Jigsaw Review - Off The Shelf Reviews

This week Gary and Iain review and discuss, Jigsaw (Saw VIII) (2017) by Directors Michael Spierig and Peter Spierig. Starring, Matt Passmore, Tobin Bell and Callum Keith Rennie.
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[@reikenkayzer]

Side-tangent: I really hate the line "beinging X to a new generation". It made sense when media was limited. Before home media, VHS rentals and the like. But in this day and age it is just a company line they use to not appear greedy. "A way to squeeze money out of something old." Sure in the 70s/80s getting a remake of a film from the 60s or earlier had it's merits. But nowadays it really isn't needed. What really stops teenagers today to watch the original Saw film? Wouldn't that be a better way of "bringing saw to the next generation"? Weeeell, there's no money in a helpful suggestion.

[@G_Elektrik]

It is difficult to maintain a franchise with 8 movies back to back, and they really tried, I think the production is good, well made, filmed, and edited, but the writing is again what diminishes it and leaves you unsatisfied once again

[@roomie1120]

To me, the biggest over the top "far fetched" idea, is that Logan would have the time to go dig up Jigsaw's coffin, and sneak Edgar's body out of that hospital, to put into that coffin, and put all the dirt back in.

[@vistea1]

And no one noticed John's grave was already dug up?

[@DarthPyrusTheVirus]

I hate Logan on the basis of another apprentice being so tired at this point, and the fact that they thought him being the FIRST apprentice was a good idea. I guess fuck everybody else. But at the same time, a military guy following Jigsaw had some potential.

[@jaydeepaquette1022]

I think, if they were going to go the "another apprentice" route once again, they should have gone with Logan being Lawrence Gordon's apprentice rather than John Kramer's, since he(Lawrence)'s technically a piece still on the figurative chessboard. He hasn't died, I think just about everyone we once didn't see die on screen throughout Saws 1-7 has come back to be killed later, and so it's safe to assume Lawrence hasn't. We also know Lawrence developed a much darker personality and helped John, and I suspect the town square trap with the cheating girlfriend and two dudes strung along by her was set up by him and his own apprentices, whom we see deliver Hoffman to him at the end of Saw 7. Logan could have been written to be one of those apprentices.

[@mattmidgley4275]

Thanks for the extra content and hard work guys 👊👊

[@ragnarrthorsen2792]

I've watched all your SAW reviews back to back, and I must say, I understand them better now. Very well done. Can not wait for your Spiral review. Brilliant stuff guys.

[@slapwagon]

shelf life! ❤

[@ALoonwolf]

I used to work on a farm. I've walked around inside those grain silos standing on top of the grain. Your foot sinks down into it a bit but that is all. They are not as deadly as films seem to show!

[@Private-Hudson]

Much appreciation for doing all the saw movies guys. Always brilliant and entertaining as usual.

[@notsyzagts7967]

Logan didn't even say the iconic "Game Over!" phrase at the end. Such a wasted opportunity.

[@crassbandercoot4343]

Callum Keith Rennies best role was in Hard Core Logo, a canadian mockumentary film also starring Hugh Dillon (of the rock band The Headstones and the tele show Flashpoint) where played.... Billy Talent. Thats right. CKR's role in Hard Core Logo is where the band Billy Talent took their name from. And HCL is an absolutely amazing film. You both would probably like it.

[@manwiththeplan4130]

Jigsaws twin brother from outta space 😂😂😂

[@DabionFreedom]

Good new review, of Jigsaw. I really like this one. I thought it was one of the better sequels. since Saw 3.

[@JellyDude-gt7te]

What a treat after I finish a hard day's welding 🔥👏🏻😎 thanks lads 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@Jay-mu4xl]

It's OTSR time, and I WANT TO PLAY A GAME. You have woken in a gruesome Jigsaw trap, the only way to escape is to watch Hellraiser Judgment on a loop for 24 hours! LIVE OR DIE, YOU CHOOSE! 😂😂😂 Have a good one, Shelfers! 👊

[@jeeveseventynine9263]

Omni Consumer Products, and The Slaughtered Lamb ! I want both of y'all T-shirts ! That OCP one looks so good!

