Jesus Foretold by a Story From King David? (2nd ?) Who Added Chapter Breaks?(5th ?) R Singer - 1877

[@xepturate]

So excited for this opportunity to learn from the rabbi

[@lovegrace5466]

There are huge problems with the Hebrew Bible on Genealogy of Levi(im). In the genealogy of Levi (im), Ahimaaz, Azariah and Johanan in 1 Chr 6:9-10 are missing in Ezra 7: 1-6. Amariah, Ahitub and Zadok in 1 Chro 6:7-8 in Chronicles are repeated in 1 Chro 6:11-12. Jehozadak in 1 Chro 6:14 is missing in Ezra 7:1-6 . Ezra in Ezra 7:1 is missing in 1 Chro 6:7-9

[@DrD2You]

@@lovegrace5466 According to whom?

[@lovegrace5466]

​@@DrD2You According to me. I have stated the chapter and verses and its differences. Probably most people, Jews and Noahides didn't know. *There shouldn't be any differences in the genealogy of Levi but it does.* Go and read them yourself.

[@DrD2You]

@@lovegrace5466 I appreciate your clarification that it is just your .02. Given your previously demonstrated tendencies to misread, misquote, and misunderstand, I wouldn't waste my time, especially given that nothing in your comment matters as far as believing in the one G'd, Who is neither a man nor a trinity, goes.

[@lovegrace5466]

@@DrD2You What is 02? Were you saying I was wrong in statement 2? I don't misquote or misread a verse. Were you trying to gloss over my comments and went on to other topic? I have checked them 3 times before I put it up. *The Genealogy of Levi is faulty in the Hebrew Bible.* If my comments wasted your time, you should not have interjected my comments in the first place and stayed away. Now you were trying to deviate from my comment to other topic which had been discussed many times. That is wasting my time.

[@bookmouse2719]

Thank you Rabbi 💗

[@browntroy101]

🎉....great and informative video ❤🎉

[@matttillman7430]

44:34 "Judy" is asking an absolutely BEAUTIFUL question.

[@Michael-Martell]

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[@김지호-x8q-m9n]

Targum Jonathan on Isaiah 52:13 - Behold, my servant the messiah shall prosper, he shall be exalted and extolled, and he shall be very strong.

[@madmanmark8387]

Good show. I'm not going to bother to say anything because I apparently offend many Christian trolls on here. I'm like our new president, Donald Trump. I speak my mind. Not many like him and not many like me.

[@madmanmark8387]

@summerhouse8205 apparently you're not looking at my picture. Im.a former radio personality at college radio WHRW

[@madmanmark8387]

@summerhouse8205 Like my new president, I like him speak my mind and my guess is you're a Trump hater. Deal with it he won fair and square, unlike him being cheated last time around.

[@madmanmark8387]

@summerhouse8205 my freedom to speak my mind and you know what they say,if you can't stand the heat get out of the sauna.

[@shirleyannelindberg1692]

@@madmanmark8387 Don’t worry about them, they’re always getting their knickers in a twist, if they can’t push yoshkie on those of us who follow Tanach 🙄😤🤦🏻‍♀️

[@madmanmark8387]

@shirleyannelindberg1692 thanks

[@Steve-n5y]

Not the remnant mentioned in Scripture. We get that Singer. Its not for everyone.

[@oliver2032]

Original sin? What does Rashi say about this? Behold, with iniquity I was formed. Now how could I not sin when the main part of my creation was through coitus, the source of many iniquities? Another explanation: The main part of my creation is from a male and a female, both of whom are full of iniquity. There are many midrashim to this verse, but they do not fit the context of the psalm. conceived me. Heb. יחמתני, an expression of heat, as (Gen. 30:38): “And they came into heat (ויחמנה) when they came to drink.”

