Classic WoW: Protection Paladin Guide (Part 1) - Talents, AoE Rotations, Tips & Tricks

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[@kargozgaming]

Hi guys I'm really hoping to get more videos out again instead of just stream vods. There is still a lot left to discuss with regard to pally so this will likely be part 1 of a series. Thanks for all your support over the years, this youtube channel/community is small but its my most cherished asset that im really proud of so thanks for making this a reality for me..talk to u guys later

[@nunogoncalini6064]

Part 1 is awesome, im lvling one atm almost 41 to start the grind, it would be awesome if u could talk a bit about the starting weaps and shields that we could look at 41 like a entry lvl gear for aoe farming, flurry axe asap but what about the rest? Ty for your time sir and gl, your content is one of the best in classic and im glad its not just a "bwl items are busted"

[@JediFrog]

If Paladin AOE farming is about reflect damage, then would a Paladin + Druid healer AOE farm be good with druid thorns? How big of a pack could you pull like that?

[@ovgol.bolofar]

4.5 years later and I just wanna thank you for making this. The casual way that you break it down works so well for me. I'm getting into Classic after years away from WoW (I started in late TBC) and trying to make a Prot Pally for tanking has been very discouraging. I realize now that I won't be able to put it all together so early and I need to level as RET and then swap over, and you've explained the best way to do that. I appreciate such a chill and practical guide. Got my sub!

[@kargozgaming]

Glad to hear, thank you very much!

[@Samuraiyann]

watching this in preparation of seasons of mastery. I loved the guide! totally hyped out of my mind

[@Lazris59]

Same!

[@anthony_is_away]

I keep seeing you running around Stormwind on this character and every time I’m like, “oh hey look it’s Kargoz!”

[@harvestor6404]

I literally recommend your guides to everyone who plays wow.

[@kargozgaming]

Thank you very much!

[@SenpaiTheExplorer]

Honestly I wish there were more guides JUST like this one that were filled with great information with this "bare bones" sort of setup. Typically, when I watch guides I usually get way to distracted by the corny jokes, the background music that is usually to loud, all the animations and cuts, etc etc... it just makes it hard to focus on the information being shared. So I seriously appreciate this guide a lot thank you so much!

[@Abby_wa]

Kargoz man you've made my 2020 so far. I just hit 51 on my paladin, AoE farming, I'm getting nub gains since I started working out again and intermittent fasting... you helped more than you could know dude, thanks.

[@Templarboi]

Thought it was a stream notification at first, but so glad to see it's the pally guide instead :D

[@dudeshamus1451]

Same bro lmao! Low key wish it was a stream though.

[@sek9777]

Love to see it, all fellas are here! I was hoping for stream too. Regardless, great guide as always Kargoz!

[@dudeshamus1451]

@@sek9777 gang gang bruh

[@sek9777]

It's not low-production value, great guide. Also, Paladin levelling streams were really fun and relaxing(compared to other classes).

[@mayintusk]

Lovin these videos man, glad to see you're bringing it back

[@lorettarowell8486]

This is great. thanks for breaking down the talents and explaining why you choose the ones that you do and what purpose they have. You always have such informative and fun guides to learn by . looking forward to part 2 !

[@TheAlPaca02]

Any chance on a part 2 m8? Would be great to have some spots covered

[@lunakai_360]

You're great at articulating your sentences and keeping the commentary interesting. This is the first video of your's I've watched but I definitely feel you deserve the sub.

[@mattiasappelquist7757]

FYI, if you read the skill it specificly says you get more mana by keeping SoW active on yourself for melee attacks, but if you judge the target it also affects spells.

[@seppmaler8434]

I like it. I realy want to learn how to paladin. What i miss most is how to tank as a paladin. How can you hold aggro against all out dpsers? Shall i sanct them all before the pull? How to keep the boss standing on you and not running for the dps or the healer? Keep in mind that i'm in leveling stage right now. Means i'm talking dungeons without the perfect gear. No enchants. Just plain leveling.