[@leejones8582]

I have a Chucky,Jason,Michael and Bottom t shirts lol

[@bassethound7133]

Great series!!

[@rockinHurley777]

It doesn't make sense why there would be HD TVs in the barn since this should be set way back before saw 1

[@volusize]

1k views in 4 hour. Go on lads! 🤜

[@stephenkissane4268]

There's a lot of jigsaw following people about that we never see and seems impossible

[@Biotapess]

You guys are on fire 🔥

[@UnCreativeDeconstructionism]

Like Bobby's wife. 💀

[@thebest12700]

cant wait for them to trash spiral lol

[@Biotapess]

@@UnCreativeDeconstructionism oh shit 😂😂

[@Biotapess]

@@thebest12700 soon my friend

[@skirata55]

Loving the reviews lads. Hoping you'll cover Saw X too, I'm hearing good things but not sure if I should go see it yet or not.

[@Frank074]

Go see it

[@diamonddoggspuppy7755]

Saw X is my favorite of the franchise. Saw it 3 times in theaters and held up each time.

[@useyourillusiongnr]

👍 great review guys! 8 - Saw-movies..! LOL! Funny review! You totally demolished this film! They should have stopped after Kramer died!

[@buster3041]

Can you guys give your thoughts on Alone among grizzlies? It's a 2 episode doc by richard terry where he interviews a man similar to timothy treadwell.

[@davebooshty299]

I was wondering if the 2 at the end did not screw up their trap just How Were they upposed to Get the Keys out of the Bullets?

[@Boymanbeard]

i have loved every single one of these reviews guys, it has been a pleasure to watch them!

[@vi8799]

When I first watched the film when it came out, I was very disappointed. But looking at all the parts of the saw a week ago, I liked this part much more than the previous one.

[@dennyperez3872]

Worst chapter in the whole franchise, this movie is completely pointless…

[@stephenthedude4383]

Spiral vs Jigsaw?

[@bobbiholmes2274]

​@stephenthedude4383 I'd take this over spiral. Spiral really pissed me off

[@stephenthedude4383]

@@bobbiholmes2274 yeah spiral is at the bottom for me but I wanna know what pissed you off about it? 😃?????

[@bobbiholmes2274]

@stephenthedude4383 I figured it out id say less than halfway through the movie. I didn't like the traps and there just wasn't really any suspense or mystery there for me. I had 3 people in mind who it could have been but one particular person we didn't see much of them outside of work or any family etc and I was like it's that one. I normally have an issue with trying to figure out who is responsible for everything but in spiral I just knew

[@stephenthedude4383]

@@bobbiholmes2274 yeah and the attempts at comedy feel really awkward too. Weird movie lol

[@ryanleikness3414]

Ok. Saw the live review and I rewatched Jigsaw again from both a normal watch and an analysis... it's like Transformers The movie 1986 for me. If I just sit to watch it with little thought, it's enjoyable. But knowing the series, motto, plot holes and lack of world diversity, it is hard to like this. I was surprised but understood why you guys bashed this one. Best things I remember watching this was Tobin Bell's appearance, the ending and lasers, and Eleanor (sorry, she is cute I won't lie 😉 😍)

[@mathiieedoobas]

This was my fave since the original Saw. Good review, Gary. Iain, you're full of crap, dude :p

[@akshaytrayner1960]

Great vid guys

[@marklachney420]

The overall premise was OK but the script and acting dropped the ball. Still, compared to other 8th films it's not bad. The worst part was them completely dropping the new story for spiral.

[@ThunderingJove]

Good video, thanks!

[@davebooshty299]

I never got the feeling this movie was PRE Saw 1 at all. Ill have to regoogle about it vut i thought it was a sequel bit this time a prequel or sidequell either.

