Cold War Jets Walkaround 2 - Tornado F3 & MiG 25 Foxbat

Cold War Jets Walkaround 2 - Tornado F3 & MiG 25 Foxbat

[@gazof-the-north5708]

The Foxbat was a work horse not a show pony. It had a very powerful radar. The MiG-25RB was the best variant. The high speed, high altitude recon bomber.

[@electronicallyscannedarray]

MiG-25 Foxbat, truly a chad.

[@blueskys6265]

Unbelievably cool. Amazing to see the rough edges of the Foxbat.

[@clubtcb]

3:33 I like how the Mach indicator puts Mach 1 almost at the very beginning of the scale

[@mynameisray]

I do love the Foxbat, it's a really close second to the Tomcat in my list of favorite aircraft.

[@AuntieSunny]

You sir have a nice taste! Foxbat and Tomcat are timeless Cold War icons in terms of visually alone...

[@clubtcb]

When compairing the Mig 25 to the tornado, you have to keep in mind that the foxbat was one of a kind. No other soviet aircraft were constructed like that.

[@dantaylor7344]

My all time favourite aircraft, beast.

[@busche1]

The Mig is a Monster ! Thats all .

[@cfrincon]

Fascinating contrast between two distinct manufacturing philosophies.

[@DogMediaLife]

Fabulous video, and a great insight to seeing the MIG-25 up so close, bravo :)

[@allgood6760]

Thank you👍🇳🇿

[@and321now]

Great vid, thanks for sharing. It was made from nickel steel however - not stainless steel. Nickel steel is a chemical element with some unique properties which aid in heat transference. Stainless steel is an alloy containing both iron, chromium, and nickel which is different.

[@cristiandemirel1918]

Those engine nozzles on the Mig look like they came off the Space Shuttle!

[@GohokuMaru]

They are welded because all you see is a caisson tank made of VNS-2 steel. Which is a supporting structure in an airplane - everything else is just hung up on it. But in general, as for me, this is icomparison of the incomparisonable. MiG-25 was created primarily as an element of air defense of the country. Hence the requirements for speed - to chase after all sorts of SR -71, U -2 and looming B-58 and other Valkyries or prevent B-52 to make a "Dropshot".

[@occamsrazor7939]

👍🏼 Thank you

[@ka-bot15achannelaboutaviat53]

This MiG-25RBS was produced in 1978, in 1979 there was some kind of accident (in East Germany, where he was serving), after which it was transported to Riga, where served as a ground simulator at a military flight school. After the collapse of the USSR, it became the property of Latvia, which sold it at auction. It was bought by Finnish Engineer Mikael Oja, who managed to keep it perfectly, spending a lot of time and money. He should be thanked for this. In Finland, the plane was at Tampere airfield. In the spring of 2016, M. Oja sold this aircraft to this museum, having received guarantees that the museum would take proper care of the aircraft. On May 6, 2016, the MiG-25 was delivered to the museum. There is a video of delivery to the museum on my channel

[@mig21pilot]

All true Ka-bot. We also spent 2 years trying to track this man down to inquire about his Mig-23MLD but nobody can find him or the plane.

[@ka-bot15achannelaboutaviat53]

@@mig21pilot His MiG-23MLD at the Menkijärvi airfield and he himself is there regularly.

[@GammaZeta]

Great video thanks for posting

[@jaroslawziedarski6913]

Soviet tech MiG 25! 1973 Flying reconesans Israel operations 31 km Mach 3

[@chrisj2848]

Wow thanks for the close look at the Mig-25 Chris! Welded!? That is amazing. Your F3 looks fantastic in there beside it, I'm glad it found a good covered home.

[@obozrevatel2478]

Amazing Foxbat and Foxhound😍😍

[@bEEBO178]

Excellent. Thanks!

[@mig21pilot]

The Mig-25 is an incredible design. The cockpit is not much different from the 21 or Mig-23 cockpit.

[@oot007]

2 legendary planes

[@paulhickie9148]

The Mig-25 is made from 80% nickel-steel alloy.