[@crodd92]

Thank you for this guide, I am currently leveling my paladin and this guide has been very helpful. I would love to see a more in depth guide on prot pally in a part 2.

[@theDeadcellspawn]

Your vids inspired me to pick my paladin back up after dropping the char after the first couple weeks at lvl33. Loving the solo aoe leveling even though it can be frustrating at times on a high pop pvp server. Prices of Flurry Axe on my server range from 6-700g+ but one item recommendation I have for new 41s trying the build out is Mug O' Hurt (~5g). 1.5 speed Mace that also has a chance to daze on hit is helpful while fighting humanoids that run or when getting a big pack together and trying to avoid getting dazed yourself. Only a few more levels to 60 then I will get my warlock main to farm the rest of the gold needed for Flurry Axe

[@TomDrinksalot]

Ah yea man, Kargoz bringing back the full galaxy brain guides. Ya love to see it.

[@southboundguitar]

Humans spin when SoC procs, too. Great video. I 100% agree with you on sit-proc'n. It does work....but it's not efficient, at all. You lose far too much life, before you can even drop one reck-bomb.

[@danielkrsticevic5579]

Hey man really enjoy this laid back video, definitely shows you know your stuff. Keep them coming man, huge fan

[@alexchism5192]

Really liked the video bro it was a lot more chill and less scripted.

[@lemonsquidsec]

"You love to see it... unless you don't love to see it " It do be like that.

[@euclid1997]

Sweet this is exactly what I wanted/needed to hear. With classic relaunch, I got a couple of newbie friends (to classic classic) and I was wondering what class to go to help them see the game best, im gonna be lvling with them. One playing mage one playing Lock. I couldnt decide between druid, warrior, pally or priest. You saying what you said about pallys being best to boost friends just sold me

[@kargozgaming]

Glad I could help!

[@tab2457]

6:38 Starting built RE 12:25 Alternative 15:00 AOE

[@cocopuffgames]

Just learned so much about how to AOE Pally. I was intimidated to try as a Wow Classic noob, but this gave me enough good solid info that I love playing this build. You've earned my subscription today.

[@Treaxvour]

I really regret not being dwarf...

[@Getcrow]

Love the videos! Watched your 3.5 hour video with Lesstorr yesterday and now this one. I feel like leveling a 2nd Pally to 60 now :D

[@suspicioussalad5578]

Seal of command judgement is also considered a melee attack for the sake of crit meaning it will deal 2x and crit based on melee crit. Another reason to use higher ranks. Because a stunned crit is 4x dmg

[@OSRSSco]

Great guide kargos love the vids keep up the great work

[@DrWarcraft]

14:20 "Some ppl like to go glass canon, full yolo, zug zug all day" Hahaha ive never heard this before. Describes perfectly how i play ret in retail pvp -full meathead mode. Made me LOL. Gg man. Great vid to watch if ur leveling a prot paladin which im doing slowly, alresdy have a ret main. Never enoigh paladins.

[@bhelockharyh2969]

Nice job as always, like the format and the thumbnail too!

[@Treaxvour]

Really good guide on basic pally grinding. Good job 👍

[@ryanroberts1758]

Been rocking out with a deep holy/prot build. With current content on farm for our guild, acquiring neat and niche pieces has been easy. Looking forward to the prot grind future.choosing between the two got too exspensive. It’s just too much fun not to dive into prot aoe grinding. GGs mate nice guide

[@flowermaze___]

Thanks. If I’m a pally with no main and no money, best strat for gear? First time pally, figuring it out as I go! And to be sure, RET for the first levels and then switch to Holy Prot for 40+ If I wanna mainly do solo and as many dungeons on the way up, whats the best talent spec for that?

