Spinning Wheel Shaped Objects - The Dreaded SWSO

[@lunasmum6869]

This reminds me of a comedy show here in UK several years ago now called The Good Life. A couple decide they can make a living by growing their own food, milk from a cow etc.. Their neighbour, Margot, was horrified but was still a good friend. One episode Tom saw a spinning wheel in a shop window told Margot who thought it would look nice in her lounge. Tom and his wife Barbara, got excited and planned to spin yarn, more excited when Margot brought it home. Tom suggested that perhaps he could borrow it to spin on but Margot just laughed turned a switch on the wheel and it turned, playing a Christmas Carol!! Poor Tom and Barbara!! The whole series was very funny but there was a serious message there in that episode.

[@AnBrocRamharArt]

Oh my goodness I have my VERY old spinning wheel that my grandmother gifted me last year but I’ve had such a hard time identifying it because it hasn’t fit in with any of the classic types of spinning wheel but it looks just like the picture of the Tyrolian wheel you showed!! Strangely enough though my wheel WAS a working wheel but someone in the generations before my grandmother converted it into a lamp (thankfully they didn’t do any irreparable damage and she still spins) which I promptly removed when I got my hands on it! I’m very excited to actually have a name on my wheel now

[@crowznest438]

This is one of the most beneficial vids on buying a used wheel, in avoiding these decorative wheels.

[@trishlaliberte378]

I found a SWSO curbside one day. Painted it up and it lives in my garden!

[@JillianEve]

That's a great place for it though! Was it the infamous "Made in Canada"?

[@michellejugao4091]

My friend found a decorative spinning wheel on the side of the road and gave it to me. I was so excited and took it to a local spinnng/wool store and she felt so sorry for me that she gave me an old spinning wheel from the back of her shop. So the whole journey still led me to good things! 😄

[@jonassteiner3532]

Hey, i just realized that it's called "tyrolean" spinning wheel, because it originated in the Austrian region of Tyrol, and i actually live there, therefore it surprised me so much, that i checked twice if by "tyrolean" it really means it's from this region, but it is, and I'm so excited! Thanks for sharing this Video, because without it i probably wouldn't have known that back in the day we had our own type of spinning wheels!

[@JillianEve]

I'm sorry I didn't have a better representation of your regional craftsmanship with this project wheel! The poor thing is such a mess. I would love to visit your part of the world some day and see some actual Austrian folk art in person! ❤

[@jonassteiner3532]

@@JillianEve don't apologize! Because of this video (and your videos in general) I'm really interested in learning how to spin, to be able to do the same thing my great-grandmother and all her ancestors probably did, because in my district there is only one men left who knows how to spin, and i want to carry on doing this amazing craftsmanship! 💚

[@Lady_Salmonidae]

I am so happy I found this video, I got very very close to wasting my money on Facebook Marketplace! I'll probably stick with the drop spindle for now haha. Thank you so much for your content!

[@margotpriest1677]

There is, of course, Canadian Production wheels. Generally made in Quebec, they are also called Quebec wheels. They would not have a "made in Canada" label because they predate that labelling requirement. There is a Ravelry group discussing the Production wheels.

[@daniellemoya-mendezilling2591]

I'm so so glad you made this video, I had **no idea** this was a thing 😳 I'm in the market for a used wheel now, so this probably saved my life lol

[@resourcedragon]

That is a fascinating spinning wheel shaped object. The base might well be a pallet and the wheel itself definitely looks like something for a small cart or a planter or the like. But the flyer suggests that the maker was familiar with Tyrolean wheels and they put some effort into getting bits of it to work. I'm going to guess that the screw was also taken from something else, that would not be an easy thing for an amateur to make.

[@JillianEve]

If you find a "Made in Canada" sticker though, you might have a Lendrum, so grab that baby! I still haven't decided on a name for this SWSO. Of course it can't officially have a spinning wheel name until it BECOMES a spinning wheel, so when that happens, what do you suggest?

[@dwade1367]

So realistically, what in your opinion are the best functional spinning wheels for beginners. Love knitting but never ventured into other avenues. Ty. Stay Creative 💕

[@destructionindustries1987]

I appreciate this, thanks

[@thebardisashieldmaiden1754]

Thank you. My friend is selling a wheel to me that needs a couple parts. I want to make sure it is authentic.