[@alfonsolucas6908]

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[@andresaries9267]

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[@dababycar2899]

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[@edwardglenn9310]

Thanks great video. I love Cold War era jets.

[@Replika2000]

I've seen one from up close. I always knew it was huge, but when you see those nozzles you understand it properly. Close to it was a Mig-29 and it looked like a baby... In fact for anyone reading this and if you like this stuff, try to take a look up close to the Mi-6 & Mi-26, crazy how big they are...

[@sundelight8230]

Mig 25 is a beast

[@garryyoung8945]

What a brilliant video. Thank you for this.

[@LunarJim69]

Brilliant interesting video. Thanks!

[@UOttawaScotty]

Amazing video, thanks so much

[@AuntieSunny]

Pretty wild that something mass longer and heavier than every carnivore dinosaurs could accelerates and flys mach 3.2 at its maximum velocity potential!

[@sebywest3736]

big exellent video,tnx...🤗🤗

[@ike4334]

Great post thank you impressive

[@gustavosanchez1770]

Me encanta el Mig35

[@marruecos73]

Mig-25

[@pillowsocket]

Awesome how intact the MiG cockpit is. A very interesting aircraft, brute force speed kind of feeling.

[@johncunningham4820]

Yep Brute Force . Plenty of it .

[@EnterpriseXI]

There needs to be more cold war jets and flying condition and private hands are in museums

[@NorceCodine]

Its hard to believe that some Iraqi pilots with a MiG-25 successfully engaged in dogfight F-18s and F-15s.

[@thethirdman225]

Not hard to believe at all. In combat, the result will probably depend more on the pilot than anything else.

[@brinsonharris9816]

There was one F-18 (Speicher) downed by a MiG-25 missile, but there was no dogfight. Spike never knew what hit him. No F-15 has ever been downed by an enemy plane.

[@thethirdman225]

@@brinsonharris9816 That depends on who you believe. These days anyone who dares question that latter claim is pilloried for it and their sources decried as incompetent or biased. There is an account from 1981 of at least one Israeli F-15 being shot down. There was also a fight between a pair of F-15Es and a pair of Iraqi MiG-25s in 1991 where the latter gave at least as good as they got - certainly more than was expected of them - and one F-15E was lost, though not until after the fight was over. These sorts of things are invariably hijacked by nationalism and flame wars are inevitable. The US government is never going to admit losses at the pointy end and neither are the Israelis. So in the end, we are completely in the dark on this and nobody can know for sure. But it is always prudent to maintain a healthy level of scepticism.

[@karlwalker1771]

DAVID and GOLITHE LOL :)

[@caspercat39]

The engine intakes of n the foxbat are massive, nice video, where was it taken?

[@DJEDzTV]

pretty sure that MIG would just start up and ready for take off..

[@gazof-the-north5708]

Not joking, assuming its fluid levels were right it probably would!. Russian aircraft are known for being rugged!.

[@l.b.3416]

And fall apart in the air.

[@thethirdman225]

@@l.b.3416 Nope. That wasn’t one of their traits. In fact, they were very reliable. The OP is probably right, since the Foxbat was a dedicated interceptor on immediate notice.

[@thethirdman225]

@@allena5545 No, that isn’t true. The Tumanski R-15D had a runaway fuel pump problem. It’s not the only engine to have had it. The trouble was that at high speeds, the engine would suck fuel in at such a rate that the pump could not limit it. The result was that the turbine inlet temperatures would damage both the inlet guide vanes and the turbine blades because they would exceed their thermal limits, resulting in them being scrapped. This problem was fixed for the R-15D-300 and later, which also had longer TBOs (though still a lot less than western engines).. Stories of the engine ”destroying itself” are an internet thing. The early reports which this story came from centred around Israeli radar tracking a Soviet operated MiG-25 being flown on a reconnaissance mission over the Sinai Desert in 1971. The speed was estimated at M3.2. But if the engines had been “destroyed”, the aircraft would certainly have crashed and that did not happen. Other stories about parts melting are also wrong. Exceeding an engine’s thermal limits doesn’t mean parts melt but it drastically reduces fatigue life and can affect the structure of the metal, thus weakening it in the long term.