[@Growmetheus]

I hope next week i can ask about some of the jewish origin septuagint books

[@saul2491]

You can. But rabbi speaks about the septuagint in many past videos. Just watch his past videos

[@barrys.9040]

The real Septuagent no longer exists and it was only the Five Books of Moses. The current is a church product.

[@RuriRuri24]

At 54 min... Mr Singer say something that I hear as if its "The Goim/Golem..." --what is that? does it mean everyone, Africans etc..are that "Goim/Golem"? S=is it similar to "Kaffir" as the racist Dutch used to call Africans?

[@therighteousrighthand]

Original sin is sinply mentioned in Genesis. If you repent and turn away then why do you have Yom Kippur?

[@rightousliving]

When God created Adam and Eve he said it was very good. Not just good, but very good. This raises the question, why then did those very good people choose to eat of the forbidden fruit? Why did they disobey God. Doesn’t it mean that the act of disobedience was part of a very good design? So everything is perfect, even the fact that Adam and Eve sinned. So all God is teaching mankind is that choices bring consequences. Everything goes according to God’s plan. Even Jesus dying on the cross. Even the church twisting Hebrew Scriptures, the Torah and Prophets, to bring a message to the world that in the end ensures that the Torah will be available to all mankind. Thus nobody will be without excuse, everyone can know what God has revealed in His Word. God started with Israel but now the whole world knows about God’s laws.

[@AWBR_777]

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[@nicolediamond8273]

We have Jews in Texas! There are plenty of Jewish synagogues in Texas. There are Jewish synagogues All over America, Tovia.

[@brynawaldman5790]

I've lived in regions of rural American where I've been told I am the first Jew that a person ever met. It's happened several times in my life; in rural Kansas, Oregon, & Washington St. I bet those synagogues are in cities or large towns, but not in rural areas

[@nicolediamond8273]

@brynawaldman5790 , I'm sure that's true. Small town people don't tend to travel far from home, and most small towns don't have synagogues. It's a bigger city thing, but we do have Jews in the bigger cities in Texas, which is a huge state.

[@Darisiabgal7573]

He’s talking about Jews living on lake LBJ. The rabbi should note that the hill country of Texas in the late 19th century was one of the religiously most diverse places in America. Unfortunately now people have forgotten their roots and embraced this rabid conservatism. Even so there are lots of hippie hollows in the hill country.

[@nicolediamond8273]

@Darisiabgal7573 , Yes, I would agree that there are hippie hollows as you coined it. And it's true that small town people don't tend to travel much so they don't get exposed to Judaism. But there are synagogues in the bigger cities and there is definitely a Jewish presence virtually everywhere!

[@Darisiabgal7573]

@ I mean my neighborhood abutts Meyerland so I can hardly argue with that.

[@lisamarie6611]

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[@menmustchangebeforekingdoms]

@@Janejones-hz6sj - Deuteronomy 28:1-14 is your answer.

[@ValerieAnnPate]

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[@LouiseAaron-d1q]

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[@quetzelmichaels1637]

The concept of origianl sin is irrational. True, I was born guilty, a sinner, even as my mother conceived me. (Psa 51:7 NABO) death came to all, inasmuch as all sinned (Rom 5:12 NABO) in hope that creation itself would be set free from slavery to corruption (Rom 8:20-21 NABO) acknowledged themselves to be strangers and aliens on earth, (Heb 11:13 NABO) May God give to you (Jacob) of the dew of the heavens And of the fertility of the earth abundance of grain and wine. (Gen 27:28 NABO) Ah, far from the fertile earth shall be your (Esau's) dwelling; far from the dew of the heavens above! (Gen 27:39 NABO) the one who ascended far above all the heavens (Eph 4:10 NABO) Jacob, the deceiver, grasping at the heel of Esau is a retelling of the story of Adam and the Snake (Morning Star) striking at the head and the heel. To strike at the head or the heel means to admire. To grasp the heel means to protect. The heel means fullness or complete. Jacob was grasping for protection from Esau, who serves Jacob with his sword. Esau wields his sword in service to Jacob, throws off his yoke and ascends far above the all the heavens.