[@djhanger3035]

What do you think of pallytime videos? I think hes been spot on and gets hate for no reason. He brings up topics such as wisdom and weapon speed that others claim arent correct even though hes done extensive research.

[@cycy9154]

Sadly not playing classic anymore myself, rip :( However this vid is still useful for TWoW 🐢 Tyvm for a quality vid ^^

[@kargozgaming]

Glad I could help!

[@MivaYT]

Nice guide! I usually get first 13 in Retritubion ( SoC + movement speed ), then 11 holy ( str, SoR and consecrate because I swal twist a lot and I apply SoR all the time ), and then I usually go 8 prot to get 3% hit, it sure slows my build but I honestly think getting 3% hit at lvl 40ish boost my leveling up to 60 because I can fight mobs at my lvl, or 1 lvl higher or so, without missing too much

[@bolzerhc5404]

These guides are the bis for tips and tricks for getting through hardcore wow, rip the lvl 18 orc sham long live the lvl 15 human Paladin lets go!

[@davemustang8173]

I'm not gonna kid myself and try to raid as one, BUT For Season of Mastery, is it possible to tank dungeons as a paladin?

[@SAKRAYx]

So how many times do you judgement per mob stack? do you just apply wisdom judgement on 1 mob and keep autoattacking? Also is it better to use wisdom active over righteousness after wisdom judge?

[@MrFrazzleDazzle]

Wish there was a better image of the final talent build. Kinda hard to follow when jumping around in conversation. Overall great guide and I wanna try, but I gotta get the talents down

[@aidasmatulaitis5175]

Why do you in the home with hat ?

[@lukadjordjevic2861]

Itemization would be great...i only know prot pallys from 2.4.3 tbc where u go with spelldmg gear and weapon. Would be interesting to know if this is the case in vanilla to.

[@nicksander]

He metioned it a few times, but he recommends just Stamina and Intellect :)

[@robertp457]

There is one Paladin tanking set: deathbone.

[@Oscar-pm9bx]

Luka! What talents would i recommened for aoe lvling in tbc, and stat prio, so plate gear with stam > sp cloth/leather etc. Much love

[@matthewcovell9118]

Liked the vid. Looking forward to part 2.

[@nothankyou4859]

shaman main here, really wish i could make a pally alt!

[@henkarars]

if you do, specc holy.. find aoe groups with warriors. Because solo lvling paladin is horrible boring until lvl 30+

[@ryanroberts1758]

Feel the same way about shaman as a pally 😭

[@zach9981]

This is just what I needed I just hit 41 thanks kargoz!

[@ZarisWhiteFoot]

Good video, thanks for the information!

[@TaraKaos]

Really enjoyed this, id love to see it from a healer perspective, AKA AOE grind out in the world and be a healing Goddess in dungeons. I did a leveling path where the first 13 are all ret for SOC and POJ, and then go all holy after that.

[@tinafisher]

well done Kargoz, enjoy everything you do!

[@dudeshamus1451]

Thanks for this man!

[@hunterosborne2373]

Kargoz, my man, we suspected this was gonna be a scuffed paladin guide, but you clapped it! Clapped this guide's cheeks! You totally max-maxed this twink's gear with fiery Fiery war axe, Fiery Flurry axe and skull flame shield. I wouldn't expect most casuals, raid loggers, noobs, or hardcore players to go full zug-zug as well as you go full zug-zug. Am I using the lingo correctly? Let's do some hugeee death rolling again soon, goldfish!

[@seanburke6445]

Sheesh, this was hard to read. Do you ever think about this comment?

[@axo4383]

Do i go Consecratrioon or holy Shield first for dungeons?

[@GIRO1989LOL]

FYI: There's a quest in the badlands that gives you a fiery enchant for free. I didn't know and it felt like Christmas when I got it!

[@hunterosborne2373]

alliance only yah?

[@GIRO1989LOL]

@@hunterosborne2373 afraid so :(

[@creepyypaper1438]

Damn. Wish I went dwarf also.

