JHM Timing Chain Kit Installation Visual Walk Through - Audi B6-B7 S4 and C5 Allroad 4.2L

[@jimbob7424]

Blown away by the complexity of these engines, what a design marvel. Apart from the decision to include plastic guides of course

[@117johnpar]

Or poorly design the seals for literally every seam so every single one of these cars gushes oil out of it if you dont replace the seals every other oil change. On top of replacing the oil every 6 months. Its a very interesting engine design. Not a very good one.

[@BlackMamba08]

This guy is such an amazing Audi mechanic my goodness how much he knows I did not get tired of watching him work on this amazing engine

[@eastoakland-S65feen]

Nice. There shop is 45mins from my house. Now i know where im Gna be going for wrk on my s4

[@nanieberoin4902]

Can you show please all the timing marks

[@freshjnew]

"I've never done it before and I don't want to find out if you can"-good mechanic I see you are the type who refuses to be dumb and careless with people's expensive motors cheers

[@Someguy3.8]

Great video!!! I don't even have a 4.2 and I still saw it from beginning to end!

[@HM-rx2hx]

Get one!

[@JaliscoMe]

X2

[@mauriciobaez3645]

Amazing, I’m not a mechanic and still this guy was able to keep me paying attention till he was done like I was learning, I wasn’t, I was just mesmerized not only by his flawless command on the his job but also at the amazing engineering of today. How could men come up with such an incredible set of complex mechanism to create these engines.

[@georgeumo404]

This is one of the best dismantling and coupling videos I have watched in a while . Very good and clear compilation. Makes this whole job very easy.

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

Thanks! once the engine is out the jobs isn't too bad. just time consuming.

[@electrician1602]

I'll be doing this on my A6 next week, as a labourer, great to visualise it in advance. Watched twice now. Cheers, brilliant.

[@hbade]

The center guide was not broken on my engine at 91k miles, but it was evident that the piece was ready to give at any moment. Thanks JHM for putting up this video. I hope this inspires people to put some more care into these platforms, because they're really amazing engines and vehicles.

[@aukanmeister]

I appreciate that this is not a diy mechanic figuring stuff out on video. Thank you for doing this, and at the same time letting me know that this is best left to the pro's in my case. This engine is going to be great for many years with this fix! I'm in the market for a B7 S4 right now, and to know that this job already has been done, puts me at ease to pay significantly more for the car.

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

Glad it helped! Depending on the buying price and where the work was performed, it is definitely advised to try to find a car that has already had the timing service performed.

[@peanutbutterisfu]

I’m glad these cars are older now I will not miss doing chains on them. It’s a good paying job but a lot of work. Not many people willing to pay 10k for this job.

[@jerryclleung]

You guys make me miss my S4 Avant. She's been sitting in the garage for 4 years. After watching this, I feel like towing her across the country to you guys. Because I just don't trust anyone here in the northeast region. Maybe, I'll watch this again and again and again.... sigh

[@joshmfincarrington1195]

Jerry Leung u should consider selling/trading me ur s4 avant!...its a dam shame u have it hidden away

[@onealdavis8267]

SELL IT TO MEEE

[@eastoakland-S65feen]

@@onealdavis8267 u really lookn for 1?

[@danstarc]

Finally! You guys are the best!

[@1shredderx]

More guides than Mt Everest has Sherpas. Wicked good video!

[@NailNNY]

Great video to watch for fun. I did my own timing chains a little bit before this video came out, and I had to do it twice, because my chain had either stretched a little bit or even jumped timing when both of my guides broke (the one you show broken in the video, and the top guide for the main chain broke on mine also), And I did not check with a mirror when inserting the crank pin, I just threaded it in and tightened it. it must have missed the hole because after getting it all put together and back in the car, it was immediately throwing cam/crank correlation codes even though it sounded like it ran okay. I had to pull my engine back out and do it all over again after realizing my mistake. Still running strong now over 2 years later. did my chains at 160k~ish and the car now has 179k on it. If I ever do this job again on another car I will be sure to check with a mirror the first time. again, great video.