[@bookmouse2719]

That Psalm was about David and Bathsheba ....I don't read xian book.

[@DrD2You]

Original sin is an irrational doctrine. After that correct assertion, you go astray, alas.

[@cheekybastard135]

David repented, he pleaded with God, fasted and laid on the ground and “God put away his sin”, but did the sword depart from his house? did the child die? You can even say he pay a price a sacrifice to god “for the wages of sin is death. Distortion of the Tanakh does not make the Christians wrong, refute with the pure word “in context” as you like to say. By not doing so you have made the Christen case stronger not weaken it. Proverbs 20:9 מִי-יֹאמַר, זִכִּיתִי לִבִּי; טָהַרְתִּי, מֵחַטָּאתִי. Who can say, “I have made my heart pure; I am clean from my sin”? “Saintliness” does not equate to sinlessness. At the moment, if Christians are selling snowballs you are selling yellow snow as snowballs, how is this better.

[@jbchoc]

We must thank the Masoretis for assisting Rabbi Singer in advance by changing Tanakh vs Dead Dea Scrolls.

[@David-j8v5p]

Apostle Peter stated that King David was a prophet who foretold Jesus's resurrection based on what he wrote in Psalm 16 about the messiah's body being not abandoned to the grave or seeing decay either

[@nathankupczyk3125]

That's his own Commentary, in fact psalm 16 doesn't speak about the "body," it speaks about "soul."

[@doug7180]

If someone like Elijah didn't die. Would it be necromancy or sorcery asking to speak with him?

[@DrD2You]

Necromancy is communicating with the deceased, generally by using a "medium." Given that definition, no, it would not be necromancy to ask to speak with the Prophet Elijah; at the same time, I suggest that you speak with a qualified Orthodox Jewish Rabbi to discuss your project before doing so. This is my .02 and should not be considered as the advice of a professional of any kind.

[@doug7180]

@DrD2You I research mostly, just a thought. Let change the subject. Why is Jewish chronological order later in time than ancient solar years. Is it due to your use of Lunar cycles vs. Solar ?

[@doug7180]

@DrD2You You didn't address sorcery. Therefore, you would need it to get to him.

[@DrD2You]

@@doug7180 I would not be interested in contacting Elijah. You asked if it would be necromancy, and I was kind enough to take time out of my life to share my thoughts. Best wishes.

[@DrD2You]

@@doug7180 I don't know that your contention is accurate, nor does the topic hold any relevance for me.

[@David-j8v5p]

Why don't people see what's obviously going on here? Psalm 16 that King David wrote apostle Peter stated in the Acts 2:31 verse that was about Jesus's resurrection.

[@XRay-T50]

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[@rtee4086]

@XRay-T50 please read Numbers 23 :19, God is not a human, Isaiah 43 :10--11, I am the Lord, and apart from me there is no Saviour, Deuteronomy 6 : 4, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God, The Lord is one, Deuteronomy 4: 39 The Lord is God in heaven above and on the earth below, There is no other, Worshipping Jesus as God is idolatry. Why did Jesus say, My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me ? who was he crying out to ? himself ?

[@jaywho476]

Antidote not anecdote to sin. Flawless otherwise as per usual ;)

[@David-j8v5p]

Psalm 16. That's the prophecy that apostle Paul took and wrote about. Apostle Peter also said in Acts 2:31 verse that King David wrote or rather was a prophet that prophecied about Jesus's resurrection and also about Judas Iscariot's betrayal against Jesus

[@nathankupczyk3125]

So psalm 16 doesn't necessarily speak about Jesus, it's were Paul and Peter who said it's a prophecy about Jesus.....

[@jonathan3325]

Read 2 Corinthians 4:4 with Ezekiel 28:11-18 and do the comparatives.