[@vipershotz1457]

would you recommend this for leveling?

[@roffe8751]

If you dont care about tanking in general, but only want to AoE grind, beeing holy is actually viable. I like having holy shock to pull and do instant heal. Also beeing able to do a free crit holy light on yourself makes it able to take on lots of mobs at a time. Sure you miss out on blessing of sanc (it is however possible to go holy but skipping holy shock and go for sanc instead). If you are a healer in raids this saves you 100 gold extra per week when you dont have to respec. Now I do have massivly better gear than the paladin in this video so it isnt really comparable, but I am able to take on a HUGE number of mobs at a time. My guildies love me for my boosting potential. And I make lots of gold (even though I dont charge guildies ofc).

[@jimis1970]

Missed your guides man ♥

[@jamesbaggett3655]

In a full raid like mc id say prot is a wasted spot, but ony and some world bosses it works. A pally with aq gear can tank zg and thats the whole story.

[@fmls8266]

If you are not min maxing there is no such thing as "a wasted spot". Not everyone is aiming to clear MC in 30 minutes, some people just wanna have fun, while still clearing the raid with no issues.

[@boomer2039]

wich stats we want to have for AOE leveling ?

[@theperfectbeing]

Watching this on my 2nd monitor while i lasher farm on my dwarf prot pally :P

[@bowman1248]

Go do Zevrim and Alzzin (too half health) too!

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

Is this a video!!!¿??

[@Whozwhodude]

Riskin it for the biscuit!!!love it man

[@olov244]

I want to see some pally mc tanking

[@Maliross]

leveling as holy is pretty beast too, save alot of mana every 2 minutes with that crit heal :P

[@matthewkeating6970]

Great vid

[@Qstorm88]

Nice vid. I'd like to see a vid like this on twinking!

[@djhanger3035]

What weapon enchant? Sp or lifesteal

[@mrSnotyify]

Have u tried the Spelladin spec? Def something u should check out if you're interested in maxing the potential of the class

[@CowGoesMeow]

Can you make a list of items that we should be on the lookout for for our pallys? For those of us that have the gold for our alt. That way we can have the best possible time during the leveling process :D

[@GoBirds93]

Definitely rollin a pally on Bloodsail buddy!

[@Midgert89]

Im using Mostly lawbringer to farm ZF graveyards. 5.5k mana and lots of healing, unfortunately not alot of spellpower since I don't have judgment peices but it works.

[@anthonyiacolino8537]

Absolutely Great Video Bud. I can tell your passion in the game and with your building of specs. A+

[@remilegendre6971]

Is ZF tomb farming possible ?

[@1MoreTurn]

Rémi Legendre i did it before i got mc gear. Lasher farms is far superior.

[@zhascha]

When i levelled my pala we did cath spam with 5 palas from 30 all the way up to 45 XD

[@nexya26]

No you didnt

[@zhascha]

@@nexya26 yea now that i read it again after 3 months i notice my foolish mistake how could someone possibly mix up scarlet monestary and scarlet monestary cathetral. Me foolish human with many flaws should commit to the art of perfectly using every single word in my 4. language really foolish of me.

[@nexya26]

Zhascha there’s also no way you levelled 15 levels with the same 4 people

[@zhascha]

@@nexya26 yesnt it was a week or so and i was in a guild with mostly paladins and about 10 were in my lvl range and we had about the same levelling pace

[@nexya26]

Zhascha haha it’s getting even more ridiculous now, just admit you lied and move on

[@PlayerSalt]

I chose a paladin for healing and never really enjoyed or played ret or prot vanilla palladin , i must say if you love healing its such a fun class , best buffs in the game , able to ignore raid mechanics , able to bop people , massive dispel , no hate on priests but pallies are the chad healers of vanilla

[@fmls8266]

I find healing quite boring honestly, I still heal when needed but tanking is much more challenging, and much more fun, both soloing or group. Retri is also much more challenging if you tryhard to do some decent damage, and much more fun in pvp. To each his own I guess!

