing me. So u prefer them to keep it strictly to comics??

[@BenyaminLorit]

@@mikejaxx7791 yes, I often advocate for keeping things as close as *reasonably* possible to the source as it's always important to keep the essence of these characters intact. Diversity is necessary and can be good but diversity for diversity's sake and done at the expense of what a character is about is a no-no for me. Like for example, "The Batman" changing Gordon and Catwoman's race for me is perfectly fine because it doesn't affect the core of their characters but to change someone like Iron Fist who's race is pivotal to his character and story would be like changing Black Panther to a white guy. It won't be the same person in essence. Shang-Chi has already been updated perfectly to provide the asian-american perspective that you're asking for and he exists as the other side of the coin opposite Danny Rand's. In my opinion, having them team-up and be friends like in the comics is the way to go because there's opportunity to explore the dynamic of two characters with opposite origins but yeah, I'm not sure that's what the studio wants for the character of Shang-Chi.

[@mikejaxx7791]

@@BenyaminLorit I agree 100% I would love for them to team up as well. They do have a tendency of changing certain things & I hope you're right & they go that route with shang-chi & ironfist. It would be amazing. I just want them to get him right this time & finally get his suit for crying out loud lol

[@lovebloom923]

After seeing Matrix Resurrections I personally felt that she was the secret star of the film and now she is my all time fav English actress! 🤗💖

[@xakdaum]

This is so great! Yeah

[@keeganmcintosh7353]

Great conversation

[@TheKaijuHunter]

When Marvel first announced that they were making a Shang-Chi movie I was hoping they would cast Jessica Henwick having watched Iron Fist. Thought she was great in it. Hopefully, she'll be in the sequel.

[@lHurtYourFeeIings]

This is actually a very good interview.

[@LouieDoesaThing]

This was a great!

[@DepecheModeDaddy]

I see a dream team here !! Love both these guys ! Can’t wait to see them do a film together!

[@Vainkooooo]

Hope they make atleast 3 shang chi movies.

[@newbro]

I love her as Bugs in Matrix Resurrection, she was like cool but has a beauty quality with her at the same time.

[@allanvelez3203]

I can see these two together in the next Shang Chi film

[@seven92023]

She is one of the very few good things about Matrix Resurrections.

[@JR-ju3kj]

She was one of the very few good things about Iron Fist,too. I think that The Matrix Resurrections was a completely unnecessary movie.Hollywood always has that problem-they don't know when to leave something alone and as it is.

[@rising_tide1063]

both are so good with their respective movie roles

[@wildcard04]

My left ear really liked this

[@adiCT0316]

I love them both!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@Target135]

Dude... the chemistry between these two! I sense a crush

[@CharacterMedia]

Who has a crush on who?

[@Target135]

@@CharacterMedia well, I felt like it was going both ways, but more from Simu to Jessica

[@eduardoarmenta9232]

Thanks to this interview we can see how that chemistry read would've gone.... They're amazing together.

[@zookytar]

If she was being considered for the sister role... this chemistry would have been wasted. Hope she gets to play a kickass love interest for him and a hero in her own right.

[@chazertronfivethousand4425]

Jessica is a megastar. The world needs to catch up more.

[@SyamAraragi]

my left ear really enjoyed this conversation

[@zeff2217]

Need them as love interests in Shang Chi 2!!!!

[@crazymonkeyvk714]

they have awesome chemistry :)

[@DannyBoydPhoto]

Totally appreciate the last question / answers.

[@CharacterMedia]

Same.

[@simuliu744]

❤️Thanks for the endless love and support you have constantly shown me in such difficult moment. I’m forever grateful. I really appreciate your unconditional love to me and every effort exerted by you to cause a change…Where are you watching from?

[@DannyBoydPhoto]

@@simuliu744 NYC. I visit Toronto tomorrow

[@simuliu744]

@@DannyBoydPhoto Thanks for your endless love and support . I'm forever grateful for all support and care. I will love to create a warm atmosphere to know your opinions and thoughts about my movies.

[@nothajzl]

My left ear is very pleased.

[@frankcastle6090]

Love me some jessica henwick