[@onejohn2.26.]

Paul is the false Apostle spoken of in Revelation 2:2

[@jonathan3325]

@onejohn2.26. we are only fulfilling Ezekiel 3:18 we haven't even talked about the new testament yet.

[@villiestephanov984]

​@@onejohn2.26. if Paul is represented as Revelation 2:1, how in the world can he be 2:2?

[@villiestephanov984]

I would just rewrite Jeremiah's 3:11-13

[@onejohn2.26.]

@villiestephanov984 I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

[@menmustchangebeforekingdoms]

No Tovia, the question is, "if you could repent, renounce, confess, & turn away from your sins, and God would forgive you", THEN WHY WOULD GOD'S NEW COVENANT BE NECESSARY ?? And WHY would God need to "REMOVE YOUR STONY HEART", if your "heart" was RIGHT ?? "(Ezekiel 36:25,26). Why wasn't the 1st Covenant good enough ??

[@YOhevet]

I think my reply answers your question. Your name men must change before kingdom... is true,and women bringing men away from APOSTACY and changing their heart is A new thing the Lord God made. How nonhappenstance is your name to my post😮❤🎉

[@davidrexford586]

Many create their own doctrines by picking apart the Bible and taking only what they want to acknowledge as truth and leave everything else alone.

[@menmustchangebeforekingdoms]

@@YOhevet First of all, My "question" wasn't to "you", It was to the "Blind Guide" Tovia Singer, but not because I didn't know the answer. And no, your "reply" didn't even come "close", but was rather a big bowl of "confusion" soup without explaining WHY the New Covenant WAS necessary.

[@YOhevet]

@menmustchangebeforekingdoms sin hardens hearts. Three tribes fought for the land, but they preferred the other side of the Jordan and WERE RELEASED FROM THE COVENANT. But they are israelites, family. Did some return,yes. Did some go to Christian and Islam, yes. Are they awakening, yes. Will they return, God willing, with love and a new covenant that they in live will love to do.

[@menmustchangebeforekingdoms]

@@YOhevet What ?? I give up.....

[@marcelofalconi4841]

What about all the miracles that happen in the name of Jesus... Maybe Hashem is really pleased with this "Christian Mesiah". 😉

[@David-j8v5p]

Acts 2:31 But he.....(King David) was a prophet before God, seeing what was ahead he...... (King David) spoke the resurrection of the messiah that the messiah's body was not abandoned to the grave nor did his body see decay......' (Read Acts 2:30-31 verses.)

[@zaharabardavid]

King David spoke of resurrection of the righteous in Psalm 16. This is in future times and has nothing to do with JC. Orthodox Jews believe in the resurrection of the righteous.

[@David-j8v5p]

@zaharabardavid Apostle Peter took and said that King David seeing what was ahead he spoke of the resurrection of the messiah......Acts 2:31 verse

[@zaharabardavid]

@@David-j8v5p You keep quoting what the NT says, and it's irrelevant to a Jew, as the entire books is corrupt. Nowhere in the Hebrew Scriptures does it speak of the messiah resurrecting from the dead. However, it does say the messiah will bring world peace. Did JC do that? No, war is raging in the Middle East and Europe even today. The prophets foretold there would be universal knowledge of G-d, yet agnosticism and atheism is rampant. They foretold messiah would gather all Jews in the Diaspora to the Holy Land, yet there are more Jews in Los Angeles than there are in Jerusalem. They foretold Messiah would rebuild the third temple. Did JC accomplish even one thing described? No, he did not. The real messiah won't have to come back for a second try.

[@wkrapek]

Of course Jesus is the new David. And John makes it clear that Lazarus is the new Jonathan.