[@thethirdman225]

@@allena5545 No, it’s not a fact. At that speed, ingesting parts would cause an explosion. Ever see what happens when a compressor blade breaks? The whole aircraft would have been destroyed and we wouldn’t just be talking about the engines. Besides, the runaway fuel pump is documented in Yefim Gordon’s book on the MiG-25 and MiG-31.

[@lingolicious]

i think of cars in comparison... the mig is like a rat rod muscle car compared to the f3. i love the look of both of them but the mig is my favourite. seeing those weldings make me smile... in a good way.

[@rdenovan1]

Foxbat interceptor version [p] had 300 liters of vodka for cooling the electronics, and to celebrate successful missions!!!

[@georgetaylor4719]

Interesting backstory behind that. Back in the early 1970's, Soviet VVS ground crewmen were illicitly siphoning-off and selling supplies of the MiG-25's almost 100% pure grain ethyl alcohol, which was used as coolant in the aircraft's avionics bays. The hot-running and extremely powerful vacuum-tube, (analogue), technology 'Smerch' AI radar of the early-model MiG-25P 'Foxbat A' consumed a great deal of it each time it was used on high-altitude training missions. The aircraft was known informally as "The Flying Restaurant" to it's ground crews at the time. Once this news finally reached the Soviet Air Force high-ups, they ordered methyl, or "denatured", alcohol mixed in with the original ethyl-based coolant alcohol. This made it deadly to consume, and stopped the widespread theft and off-base sales of it that occurred from 1971-75...😉

[@paralentor]

Still the fastest fighter jet of all time and it looks it.

[@roadhigher]

*Fastest combat aircraft. The Foxbat isn't a Fighter Jet, its a purebred Interceptor.

[@georgetaylor4719]

@@roadhigher It was primarily designed as a Bomber Interceptor. But it was more than capable of engaging and destroying fighters outside of a low-speed turning dogfight scenario. In fact, the Foxbat's kill list consists of two later 4th Generation American-designs, 1 F-15A, 1 F/A-18A, and even a low-altitude APQ-142 Predator drone!

[@adityawaglearch]

MIG-25..A demon of a fighter plane.. Fabulous to see close up.. Otherwise, very few photographs are available..

[@ivanski28]

Now that you explained it's in Estonia it makes more sense they'd have a Foxbat, the version there is one of the reconnaissance ones, the lack of camera openings undersidethe nose suggests it's the later 25RBS with airborne radar. More of a mystery is where they get the Tornado F3 from ???

[@RadioactiveSaddam]

Air Forces sometimes give away planes when they are planning to retire them. They seek out museums that wanna take care of them, in that way they don't need to scrap so many.

[@LOTFI__TECH]

the mig-25 is still in service in some countries

[@steveetienne]

YF12A is the fastest fighter/interceptor plane ever built. Sure there were only 3 built and never in service but they still existed! Plus the Mig 25 could only make quick sprints over mach 3 whereas all members of the Blackbird family could cruise at mach 3+ for hours

[@zhao1008]

steveetienne As you mentioned the yf-12 was a prototype that never entered service which makes the mig-25 the fastest jet fighter to enter service. Furthermore, the yf-12 would have never been practical to use as an interceptor considering how long it takes to prepare one for take off and how much maintenance it required. In comparison the mig 25 was much more practical to use as an interceptor.

[@steveetienne]

Zhao100 we don't know the real performance details of the F22. I for one would not be surprised if it was mach 3 capable.

[@thethirdman225]

Forget the YF-12A. It was an adaptation of the SR-71 which was designed to be on station, not to scramble and climb to 70,000 feet in three minutes. The YF-12A could never have done that and was way too expensive which is why the Air Force gave it a miss.

[@thethirdman225]

@@steveetienne No way. Not with simple pitot inlets. That kind of performance is not needed anymore. The F-22 is completely irrelevant to this. It was designed to perform a completely different role and in a completely different era.

[@ianmangham4570]

Nickel Alloy very exotic hard to weld

[@matjazrems4781]

niceee, guitar maker M.Rems, Slovenia

[@latelly1460]

Is it at Estonia, Tartu city?