[@remnhem9255]

Love the song choice!! I love Adam k and Soha I listened to them throughout high school

[@fdt281]

Where do you buy those pins to hold guides after bleeding oil out? Are they included or....

[@tulaconalas]

daaammm it!!!, i found this video too late, i mess it up on my timing when i replaced the tensioners....excellent video guys.

[@cdawg9149]

Knowing that the timing chain guides were going to be a big issue with this motor, Audi should have made quick release brackets for the engine / trans so you could drop the motor in 10 minutes. That would be awesome.

[@venn105]

Awesome work, i need someone like you in the UK :-)

[@chixusmurals]

Master of the craft . Ive watched this for years now . I'm ready to do the timing chain on mine. engine out and errthang

[@paulguy8779]

Thanks so much for making this video!!! I need to do this and being able to see the whole process really helps

[@hyper_active_snail]

Can you do this job without taking out the engine? Take the top bolts and sprockets from the top and work the bottom part of the job from underneath the car while being hoisted may be? Just asking because i seen it done on a BMW... but the chain had a fairly different configuration. I really like Audi RS4 and would love to own one some day, but this job freaks the crap out of me.

[@1970borntorun]

I love this engine and am considering a 2006 S4 as we speak. HOWEVER ( !! lol ) You guys have to know that for this job, you'll need to pull the engine and access it from the rear by the Firewall. This is about $4500 - $7000 in Parts/Labor at a good European Mechanic shop. So, unless you have a lot of money laying around ( or are a very good Mechanic! ) if this happens, you may want to consider the B8 Generation with the Supercharged V6. I agree that the the B7 has much more character and far better steering feel, but that repair is a very sobering thing to ponder :)

[@ArunaEdirisinghe-tq3cg]

Hi Team ,thanks for this amazing video , cant find relevant product in given link, will you be able to report the links for products to do the timing job

[@nwskipro]

Manual says to do two passes on the camshaft bolts - one at 40 Nm and one at 100 Nm + 90*. They also say to remove the camshaft locator bars before proceeding to the 100 Nm + 90* pass. What's your take on why you leave the locator bars in and do the additional 90* as a third pass?

[@WilliamWeekesJr]

Thanks so much for this visualization. You really put the job at hand in perspective. Wish I lived in your neck of the woods.

[@st33fie]

excellent video with an excellent mechanic

[@aarronwilliam7142]

Man,great video,I can see why it's sooo expensive getting this done

[@Angelo80907]

Gold information 👌🏻 this would take months to learn at a tech school

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

Definitely!

[@jaysinford9418]

Im having a hard time finding the tools, and the links in your description come up empty. Any idea where i might be able to find them now?

[@ivanvega2821]

Well... it’s nice to know that the bloody knuckles part is going to be removing the motor. Thanks for the video guys.

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Instructive and therapeutic.

[@Lewis137]

Thank you guys SO much for putting this video together. I was well aware of the timing chain guides issues before buying my B6 S4 Imola Avant but god damn do I love this car. I'm a home mechanic so I'm really looking forward to pulling the motor and replacing the guides/chains this summer. This guide REALLY helped. Thank you!

[@eastoakland-S65feen]

Make a video if u havnt. I have a b7 s4 & will like to learn how to do this job.

[@vgidenko47]

How come you guys dont use the metal upper guide ?

[@christopherbell7561]

Just want to say a massive thanks for the vid, will be doing this in about 3 weeks time

[@living9377]

How did it work out?

[@kevins4155]

Great video! Will be referencing when I do mine. What is the mechanical adjuster upgrade?

[@amymaxwell815]

I see many of these on the local facebook marketplace with jumped timing and eith running poorly or not running at all. When these jump time do they bend valves in most cases please?

[@paintlife6077]

My 2007 Audi S4 has a little over 46k on it, typically at what mileage should you be concerned about the timing etc

[@romariosmith422]

I'm about to get mines done. This video came just in time lol. Thanks guys.