[@David-j8v5p]

The writer of the book of Acts wrote something that he or she didn't know about apostle Peter actually taking and saying

[@Bluebaggins]

The oral Torah written as the Talmud is so ancient that it even has mention of yeshua boiling in excretement for eternity. Cant explain how prophetic the rabbis are its uncanny that even before the advent of christ, they already had explanations in their teachings. Exodus 23:20-21 i suppose some people missed the first lesson in their books as they think forgiveness is a game they can play with the holy spirit. "Jesus vs. the Talmud: The Divine Truth They Couldn't Erase" YT video

[@bb1111116]

Different Jesus/Joshua. It’s a common name. Source; Jews for Judaism

[@Bluebaggins]

@@bb1111116 So where in Torah that is told about in Talmud is this jesus/joshua? give the verses. I can only find one reference and thats Yeshua that was with Moses. If thats the one being pointed towards, then i truly wonder why the Talmud is so anti Torah and the story of how israelites came to be in Canaan is dergatory in the rabbis view point. Its as if the Talmud is a seperate religion altogether.

[@bb1111116]

​@@Bluebaggins ; this Jesus/Yeshu/Joshua you originally mentioned most likely lived in the early first century BCE which is several years before the events in the New Testament. Again, Jesus/Joshua/Yeshu/Yeshua is a common name. Source; Jews for Judaism

[@Bluebaggins]

@@bb1111116 If the Talmud is the oral Torah then the reference should be mentioned in the Torah and not some random made up scenario where one needs to create something that can not be verified by the Torah itself. What you are trying to do is use fallacious logic to explain something away with nonsense. As i have suggested, the Talmud does not represent the Torah at all, it is a new religion born from the minds of men much like the Koran.

[@bb1111116]

​@@Bluebaggins ; some definitions. The Mishna is the Oral Torah. After that, the writers of the Talmud wrote commentaries about the Mishnah. - Your original comment stated that the Talmud also mentioned more current events such as a discussion of a person named Yeshu/Jesus/Joshua. You are correct about that. - However, as I explained, the Talmud discusses a different Jesus/Joshua/Yeshu/Yeshua. Again, it’s a common name. Source; Jews for Judaism

[@rodjohnon4950]

Sir, where is your sacrifice? Where is the covering for your sins?

[@zaharabardavid]

G-d forgives sin when the person confesses it and make the changes necessary. No sacrifice required other than repentance.

[@menmustchangebeforekingdoms]

@@zaharabardavid If "no sacrifice is required other than repentance", THEN WHY IS THE NEW COVENANT NECESSARY ??????

[@DrD2You]

@@menmustchangebeforekingdoms As usual, you have misread the mistranslation authorized by the bi-s*xual King Jamie.

[@DrD2You]

@@Lauri4973 No, in fact, during most of the history of the son of G'd (see Exodus 4 v 22), the Beit HaMikdash has not existed. Having the Beit HaMikdash is a wonderful thing; however, its existence is not necessary for our sins to be forgiven.

[@iSurvivorForever]

The Torah, the 600 plus laws, all the Jewish traditions are there to judge the Jewish Nation. This is where Jesus comes in. It fits beautifully. Through Jesus we are free. Jesus paid for all the sins, all the disobedience of not fulfilling the 600 plus Torah laws and traditions. It’s simple.

[@DrD2You]

Salvation is even simpler than that! If your mother isn't Jewish, the 613 Laws of the Torah of G'd do not apply to you. If your mother isn't Jewish, you need only obey the seven Laws that G'd gave to all humanity via His Covenant with Noah. Everyone must repent directly to G'd for her or his own sins. Jesus was not sinless, he taught contrary to Torah, and he encouraged other people to sin. In fact, per G'd in His Torah, nobody can expiate the sins of another. G'd does love you. Turn to the G'd of Abraham (Who is neither a man, nor a trinity) and repent of your sins today!

[@menmustchangebeforekingdoms]

@@DrD2You- "Dr. Delusional" is back breaking the 9th Commandment AGAIN,..... her apparent "sin of choice", ...telling others to REPENT, revealing her HYPOCRISY at the same time !!