[@VIPER03100]

Massive fabrication differences lead me to believe that if you take an angle grinder and flush away the weldings the mig would be a lot faster. In comparison with the Tornado the Mig is like a "racing cow" Thank you sir for the video.

[@dantaylor7344]

the mig would be a lot faster? Hell no those rough welds keep the damned thing together! All welds lose structural integrity the more you polish away and flush finish them. This is how the Mig is meant to be.

[@johncunningham4820]

I had the same thought . Flush the Welds and Rivets . And Polish the thing up . Or a Ceramic Coating? Another 1 or 2 hundred klicks .

[@user-yz2md5mr3x]

Частная коллекция?

[@TheOneTrueSpLiT]

One has to admit while not being as refined as the western aircraft manufacturers, them ruskies really did produce some mighty impressive warbirds. Me, I've always been a huge fan despite being from the UK and having worked on avionic systems for C-17, F-5, F-16, GR4 and Eurofighter. One thing tho, why do they always have that horrid blue cockpits???!!!

[@harrisonsmith4625]

The blue is to ease the strain on pilots eyes, and it's was found to be a soothing color which is one theory I've heard tossed around, kind of like a precursor to mood lighting

[@TheOneTrueSpLiT]

@@harrisonsmith4625 Thanks for that, and just out of interest I've noticed that the pilot's cockpit of the Mil Mi-35 is black, I'm assuming that's due to the fact it is an export version of the Mi-24 and whomever is buying them does not appreciate the greenie-blue hue that the "indigenous" Mi-24s have.

[@gdfggggg]

It amazes me how that Foxbat even gets off the ground given the materials used, but then you see those massive exhausts and you get it. The Mpg must have been pretty poor given the weight and those huge engines?

[@thethirdman225]

The MiG-25 was designed to a very specific purpose: to intercept the expected North American B-70 which never went into service. This totally dictated the design from the ground up. The engines have been derided as being crude because they were a single shaft turbojet, rather than a turbofan. This is because a turbojet works best at high altitude and high Mach. The airframe was - believe it or not - the smallest airframe which could accommodate two Tumansky R-15D engines, the fuel they needed and the biggest radar they could field. When used by the book - either as an interceptor or a high altitude reconnaissance platform - it is very efficient. But because it is right in one corner of aircraft design, there are some things it does better than anything else out there but it has little flexibility. And as you surmised, it’s not very fuel efficient. Not efficient at all, in fact. You couldn’t do CAP in a MiG-25 because it doesn’t have the endurance. You can’t do air superiority because of fuel, payload/range and manoeuvre characteristics. But if you needed to intercept a high flying bomber at high Mach, this is what you want. Needless to say, the mission isn’t a high priority for anyone any more and most air forces have retired them.

[@gdfggggg]

@@thethirdman225 well thank you very much 👍🏻

[@thethirdman225]

@@gdfggggg No worries.

[@thethirdman225]

@@gdfggggg Oh, I meant to mention that the primary reason it was built from steel was heat tolerance at high speed. Aluminium doesn’t cut it at those speeds.

[@victorfidelis3]

Mig 25, f 15, tornado, f 14,... yooo same gens

[@kjm-ch7jc]

You Guyzzzzzzz

[@mig21pilot]

Could she fly again?

[@ronaldrt]

The Tornado was undeniably a more beautiful aircraft

[@super1337bf3ordie]

wouldent the mig 25 engines melt when it got that fast

[@Kelly4370]

The MiG-25 "Foxbat" was designed for speeds of Mach 2.8 - Mach 3.0 to chase down the 'North American' XB-70 'Valkyrie" Bomber 'Prototype' that was cancelled... It wasn't able to maintain the travel altitude of the Valkyrie & had to do a 'Hit/Miss' Attack Aches to threaten the Valkyrie. Due to the size & the high heat portions of the air frame, a lot of the fuselage was made of Titanium/Steel to take the heat. This gave the Foxbat, extra weight, a Very Short Range, & it can only do a small number of attack arches before fuel problems... The Foxbat used the Tumansky R-15 Engine with a 11,200 Kilogram Force using afterburner... Another problem the Foxbat sometimes had with the R-15 was called "Engine Runaway" when it got to speeds 2.9 or faster... The engine would start accelerating, wouldn't stop, & would get the aircraft to speeds of Mach 3.1-3.2 .... When the aircraft landed, if it was able, the engines would have to be totally replaced. I recommend a Great Book > "MiG Pilot", the story of Lt. Viktor Belenko defecting in a MiG-25 to Japan... :D !!!