[@DAYBROK3]

my kid got one of these wheels for free. i was a bit saddened but the foot man was one i could reuse, which made me happy and my wheel named loom is happy too, the piece from a broken easel was not that great. Loom is a cpw specifically an aram paradice they closed in the 1950s, i agree i should not have had this wheel as my first, its cranky, fast and hates plying, but i dont think i would want a different one to start on cause if i can make yarn on this cranky old boy i think i can figure out a newer one.

[@JillianEve]

Oh no, that is always so disappointing! I have to say that I'm chuckling a little bit about your CPW story. My next video is about a project with my CPW and yes, mine is also cranky, and yes, if you can get spinning on a CPW you can spin on anything modern! 💜🐑🧶😄

[@lauratittensor2691]

I don’t know if you ever named your wheel but in honour of the made in Canada theme, can I suggest Celene?

[@janethuff6202]

Myspinning wheel (from my great grandmother) has the name “T. Stocking” printed on the top. Wish I could learn more about the history.

[@creativitybytrisha6819]

Be careful drilling in to the flyer for your orifice. I have split wood a few times trying to make mine. You can also line where the flyer sits with the wood with leather so you aren't causing a fire. I bet in the end you will be able to get this to work. I was able to get an antique wheel that works but it needs some repairs so its a side project.

[@JillianEve]

Good idea about making a leather bearing. I think I have an old belt I could cut up! ❤

[@creativitybytrisha6819]

@@JillianEve I just used an old belt that was supposed to be a leather belt. It had thin leather surrounding a foam core. If yours is like that it may work since it would be a thinner piece of leather

[@sonjanordahl3158]

I have faith in you. You could make it a clunky but functional wheel. It really looks like someone wanted to make a wheel, but they did not know how to spin.

[@laurelstieg9375]

A year later I am seeing this...I think where people mess up more is that they know nothing about antique furniture..for one thing they didn't use screws...and that wheel I would never have bought..

[@infamoussphere7228]

I don't know how to spin and wow! I didn't know there was an epidemic of fake wheels out there! It seems like quite a difficult craft to get into unless you have someone to show you in person - at least with knitting you can buy a ball of yarn and some needles fairly cheaply, but investing in a whole wheel when you aren't sure what you're doing and don't even know if it's fake? That's a big barrier to starting!

[@JillianEve]

Absolutely!

[@amanda4716]

you actually don't need a wheel to start spinning! I thought that for a while and I didn't have money for a wheel so I just put aside wanting to spin for a few years. but then I looked into it more and I got a drop spindle and wool to spin with for only around $20. I was able to make yarn that was good enough to use it in projects within the first week or so. it's been a few years since then and I'm now just learning to use a wheel through my public library that has a maker space and a wheel that can be checked out for free

[@kattrablake7008]

Maybe someone tried to DIY a wheel? 6:33

[@elizabethfowle2390]

Indeed, I was taken. Am attempting to resell as a decorative item. oh well

[@BiblicallyAccurateSeraph]

I just bought one off of somebody on Facebook Marketplace.. anndd...got home, all excited.. checked under and it says "made in Canada".. ;_;

[@dawnuselto8777]

The made in Canada is not necessarily a true test of a swso, there are Canadian Production Wheels that are made in Canada. Just wanted to let you know, I've heard that those spinning wheels are very fast wheels. Have A Blessed Day and stay safe and healthy!

[@JillianEve]

Yes, I have a CPW too and it's great. Also Lendrums are amazing! I should have specified the "Made in Canada" stamp underneath the table is the indicator! Thanks for helping to clarify! 💜

[@fairybead]

Here I am again. My wheel also has some wood-on-wood parts. We grease it with a fluf of wool. Sometimes you need to take a break so the wheel can cool down. 😂

[@JillianEve]

I am learning so much from you! That's really amazing that you have to cool down your wheel! 😂😂💜

[@fairybead]

It starts to make a squicking (?) noise then. (forgive me my English). Then you know: time for coffee.

[@woolywonders5546]

I so wanted to watch this video but there is no closed captioning 😢

[@JillianEve]

Heather, I'm so sorry. I will go see what went wrong and why the closed captioning didn't work!