[@DrD2You]

@@summerhouse8205 No, I have never heard of anything like that. I don't liken human beings to dogs or dogs to human beings. You do you, though.

[@DrD2You]

@@summerhouse8205 Ad hominem rebuttal reveals the weakness of your contentions. In fact, what I wrote is not from the Talmud (which I have never studied to any great degree); what I wrote is from Torah, which was given to us directly from G'd. Be well.

[@DrD2You]

@@summerhouse8205 Learning to argue logically will only help you in multiple areas of your life.

[@CKennethBauer]

Tovia Singer the anti-christ of anti-christ’s

[@MisterRichie-d7l]

Your Jesus Christ is actually Anti Christ. 😂

[@anthonyben-yah9745]

The Messiah/ Christ Is A Totally Jewish Concept That Was Totally Distorted By Both The Christian New Testament And Islamic Quran Writers To Fit Their False Religion Narratives And Plain And Simply Put: Jesus Is A False And Fabricated Greco Roman Mangod And He IS ABSOLUTELY NOT THE JEWISH MESSIAH Which Plain And Simply Means That Jesus Is An "Anti-Christ" (A Totally Christian And Islamic Concept). Christians And Muslims Repent Today From Your False And Fabricated Beliefs And Be Truly Saved, Amen And Amen, Hallelu Yah!

[@Pr1nce4of4Peace4]

No rest for the wicked hey rabbi. In desperation, you must cover the truth. Don't make idols of ideals like the laws of Moses.

[@Dina-es6vi]

Psalm 119?

[@Darisiabgal7573]

@@Pr1nce4of4Peace4 The rabbi isn’t afraid of idols, he’s got one over his right shoulder. If he gets bored of that he can walk down to the local stone idol. Here in the south we have statues to Stonewall Jackson, in Jerusalem they have a stonewall god. Give him a break the Torah at least has a living meaning. These other idols are the relics of Asherah and a post exilic mound god.

[@Pr1nce4of4Peace4]

@@Darisiabgal7573 Speak, ye that ride on white asses, ye that sit in judgment, and walk by the way. Shofetiym (Judges) 5:10

[@Darisiabgal7573]

@@Pr1nce4of4Peace4 Deborah was from Luz (Bethel), the nickname of Asherah, a known Asherah worship site, see sat under a palm tree, a known symbol of Asherah and she made proclamations. Deborah was a Melchizedek. Shamgar was from region in which the ruins of Beth Anath are found, his Name is Shamgar son of Anath. Anath is the middle Euphratean goddess of war and hunting. The people in ‘Isra’el’ after the late Bronze Age collapse were thoroughly polytheistic. The Deuteronomistic writers repainted YHWH into the picture. The Yahu in Judges is not YHWH, but Ia, Enki. Bethlehem, the house of the guardian of Enki.

[@nathankupczyk3125]

What exactly is his idols?

[@BrandonGallemore]

Do Jews practice Kabbalah? Yes. Does Kabbalah speak of a lower God and a higher God, yes. Enoch is melchezidek or Christ is, but how is the argument any different from the Jewish one? I've truly come to believe we're all arguing about the same thing. Christians created a Hegelian Dialectic with this belief structure through the prophecies, but the belief itself is very similar. Not to mention that both prophecies end up meeting with the coming of the Jewish Messiah and the Christian Messiah. Christians believe the Anti-Christ will be worshipped by the Jews, but the Jews believe that their Messiah is the correct one. Christians hasten the coming of their Messiah and in turn fulfill prophecy. Paul was a Kabbalist who was caught up in the third heaven. Everything makes sense outside of an organized religious lense.

[@Michael-Martell]

Could you please provide an example how a Jew would “practice” Kabbalah? That didn’t make sense to me.