[@leejones8582]

It looks better than the previous saw films and of course flat screen HD screens too

[@UnCreativeDeconstructionism]

*Turn Up!*

[@haitch2676]

That ginger doctor…… jeeezuz that is my perfect woman

[@AubreyTheKing]

Never saw it lmao no pun intended Sounds like another skip for me. My friends told me to avoid it. Again, those traps do look awesome!

[@Blaine-O]

Love the program. It would be great to hear you both chat about Rik Mayall and Ade Edmondson . I'm from Canada and adore British comedy. You blokes seem well versed in black humor. I'd pateron but I'm on the dole .

[@CanImakeamilliondollars]

Out of the whole series, I only hated saw 3d. That felt lazy and like a cash grab. I hated the series ended on saw 3d. I automatically loved this and spiral because at least there was passion behind them and mystery.

[@mmobhm2059]

The only saw movie I ever walked out of it just hit me 30 minutes I was bored so I left and went McDonald’s had a cheeseburger which I thoroughly enjoyed ❤ On a side note the girlfriend at the time just stayed in the cinema ..strangely enough I never heard off her again

[@ryanleikness3414]

Whoa... 😮

[@reikenkayzer]

She got an offer to play a game from a little puppet on a bike.

[@leejones8582]

The film looks great but the plot makes no sense how would John know all these things the people have done the apprentince is so boring and flat screen HD TV's in 2003/4 really

[@TheHierophantGreen]

This is my least favorite of the saw franchise, but it’s always fun seeing you guys talk about movies

[@AngelCruz-pd1hc]

It's been a very long road to get these last few films but I can't wait for it and finish this reviews from you guys. But this is my least favorite saw movie.

[@kowalsolosolo]

I think the whole SAW series would have been much better with a paranormal aspect to it. That would make up for all those MASSIVE plot holes in every movie.

[@darkcornersuk]

I was thinking this same thing imagine if jigsaw was the human embodiment of karma, perhaps he could have visions that allowed him to see the wrong doing that people committed and he built his traps to enact karma upon his victims..

[@pilot3605]

Chris Rock is next 😂

[@leejones8582]

Pre slap

[@Nugzz187]

I’d rather watch your reviews than the actual films themselves guys🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️👍

[@patrickmckenna5812]

I've been waiting for this one! One of the most hated entries in the entire franchise, and I'm one of the 0.00001 per cent who actually loves this movie. I really think it's a shame that they didn't follow up on this one. We've got a new antagonist, and a new Amanda, and they wimped out! Just my opinion, but I know I'm right 😀😀😀 Spoilers! I feel exactly the same way about Spiral...

[@johndenver3002]

i never SAW any of them movies, but i SAW all of your reviews about them !!!

[@leejones8582]

Did anyone really think Jigsaw was still alive? and the apprentice in this is so so bland.

[@lonedragon3261]

Hope Iain doesn't start to look pail in the next review... 👊

[@Frank074]

The worst film in the franchise. It dethroned Saw VII 3D: The Final Chapter - The Traps Come Alive. And that was a giant piece of shit as well.

[@leejones8582]

The film looks really good compared to the cheapness of the first few but the story is awful how would Jigsaw know what these people did and Logan is so bland thank god for Saw X while predicable is step up.

[@Jigsaw0097]

The worst Saw film by far and it’s not even close.

[@leejones8582]

I would say Saw 3D is the worst this looks great but the story and Logan are so bad.

[@Jigsaw0097]

@@leejones8582 Cinematography is probably the only good thing about Jigsaw. I will admit that both Jigsaw and Spiral are the "best-looking" of all of the films. And yes Saw 3D is pretty atrocious.

[@hinn6515]

The plot definitely falls apart on this one if you think more than a few seconds about it, but really enjoyed it all the same! Loved the big, modern Billy puppet, and thought it was a fun watch. 🪚