[@seanbrunskill2866]

Been using the proc of uther's strength in my rotation... if it procs and i'm below 75-80% health, i'll cast flash of light. Usually if I time it right, the heal goes off just before the shield breaks or sometimes just after but usually spiritual focus allows me to finish casting.

[@eg6728]

what addon are you using that tracks seals and judgements?

[@judithbrouwer9108]

Was wondering about this as well

[@LemonGingerHoney]

Nice guide! I wonder about consumables and items you could use for leveling without impacting gold too much. Grenades come to my mind, for small damage boost and CC. What about crushing blows? Maybe there are some items that would help with that whilst leveling? Going for pure plate with Str + Sta could be expensive.

[@fmls8266]

Cheap potions, a good updated 2 hand weapon, bandages. Double gathering professions. At 41 go for AoE grind spec. You are gonna level super smoothly and float in gold. I ended up with way over 1k gold at 60. Don't bother too much about buying gear, you can get plenty in dungeons since you can heal, tank or dps.

[@hunterosborne2373]

The armor potions would be best, 450 armor is pretty good for super cheap, major troll's blood helps and goes for low gold. Also, elixir of agility, greater mana potions and elixir of fortitude. All of the prices are climbing at BWL hype. Of course, you have to have a mithril or thorium shield spike and appropriate enchants before any of these.

[@anthonygiammetta7752]

So where is the final spec, your dwarf is a 60 now whats the spec that you are recommending?

[@godwings101]

My favorite thing to do is go AoE reflect build and pull a fuck ton of mobs and just rot them down.

[@undertyped1]

Paladins talents were really dire in vanilla, compare it to the greatly fleshed out and optimized warrior tree, and you can see just how bad it was. There's... redoubt required you to be crit to actually work, and then there's reckoning, same thing there.

[@BlueSandwich]

Is there a part 2?

[@jba2048]

I had that shield. Nice.

[@Preacher_.]

We got a prot pally in my Guild in SoM... Dude gets INSTA threat, and can hold like 20fing whelps all at once, meanwhile, warriors can't even keep 6-7 on em.

[@mickmackam2559]

hey do you use RestedXP ?

[@JA-zw9ju]

Hey love the UI! Can you make some setup guide please?

[@lufasumafalu5069]

what private server is this ?

[@NVMiele78]

Any chance you'll make a ppt on this? Hard to follow order of ops without pausing a million times and going back.

[@marct138]

Id like to see that solofarm dme. How do you kill Zevrim?

[@fmalone03]

Please share your paladin weak auras they look great.

[@justinTime077]

What a chadbro.

[@dirkn56]

I need to known your pala aoe leveling build i did watch the stream when u ding 60 aoe grind im making a pala now

[@Coolbreeze8893]

So what sit macro do you all use for reckoning. The one i use is super wonky. And i find i do better when i use my sit key and stand up.

[@wuwi5833]

Think I might have to change the alliance Druid project to an alliance pally project 🤔

[@RaiiroGaming]

I spec Into the Holy / Ret at 31 just like you on my own lol

[@henkarars]

is precision really necessary if u play human pala? mean, you have 5% specialization already

[@robertp457]

Great video as always. I have to disagree with your claim of Redoubt being a great talent. It is one of the worst designed talents in the game. No tanking talent should need the tank to get crit to work. Also Reckoning is the worst. It sounds good, but it doesn’t work the way it should and again you need to be crit for it to function which is something you want to avoid.

[@amurjoeray2790]

Dwarf paladins ❤️❤️❤️

[@greed1sgood130]

hey, i didnt really get which talents to pick from lvl 10 if i wanna tank dungeons. can anyone give an advice which talents to pick?

[@bradleyharman2363]

Pre-BIS and BIS please