[@BrandonGallemore]

@Michael-Martell do you believe Kabbalistic texts influence Judaism? Is it taught in Yeshivas? Is it mandated in Israel? How is this confusing? Don't we see celebrities and government leaders wearing those little red bracelets? I respect the religion, but I really dislike these reactions. It's a well-proven thing at this point. Kabbalah is Judaism, but more mysticism, more numerology, more astrology, etc. Many Rabbis and even Netanyahu are proponents of the Zohar and other related texts.

[@davidkatz341]

When Christians start talking about Kabbalah I begin to wonder if they just rasping at straws because all their other apologetics have been proven baseless. The word just means received. There are people who engage in a completely non-Jewish mystical practice that there's nothing to do with Judaism. There are however kabbalistic interpretations that are completely in line with Judaism. But the talk about this is actual serious Judaism is just complete stupidity. It would be like trying to judge Christianity by looking at Appalachian snake handlers and think that's normative Christianity. If you want to know about Judaism all you need to do is read the Torah, the prophets and the writings.

[@brynawaldman5790]

​@@BrandonGallemoreReading books isn't a practice. I've read the Tibetan Buddhist Book of the Dead. It doesn't make me a Tibetan Buddhist.

[@brynawaldman5790]

I don't see my response to you anymore. (KZbin is blocking me a lot, lately, especially my long posts.). I'll keep it short & maybe it will go through. Do Jews practice Kabbala? No. Reading the Zohar isn't a practice. Do your moral codes change from reading the Zohar? Are there prayers specific to the Zohar? Are there changes in any Jewish rituals from reading the Zohar? No, no, and no.

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

Why believe anything in the Old Testament or the Tanakh, Or any of it… What does a nice poetry in their good stories if you historical things that are probably true and the whole national ethology. Nothing wrong with it Pierre if you’re born into it might as well go with it. But why should anyone else ever believe it?

[@nicolediamond8273]

The concept of original sin is also in the Old Testament, the Hebrew Bible. The original sinner was Adam, who had been created perfect by God, but who chose to sin. As a result of Adam's sin, all men die, because all men are created in Adam's image. You're ignoring your own scripture, Tovia.

[@menmustchangebeforekingdoms]

@nicolediamond8273 - Sorry, but "Adam was NOT the original sinner". It is Written: "And Adam was NOT deceived, but the WOMAN being deceived WAS IN THE TRANSGRESSION." (1st Timothy 2:14)

[@nicolediamond8273]

@menmustchangebeforekingdoms , Exactly! Adam was not deceived, he intentionally and knowingly sinned, making him the original sinner. Eve, on the other hand, was tricked. Because she was so young and inexperienced, she was naive, which is exactly why Satan targeted her to try to get to Adam through her. It worked. Adam chose her over God. Adam chose to sin. Adam is the original sinner.

[@DrD2You]

Original sin is a false doctrine of the idolatrous church. However, you are correct in that Adam was the transgressor because Eve had not been commanded by G'd.

[@menmustchangebeforekingdoms]

@@DrD2You - No "Dr. Delusional", EVE was in the transgression, (1st Timothy 2:14), and she knew very well she was NOT to eat from the tree, (Genesis 3:3) !! And you're going to write a BOOK ?? Hahahahahhahhaa !!

[@nicolediamond8273]

@DrD2You , Adam was made in God's perfect image. Seth was made in Adams imperfect image. Seth inherited Adams imperfection. That's inherited weakness for sin. Yes, Adam was held responsible because he was not tricked. Adam chose to sin.

[@fasted8468]

Yeah thats silly I agree. Jesus words have the power to cast down the synagogue of satan. Why look at David? More Jesus, lesstalking

[@u.y.3643]

That guy’s been dead for over 2,000 years.

[@DrD2You]

@@u.y.3643 If he existed outside of the imaginations of whoever wrote the nt, yes.

[@DrD2You]

Jesus was a very flawed man, if he existed. The words of Jesus are no stronger than the words of Fitzwilliam Darcy or any other fictional character.