[@wetsoup]

Great video, have mine out now but I don't see how you seat the rear main seal. When I put the cover on it just slides back toward the timing chains. Do you have to remove the rear flange and then put the seal in ? Like I said a great video but this one little piece is crucial to completing the entire job.

[@norincobrocapri46]

I have an S4. Thank god a previous owner spent $US 4000 having this done! What a nightmare.

[@RJTamm93]

Where did you find it done for 4k? The cheapest I've found is about 6 in my area. 123k miles and still runs fantastic but it's a when it happens not an if as we know.

[@TheMilenkata]

@@RJTamm93 send the car or engine to Bulgaria. They will do this job for 1000$ and another 1000$ in OEM parts from Audi

[@spidusp]

Love it great job man such a relaxing watching

[@rubentarabuso4500]

Do you know if the VW Tuareg with the V8 4.2 FSI has the same problem?

[@jasonno2953]

I can not find it if it does exist. Is there a video for the video on doing the timing chains on the B8.5 RS5? Also. A list of all the tools needed?

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

We have yet to come across an RS5 that needed this job performed

[@SkyBrynn0420]

Awesome video! I've always been afraid to tackle one of these but it's pretty straight forward. Thanks!

[@uzotex1003]

Fantastic very educating thanks for sharing this your experience

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ethanbrake7737]

Oh my god Thankyou so much doing this job this week, subscribed for sure

[@MrJoker30]

I saw colored links on the chains and he didn’t mention that there is any use of them or lining them up in a certain way was critical So what I understood is locking the cam shafts and crank is it !!!?? Can any body clarify this point will be much appreciated Thanks in advance

[@kayvonmansouri]

What did the customer pay to have this done? Also, how many miles were on this engine?

[@slikkpaints]

Awesome video! I have a question if you could help please. My a5 3.0tdi is In the process of having a replacement timing chain kit due to a rattle. I think it might be due to chain stretch. My question is....Are the guides supposed to have movement (in and out). I noticed the guides are not screwed in like the tensioners etc. Looking for confirmation before it all goes back together. The kit didn't include any guides. Thanks

[@dustineng1]

What do you charge to redo someones if they ship engine to you?

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

shoot an email over to [e-mail] and our server manager will get you a quote

[@olukunle]

This is great guys, very confident to get an S4 now, very good video. Does the crank tool come with your kit? Just checked your website and I can see like 4 different types of kits

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

we do not include the tools with our timing chain kits but we do offer the tools separately jhmotorsports.com/products/tools-cables/cam-tensioner-and-chain-tools-new-for-b6-b7-s4-c6-a6-and-c5-allroad-w-chain-4-2l.html

[@ezequielgarridoiglesias5024]

I have the same engine with timing change problem just dropped off a my mechanic because misfired and camshaft code . how much going cost me more or less. great video you guys make looks so easy.

[@MyDeere3320]

Very nice tutorial video. I love the digital torque tool you use. Job well done

[@derekkchung]

What codes to pinpoint it is the lower guides, not the upper ones that you can get to without taking the engine out?

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

What are the symptoms or issue you are currently having Derek? Feel free to shoot an email over to [e-mail] and our tech support would be more than happy to assist.

[@josephhenry1547]

You ever get to Houston? Can you do my 2011 A8 timing?

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

We are located in Lathrop California. We have had countless customers ship their vehicles from all across the country and even Canada to have us perform service on their Audi.

[@StressedYeti]

@4:50 what is lower to the left of the main pulley? I'm trying to figure out what the part is called. Help!

[@discombobulatedsometimes29]

Awesome iv just bought a s4 convertible going to get this kit asap

[@thomasstutz6083]

Sorry for my English but Thanks and Congratulation for this Vidio.Respekt.Top Job.Tom from Germany.

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

Thank you very much!

[@brandonferrell6727]

I am having an issue of my driver's side cams moving slightly when I remove the locking tools. The valve spring pressure turns the cams slightly backwards when they are unlocked. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?