[@mig21pilot]

We have found that Victor Belenko was the only person saying this. Discussions with Foxbat pilots and Engineers IMPLICITLY state that in over 40 years of operation,engines did not runaway, nor did they melt or blow up. The R-15B had one of the first electrical FADACs to control this. Please see Ka-Bots video on the R-15, I think you may be surprised.

[@frederickastorgav7991]

Soviets were more roman, whilst GB did a better engineered and more flexible warbird.

[@juanpablovalderrabanoherna5663]

Where is that?

[@jetartaviation]

It's the Estonian Aviation Museum www.lennundusmuuseum.ee/en/

[@michaelszczekot8920]

What is up with that green on the interior. I think I’ve seen that color inside every Soviet aircraft of that era. There must be a story

[@moody9566]

I have heard it gives the pilot more relaxation. 🙌🏼

[@johncunningham4820]

Is that BULLETHOLES on the LHS of the Foxbat ? ! Foxbat is like a Tank that Flies , VERY FAST , by comparison . 10 years difference in age . Different technologies in play . Still they do say " Ain't no replacement for Displacement . Foxbat is still probably the Fastest WARPLANE ever made . Mach 3.2 confirmed . SR-71 did 3.3 , with better Range . Brute Force one-upmanship at it's Most Spectacular .

[@thethirdman225]

Don’t compare it to the SR-71. They were designed to totally different purposes. The MiG might be adaptable to reconnaissance but the SR-71 wasn’t adaptable to the kind of interception role the MiG was intended for.

[@johncunningham4820]

@@thethirdman225 : The ONLY thing I was comparing was the Top Speeds . SR had significantly more range . Slightly Higher ceiling . Foxbat was built to INTERCEPT it . Similar Speed and Ceiling . Correct timing of Take-off Gets the MIG to Height and Track with the Capability of getting Missile Lock . Game Over .

[@thethirdman225]

@@johncunningham4820 Oh, okay. The trouble is you get so many people who just want to outbid and the conversation gets sidetracked into a pissing contest. The interception plan the VVS used involved both the MiG-25 and the MiG-31. That was covered - with interviews - in Paul Crickmore's book, _"Lockheed Blackbird: Beyond the secret missions"._ If you've already read it then please feel free to ignore me.

[@johncunningham4820]

@@thethirdman225 No Probs . The 31 came later and from all reports could fly ABOVE the SR . Not as fast as the 25 but with BOTH in the Sky Sr-71's time had come . I wasn't trying for a Pissing contest . Just many people on here seem to be Deliberately obtuse to try and START one .

[@thethirdman225]

@@johncunningham4820 I have never heard that the MiG-31 could fly higher than the SR-71. The use of turbofans instead of turbojets would tend not to support that.

[@cowboyforadalei4415]

Where are this place, address?

[@siniraag]

Estonian Aviation Museum Veskiorg, Lange, Kastre vald, 62115 Tartumaa N58°17’16.5″, E26°45’51.01″

[@cowboyforadalei4415]

When i get money i will see theses beauties

[@737Garrus]

Americans: *Makes precision engineering plane * Russians: *Literally welds wings onto ship *

[@georgetaylor4719]

Ees Rossian Aeroplan. Eet fly wery high, wery fast, and eet shoots beeg meesils at Kapeetaleest bombers. Vhat more you vant, tovarisch? 😉

[@thethirdman225]

Designed to a very specific purpose and designed to be serviced by raw recruits in austere environments. To that end it’s very good.