[@JillianEve]

It looks like I will have to put the CC in manually, but I'm at work right now and it will take a little time. Please check back in a couple of hours, or send me an e-mail at [e-mail] and I will let you know as soon as it is accessible. ❤

[@JillianEve]

I'm back with an update! The transcription is done. It might take KZbin a little while to align the text with the video, but when that's done it should work for you. Thank you for your patience and happy spinning! ❤❤❤

[@woolywonders5546]

oh my gosh thank you so much for the closed captioning!! Have a lovely weekend!! 🥰

[@JillianEve]

@@woolywonders5546 You are so welcome! I'll be more careful to double check it in the future! ❤

[@jenniferrich5292]

Someone surely went to a lot of trouble to put it together!

[@JillianEve]

Yes they did! I wish I could show them how close they got to a functioning wheel!

[@DAYBROK3]

it looks like someone took a few real pieces and frankened them

[@JillianEve]

Yes! 🐑🧶💜

[@roni12k]

Ugh! Not 1980s. Mid-70s. Everyone was into colonial reproduction stuff because we celebrated the bicentennial anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.

[@despinkamer6626]

The 'actual wheel' you refer to is a brand from my country. Very successful wheel as it is, it is rare and called a designer wheel - look it up in Ebay advertise? I was shocked by your sarcasm! This wheel needs a bit of fine tuning - there IS a tensioning knob although you (in your 'wisdom' ) tell people that there is no way to tension the mother to the drive belt. O, and the bobbin needs shaping so it really fits between the flyer and maiden. A hole in the orifice is a matter of a few minutes with a drill.... I think maybe the wheel was not very carefully checked, or maybe it was still in the process.... I hate it when people tell other people how a good wheel should look or function... Through ages people have learned to work with whatever was available or could be made. Like the wood kind was 'less' than other wheels... in your eyes perhaps...which gives me all sorts of thoughts... about how people nowadays are spoiled with the zillion choices they have. In your world in your days in your eyes. Just dont tell me that this is a worthless spinning wheel. (and about the Moswolt hammer wheel in the picture you showed...bet you never knew it even existed (probably before you were born?)

[@JillianEve]

Actual Tyrol wheels are incredible examples of woodworking and craftsmanship! They should be saved and preserved whenever possible! This one though, is not that. It copies the style of a Tyrol wheel in shape, but it is a spinning wheel shaped object. It was made as a decoration and probably copied from an actual spinning wheel from Tyrol. In a second video, I made the modifications required to get this wheel spinning and you can see how poorly and recently it was constructed. Probably the 1980's. I'm an experienced spinner, I work with a lot of antique spinning equipment, even with modifications to it, I couldn't fill a bobbin on this wheel. People in a position to make-do may have sacrificed fancy wood and decorations, but not actual functionality. Those are my thoughts on it. I hope that helps to clarify things. 💜🐑🧶

[@JillianEve]

Here is the video modifying the wheel if you are interested. Happy spinning! 💜 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6jNho2ZoM11a6M

[@despinkamer6626]

@@JillianEve Tyrolean wheels are named Tyrolean because they happen to be made in Tyrol? And what about the other similar wheels from France, Switerland, Austria? Do you call them Tyrolean as well? Tirol is a small region in Austria..... In my opinion this is a wheel from where-ever in the centre of Europe...or maybe not even that- made in The US by a guy or girl that wasn't able to finish it. In the other video didn't see the wheel working, like you said it could - still waiting for the nr 3 video?

[@JillianEve]

@@despinkamer6626 That's the difficult part about identifying wheels in America. People who came here brought wheels made in Europe with them, but also made wheels when they got here. Add to that how people moved around, family stories faded over time, and we have a lot to sort through if we want to identify where a wheel originally came from. I think sometimes in America people put those regionally or culturally identifying words on things because we have disconnected from the folk traditions of our ancestors who came from Europe. People look for connections to their heritage. I was told the shape and style of this wheel was "Tyrolean" by someone in America who collects and preserves wheels from the Tyrol region of the Alps that made their way across the Atlantic. If there is a better term to use, I will be very happy to learn it! I did finish the series about this wheel, here is the 3rd video. 💜 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5-zhKybj7WHbZo

[@JillianEve]

I also have this book, which helps, but is certainly not an exhaustive resource. "A Pictorial Guide to American Spinning Wheels" by D. Pennington and M. Taylor, 1975. (Out of print) It mostly identifies wheels made in America by people who learned wheel making in various European countries and brought those skills here. All the wheel examples in the book seem to be made before 1900.💜