[@elrrapage]

It's the BEST vídeo.

[@crecio1827]

watched the full thing! time to get my hands dirty now

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

Have fun! Let us know if you have any questions or need any parts.

[@crecio1827]

@@JHMotorsportsInc Thank you! I will if anything! keep up the awesome content!

[@JoseRamirez-em7zp]

Nice video I did my audi S4 timing but I didn't use dose plastics to hold the tensioners do you think the timings is off

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

if timing was off you would most likely have CEL

[@marcooliveira3206]

Hey guys where did you get the lower rail for the main chain aluminum

[@flannyclips2545]

Does the kit come with the crank lock thing and the cam one to? I’m honestly not exspecting a reply this is a 4 year old video

[@Suchasweetalker]

Great work beautiful teamwork

[@itzpeaceliamyt2622]

Hi guys does the Audi rs4 b7 have the same timing chain issues buy the way guy's great work

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

The RS4 DOES NOT have the same issues. We very rarely have seen or heard of RS4's having any timing chain issues.

[@taranveersihra127]

Scanned the car n says advance timing about 4 to 6 degrees. Getting sound of rattle aswell. When I put the foot to the floor. The car behaves like its so tired. I would think the timing is off?

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

depends on the trouble codes you are getting. send a complete VCDS code scan to [e-mail] and a detailed description of your symptoms. thanks.

[@elhachemiable]

what a great video and great job on great engine ofc please maybe more video like this thank you

[@RideLifeNy]

How does one do this without a lift? I'm tempted to just do it because.

[@peters_stuff]

Excellent, very interesting to watch, thank you ... any tips for doing 3.0 TDI ? engine BMK from 2005

[@gingi801]

This engine looks verry similar to the 3.0tsfi v6 with 2 extra pistons. How similar is this engine to the b8 s4?

[@fraserfountain]

Different heads, and chain setup all different but looks very similar at a glance.

[@DanielRodriguez-qm4mh]

I'd please like to know where can I get the kit for the"metal tensioners" so I can swap out the old plastic ones. Thanks

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

all of our JHM timing chain kits include the upgrade metal guide.

[@sedicipecasservicos3455]

Unbeliavable and amazing job. I really would like to have a mechanic like you near of me.

[@robertgunn1661]

Now will this kit make it how Audi initially planned it and make it last the life of the car or is it just a repair for another 70-100k?

[@Jonnym96]

I don’t get why the chain guides are made from plastic? Surely this is a bad design

[@Jonnym96]

Also great vid by the way

[@dominikdominik7112]

It’s for noise purposes aswell if you had a metal guide the chain would make a tone of noise

[@luisamoa2500]

@@dominikdominik7112 I'm not sure that's true because the kit the guy is installing is an upgraded metal guide.

[@Mvp-AngelOfGod]

@@dominikdominik7112 i thought they used metal in the rs4 tho?

[@matthewcallnan2051]

metal frame with plastic wear points

[@joesopiqoti7172]

What a clean and thorough work. Loved the video. Amazing!!!

[@CQ964]

Hey, I‘m from Germany an like your Video a lot. Here in Germany no Tuner pay attention to this engine, so here are not much tuning Parts. Are all Parts original from Audi or are there JHM engineered Parts in your Kit in the Video? How much would it kost, to ship some JHM Parts to Germany?

[@Jolinator]

Checkout JHMS website Chris. You can price shipping from there

[@stefanrampersad8154]

that most common broken gide on the lower bank 2 side will you know somthing is wrong or will the tensioner take up the slack and mask the problem

[@vinnyaudi912]

Stefan Rampersad You will generally get a short rattle upon startup.

[@Zach7gri-]

What would be the cause of the medial cam shafts to not spin, but the lateral cam shafts still spin?

[@jamesoakes6563]

Ask Shawn how many times that the end cap/battery cover of his Snap-on torque wrench has come loose while torquring something and he had to do it again?

[@Nordic_Mechanic]

Looks similar to the 5.2. I should do mine this year for peace of mind. No noise yet, v10 purring happily still. Would you say no noise no problem or have you seen the lower center guide broken on cars with no signs of failure?