[@PashaDefragzor]

It was a hijacked unit MiG-25 ?

[@aabb-zz9uw]

The mig 25 is almost entirely made from plain steel while the tornado is aircraft aluminum alloy plus some composites.

[@paulhickie9148]

It’s 80% nickel steel alloy.

[@forten07]

Rename video. This is MiG-25RBS- МиГ-25РБС

[@EdWood1st]

If any of you get the chance read the book Mig Pilot. It’s the story of Soviet pilot Viktor Belenko who defected with a Mig 25 to Japan in 1976 The Soviets were really POd and wanted their aircraft and pilot back We gave it back to them alright, in big crates. But we kept Viktor because he really wanted to stay and experience real freedom But after our people took the plane apart they realized what an inferior plane it really was Belenko himself admitted that every time it flew at just Mach 1 the engines were ruined It’s main reason for existing was to get the B 70 Valkyrie But the story of ViktorBelenkos disillusionment with communism is a great story in itself! He tells of growing up in the Soviet Union and as he grew he could see more and more of the corruption and lies of the Soviet hierarchy A true telling of life under Soviet communism And his reaction when he got to America and compared it to his former life Priceless Wow Sorry to ramble Its a great read You should check it out

[@planetfun85]

I wouldnt listen to a traitor.

[@samuraisamurai41]

И тем более читать бред предателя, непонятно кем отредактированый

[@michaelszczekot8920]

The fox at was a pig it went fast but that was about it

[@DJEDzTV]

MIG

[@wasp9245]

F3 govno

[@nealrcn]

Well at least in a pinch the GR3 could fight another fighter. The Mig 25 not so much

[@tonylockhart1963]

GR3?????

[@BC-wj8fx]

Not so much?? When did a GR3 shoot down an F-18 equivalent? When did a GR3 score a crippling blow to an F-15 equivelent? For a pure interceptor, MiG-25 has an impressive record for fighting fighters.

[@moody9566]

Tornado was a failure 😞.

[@BlvxkByrd]

Mach 3.2 capable but would rarely ever hit those speeds and it certainly wasnt the Foxbat's operational speed. Anytime they pushed it over something like 2.5 it would suffer massive engine problems, sometimes even resulting in damages to the engine that were beyond repair. The Foxbat was an answer to the SR71 but the difference in engineering is simply insanity. The Foxbat is a great plane by itself but dwarfed by the SR-71, created to catch a plane it couldn't ever even come close to.

[@vitaliyavt6397]

Сразу видно что F3 сделан более качественно чем МИГ-25! Минимум сварных сварных швов, клёппных заплаток и прочей кустарщины! Что и говорить в те годы, а сейчас культура ещё ниже плинтуса вот и летает Россия на самолётах СССР!

[@user-me4fb2xy8y]

เครื่องบินลักษณะนี้มันซับซ้อนต้องซ่อมดูแลรักษาอย่างดีเอาแบบปีกตึงดีกว่า

[@l.b.3416]

I never would depend my life on a soviet aircraft, maybe on a post-soviet version. You are quite naive when you think that this can be a reliable machine. Noone can control rust, moisture, fatique and bad maintenance and production quality in general as the kursk disaster has shown quite clearly.

[@moskoviaulus281]

Ludwig Bölkow You wrote this due to your lack of competence on the matter. The Mig-25 in its time was a very good, forgiving, easy-to-fly and reliable robust high-altitude bird excellent for the purpose of interception and reconnaissance it had been designed for. It just hadn't time to be used the way it had been intended to play. Because reconnaissance space satellites on one side and the relocation of the operational area from the stratosphere to lower altitudes on the other made it unemployed soon after it was introduced.

[@thethirdman225]

It absolutely was a reliable machine. Far more reliable, in fact, than anyone in the West will ever admit to. The construction was high grade nickel steel and stainless steel so it was very rust resistant and you can be sure the designers took this into account in the maintenance schedule. If someone offered me a chance to go up in say, a MiG-31, I’d jump at it.

[@f-20tigershark18]

That's way too much propaganda for you buddy, they Soviets actually made very good aircraft more than you actually think.