[@jeremiebenz6522]

i would leave it alone if its not making noise if there is a bad guide or tensioner you will defintly hear a rattle coming from the engine just adopt a strict maintance schedual and you should be fine

[@invertedpolarity6890]

How many miles were on this engine?

[@vocalone23]

Where is this guy? Awesome work

[@Therey1898]

Hi where is the camshaft position sensor bank 1 on a 2008 Audi Q7 4.2?

[@garrettmartin6267]

I wish I had this 3 months ago!

[@tinnedanger]

Very small torque settings on some bolts. I'm thinking a bit of Loctite on a rebuild would help. ( Nice dry brand new factory engines would have a virgin torque )

[@ejsgarage]

Can you guys move the shop to Virginia please? 😃👍

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

We have JHM dealers all around the country, you can enter your zip code and location the nearest one. jhmotorsports.com/dealerlocator/ Let us know if you have any questions!

[@paintlife6077]

Where are you guys located?

[@CarlosPerez-bv8kx]

Gran trabajo , exelente video , saludos desde Chile

[@Zach7gri-]

What tool is used to spin the crankshaft pulley for aligning the camshafts? Please share a link in the comments or tell me the name. Thank you!

[@Zach7gri-]

Please can someone help me?

[@yourbackyard7133]

Amazon Audi crankshaft socket

[@sergebmw3]

@@Zach7gri- you just need a socket that fits in the bolt and use a long enough Wrench.

[@kayvonmansouri]

were those new chains or existing?

[@12345678939218]

Simple but realy metodic job. Great video.

[@benetton66]

How much do you think is a fair price for a job like that here in NYC.

[@petergeralis3725]

And this is why I have an 02 Accord

[@hossein3867]

:-) rub it in to poor people like me waiting for my chain to go

[@jasonmohawk1124]

Is this kit a upgrade to the original components or is the engine going to always have this Achilles heal so to speak?

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

Jason, we offer various levels of timing chain kits for the 4.2 40V that contain our upgraded JHM components. The one issue we very commonly see is broken guides and worn mechanical cam adjusters. Both of these common issues are addressed with our JHM timing chain kits.

[@jasonmohawk1124]

@@JHMotorsportsInc Thank you kindly for that response, lots of help and we'll likely be purchasing one of your kits soon. We only have a rattle at start up at this point but want to change out the guides ahead of any real issues! Cheers

[@Spaceman6400]

Looks pretty straight forward (lol) good work guys, thanks for the video.

[@standeman32]

What are signs of a failing/breaking center guide in the 2005 s4's? Im checking out one with 140k miles, not sure what I should be looking for on it.

[@matthewcallnan2051]

you should be looking for documentation that this has already been done!! That's what I did...

[@sergiosouza2904]

Do you have a video of the engine removal from the car?

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

We do not have a video outlining the removal of the engine. JHM would recommend following a Bentley manual or Factory service manual for step by step instructions.

[@ericcindycrowder7482]

Is this the same engine as in an RS5? And what about the R8 v8 4.2? I know the engine has to be removed for both of these cars, but once the engine is out, is the procedure the same? Thanks Also, bad design of the camshafts to have the wrench flats on the opposite end of the camshaft. That’s a lot of torque to be transmitted through the length of the cams. The wrench flats should have been right next to the pulleys, in my opinion.

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

This engine is not the same as the 32V FSI 4.2 V8 found in the R8, RS5 or RS4. The B6/B7 S4 has a 40v non direct injection engine. Typically on the FSI engines we do not see timing failures like on the 40v engines. The job would be very similar between any of the Audi timing chain V8's.

[@786hunzavalley]

Hi. Nice video.. wondering , how much on average this job cost? Thanks.

[@JHMotorsportsInc]

Typically timing chain jobs will range from 6-12K depending on what other service is performed while the engine is out. Almost always there will be coolant hoses and other various seals/gaskets that are recommended.